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You're listening to KFI AM six fortyon demand. The concept of of pilfing
from the Bible. The Bible isa powerful book. It's over two thousand
years old. It was written inits entirety over a span of about fourteen
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hundred years around forty authors in threelanguages, on three different continents, in
times of peace, in times ofwar, by kings and peasants alike.
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It's a powerful book. It's abook, regardless of your religious beliefs,
that people read all the time justfor the historical content. Archaeologists use it
every single day. It is oneof the single most utilized books of antiquity
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used for archaeological study to this day. And yes, Hollywood even takes bits
and pieces of it and uses itbecause it works and it's good and it's
interesting. But does that mean thatthey're going to give credit to scripture?
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Does that mean that they're pointing towardsthe Gospel, the good News? No,
because even when there are films thatare made about religion, they usually
have a spin on them as ifas if someone in Hollywood could put a
better spin on scripture than God himself, so would And the Bible have an
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odd relationship it is. It isthe breast from where everyone feeds, but
yet nobody gives credit. That's justthe way it works. It's like television
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and I Love Lucy. Watch anepisode of I Love Lucy if you haven't
a long time, and you'll go, oh, my goodness. Every single
show that has been made since thetime of I Love Lucy and now is
a direct ripoff of I Love Lucy. And the Bible has been a source
of creative inspiration for many, andI think people are compelled to go towards
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and to read and to consume scripture. But there are those that refuse to
see it as the word of God, but also still see the brilliance in
it, and they battle with that, and it gets made into certain concepts
get placed into film, and everyonce in a while you'll go, oh,
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Just like there's common phrases in modernspeech that some know come from scripture
and some don't. Scapegoat some knowcome from scripture, some don't. Good
Samaritan some know comes from scripture,some don't. Prodigal Son again, over
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and over all these concepts, andthey many of them have been used in
film. But that's really about thestate of humanity that humans like to pick
and choose. It's one of thescariest parts of about Christianity is to see
it as in its entirety and asa whole, to consume it a lot
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of the modern type religions or asthey would claim, non religions, or
really about just taking what you want, and it's all about you and how
you're going to achieve happiness, andyou're going to achieve a level of christ
consciousness, and it's all about youand about the things you're going to receive.
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Scripture is not about that. Scripturesabout God and why you should have
a relationship with God because it's righteous, not because it's necessarily going to make
things work out even on earth.It's about doing it because it's true and
it's right. And having Hollywood consumethat is not always that as easy as
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it may sound. People want toreject things. People love law enforcement when
they come to protect them. Peoplehate law enforcem when they come to correct
them. And it's the same waywith scripture. People love it when it's
on their side. People love itwhen it's something they're already doing and they
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could say, see this proves it. But if it is used to correct,
or to guide, or to teach. Is when people start to wrestle
with it and say, oh,you know what, that scripture it's too
oppressive, you know what, soembraces but they're oppressive for a reason,
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to help guide back the crooked teethinto their proper spacing and placement. Freedom
is a wonderful, wonderful thing.The abuse of freedom is the most ugly
thing. And so the Bible willcontinue to be a resource for writers and
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filmmakers who want inspiration because the conceptsin it are timeless and ever teaching,
they're profound, and more importantly,they're true. But people don't want to
deal with religious things because oh,well, you know, organized religion and
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all that, and so people runfrom it and they take concepts because the
Bible continues to be compelling, filledwith what some may see as only stories
that others will see our life changingand inspiring and educational towards how to use
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this body of yours like a loveletter and an instruction manual all together rolled
up into one. But people willcontinue to quote things and misquote them and
even think that there's some things thatare in scripture that are not or that
they've heard something so that they believeit to be true, and it goes
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on and on. That is thecycle of this fantastic book that has inspired
many and continues to do so forthose that actually pick it up and read
it, not just in bits andparts, but truly read it. Try
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to understand the chronology and what tookplace when and why, and the history
and who these people were and whythey mean something to the church, what
they had to go through or whatthey did to perpetuate this book, these
concepts, these ideas to help peopleunderstand, to help people see the truth.
