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You're listening to KFI AM sixty ondemand. Mary, welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show. You know, inall the years I have listened to you,
I don't think anybody's called themselves adork on your shore before. But
I'm a dork. I'm pretty sureno one has. And if you looked
up the true meaning of that word, I really want to use it either.

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How can I how can I helpyou today? Mary? If you
keep making the same bad decisions,the same ones, over and over,
why would you forgive me again afterwe already know it's wrong and we repeatedly
do it. Well, there isa point where that's considered to be the
unpardonable sin. That's exactly, andthat's where I'm scared. Well, the

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only thing is is that people thattruly rebel don't care. They don't get
scared. I don't really rebel.I'm actually like this little chick who you
would know I would. I'm nota rebel in my own sense, I
am so as far as consequences,now, there's a difference. Let's say
you rebel against good nutrition and there'sa particular food that you eat. There's

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a food that you eat that whetherit causes you indigestion, or it causes
you whatever problems or whatever it mightbe. Well, there is built in
consequences to that in your life thatdoesn't have the same spiritual there are moral
issues, father, and I don'tparticularly like my paths at all. Well,

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then why you want it? Correct? Well, you tell me what
is it about this path that thatis so intriguing to you or exciting because
it's the only one I know.I have no family, I have no
one. It's just kind of likeit's the So it's men. Oh there,
yeah, they're involved. Okay,So it's men. And is it

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sexual sin that could happen? Okay, so it's it's in scripture that becomes
very serious because hey wait, let'sback up. Let me just back up
really quick. Okay, this it'sa question I want to know just because
Okay, in your time, whenpeople were pregnant and they got pregnant at

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sixteen, they met mister Wonderful,and MI like, walk them the donkey
out of it. If God doesn'tput in your path the man you're supposed
to live with, and I'm fortyfour years old, I'm just supposed to
be celibates the rest of my lifeand just like sit there and just it's
okay. When everybody else around you, it's like, has a family excuses

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Mary? If you're constantly with thewrong guy, how could God do anything?
I'm not going to put you ina holy headlock and force you into
something. You have free will.You have the abilities just like a child
that's raised from your birth parents.They teach you skills and abilities and give
you tools to use in everyday life. We're incredible at that is just like

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the perfect Irish Catholic, perfect person. And all I wanted was mister wonderful
to white picket fence and three puppydogs and three children. That's all I
wanted. I didn't want to livethrough this holy hell every day of being
alone. But why do you choosethe men that you choose? Why choose

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wrong men? Where do you findthe other ones? They do exist?
Where did you find these? Wheredo you find the right men? At
forty four years old? Well,I'm serious? Where you found the wrong
ones? No? They were whatbars? Clubs? No, not all
of them. Church. I wishI found them my church. No,

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I couldn't find them. I'd sitin the front row every week and sit
there and be little miss perfect.And I'd go to work and everybody go.
And you were speaking earlier about tryingto be a righteous person, and
I used to have people walk upto me at work all the time and
say, you're so fun, You'reso cute, you're so nice, You're
just you're so good to people.So why did God decide that I should

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be alone? He hasn't you have? I mean, I wish it was
easier than that. I wish youcould blame me, but it's not me.
The truth is Mary. If inscripture when it talks about being single
or not being married, there isa specific creature like Paul, that were

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designed in a way that it wasn'ta desire of theirs. You have the
desire. Therefore, if you thirst, there is something that will quench that
thirst. But if you reject thethings of God and keep taking that which
is quick and easy or around oravailable, and not wait, who's to
say that you're supposed to get marriedat any specific time to begin with.

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That's a societal demarcation. So youare to wait until you find somebody appropriate.
But if you continue to put somebodyinappropriate in your path, they'll be
never They'll never be an opportunity forsomebody who is appropriate, And you hold
on to the inappropriate ones too longbecause there's something and you continue to do

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that that's not God at all.I'm not judging that. I just have
not seen mister appropriate. He hasn'tknocked on my door in the last and
he won't. You know, there'sthe type of person that walks around going,
you know what, I'm waiting formy ship to come in. And
there's people that cut down trees,tie them together and make a raft.
Okay, but why are there people? Why are there people who get married

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to the loves or the lives ateighteen and lead like a blissful life,
And there are other of us whohave gone through basically hell and we still
sit here just going okay, thatdoesn't seem fair. I know life's not
fair, but explain that one.Why Why isn't life fair? I'm not
sure what you would decide it isfair or not fair. It seems that

