Jesus Christ Show | Hour 2 [12/10]

Jesus Christ Show | Hour 2 [12/10]

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to KFI on demand.Jim, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hi, how are you, Jesus? I'm well, Jim. What's
going on? I'm just having problemsin my marriage. It's my second marriage,
and I'm not sure what to do. Uh. I've been married now,

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in my second marriage for six years. I was married fifteen years prior
to that to another woman who Iam friends with. Now. Basically,
you know, the blended family thingis just not it's really not working.
So you there's kids both from previousmarriage. He has she has two daughters,

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and I have one daughter. Andthey're all teenagers and they're all girls.
So I live in a house basicallywith four with four you know,
young women and one adult woman.And and you know, from a man's
point of view, at least frommy point of view, it's very difficult
at times to deal with their moodswings, you know, from their hormonal

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or whatever standpoint. And I,you know, prior to her meeting me,
I used to drink a lot.When I separated from my first wife,
I suffered depression and I drank alot. And I've had a lot
of women in my life to escapeand what were you escaping from? Changed

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all that? So what were youescaping from the pain of not being with
my daughter? Okay, and youknow I've changed all that, but you
know, she just still doesn't trustme. I'm always getting accused if I'm

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a salesman, if I get ifI get home late, if I leave
early, you know, if sheif she reads my text messages, which
I don't have a problem with,but you know, ask me in a
way that you know is respectful,don't accuse me of stuff. Well,
well, let's kind of look atthis through a couple of different perspectives.
First of all, you mentioned thebeing with a bunch of women and their

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home hormones or whatever. I don'tknow that that's particularly the case. There's
many things that can cause issues whenyou blend a family automatically, and it
doesn't necessarily have anything to do withhormones. So I don't know that that's
always the fair assessment. I knowmany guys tend to go to that place,

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but there can be a lot ofthings that you're bringing to the equation
that can cause people to be upsetor what have you. You have had
a pattern, This doesn't come outof nowhere now. You may know that
it's unjustified now, but your wifeemotions aren't completely unjustified. It you you've
said yourself that you used to drinkand used to womanize exactly. So these

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are all based on things you've donein the past. How is how is
the so other than than your wifebeing curious as to where you are and
what you're doing. How is theso called problems in the blended family materialize
them? I mean it was astruggle. It was a struggle early on,

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a real struggle. And you know, especially with one of her daughters,
you know, who was really disrespectfuland and just you know the way
she was raised. She she,my my new wife came from a really
bad marriage where there he was verballyand emotionally abusive to them, and so

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she really had a negative attitude.And you know, I had to have
a I was gentle, but yetat the same time, I had to
have a firm hand if I wasgoing to make this work with them.
And I'm not allowed now to sayanything. My opinion is not respected or

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allowed. And if I see somethingthat I don't think is right, I
state my opinion. I do itrespectfully, but I'm basically shot down.
What would be something you see thatyou don't feel is right? Okay,
well I think that Okay. Theoldest daughter is the one that I have

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the problems the most with, andI love her dearly, but she is
a procrastinator. She's an underachiever.She's had several boyfriends after her mother swear
that she would not let her haveboyfriends anymore. And she spends a lot

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of time on the on the couchwatching television. How old is she?
She's seventeen. She's going to begoing to college this fall. Is so
is my daughter. Okay, butmy daughter is a four point two student,
which you know, I'm not comparingthe grade point averages here, Yeah
you are. You just did actuallyliterally you just did well. I guess

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I did. But I'm comparing theeffort, is what I'm saying. Is
there do you find that there's alearning disability of any kind with the eldest
daughter or anything that might cause thatto manifest in a way that hurts?
Like her youngest daughter is fourteen,and she's very smart and gets all a's

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in school too, And she says, well that her older daughter just struggles.
She's just not as you know,smart as the other ones. And
I don't I'm not willing to sellyou sold on that I think she is
that smart. Okay? Has hedid the eldest daughter do better in school
at one time? Or Yeah?When she was in middle school and junior

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high school, she did a lotbetter than she Then she got into high
school. And what happened around highschool, Well, you know the first
thing that happened is that she Igot a phone call because her mom was
out of town, and I gota phone call and she was caught having

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intercourse with a boy at school.And I mean I didn't say anything.
I didn't yell at her. Iwent and picked her up, and she
got suspended from school, and Italked to her and I said, you
know, people make mistakes, andyou know, did you use protection?
And I asked the basic questions andI let it go. At that point,

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I said, you're going to haveto deal with your mother at this
point, because I don't handle I'dnever handled her girls in that fashion.
I've just stated my case, okay, And what what kind of relationship does
the eldest daughter have with her birthfather? She moved out when she was
fourteen, she left him and cameto the house because she wanted to be

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with me rather than him. Anduh, do you guys bicker? Are
we excuse me? Do you bicker? Do you fight? Like not knock
down, drag out? We don'tbicker. We don't bicker. There's times

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where she's out of wine, whereyou know, she gets frustrated because I
tell her, you know what,you need to just go to your room
and be quiet, and she getsa little bit upset about that. But
we don't We don't fight. Wedon't argue. I mean, and for
the most part, she respects meall the time. But if I ask
her for her help, she helps. You know, she's a good kid.