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Often people died just for proclaiming whatis in this book that's true.
Sadly people still do today, notin the United States at least not very
often, but all over the worldpeople are persecuted for what's in this book.
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Hollywood, like everything else, willcontinue to come to it as if
it's a carcass for their picking.And there are those that will do justice
to it and those that will not, and those that will steal and put
it in a film that has nothingto do with God. Because the truth
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is there and that it has goodstructure. But I fear not, God
sees all and In the end,the Bible has the most power in its
entirety. Mark, Welcome to JesusChristia. Thanks for taking my calls.
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Jesus, would you please give mesome advice. I am one of your
servants and I do love you withall my heart. But I must be
honest to say that I'd been havinga drug problem. And I know of
your healing power, and I knowof your power of forgiveness, but I've
been struggling. I feel sober badbecause I haven't been living up to my
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true pretend to the question is,Jesus, what can you tell a person
like myself or any others that thisto help them ready rid this problem and
live out, live out up upto my full potential. Well, people
do it, Mark, people doit all the time. What particular drug
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is your fancy? Now, it'snot the time to lie, absolutely honesty,
it's the best policy, okay.And how long have you been doing
crack off and off for like sevenyears? And have you ever tried to
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work a program or go into aprogram that can help you and what happens?
What's your downfall? Basically just notbeing able to find an opinion and
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just a weakness on my on mybehalf. You say not being able to
find a companion, now's not thetime for a companion. You're trying to
you're trying to polish yourself and removethis from your life so that your companion
worthy. You don't need somebody acompanion for that. As a matter of
fact, I would scrape all ofthat off of your life and focus solely
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on this concern, and that isthat this is something you invited into your
life and you continue to invite inyour life. And now there's you know,
addiction is involved in it, andthat's going to take medical help as
well. But you have to takeit incredibly serious and you have to,
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you know, jump into it completelyand wholeheartedly to make it happen. It's
not about forgiveness. There's nothing tobe forgiven for yet because you're you're there's
no repentance, you're not having itremoved from your life in any way,
shape or form. You're continuing doingit. Now. You can beat yourself
up over doing it, or youcan get real help that removes you from
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the process. It's not about companionship, it's not about any of those things.
Something drove you to this particular drugthat's highly addictive, and you continue
to use it every day, Andthe key is to not use it every
day. That's the simple truth.Find new ways, whatever they may be,
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each and every day mark to notuse That's what you have to do.
And you're going to need help indoing that because doing it alone is
going to be too large of atask. Diane, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show. Hi, Hi Diane. How can I help you? I'm
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dealing with as how long ago wasthis? What if? Osternal souls with
your father? You have to trustthat God has a way of working through
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these things and that it's not foryou to necessarily know, but you should
have peace that God works all thingsout to his glory. Well, why
didn't take my business? Do youknow why your son took himself? Why
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wasn't shop inspiritors? The holy spirits? There hep deal with? If you
even know what day it is?Most of the time, you remember when
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I hate to last. My ownwife is fractured. But how do you
think that that honors your son bynot eating or not knowing what day it
is? How does that honor hislife? Yeah, it seems like you're
giving reverence to his death, butnot to his life. I just miss
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him so much, of course youdo. He was such a good boy,
who was such a good person.He loved everybody. He didn't have
any friends, he only had adoptedbrothers and sisters. Did he leave a
note? Did he leave a note? No? No, no, no
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later, no email, nothing.So that that makes it that much more
difficult to not as to why hedid what he did. I know he
was planning it for a long time. How do you know that? Because
he would go on hikes with hisbrother and they would find he would stop
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at places and kind of look aroundand he'd say like, no, not
here, not there, and thenhe would find a place. Then he
would have a place that he decidedto hang himself. And that's where he
finally stopped winning on hikes with hisFrench and his brothers. So he would
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talk about where he would hang himselfwhen he would go on hikes. No,
he didn't say I'm going to hangmyself. That it was like not
here, not here, not there, not no, let's let's go.
Did he have mental problems? Idon't. I know, it's hard.