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what you decide is fair or notfair is based on what Mary wants and
what Mary gets, which is alittle more of the Aruk assault type theology
from Willy Wonka than it is biblicaland I am so not that person,
and you don't even know me,but Mary, you focus on Mary.
If you learn to enjoy your owncompany and the things in life that are

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fruitful to you, and you explorethose things. Let's say you like reading,
and you explore those things and you'rearound places where there's books, then
you will find people of similar desires. But the quest cannot be for a
man anymore than the quest for aman is for a woman. This is
what confuses me. Men will lookfor adventure and a quest, and then

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a woman becomes the adventure in thequest, and when they have the woman,
then they're disappointed because the quest isover. The woman is not the
quest. The woman is is anotheradventurer in the quest of life, your
partner. And it's this kind ofskewed thinking that ends up getting people in
trouble and it makes you start tofeel like you're being singled out. But

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the fact of the matter is thatyou're just as desirable as anyone else,
that there is plenty not one manfor you, but there are plenty of
that type of man that would begood, that would suit you, that
would be fitting for you. Butyou continue to pass and by for the
ones that want to have sex,that don't care, that don't have your
same religious affiliation, your same worldview, your same ideas, or at least

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similar enough as far as their faithto be someone that would propel you,
that would allow you to shine andto be one hundred percent who you are.
And that doesn't always come quickly,but people keep wanting it, or
worse, feeling they deserve it.Crime and everything bad in the world happens

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because entitlement. People feel entitled tosomething. The man stealing, the woman
stealing feels they're entitled to whatever itis, regardless of working, having money,
or any of those things. Don'tget in that mindset of entitlement,
Mary, if you come to aplace of entitlement, you've lost it.

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Now. If you continue to makebad decisions in this particular case, Mary,
the consequence is the consequence. Youcontinue to find people that are not
good for you and to give them, give yourself to them. There's going
to be problems, there's going tobe big problems. And you give a

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little bit of yourself each time tothese people, and there's less of you
to give to the right guy.That you're so focused on obtaining live life
Mary. Enjoy yourself, do thingsyou enjoy, expand yourself, learn,

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explore life and you'll bump into otherexplorers. Sit in your house and you'll
sit with Mary. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday. Get out, explorelive life and others will follow.

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Andrew, Welcome to the Jesus ChristShow. Oh Jesus, Is it a
sin for a divorce person to marry? It can be, yes, It
depends on the circumstance. And nowunderstand that throughout the entirety of scripture,
there's nothing that says that divorce isa good thing. As a matter of
fact, throughout scripture it says thatGod hates divorce. But there are situations

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where it is okay. And ifyou remember all speaking about it is better
to marry than it is to burn, and that means burn with lust,
not like you're in hell or something. But so there's a point where you
have to factor that in and say, if you are a divorced person and
you're going through a state of lust, it's better. If you are a

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very sexual person and you keep havingthat reoccurring in your life, then that
it is better for you to girdthat in the proper concept and content of
a relationship than it is to justlet it run wild. What is your
particular situation, Andrew? My wifejust walked out on me, so she
didn't want to continue the marriage,so we just ended it. Did you

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know that if she had an affairor not? I'm not sure that.
How long were you guys together?About seven months? Wow, that is
a very short marriage there. Howlong did you guys know each other before
you got married? About a yearand a half. What do you think
went wrong? Andrew? What itwas? She's a foreigner and she used

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me for the green card to gethere. But that's not long enough.
Seven months isn't long enough. No, so it doesn't help her at all.
No, Well, if did youknow that going into the situation,
now she's using me for the greencard. No, you didn't have any

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inkling about that. No, whydon't you just get the marriage and all?
Well, that's what I'm doing,but by law, it's it's pretty
difficult to prove to do it.Yeah, there's a good, highly chance
I can lose the annulment. Well, in the eyes of God, the

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concern here is that that if youare going into marriage with the idea of
divorce being an option, that itjust becomes a problem. People get lost
and well, I can do thisand then I can get out of it
and everything becomes temporary. What Idon't want you to go into marriage is
thinking that it's like a dixie cupand it can be thrown away. And

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that's why divorces is so abhorrent toGod. But there is an understanding,
and if somebody breaches the contract andyou're not the one that breached the contract,
then there is always the possibility andthe option for remarriage. But I
wouldn't recommend getting remarried anytime soon.Andrew. Obviously there's not anybody in your

