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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Doris, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yes, Hi there, Hi, Can I help you?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Miss. I was in a relationship for several years and
we broke up because he said that I wasn't supportive
of him, and so, you know, I finally found out
what he thought I wasn't supportive of and I asked
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him for forgiveness and I apologized to him, but he
was never able to forgive me. This past summer he
passed away from cancer, and even then he didn't say
he forgave me. And I had read that you know,
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if you can't forgive a person, then God's not going
to be able to forgive you. And I just wanted
to know what your thoughts on that was.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
No, that's not true. And there's a difference between forgiveness
and reconciliation. So some people can forgive and not reconcile
with the other person. Yes, and so, and that's that's fine.
There's no need to reconcile. You can. Forgiving is for
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it's for yourself, it's not for the other person. Yes,
because holding grudges is is poison and it has been
said that not forgiving someone is like drinking poison, expecting
them to die, and it's poison to yourself. It's you're forgiving,
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your giving. It's not even for anything that they've done
for say for Sae. So in this particular case, you know,
he felt you were a bad partner or somebody that
he didn't want to pursue mm hm, and so he
didn't reconcile. But why does that weigh on you?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Now? Just I wanted, I just want to be clear
in my mind. You know that even though he wasn't
able to forgive me, and I understand you know that
it is forgiveness is for yourself. For the longest time,
I thought, you know, forgiving the person you were, you know,
it was for them. But I found out that, you know,
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forgiveness is for yourself, for your own healing, you know,
so that you don't, yeah, like you said, carry that
poison inside of you, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So, how come you don't forgive yourself?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Pardon me?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
How come you, Doris, don't forgive yourself? About the whole situation? Come?
It still weighs on you.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I have forgiven, I have forgiven myself. My worry is
that he wasn't able to forgive, and that he wasn't
accepted by Jesus because he wasn't able to forgive.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's between him and between him and me. Why, Okay,
I think you worry about it differently. I think you
hang on to it because something in you. I mean,
that's between him and his God, okay. And there are
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moments within moments within moments. Scripture says that a thousand
years as a day in the day is of a
thousand years to God. So there can be moments like
milli moments in his life when he was passing that
he was having full conversations with God. But the fact
that if you hold on to it, I think is
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really coming down to something that you're going through and
not him. If if really that's it, if that's your
only concern, I can tell you no. Although Scripture says
you should forgive as the Lord forgave you, that that's
not going to keep you out of heaven or keep
you out of God's favor or understanding. So if that's
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your question, then there's your answer.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, that was my question.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, then go in peace knowing that that's not keeping
him at the doors of the Kingdom or anything. Laura,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Hi here, I am poking because you just said I
could poke. You can thank you. I lost my husband, Okay,
I don't want to cry. Okay, few years ago of these,
Mike quin to you is he had a rough childhood
and he died this horrible disease. Why if God is
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so merciful and loving, why do you suffered? And he
did suffer in the last years of life with HD.
And then eight months after that, I lost his superstello,
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our service Drige, which was our baby because we didn't
have children, so we didn't want to pass on the
gene into the disease gene. And then our baby died
of cancer.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Why that's a lot of pain for sure. Yes, are
you saying there was nothing good in your husband's life?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
When we met, you know, it was as fast as years,
he told me. After we dated, two weeks, after a
month we got married. We were together for twenty one years.
Oh and that lady that i'm her son different religions.
He was Lutheran and I'm seventeenth generation Pagan, so her
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son will make it. Anyways, back to my question.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Why.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He believed in God.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But the assumption, Laura, the assumption is that kind of
this hedonistic view that if it feels good, it's good,
and if it feels bad, it's bad. Suffering is horrible. Yes, absolutely, yes,
and I'm sorry that he went through those things. But
the scriptures and Christianity specifically because of the name of
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this pro doesn't look upon this life as the life.