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It's hard to say because he wasthirty, so I couldn't like and have
him go see a counselor or behospitalized or put on some kind of medication,
or he was too old. Isee, but did you see any
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signs of it? As a mother, I know, it's kind of difficult,
you know, hindsight being twenty twenty, I would say, yeah,
but I but no one knows whywith no note, nothing left behind,
no one really knows why he didwhat he did. Yeah, you know,
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I don't have any cruise about whyhe actually did what he did.
And now he's gone, and Ican't even, you know, slap him
because I'm so mad at him fordoing that. Oh, I'm sure,
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you know. And I just II can see now, you know.
I would do things like say hewould sleep all day and I which is
usually a sign of depression. Yeah, And I would say, and I
would come home and I would orleave for work, and I would say,
if you could be up in themorning or up in the afternoon when
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I get home from work, I'lltake you down and get your license.
So I'll take you down and getthe registration for your car. Or I'll
take you down and we can getinsurance. And he keeps saying no,
Mom, No, Mom, becauseshe didn't want me to spend the money
on things that he wasn't going touse. And I see that now.
Is there any drinking or drug usein the house by you or anyone else?
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No, I'm little drinking. Maybeput no drugs and he didn't drink
at all, gotcha? But youdo, I do a little bit.
You know, I haven't talked everytime before you admit? Has that progressed
it all afterwards? No? Okay? Well, the pain of losing someone
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in so called normal circumstances is badenough. When you come across the situation
where someone takes their life and theyespecially don't leave any sort of closure.
People make the mistake of thinking thatcommitting suicide ends the pain, and it
doesn't. It passes it on toyour loved ones and those that are still
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living, and so you are therecipient of that. But you can choose.
You can choose you are alive,Diana, and you can choose to
remember the loving person that he wasand the things that he did, or
you can focus in on his deathand the ugly way that he died,
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and that can haunt you and thatcan rule your life and the things that
you do. Obviously it is nowif it's keeping you from eating and you
don't know what day it is,and it's you know, the Sunday after
Thanksgiving, it's a fairly easy oneto remember with her, to realize you
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can't live this way, and thatdoesn't that doesn't do anything to honor his
life. It puts all of thaton hold. It's like you've packed away
his entire life, only focusing onhis death, and that's all anyone will
know or experience of him. Andthen sooner or later people don't want to
come around you or want to spendtime with you because as much as they
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would like to talk maybe about him, they certainly don't want to focus in
on the death. Okay, helived for thirty years, that had nothing
to do with his death, andto wrap that up in one ball as
one ugly exit is not healthy foryou and really adds nothing to him.
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And you're his mom. You're theone that can teach people about the way
he laughed or the things that hedid do that we're loving and kind and
human. And if all you,as the now curator of his museum,
if you're only focusing on the death, that's all anybody's going to know.
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And that's all anybody's going to seeon your face. Okay. And it's
not that you shouldn't mourn, youshould, but there's a time for morning,
Scripture says, and there's a timefor joy. And if you stay
in this state of mourning, allyou're going to do is augur yourself.
You're going to spin out of control, and people are going to fear being
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around you and trying to connect withyou. And I don't think that this
would be the goal of your son, do you. No? He was
You would if you know him atall. He's had a good, kind,
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general loving spirit. He loved everybodyhe had. Like I tell people
when I talked about him, hehad no friends. She only had brothers
and sisters. And did he getalong with his brothers and sisters? Not
his real brothers and sisters, butthe one she adopted. His brothers and
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sisters, his biological brothers and sistersvery basically abandoned him and didn't do anything
for him or to help him.Why do you think that? Huh?
Why do you think that's the case? Because I know I was there,
No, But why do you thinkthey would do such a thing? Oh,
they thought he was a He wouldn'tget a job and they so they
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berated him all the time. Theynever invited him for a dinner or stay
over, never sent him a birthdaycar or a Christmas card, So he
was ostracized quite a bit from thefamily. Could set apart and me,
he and I. They would gooff for some big family dinner or something,
and he I wouldn't be invited.It would be just him and I
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together. Why do you think theytreated you that way? I because my
youngest daughter has hated me from dayshe was born. Well that's odd.
