December 1, 2024 • 29 mins
The Bible used in movies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. The
concept of of pilfing from the Bible. The Bible is
a powerful book. It's over two thousand years old. It
was written in its entirety over a span of about
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fourteen hundred years around forty authors in three languages, on
three different continents, in times of peace and times of war,
by kings and peasants alike. It's a powerful book. It's
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a book, regardless of your religious beliefs, that people read
all the time just for the historical content. Archaeologists use
it every single day. It is one of the single
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most utilized books of antiquity used for archaeological study to
this day. And yes, Hollywood even takes bits and pieces
of it and uses it because it works and it's
good and it's interesting. But does that mean that they're
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going to give credit to scripture? Does that mean that
they're pointing towards the Gospel, the good news? No, because
even when there are films that are made about religion,
they usually have a spin on them, as if as
if someone in Hollywood could put a better spin on
scripture than God himself. So Hollywood and the Bible have
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an odd relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It is the breast from where everyone feeds, but yet
nobody gives credit. That's just the way it works. It's
like television and I Love Lucy. Watch an episode of
I Love Lucy if you haven't a long time, and
you'll go, oh, my goodness. Every single show that has
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been made since the time of I Love Lucy and
now is a direct ripoff of I Love Lucy. And
the Bible has been a source of creative inspiration for many,
and I think people are compelled to go towards and
to read and to consume scripture. But there are those
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that refuse to see it as the word of God,
but also still see the brilliance in it, and they
battle with that and it gets made into certain concepts
get placed into film, and every once in a while
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you'll go, oh, Just like there's common phrases in modern
speech that some know come from scripture and some don't.
Scapegoat some know come from scripture, some don't. Good Samaritan
some know comes from scripture, some don't. Prodigal Son again,
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over and over all these concepts, and they many of
them have been used in film. But that's really about
the state of humanity that humans like to pick and choose.
It's one of the scariest parts of about Christianity is
to see as in its entirety and as a whole,
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to consume it a lot of the modern type religions
or as they would claim, non religions, or really about
just taking what you want, and it's all about you
and how you're going to achieve happiness, and you're going
to achieve a level of christ consciousness, and it's all
about you and about the things you're going to receive.
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Scripture is not about that. Scriptures about God and why
you should have a relationship with God because it's righteous,
not because it's necessarily going to make things work out
even on Earth. It's about doing it because it's true
and it's right. And having Hollywood consume that is not
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always that as easy as it may sound. People want
to reject things. People love law enforcement when they come
to protect them. People hate law enforcement when they come
to correct them. And it's the same way with scripture.
People love it when it's on their side. People love
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it when it's something they're already doing and they could say,
see this proves it. But if it is used to
correct or to guide or to teach. Is when people
start to wrestle with it and say, oh, you know what,
that scripture it's too oppressive, you know what, so embraces
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but they're oppressive for a reason, to help guide back
the crooked teeth into their proper spacing and placement. Freedom
is a wonderful, wonderful thing. The abuse of freedom is
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the most ugly thing. And so the Bible will continue
to be a resource for writers and filmmakers who want
inspiration because the concepts in it are timeless and ever teaching,
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they're profound, and more importantly, they're true. But people don't
want to deal with religious things because oh, well, you know,
organized religion and all that, and so people run from
it and they take concepts because the Bible continues to
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be compelling, filled with what some may see as only
stories that others will see our life changing and inspiring
and educational towards how to use this body of yours
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like a love letter and an instruction manual all together
rolled up into one. But people will continue to quote
things and misquote them and even think that there's some
things that are in scripture that are not or that
they've heard something so that they believe it to be true,
and it goes on and on. That is the cycle
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of this fantastic book that has inspired many and continues
to do so for those that actually pick it up
and read it, not just in bits and parts, but
truly read it. Try to understand the chronology and what
took place when and why, and the history and who
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these people were and why they mean something to the church,
what they had to go through or what they did
to prepare stuate this book, these concepts, these ideas to
help people understand, to help people see the truth. Often
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people died just for proclaiming what is in this book
that's true. Sadly people still do today, not in the
United States at least not very often, but all over
the world people are persecuted for what's in this book. Hollywood,
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like everything else, will continue to come to it as
if it's a carcass for their picking, and there are
those that will do justice to it and those that
will not, and those that will steal and put it
in a film that has nothing to do with God.