This is not the best life. This is the best way,
the best possible way to the best possible life. So
it's never in scripture that this is going to be
a great life. As a matter of fact, it's been
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said many times that Christianity should come with a warning
label because sometimes life gets harder, not easier. It's it's
not about that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You can see that as the pain that he had,
the service in the head.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he died young too. He died at forty eight,
that is very young. Yes, his mother and she had
the same thing, the same disease.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How wonderful was it that you two met?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, out of the blue and litear the scraper that
they have. I get thinking, who's just creep following us?
And then it was my.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jest, what was did he have a good sense of
humor he did. Did he make you laugh?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, did you make him laugh?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah? We were good together. Maybe we traveled, he played
the ponies, went to Vegas. I mean, we did everything
he wanted, which I knew he would have him that long,
so we did what we could. You know, it's still
I'm I would sing when he passed. He passed in
my arms, and then I feld him like three days
(08:45):
after and then opened the window because I wanted his
soul to be free. So it's not that I didn't
feel him, but my bedroom felt lighter.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Sure, there's a lot of people that experienced that. Now
would you would you say that his white life was
worth living?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I think so because we met. He was happy.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
After we met, he a We stole.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Me and that's why he I guess.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
He stopped going.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
To his church. It was Saint Paul's an Orange, and
he didn't convert to being pagan. But he saw my
ways and my family ways, and he felt comfortable, you know,
he felt comfortable. So I don't know. I don't know
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want to ask you. I just want to know.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
He was Rusan.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So is he where is he at right now?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is he? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, he made his peace with that's you have to
believe that, because there's no other way for you to know,
and no one can tell you different right as you
will too, and everyone will at some point. But I
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find it interesting. You know, there are people there that go,
if I just had ten more dollars, I'd be happy,
or if I just had a million dollars, I'd be happy,
or if I just had this, or I just had that.
And what you described, Laura was a great life. Yes
he was in pain, Yes he died early. But there
are some people that will live another twenty years past
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his age that won't have the love that he had.
Would you trade that? Would you want that for him?
Is it about a longer life, Is it about a
pain free life? Or is it about him finding you
and having something that was worth crying over? If he
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had a just a pained life, you wouldn't be crying
over him. Now you miss him.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
God cry as refreshing day. I'm I'm gonna go be
home for you know Christmas. Someone you caught me. We're
packing my backpack. I'm going hiking an overnight camp and
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that's what we did. So that's what I'm gonna do
you are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The Stewart now of his museum. We use that term
on the show a lot, because you are now, you know,
the curator and the Dosin of Jeff's museum, his jokes,
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wisdom and all that lives on. The only thing that
ended when he died is his parent. The joy is
still in your memories, the joy is still in you.
The joy is in all those things. And I'm sorry
that's exacerbated by the low loss of your sweet pooch
as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
The two things you know people learn is problems will
occur and you will die. That's like one of the
first things you'll ever ever learn in life is that
it is temporary. Yet it's the one thing that takes
everybody by surprise.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And my grandpa he's lived to be one hundred and three,
and my father eighty one, so hopefully I'll be around.
Oh my other question, I know you have other calls,
but my other question is is deal with are they
together a puppy?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, you know, people ask about animals in heaven, and
interestingly enough, the imagery of what people refer to as
the end Time's imagery with the horsemen of the apocalypse
and so on. There is no reason to believe that
even just for joy, animals don't have souls in the
same way, in the same sense. But there is no
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reason to believe that people won't see their animals again. Laura,
were up against the clock unfortunately. But go in peace
and let those tears purify and remind you that those
tears are are not for just the loss of something,
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but the loss of someone special in this plane, on
this earth, in this way. But it's not the lack
of mercy that does that. Mercy is what brought you
to Jeff. Mercy is that you feel the good in
something that was painful, that you can have a relationship,
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that you can have these things. The mercy is Atticus
had a place filled with love. I mean, these are
all the good things. Otherwise there be no tears. But
even in your own belief system, the pagan belief system
that you know, bashes to ashes, dust to dust, still
remains and those energies and all of those things go
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back into the same system. And that's not counter to
even the scriptures and saying that those things are the
physical realm, and God is more focused on the spiritual. Timore,
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Welcome to the Jesus Christ show. I am, well, how can.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I help you? Day?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
By the way, why thank you?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I w I wanted to ask a question. Well, I
was going up, I was growing up and muffs them
in households and stuff like too because of my dad's
strict origin and stuff like that. Ever since my parents
passed away, I've stopped praicing n Islam and stuff like that.