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But you know, there's things abouther that I wish to improve,
and I'm not being allowed to doit. Okay, but it's going to
be hard to improve. You've gota lot going on. First of all,
she came into your life at youknow, eleven years old or so,
and you're dealing with her as she'sgoing through an important time in her

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life, and she's being pulled apartfrom a family that in her head was
always going to be together regardless ofwhatever problems they had in that household.
Blended families can be very difficult.The key always is going to be between
you and the mother, two parentsloving each other and being the example,

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setting the example. As far asdiscipline, the discipline of those children is
really going to be based on yourwife. Their mother. She should set
the tone for discipline for those girlsbecause they're her girls. And you can
be a good step dad, andyou can be good counsel to your wife
and all of those things, butshe has to raise those children, and

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you've got one that's going to gooff to college. You can't help but
wonder if there's a sexual intercourse goingon at such a young age that it
might not have something to do withher searching for that male attention and those
things that are being torn apart inher life. It's not about being a
stern hand. It's about being agood voice and a good partner to your

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wife in a way that the kids, all the kids yours and hers,
can see it and use it asan example. That's the best you're going
to be able to do in asituation like this. Sean, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Hi.All right, My question is why did
Satan rebell against God if he ultimatelyknew God would destroy them at the end.

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And basically, you know what makesStayton think that he'll be able to
result himself above the throat of God. It's an interesting question because you think,
Wow, you know you're there inthe presence of God already, You're
a special creation, a beautiful angel, powerful angel, and then all of

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a sudden there's this rebellion. Thebelief in modern Christian theology is very simple.
It's pride. Now, angels havethe same ability to rebel as humans
do, with some exceptions. Theyhave the total some knowledge they will will
ever have, so anything done willbe permanent, and the decision has been

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made, both good and bad hasbeen made. So the one third of
Heaven that went with him all locked, that's their decision. Those that stayed
all locked, that's their decision.It is also said that it is believed
that angels have intellectual and emotion aswell, the same as humans do.

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Again, the difference being they havethe total some knowledge they're going to have,
whereas you are accumulating knowledge throughout yourlife, and only at the point
of death will you be at thatpoint that that same point that an angel
would be where you had the totalknowledge of making any decision that would be
permanent. So now you take allof those things, and you have this
angel that slowly starts becoming prideful,wanting to be God. Isaiah fourteen twelve

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through fourteen. How you are fallenfrom heaven Odai, Star, son of
Dawn, How you are cut downto the ground. You lay the nations
low. You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven above the
stars of God. I will setmy throne on high. I will sit
on the mount of Assembly. Andit goes on and on, And that's
the version I'm kind of stuck atbecause so it's angels are supposedly, you

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know, a thousand times smarter thanus humans are. I mean, how
does that make any sense that heknows that he's signing his own dessentence?
Or does she think that? Isn'tthat interesting? Isn't that interesting that your
assumption is that sin is based onignorance not intelligence. That's not the case.

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It's a matter of thinking you canget away with it, building up
pride. That's what we talked aboutearlier. Getting to a place where you
know, many criminals are caught people. They understand the consequences, but you
fool yourself into believing and you thinkit's an intelligent thing and it's not not
at all. Pride supersedes that.Pride becomes the power that leads, not

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the mind or the intellect. Soyou go straight to the smarts when it's
not smarts at all. It hasnothing to do with that. It's pride
that builds up exactly every time.Think about the things you do wrong in
life. So Sean, when youmake mistakes, you sin, you know
you're coming for that sin. Youknow it, you're approaching it, and

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you're justifying it in your head.Well, it's okay if I speed because
I need to get there and i'ma little late, or I'm a good
driver. These other people are idiots, but I'm good and I'll take care
of this. You justify it,and that's all the enemy did. It's
not about intellect at all. There'svery smart criminals out there. All they
do is they allow their emotions tosupersede their greed, to supersede their intellect,

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to transcend above that and tell them, hey, you could be something
even better if you broke the rules. Karen Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hi, good morning. I waswondering about pluralistic marriage where a man
could have more than one wife inthe Old Testament, and my husband and

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I are just driving along and discussingthis. So I was wondering if you
could give me some insight about whenthat became permissible in the Old Testament and
then when it stops being permissible.Okay, it's not permissible, It's never
permissible. Why is your husband?Uh? Is he trying to negotiate with