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life, correct. No, Idon't have any plans. I just had
a couple of bit I just wantto know what a certainstance. Pretty controversial
question. And during the year anda half you didn't notice anything about whether
the relationship was real or not.No, I loved her very much,

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and I could have been some signthat just didn't really notice. It gets
difficult sometimes. The key is tonot be blinded. Love is a wonderful
thing and a very powerful thing,Andrew, but it's also something that can.
As they say, love is blindand you should keep your senses about
you during the process if you findsomebody, and I would recommend spending a

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lot of time to get to knowyourself and why you would choose somebody like
that, and how you got sofar in a relationship that really was synthetic.
I would definitely focus in on thatbefore I got into any relationship whatsoever
with the opposite sex. Angel.Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Jesus,

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It's an honor to talk to you. My pleasure. How can I
help you? Thanks. I wouldlike to know if it bothers you if
I were a cross round my neck, because well, some friends have asked
me why do I do it?It was the instrument of your death.
So I told them that I wasgoing to ask you and see what you
have to say about this is Ithas become very fashionable to some people.

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I know Madonna and others have usedit as as just a kutman and then
in the Christian world there are manythat use it as a symbol to remind
them of their faith and the pricethat was paid, and that's a lovely
sentiment. I know some churches getupset and say, you know, you
shouldn't have anything or any graven imageof any kind. And and it wasn't

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what took place in the cross.And you've got you know, Catholics and
Protestants, you know, one wearsa cross, one wears a crucifix,
and you've got them saying, whywould you, you know, show the
death. Anybody could die on thecross. People did next to me,
if you remember the thieves. Soit's not about dying on the cross.
It's about the resurrection. And there'sthose that my producer Neil's always walking around

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with a smirk on his face saying, how come Christians don't have the empty
tomb around their neck? That makesmore sense. But the fact is,
for your purposes, it simply remindsyou of the price that was paid.
Correct, Yes, yes, wellactually it was given by my grandfather when
I did my first coman and whenI was eleven years old. Yes,

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and I have been learning it.Yes, So it ties into the dedication
of your faith and that has becomean important part to you. And it's
fine, that's what it means toyou. That is absolutely fine. It
was it was a means of tortureabsolutely. As a matter of fact,
the term excruciating, it's excruciatingly painful. That term actually comes from the word

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cruse or cross comes from the deathon the cross, the word excruciating.
So I understand that your friend wastrying to point out that it was an
instrument of death, but to Christians, it was an instrument of life.
It was the doorway in the physicallife of death. That was a public

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way of showing that I was goingto overcome that death on earth in a
way that would free those that believefor eternity. And if it's some people
may just wear it as well it'sa pretty symbol, or it was given
to me, or what have you. But if it's something that is tied

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into your faith, you hold onto it and you enjoy it for what
it is. Sometimes people get caughtup in the specifics of things and start
thinking, oh, well, thelaw says this or scripture says this.
Well, those laws are there toprotect from people worshiping things if it becomes
a point of worship. I've metpeople that think that cross has power around

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their neck, or that it issomehow it is embodies their faith. If
it gets to that point, youhave issues, there's problems, and I
don't want it to be in yourlife because it becomes overpowered. It overshadows
me and the death and the Cross. But if it's just something lovely that's
a reminder, or an heirloom,or something passed on down through families to

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families, or what have you,nothing wrong with that, Andy, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ. Hi,Jesus, Hi. Andy. I have
a question that's been concerning me aboutmy faith. Me and my mom,
we differ in the way we haveour points of view on it. We

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just recently moved out to a fiveacre parcel here in a It's a pretty
dry aired area here in southern California, and I already ever rains. We
live on a well, and whenwe first moved down, she started importing
all these flowers too, And Isaid, mother, shouldn't we be a
little bit more resourceful with our water? We do live on a well.
It's not, you know, infinitelyabundant. And she said, oh no,

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oh, no, God's going toprovide. And I said, well
that's fine, and I'm pretty surehe will, but you know, still,
shouldn't we conserve? And she said, no, no, no,
don't worry. God will provide.And I said, okay, that's fine,
so we keep planning. Eventually thewell went dry. I mean there's
water back now, but it wentdry for a couple of days and she
was just like, I went intothis whole state of panic, and I

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said, no, no, there'sno need. You know, I don't
think it's that has nothing to dowith God. It's just the simple fact
that we live on a while it'snot abundant, has a raining quite sometime,
and so my question is do wewant Because she always says that nothing
can happen until God says so.So is that so anytime she goes to