And right now I'm just I just believe in God
right now. But more and more I've been going towards
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your way if the I mean, I'm trying to. I
don't know what my frieth's gonna be and stuff like that,
but for now, I just wanna follow you and stuff
like that, and follow your teaching because it's so I
I I love it all the time. I've sen at
nighttime all day long and stuff like that. So is
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there anything wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, of course, you know, this show comes from a
particular perspective, and so we're gonna be biased when it
comes to that. But I'm curious as to why. You know,
often Jews, Muslims, and Christians are referred to as people
of the Book because it all starts with a Rahim
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and moves through three major religions, so the beginnings, obviously
they're going to be very similar in those three faiths.
What is it now that makes you question the faith
of your birth and upbringing.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
It's not as a question. I'm proud of who I am.
I was born in Afaghan and stuff like that, and
that was my religion. But right now it seems to
getting harder and harder. You know, you have to a
pray five times a day, which I can't do it
because of what you're teaching is just you can just
buy your head anywhere pre any way you want, you know,
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stuff like that. That's what makes it easy, if simple
for me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Do you think that faith should be easy and simple?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No, no, not think that should be simple and easy. I'm
just saying I want to religion because when I follow
the stories in your book and stuff like that, it's
so much fun. Like I just want to be part
of it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, I think that it's always we encourage people all
the time. We talked about this earlier that in the
Christian scriptures it says to test all things, hold fast
to that which is true, and that is a powerful
thing when it comes to your faith. Faith everyone thinks
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is you know, leaving your brain on the sidewalk and
just believing, and that's not true. Faith is the very
small part that comes at the end of reason when
you can't know all things. And so I encourage you
to be prayer, to be prayerful, and you're seeking and
understanding as to what you want. But there are many
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people that in life were raised one way and then
find a desire to learn or to strike out and
understanding different faith. And when doing so, it's important that
you do it with the proper mindset that you're going
that you're seeking truth and you're seeking a peace, and
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you're seeking an understanding. And so as long as your
heart is in the place and your head is in
the right place to seek, I think you're good. I'm
a little concerned that you said that it was a
little easier, although yes, in many ways, I'm sure it
could be. But I want to make sure that you're seeking,
and I think you are. You're the joy and some
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of those things and understanding that will only come from
reading scripture and asking questions. That is the way of
all things in life, is learning and asking questions and
adhering to that which is true. I pray that you
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are with family and friends and you are feeling the
joy that surpasses circumstances in understanding the power of the
birth of Christ and the importance of salvation on a
hurting planet. And that if this sparks any curiosity in you,
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that you will seek to learn more. And if you've
been away, welcome back. And to all those of you
that are in the secular form of Christianity enjoying the holidays,
to understand that often Christians have said Christmas is the
one time of year that non Christians get to feel
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the joy that Christians feel every single day, knowing that
they are encapsulated in the love on the cross and
the sacrifice there. Welcome to the Jesus Christ show you Okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
How are you are you? Jesus?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Thank you for thinking my call.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I'm glad you're going to board tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, thank you so much. And uh, Jesus, you you
know what your name? You know what your name and
it means powerful in Hebrew.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Well, well, Jesus, you know uh his name.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Is. Uh isn't new name what I have now?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Because because uh my name, uh my my only name.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It was I don't know from where that name comes from.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But I'm happy you are happy you happing me because
because of such.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
A son of God, h you. You you were saying
to help to help people, not to destroy people. And
I'm going to tell you, thank you, thank you for
the help. No matter what if I have millions or
just even one penny in my pocket, no matter what,
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the most important thing is it is the Remember.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Remember the the the three, the tree, the tree of
the life. I don't know if you remember that three, but.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
But now you are my tree of life. So you
know I'm eating I'm eating your world. I'm not I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Lie to you, Jesus.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I'm not eating every day because you know, sometimes if
I'm eating beans every day, I'm going to feel.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Bad from my stomach, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
But I'm taking your worry every day when I have
a time. And the most important thing, Jesus, is the
world you youlivered to everyone who really believe in you,
and not now be fake.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Is you know to or to put in practice in
all way.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
You know that you understand me, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I do, man, and I think that your statement is
an important one. Is that often people will think that
taking the Lord's name in vain is stubbing your toe
and saying Jesus Christ. But the reality is in scripture
using the Lord's name in vain as proclaiming something and
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then living another way. Even times in scripture where people
were praising my name, following me saying you're the best
and everybody needs to know about you, and I did
what I turned around and said, get the behind me, Satan,
because it wasn't about the words, it was about the actions.