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Because the truth is there and that it has a
good structure. But if you're not God sees all and
in the end, the Bible has the most power in
its entirety. Mark, Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Thanks for taking my calls. Jesus, would you please give
me some advice? I am I'm one of your servants,
and I do love you with all my heart. But
I must be honest and say that I've been having
a drug problem. And I know of your healing power
and I know of your power forgiveness, but I've been struggling.
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I feel so bad because I haven't been living up
to my true pretend to the question is, Jesus, what
can you tell a person like my or any others
to help them ready rid this problem and live out,
live out up up to my full potential.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, people do it, Mark, people do it all the time.
What particular drug is your fancy? Now, it's not the
time to lie.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Absolutely honesty, it's the best policy, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And how long have you been doing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Crack off and off for like seven years?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And have you ever tried to work a program or
go into a program that can help you? And what happens?
What's your downfall?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Basically not being able to find a companion and just a.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Weakness on my on my beir you say not being
able to find a companion now is not the time
for a companion. You're trying to you're trying to polish
yourself and remove this from your life so that your
companion worthy. You don't need somebody a companion for that.
As matter of fact, I would scrape all of that
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off of your life and focus solely on this concern,
and that is that this is something you invited into
your life and you continue to invite in your life.
And now there's you know, addiction is involved in it,
and that's going to take medical help as well. But
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you have to take it incredibly serious and you have to,
you know, jump into it completely and wholeheartedly to make
it happen. It's not about forgiveness. There's nothing to be
forgiven for yet because you're you're there's no repentance. You're
not having it removed from your life in any way,
shape or form. You're continuing doing it and you can
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beat yourself up over doing it, or you can get
real help that removes you from the process. It's not
about companionship, it's not about any of those things. Something
drove you to this particular drug that's highly addictive and
you continue to use it every day, and the key
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is to not use it every day. That's the simple truth.
Find new ways, whatever they may be, each and every
day mark to not use That's what you have to do.
And you're going to need help in doing that because
doing it alone is going to be too large of
a task. Diane, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi,
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Hi Diane, How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm dealing with true Just don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How long ago was this?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
What if psternal souls.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
With your father?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You have to trust that God has a way of
working through these things and that it's not for you
to necessarily know. But you should have peace that God
works all things out to his glory.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh, I didn't take my business?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Do you know why your son took himself?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Why wasn't shoud me your spirit or the holy inspirits
there deal with? If you think what day it is?
Most of the time that you remember when I hate
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the last My own wife is fractured.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But how do you think that that honors your son
by not eating or not knowing what day it is?
How does that honor his life? Yeah, it seems like
you're giving reverence to his death. But not to his life.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I just miss him so much.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Of course you do.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
He was such a good boy, who was such a
good person. He along to everybody. He didn't have any friends.
He only had adopted brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Did he leave a note? Did he leave a note?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
No? No, no, no letter, no email, nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So that that makes it that much more difficult to
not know as to why he did what he did.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I know he was planning it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How do you know that?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Because he would go on hikes with his brother and
they would find he would stop at places and kind
of look around and he'd say like, no, not here,
not there, and then he would find a place. Then
he would have a place that he decided to hang himself.
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And that's where he finally stopped winning on hikes with
his French and his brothers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So he would talk about where he would hang himself
when he would go on hikes.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
No, he didn't say I'm gonna hang myself, but it
was like not here, not here, not there, not no,
let's let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Did he have mental problems?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I don't. You know, it's hard. It's hard to say
because he was thirty, so I couldn't like and have
him go see a counselor or the hospitalized or put
on some kind of medication, or he was too old.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I see, but did you see any signs of it?