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you? Or this is just theologicalWe're driving along and we've got the Bible.
We just we talk about things.Okay, that's wonderful. I was
wondering, you know, somehow hewas going, so, honey, what
would you think if we got alittle, you know, extra help around
the house? Uh? Yeah,probably not not a good idea. But

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since you both are just looking atit academically, understand this that not everything
in the the Bible is prescribing whatyou what you should do. Sometimes it
just talks about what's being done,and that happens throughout the entirety of scripture.
Now, there's ways that you canyou can conclude based on what's being

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said in scripture uh that polygamy isnot for the godly person. In the
New Testament, for Timothy three totwo and twelve Titus one six, it
talks about the standard and qualifications forspiritual leadership, and that person is to
be a husband of one wife,it says, right. And it also

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goes on to talk about different thingsthat dealing with leadership, dealing a beat,
like being above reproach, being temperate, self control, respectable, hospitable.
So if these things are for everybeliever, then there's no reason to
believe in not just for leadership,there's no reason to believe that the other

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qualifications here in this case dealing withthe husband of one wife, that that
is not forevery Christian either. Plus, you can look back to Adam and
Eve and the creation, that Godwas looking to build a couple that would
work together and that could be partners. And the word in scripture is help
meet, and that God wanted Adamto have a help meet, proper help

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meet, and in this case itwas woman, and it was one woman.
So when you combine all those thingsand you look, you can even
find in Deuteronomy Deuteronomy seventeen fourteen throughtwenty. If you read through that,
you'll see that it's talking about havingthat it's not good to have multiple wives

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and these types of things. Soanything that's prescriptive, that's prescribing what you
should do or not do in scripture. In scripture says no, not good.
But the other stuff is just describingwhat's taking place, that there are
people that were doing that, butit describes all kinds of sins in scripture,
correct, correct, And was theaction of taking more than one wife

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influenced by the cultures around them?Sure? Many times that's why you're not
seeing a direct consequence. So you'renot seeing a consequence necessarily to it.
So you think, well, gosh, you know, maybe God is okaying.
I don't give any thumbs up,no difference, because God allows all
kinds of things, and the Fatheris very allowing because humans need to make

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their decisions. So if God wasconstantly coming down and stopping you from making
a decision, then no one wouldhave free will. And in that in
the case of people in scripture thatyou know, people will say, well
what about you know, mighty kings, what about Solomon? What about these
things? Well, if God saysthey're great, then how come they're doing

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things that aren't great. But that'sthe entirety of scripture. Moses was a
murderer, you remember, Moses murderedthe Egyptian and he looked left, he
looked right, and forgot to lookup, you know. And so there's
there's many times where you will findpeople who miss the mark in scripture that
are still referred to as great menand women. It's because they in overall,

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looking at them in comparison to otherhumans and to the will and want
of God, that their stand upto a certain standard. But they all
are sinners, and they all willmake mistakes, and some of them grievous
mistakes. So there if you lookthrough scripture and the men of renown and
those that people often quote as beingwonderful and great and everything, they all

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have problems. And that that thatgoes for even great kings with you know,
the the heart and mind of God. There are those that make many
mistakes. But polygamy is never inscripture condoned. It's allowed, just as
any other sin is allowed, butnot condoned. Very good. So I
hope that helps your drive this morning. It does, it does, Thank

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you very much. You're very welcome. There is nothing more beautiful to me
than when a couple takes the timeto spend and discuss these things. I
just I think it's fabulous. Itbuilds a wonderful relationship between two people to
engage in ideas and thoughts and wondering. And so I commend you in your
hus been for Karen for spending timein the car that most people could just

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be quiet or you know, beupset about how long it's taking to drive
wherever these types of things, andthen using it for something so productive and
wonderful. I think that's uh.I think that's pretty cool. Bob,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.Hey, how are you? Thank you
for taking I'm well, how canI help you? Well, I'm kind

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of in a dilemma. I'm anew Bible reader. And you know,
when you start, when you talkabout the Bible with people, everybody has
an opinion, of course, butI'm sure not everybody is right because there's
so many difference. So my questionis I started at Genesis, and my

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dilemma is this. I read thatAdam and Eve were presented with an opportunity
to make a decision and they failed, But the result of their decision was
told to them in advanced that theywould positively die. My question is were

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they do they did they have theprospect of going to heaven? Because if
that was presented to them, thepros you know that they would positively die.
Is that prospect to all men thatif you sin, you die?
Now, obviously we're sinners, soI guess we we all die. I