You draw an interesting tie the mact between consumption and food,
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and so does scripture oftentimes about being having water endless
water to quench, and you won't get sick, and you
won't get full on the food of God. You will
forever be seeking more and more. And that is the
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place that people should be. That is what you're desired
to be as children of God, is consuming the word
of God, coming into understanding, being strong and righting wrongs,
and forever refining yourself. You know, as we heard earlier,
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knows that question what they're doing, the decisions that they're making.
The truth is each decision you make, as long as
your goal is to make the best decision, then you're
seeking the will of God. When you deviate from that
is when you find yourself missing the mark. And that's
really what the word sin means. It sounds like some
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big religious term, but the reality is just means missing
your mark, the mark that you were designed to hit,
whether it's your creativity, whether it's your gifts and abilities,
whether it's whatever you have to offer to utilize those
things to the glory of God and to the help
of others. And I pray during this time of the
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holidays and Christmas being here and the new Year coming soon,
that you will look inwardly instead of pointing at others
that are doing things wrong and your frustration with the world,
look inward on what you can do as an individual
to make that change. And in this time of birth
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and newness, remember these simple words. I Am with you Always.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Doris, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yes, Hi there, Hi, Can I help you?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Miss. I was in a relationship for several years and
we broke up because he said that I wasn't supportive
of him, and so, you know, I finally found out
what he thought I wasn't supportive of and I asked
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him for forgiveness and I apologized to him, but he
was never able to forgive me. This past summer he
passed away from cancer, and even then he didn't say
he forgave me. And I had read that you know,
(01:02):
if you can't forgive a person, then God's not going
to be able to forgive you. And I just wanted
to know what your thoughts on that was.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
No, that's not true. And there's a difference between forgiveness
and reconciliation. So some people can forgive and not reconcile
with the other person. Yes, and so, and that's that's fine.
There's no need to reconcile. You can. Forgiving is for
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it's for yourself, it's not for the other person. Yes,
because holding grudges is is poison and it has been
said that not forgiving someone is like drinking poison, expecting
them to die, and it's poison to yourself. It's you're forgiving,
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your giving. It's not even for anything that they've done
for say for Sae. So in this particular case, you know,
he felt you were a bad partner or somebody that
he didn't want to pursue mm hm, and so he
didn't reconcile. But why does that weigh on you?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Now? Just I wanted, I just want to be clear
in my mind. You know that even though he wasn't
able to forgive me, and I understand you know that
it is forgiveness is for yourself. For the longest time,
I thought, you know, forgiving the person you were, you know,
it was for them. But I found out that, you know,
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forgiveness is for yourself, for your own healing, you know,
so that you don't, yeah, like you said, carry that
poison inside of you, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So, how come you don't forgive yourself?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Pardon me?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
How come you, Doris, don't forgive yourself? About the whole situation? Come?