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do something, she says, oh, only God will allow me to do
that, if that's what he wantsme to do. But the way I
actually it is, I think hesays, well, whenever you're ready,
i'll take step for step with you, and I have the road paid for
you, but only until you're readyto take that step. And she says,
no, we cannot take a stepuntil God allows. So that's the
question I have. Well, there'sand it's not that you it's not that

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she's wrong, but there's scripture,you know, even Earlier we talked about
Proverbs twenty one to twenty In thehouse of the whys are stores of choice,
food and oil. But a foolishman devours all he has, which
is essentially what was being done.Correct. So it's there's scripture that talks
about being a wise steward of thatwhich you have. And in the case

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of somebody who overly spiritualizes everything,you have to remember this handy God puts
you on earth first. Now,Earth is not the perfect world. It's
the best way to the perfect world, which is Heaven. But you're here
because God says so, and there'sa practical method of living here. There's

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things you can't do. You wouldnever put a gun to your head with
bullets in it and say God willprovide me protection from this weapon to my
head. You wouldn't do that.That would be stupid, and you die.
So the way there's a difference betweentrusting God and tempting the situation if

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if you have tools, you areto use them, and one of the
tools you are to use is yourbrain. It says in scripture that you're
to love God with all your heart, all your soul, and all of
your intellect. So your your mindis a tool, and you were using
it. You were saying, no, God's giving me this tool to think,
and I'm looking over the situation andI don't think this is a practical

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way. Now in aprop in somethingthat is more providing in nature, meaning
you know, we have to drinkthis water from the well and trust that
God will put more in it.That's different. You have to drink it.
But just going well, we wantflowers, or we want this,
or we want that. That becomesa state of pride and vanity, that

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you want things certain way the wayyou want them, and that you're saying,
well, God, you cover thetext on this, you cover the
rest. And that's not the wayit works. And so in the loving
manner that she was approaching this,she actually, you know, being a
loving godly woman, she actually wasgoing against the very word of God.

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And that happens, you know,people do that in wanting to follow the
letter of the law, they actuallyare breaking down the law and going outside
of the law. You need tobe wise with that which you have.
And if you only have a littlebit, you know, it's it's get
flowers in the like may bring joyand maybe a little bit over here would

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be a good idea or a littlebit over there, but understand that you
have limitations. It's the same asgoing, well, you know what,
we're almost broke, but you knowwhat, I'd like to go see a
movie and God will provide. No, this isn't that. A movie's not
necessary. Flowers aren't necessary. Godprovides what you need when you need it,
not what you want when you wantit. And so patient because what

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your your parents do come out oftheir love and their deep faith. But
you, guys, are a family, and your balance is there for a
purpose, and you have to finda way in love and respect to offer
correction or other ideas, or howabout this, how about we compromise and

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we get you know, some succulentor something that is pretty but retains its
water longer, and uh therefore,well, you know, split the difference
a little bit. Be smart.So it's not always in logic. It's
called a faulty dilemma if you havejust either or. Sometimes there's either or,

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and okay, we we're not goingto plant all the flowers, but
we're going to plant a small amountof flowers or this uh succulent or cactus
or something that that is not goingto need the watering so that your mom
gets the joy, which there's nothingwrong with having joy and you of God's
creation, but also there's a balanceunderstanding that you are economizing and saving water

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conserving because of the situation. Well, thank you very much for answering my
questions, and you have a blessedday you as well. Andy. There
is a balance in all things,and throughout scripture you'll find that to be
a theme. And the theme isis that God loves a proper balance.
You'll see that throughout when it talksabout merchants in Proverbs. But the imagery

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there is specifically dealing with merchants,talking about the scales that they use to
weigh whatever the product was or what'sbeing purchased. Right, so you get,
you know, the image of someoneputting a rock in there to make
it heavier so that you pay more, and then the image of the person
buying it putting their hand under thescale so that it weighs less so they

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don't have to pay us more.And that God abhors that. You know.
There was a day when recycling startedbecoming popular in the early early eighties
and people were filling their cans,aluminum cans with sand or with rocks,
and then crushing them, then stompingon them so that each can was heavier

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because they weigh it by the pound. How you get paid. And it's
not like they just count them.Now they've changed the methods now to fend
off that kind of person. Butthat attitude about the false balance is a
great illustration about how you live yourlife spiritually. You're here on earth for