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guess just I want to know whattheir disposition is. Do they have the
opportunity to go to heaven? Ilove that you are thinking this way.
You've you've pointed out some really wonderfulthings to be thinking about from going through
Genesis. So I want to commendyou on that you're going down the right
the right path of how people shouldapproach scripture. Scripture says in Thessalonians to

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test all things and hold fast tothat which is true. And I love
that you're doing that. But let'slook a couple of things. What is
it you have to look at whatthe words mean? What does it mean
to surely die? Well, it'snot talking about a physical death. It
was talking about a spiritual death.So you're rightly curious to say, well,
does that mean that they're for suregoing to go to hell. Which

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is the spiritual death or what partdoes it play. There's nothing in scripture
that points to Adam and Eve specificallythat says Adam and Eve went to heaven
or paradise in their case. Nothing, But you have to look at it
in context and look at it thisway. Everyone that sins is going down

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the path of surely dying. Soimagine and you tie that with later in
scripture, the wages of sin arewhat yes, okay, so you know
that the wages of sin is death. God's saying here that Adam and Eve,
if they if they eat of thisfruit, will surely die. To
the same statement, those that sinwill die spiritually. The only thing is

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so imagine it more like a payment. Those that do this, in this
case, sin will have to paya million dollars. Let's make it simple.
We'll have to pay it a milliondollars. Will owe a million dollars,
So that payment will have to bemade, is what it's implying throughout
the entirety of scripture that payment isgoing to have to be made by someone.

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Now, a million dollars can bepaid by someone, but you have
to think of it in a waythat it couldn't be paid by any individual.
So all that says will surely dieis pointing to the fact that it
is the consequences or the judgment isdeath. So our Jewish brothers and sisters

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look towards. We're looking forward tothe Messiah. So imagine this way that
really the things that they did weremore like writing a check on a bank
account that will be filled one day, whereas modern day Christians are looking backwards
at an already filled bank account thatthey're tapping into by receiving Christ or not

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receiving Christ. Either they accept orreject me. So if you look at
it, all those pieces play apart. What our Jewish brothers and sisters
did to write that check was todo sacrifices, animal sacrifices, and those
burnt offerings and the like were pointingtowards the ultimate sacrifice which would pay for

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it, which was my death onthe cross. You're taking all of these
things into account, and you readGenesis three twenty one, and Genesis three
twenty one says, and the LordGod made for Adam and for his wife
garments of skin and clothe them.Many theologians believe that this was actually the

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first sacrifice, and that this sacrificethat is taking place there to make the
garments and to clothe them points tothe fact that they, Adam and Eve,
indeed were saved. And I saythat in air quotes to understand the
difference between somebody looking forward and writingthat check by way of animal sacrifice versus

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a Christian that is looking backwards towardsthe filled account that it was paid for
on the cross. So it's notthe it is the full justice, which
is the full justice. The wagesof sin are death, period. However,

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that's for everyone across the board.Yes, even Adam and Eve.
They will surely know death. Whatthat is to say is they will understand
they will have a debt that isdeath that can only be paid for by
death. But in this case thesinless lamb. So it's all everyone that

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has ever sinned, oh man,all of sin and fallen short of the
glory of God. The consequence ofthat is spiritual death. However, by
receiving the gift of grace, theblood on the cross, that debt can
be paid for. But that's afterthe crucifixion and the resurrection. So prior

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to that, all the Jewish believers, all of those that were people of
faith were looking forward towards the Messiah, Messiah, the Machikh, and therefore
they were writing the checks on thataccount, which is the sacrifice. Genesis
three twenty one applies the sacrifice bythe garments of skin. So that would

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imply to many theologians that in factAdam and Eve were saved by the grace
of God via the sacrifice. Alsothe relationship that God has with them afterwards,
although changes does not go away,does not become obsolete, and so
that points to that as well.So really the scripture is best when you're

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reading it, and I love theway you're parsing it and hearing those things,
and they stood out to you theyshould. But really, in the
fullness of scripture, they call itthe hermeneutics. Reading through and seeing the
harmony of scripture throughout the entirety ofscripture, not just one book or one
verse or something like that, you'llsee that that that overall theme is throughout

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the entirety of scripture, that thedebt is death, and the payment is
my life, my resurrected life,and that blood on the cross, and
that death that took place the perfectand sinless and spotless lamb, and the
combination of those things, although looka little different depending on what side of
the cross you're standing. If you'relooking towards it not happening yet, or

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looking back at it it's already happened. The actions are different, but they
have the same meaning. So that'swhere Adam and Eve fall in that story.
It wasn't that God the Father wassaying, you're you're going to surely
die and there's no way out ofit. It's saying that, yes,

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the wages of sin are death.That payment will have to be made,
and at this point, because thecross had not occurred, the payment will
be made by way of a burntoffering, an animal sacrifice, and that's
talked about in Genesis three twenty onekfix on demand