It still weighs on you.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I have forgiven, I have forgiven myself. My worry is
that he wasn't able to forgive, and that he wasn't
accepted by Jesus because he wasn't able to forgive.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's between him and between him and me. Why, Okay,
I think you worry about it differently. I think you
hang on to it because something in you. I mean,
that's between him and his God, okay. And there are
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moments within moments within moments. Scripture says that a thousand
years as a day in the day is of a
thousand years to God. So there can be moments like
milli moments in his life when he was passing that
he was having full conversations with God. But the fact
that if you hold on to it, I think is
(04:02):
really coming down to something that you're going through and
not him. If if really that's it, if that's your
only concern, I can tell you no. Although Scripture says
you should forgive as the Lord forgave you, that that's
not going to keep you out of heaven or keep
you out of God's favor or understanding. So if that's
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your question, then there's your answer.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, that was my question.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, then go in peace knowing that that's not keeping
him at the doors of the Kingdom or anything. Laura,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Hi here, I am poking because you just said I
could poke. You can thank you. I lost my husband, Okay,
I don't want to cry. Okay, few years ago of these,
Mike quin to you is he had a rough childhood
and he died this horrible disease. Why if God is
(05:09):
so merciful and loving, why do you suffered? And he
did suffer in the last years of life with HD.
And then eight months after that, I lost his superstello,
(05:31):
our service Drige, which was our baby because we didn't
have children, so we didn't want to pass on the
gene into the disease gene. And then our baby died
of cancer.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Why that's a lot of pain for sure. Yes, are
you saying there was nothing good in your husband's life?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
When we met, you know, it was as fast as years,
he told me. After we dated, two weeks, after a
month we got married. We were together for twenty one years.
Oh and that lady that i'm her son different religions.
He was Lutheran and I'm seventeenth generation Pagan, so her
(06:25):
son will make it. Anyways, back to my question.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Why.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He believed in God.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But the assumption, Laura, the assumption is that kind of
this hedonistic view that if it feels good, it's good,
and if it feels bad, it's bad. Suffering is horrible. Yes, absolutely, yes,
and I'm sorry that he went through those things. But
the scriptures and Christianity specifically because of the name of
(06:59):
this pro doesn't look upon this life as the life.
This is not the best life. This is the best way,
the best possible way to the best possible life. So
it's never in scripture that this is going to be
a great life. As a matter of fact, it's been
(07:20):
said many times that Christianity should come with a warning
label because sometimes life gets harder, not easier. It's it's
not about that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You can see that as the pain that he had,
the service in the head.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he died young too. He died at forty eight,
that is very young. Yes, his mother and she had
the same thing, the same disease.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How wonderful was it that you two met?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, out of the blue and litear the scraper that
they have. I get thinking, who's just creep following us?
And then it was my.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jest, what was did he have a good sense of
humor he did. Did he make you laugh?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, did you make him laugh?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah? We were good together. Maybe we traveled, he played
the ponies, went to Vegas. I mean, we did everything
he wanted, which I knew he would have him that long,
so we did what we could. You know, it's still
I'm I would sing when he passed. He passed in
my arms, and then I feld him like three days
(08:45):
after and then opened the window because I wanted his
soul to be free. So it's not that I didn't
feel him, but my bedroom felt lighter.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Sure, there's a lot of people that experienced that. Now
would you would you say that his white life was
worth living?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I think so because we met. He was happy.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
After we met, he a We stole.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Me and that's why he I guess.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
He stopped going.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
To his church. It was Saint Paul's an Orange, and
he didn't convert to being pagan. But he saw my
ways and my family ways, and he felt comfortable, you know,
he felt comfortable. So I don't know. I don't know
(09:48):
want to ask you. I just want to know.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
He was Rusan.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So is he where is he at right now?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is he? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, he made his peace with that's you have to
believe that, because there's no other way for you to know,
and no one can tell you different right as you
will too, and everyone will at some point. But I
(10:18):
find it interesting. You know, there are people there that go,
if I just had ten more dollars, I'd be happy,
or if I just had a million dollars, I'd be happy,
or if I just had this, or I just had that.
And what you described, Laura was a great life. Yes
he was in pain, Yes he died early. But there
are some people that will live another twenty years past
(10:42):
his age that won't have the love that he had.
Would you trade that? Would you want that for him?
Is it about a longer life, Is it about a
pain free life? Or is it about him finding you
and having something that was worth crying over? If he
(11:05):
had a just a pained life, you wouldn't be crying
over him. Now you miss him.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
God cry as refreshing day. I'm I'm gonna go be
home for you know Christmas. Someone you caught me. We're
packing my backpack. I'm going hiking an overnight camp and
(11:35):
that's what we did. So that's what I'm gonna do
you are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The Stewart now of his museum. We use that term
on the show a lot, because you are now, you know,
the curator and the Dosin of Jeff's museum, his jokes,
(12:02):
wisdom and all that lives on. The only thing that
ended when he died is his parent. The joy is
still in your memories, the joy is still in you.