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a reason. There's an old saying, don't be so heavenly minded, you're
no earthly good. There's a balance. The reason why I came in the
flesh was to show that balance.Think about some of the miracles that took
place when I multiplied the fish andthe loafs. What did I say,
pick up the crumbs? Doesn't thatseem strange If I'm about to produce this

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miracle, if I'm about to feedthousands, don't you think I could pick
up the crumbs too, all inone fail swoop, some wave of the
wand some twinkle of the nose.Of course, the purpose was to have
the disciples there in the moment tounderstand the practicality of what needed to be

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done. Picking up the prumb thecrumbs. When I raised the girl from
the dead, I said, gether something to eat. The same thing
applies. I could have filled herstomach. But you have to be here
in the now, in the practical. There are practical things that need to
be done. Don't be caught up. I put you on earth for a
reason and not directly into heaven.There are things to be learned, things

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to be understood, and there arepractical things. I will be at the
end of the rope. But don'tjust constantly pull to the end of the
rope and say God's going to behere. God's going to provide. That's
not the way it works. Thereare still things you're gonna have to learn,
and there's going to be times whereyou will run out if you are
not a good steward of those things. You are to tend to the field,

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you are to tend to your home, you are to tend to your
finances. That commandment goes throughout theentirety of scripture. And be a good
steward to these things. That's whatyou're called to do, and I will
be there with you. Stacy,Welcome to the Jesus Christ show. Hi,

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Jesus, I got a question.Sure, listen. I'm of the
Pagan faith. I have been justabout all of my life. My family's
taken most of them are and someof them are split between Pagan and Irish
Catholic. But I've been wanting togo to like a Catholic church, Like

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I don't. I just feel theneed to. I don't know if that
makes any sense, of course,I just feel the need to. I
don't know. Maybe it's turn aroundmy life. Maybe I'm just getting older.
I don't know. I just feelthe need to. Do you have
to be Catholic to go? Doyou? I mean, can you just
show up? Do you have tomake a point of no? Nope,

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and don't don't partake in a churchthat ever makes you do that. See,
I didn't know that. I'm notfamiliar with that or anything. I've
gone to churches before, I've listenedto your show before, you know,
so I'm not completely in the darkabout anything Christian or Christianity period, or
was Catholicism. I just didn't knowabout that specifically. No, you go

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up or sometimes churches can be alittle intimidating, and Catholicism is very structured
and sometimes people fear that, butreally that's it's a beautiful thing. That
structure can be very empowering and itcan be very helpful. So if you
find a church in your local areathat you want to attend, the biggest

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important thing is to go when itwhen the time says to go, So
whenever the service or the mass is, you want to go during that time
and find a place where you cansay. The only thing is that in
the Catholic Church they're going to askthat you don't participate in certain things like
taking communion and that type of thing. But as far as experiencing and learning

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and asking questions, absolutely you shouldbe welcoming any church. And the process
is that when people are you know, a member of a parish or they
are a member of a church,or at that point, I want you
to participate, you know, ifit's something you feel led or moved to

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do and participate whether it's with youknow, children or what have you as
you get involved in a church.But if you're just seeking and are curious
and want to ask questions or wantto sit and be left alone and just
kind of you know, soak upthings, yeah, you should be You
should walk into any church. Youknow, there was a there was a
day where churches were open twenty fourto seven and you just walked in and

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were silent. If they're wasn't aservice or a mask going on, and
you just prayed. And so Iwant you to feel welcome wherever you go.
And keep in mind that God's peopleat times are very open, and
which they should be, and ifsometimes they're closed, which they shouldn't be,

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but don't hold that against me.Please be open to receive whatever you
can as you walk in and seewhat God is saying to you at that
particular time. Okay, well,well the part of the thing is is
that I was passing by and itwas like you passed by churches all the
time, but it just for somereason, like something was telling me to

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pull in there and I didn't.But I'm going to And that's why I
wanted to find out, because Idon't think that just happens for no reason,
like no at all. You're absolutelyright. I'm knocking on that door
of your heart, but it openson your side, not mine. But
I'm going to ask you something,Stacy. I want you to do that

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if you're feeling that, to dothat, I want you to do that,
but I want you to call backor contact me and give us a
call when you go, because I'dlove to hear about your experience, good
or bad. Okay, all right, excellent. Then I expect to hear
back from you. That's wonderful.I love hearing that that people are motivated
to try something new, and youshould always be welcome in the church.

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