Yeah, no, no, Imean that's odd. That's for everything in
her life. She lost three babies, that was my fault. She couldn't
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go to school when she turned fivebecause there's no midterm. That was my
fault. She anything that happened badto her was my fault. Always met,
she hates me? Where was dad? And all of this? Uh
kind of around but divorced? Now, why did you guys divorce? I
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didn't want to live like that anymore? And what was living like that with
somebody who was cold or unemotional andinvolved with my kids? Controlling? Why
did you choose someone like that tobe their parent. Why would you choose
someone like that to be your partnerand their parent. I didn't know that
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he would be turned out to bethat way. When I first married him,
he wasn't that way, but heturned out to be his mother.
I see. Well, it soundslike there's a lot more to this on
as far as family dynamics. Soundslike there's kind of a mess there,
wouldn't you say? Oh yeah,stepmother, Matthew's death at her at her
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feet? Why would you do sucha thing? She beat him, she
made him into when she was hewas there, she made him into like
a little slave out there waiting hervegetable patch and put him in the basement.
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Now, why why would she spendtime there? How come he wasn't
with you? Oh? I mean, I'm on an alternate weekend. Well,
there's there's there's something, Diane,There's something here that's outside of the
scope of the time that we have, that's for sure. But there's a
lot of a lot of knots inthat rope. And there's so much more
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than just the pain that he wasgoing through and the pain that you're going
through. And there's a lot ofpain obviously with his passing, but there's
other pain there too. There's remnantsof other things that I'm not sure about
unless we talk for more. Unfortunatelywe don't have that kind of time,
but I would suggest that you findsomeone that does that. You find a
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professional that can listen, a pastorif you have a church, a priest,
or someone that you can talk to, because there is a lot that
went into that particular death and allthe surrounding things with you. And I'm
sorry that you're in pain, andI'm sorry for your loss, and you
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need to trust that God has dealtwith that. But you need to focus
on finding your life and your voiceagain without him here, so that you
can move on, because there's noglory or no gain by being in that
state of sadness to a point whereyou're ruining yourself. And I'm concerned about
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the drinking, honestly, and Iwould look into those things and see what
are the demons that you need todeal with yourself. John, Welcome to
Jesus CHRISTO. Yes, I waswondering about the after life. Okay,
before life, well that would bethis life before life. Oh after life
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is this life? Well? No, after life would be after this life?
Oh, after this? See howthat works? After life? That
would be after this physical life.I say there is no before this physical
life. No, there's some thatbelieve that in the Christian traditional Christian theology.
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No, not in that sense.The Plato postulated that there was pre
souls and pre incarnate souls and thingslike that, but most Christians don't believe.
How about him? Did you thinkthere was an afterlife? Why would
you? As sir, well,I read it in a book. You
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read it in a book? Inwhich book was that? Let me see?
I got right here. It's calledThe Pleasures of Philosophy by William Durant.
Oh, I see well. Asfar as the comparisons between Plato and
Socrates, there are similarities, asthere are with all teachers and students,
but there are differences as well.So is your curiosity just philosophical or is
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it theological? A little bit ofboth. Does this pertain to you directly?
Are you concerned that there won't bean afterlife for you? No,
I'm not really concerned for myself.I don't really know. I'm an agnostic.
I don't really know. Okay,do you think that there's a way
to know it? All, ordo you think it's just empty faith?
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Well I did say it was emptyfaith? Is pace empty? Well?
It depends who you ask, really, Okay, But as far as you're
from your own standpoint, do youthink that it's something that can be known
or you just won't know until you'rethere. I don't know how you could
know unless you have experience. Ohso you can only know things through your
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own experience, well experience talents,of course it does. But you can't
experience everything yet. There are manythings that you know that you take based
on faith that someone else experienced them. Well, I have I have an
axiom like one equals one. Ibelieve that's kind of true. Yes,
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one does indeed equal one. Okay, I might point my point being that
there are lots of things that youwill come to learn or come to understand
in life that aren't from your ownexperiences but from other people's experiences. And
and that's a good thing as well. It kind of goes hands in hand
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