The joy is in all those things. And I'm sorry
that's exacerbated by the low loss of your sweet pooch
as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
The two things you know people learn is problems will
occur and you will die. That's like one of the
first things you'll ever ever learn in life is that
it is temporary. Yet it's the one thing that takes
everybody by surprise.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And my grandpa he's lived to be one hundred and three,
and my father eighty one, so hopefully I'll be around.
Oh my other question, I know you have other calls,
but my other question is is deal with are they
together a puppy?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, you know, people ask about animals in heaven, and
interestingly enough, the imagery of what people refer to as
the end Time's imagery with the horsemen of the apocalypse
and so on. There is no reason to believe that
even just for joy, animals don't have souls in the
same way, in the same sense. But there is no
(13:26):
reason to believe that people won't see their animals again. Laura,
were up against the clock unfortunately. But go in peace
and let those tears purify and remind you that those
tears are are not for just the loss of something,
(13:47):
but the loss of someone special in this plane, on
this earth, in this way. But it's not the lack
of mercy that does that. Mercy is what brought you
to Jeff. Mercy is that you feel the good in
something that was painful, that you can have a relationship,
(14:10):
that you can have these things. The mercy is Atticus
had a place filled with love. I mean, these are
all the good things. Otherwise there be no tears. But
even in your own belief system, the pagan belief system
that you know, bashes to ashes, dust to dust, still
remains and those energies and all of those things go
(14:35):
back into the same system. And that's not counter to
even the scriptures and saying that those things are the
physical realm, and God is more focused on the spiritual. Timore,
(14:56):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ show. I am, well, how can.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I help you? Day?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
By the way, why thank you?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I w I wanted to ask a question. Well, I
was going up, I was growing up and muffs them
in households and stuff like too because of my dad's
strict origin and stuff like that. Ever since my parents
passed away, I've stopped praicing n Islam and stuff like that.
And right now I'm just I just believe in God
right now. But more and more I've been going towards
(15:29):
your way if the I mean, I'm trying to. I
don't know what my frieth's gonna be and stuff like that,
but for now, I just wanna follow you and stuff
like that, and follow your teaching because it's so I
I I love it all the time. I've sen at
nighttime all day long and stuff like that. So is
(15:49):
there anything wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, of course, you know, this show comes from a
particular perspective, and so we're gonna be biased when it
comes to that. But I'm curious as to why. You know,
often Jews, Muslims, and Christians are referred to as people
of the Book because it all starts with a Rahim
(16:17):
and moves through three major religions, so the beginnings, obviously
they're going to be very similar in those three faiths.
What is it now that makes you question the faith
of your birth and upbringing.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
It's not as a question. I'm proud of who I am.
I was born in Afaghan and stuff like that, and
that was my religion. But right now it seems to
getting harder and harder. You know, you have to a
pray five times a day, which I can't do it
because of what you're teaching is just you can just
buy your head anywhere pre any way you want, you know,
(17:01):
stuff like that. That's what makes it easy, if simple
for me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Do you think that faith should be easy and simple?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No, no, not think that should be simple and easy. I'm
just saying I want to religion because when I follow
the stories in your book and stuff like that, it's
so much fun. Like I just want to be part
of it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, I think that it's always we encourage people all
the time. We talked about this earlier that in the
Christian scriptures it says to test all things, hold fast
to that which is true, and that is a powerful
thing when it comes to your faith. Faith everyone thinks
(17:45):
is you know, leaving your brain on the sidewalk and
just believing, and that's not true. Faith is the very
small part that comes at the end of reason when
you can't know all things. And so I encourage you
to be prayer, to be prayerful, and you're seeking and
understanding as to what you want. But there are many
(18:06):
people that in life were raised one way and then
find a desire to learn or to strike out and
understanding different faith. And when doing so, it's important that
you do it with the proper mindset that you're going
that you're seeking truth and you're seeking a peace, and
(18:27):
you're seeking an understanding. And so as long as your
heart is in the place and your head is in
the right place to seek, I think you're good. I'm
a little concerned that you said that it was a
little easier, although yes, in many ways, I'm sure it
could be. But I want to make sure that you're seeking,
and I think you are. You're the joy and some
(18:50):
of those things and understanding that will only come from
reading scripture and asking questions. That is the way of
all things in life, is learning and asking questions and
adhering to that which is true. I pray that you
(19:11):
are with family and friends and you are feeling the
joy that surpasses circumstances in understanding the power of the
birth of Christ and the importance of salvation on a
hurting planet. And that if this sparks any curiosity in you,
(19:33):
that you will seek to learn more. And if you've
been away, welcome back. And to all those of you
that are in the secular form of Christianity enjoying the holidays,
to understand that often Christians have said Christmas is the
one time of year that non Christians get to feel
(19:56):
the joy that Christians feel every single day, knowing that
they are encapsulated in the love on the cross and
the sacrifice there. Welcome to the Jesus Christ show you Okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
How are you are you? Jesus?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Thank you for thinking my call.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I'm glad you're going to board tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, thank you so much. And uh, Jesus, you you
know what your name? You know what your name and
it means powerful in Hebrew.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Well, well, Jesus, you know uh his name.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Is. Uh isn't new name what I have now?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Because because uh my name, uh my my only name.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It was I don't know from where that name comes from.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But I'm happy you are happy you happing me because
because of such.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
A son of God, h you. You you were saying
to help to help people, not to destroy people. And
I'm going to tell you, thank you, thank you for
the help. No matter what if I have millions or
just even one penny in my pocket, no matter what,
(21:39):
the most important thing is it is the Remember.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Remember the the the three, the tree, the tree of
the life. I don't know if you remember that three, but.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
But now you are my tree of life. So you
know I'm eating I'm eating your world. I'm not I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Lie to you, Jesus.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I'm not eating every day because you know, sometimes if
I'm eating beans every day, I'm going to feel.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Bad from my stomach, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
But I'm taking your worry every day when I have
a time. And the most important thing, Jesus, is the
world you youlivered to everyone who really believe in you,
and not now be fake.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Is you know to or to put in practice in
all way.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
You know that you understand me, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I do, man, and I think that your statement is
an important one. Is that often people will think that
taking the Lord's name in vain is stubbing your toe
and saying Jesus Christ. But the reality is in scripture
using the Lord's name in vain as proclaiming something and
(23:06):
then living another way. Even times in scripture where people
were praising my name, following me saying you're the best
and everybody needs to know about you, and I did
what I turned around and said, get the behind me, Satan,
because it wasn't about the words, it was about the actions.
You draw an interesting tie the mact between consumption and food,
(23:33):
and so does scripture oftentimes about being having water endless
water to quench, and you won't get sick, and you
won't get full on the food of God. You will
forever be seeking more and more. And that is the
(23:57):
place that people should be. That is what you're desired
to be as children of God, is consuming the word
of God, coming into understanding, being strong and righting wrongs,
and forever refining yourself. You know, as we heard earlier,
(24:17):
knows that question what they're doing, the decisions that they're making.
The truth is each decision you make, as long as
your goal is to make the best decision, then you're
seeking the will of God. When you deviate from that
is when you find yourself missing the mark. And that's
really what the word sin means. It sounds like some
(24:41):
big religious term, but the reality is just means missing
your mark, the mark that you were designed to hit,
whether it's your creativity, whether it's your gifts and abilities,
whether it's whatever you have to offer to utilize those
things to the glory of God and to the help
of others. And I pray during this time of the
(25:04):
holidays and Christmas being here and the new Year coming soon,
that you will look inwardly instead of pointing at others
that are doing things wrong and your frustration with the world,
look inward on what you can do as an individual
to make that change. And in this time of birth
(25:27):
and newness, remember these simple words. I Am with you Always.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
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