As a mother, I know, it's kind of difficult.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, hindsight being twenty twenty, I would say, yeah,
but I.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But no one knows why with no note, nothing left behind,
no one really knows why he did what he did.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, I you know, I don't have any cruise about
why he actually did what he did. And now he's gone,
and I can't even, you know, slap him because I'm
so mad at him for doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh, I'm sure, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And I just I can see now, you know. I
would do things like say he would sleep all day.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And I which is usually a sign of depression.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, And I would say, and I would come home
and I would or leave for work, and I would say,
if you can be up in the morning or up
in the afternoon when I get home from work, I'll
take you down and get your license. So I'll take
you down and get the registration for your car. Or
I'll take you down and we can get insurance. And
he keeps saying no, Mom, No, Mom, because she did
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want me to spend the money on things that he
wasn't gonna use. And I see that now.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Is there any drinking or drug use in the house
by you or anyone else?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No, A little drinking maybe, but no drudge. And he
didn't drink at.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you do, I do a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know, I haven't talked every time before you admit?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Has that progressed it all afterwards?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay? Well, the pain of losing someone in so called
normal circumstances is bad enough. When you come across the
situation where someone takes their life and they especially don't
leave any sort of closure. People make the mistake of
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thinking that committing suicide ends the pain, and it doesn't.
It passes it on to your loved ones and those
that are still living, and so you are the recipient
of that. But you can choose. You can choose you
are alive, Diana, and you can choose to remember the
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loving person that he was and the things that he did,
or you can focus in on his death and the
ugly way that he died, and that can haunt you
and that can rule your life and the things that
you do obviously it is now. If it's keeping you
from eating and you don't know what day it is,
and it's, you know, the Sunday after Thanksgiving, it's a
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fairly easy one to remember. Do with me, to realize
you can't live this way and that doesn't do anything
to honor his life. It puts all of that on hold.
It's like you've packed away his entire life, only focusing
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on his death, and that's all anyone will know or
experience of him. And then sooner or later people don't
want to come around you or want to spend time
with you, because as much as they would like to
talk maybe about him, they certainly won't don't want to
focus in on the death. Okay, he lived for thirty years,
that has nothing to do with his death. And to
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wrap that up in one ball as one ugly exit
is not healthy for you and really adds nothing to him.
And you're his mom. You're the one that can teach
people about the way he laughed or the things that
he did do that we're loving and kind and human.
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And if all you, as the now curator of his museum,
if you're only focusing on the death, that's all anybody's
going to know. And that's all anybody's going to see
on your face.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And it's not that you shouldn't mourn, you should, but
there's a time for morning, Scripture says, and there's a
time for joy. And if you stay in this state
of mourning, all you're going to do is augur yourself.
You're going to spin out of control. And people are
going to her being around you and trying to connect
with you. And I don't think that this would be
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the goal of your son, do you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No, he was You would if you know him at all.
He's had a good, kind, general loving spirit. He loved
everybody he had. Like I tell people when I talked
about him, he had no friends. She only had brothers
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and sisters.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And did he get along with his brothers and sisters?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Not his real brothers and sisters, but the one she
adopted His brothers and sisters, his biological brothers and sisters
very basically abandoned him and didn't do anything for him
or to help him.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Why do you think that's the case?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Because I know I was there.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, But why do you think they would do such
a thing?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh? They thought he was a he wouldn't get a
job in me, so they berated him all the time.
They never invited him for a dinner or stay over,
never sent him a birthday car or a Christmas card,
So he.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Was ostracized quite a bit from the family, kind of set.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Apart and me, he and I. They would go off
for some big family dinner or something, and he I
wouldn't be invited. It would be just him and I together.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Why do you think they treated you that way?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I because my youngest daughter has hated me from day
she was born.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well that's odd. Yeah, no, no, I mean that's odd.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That's for everything in her life. She lost three babies,
that was my fault. She couldn't go to school when
she turned five because there's no midterm. That was my fault.
She anything that happened bad to her was my fault.
Always met She hate me.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Where was dad in all of this?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Uh? Kind of around but divorced.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
M And why did you guys divorce?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I didn't want to live like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And what was living like that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
With somebody who was cold or unemotional and involved with
my kids? Controlling?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Why did you choose someone like that to be their parent.
Why would you choose someone like that to be your
partner and their parent.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I didn't know that he would be turned out to
be that way. When I first married him, he wasn't
that way, but he turned out to be his mother.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I see. Well, it sounds like there's a lot more
to this on as far as family dynamics. Sounds like
there's kind of a mess there, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh yeah, stepmother, Matthew's death at her at her feet?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Why would you do such a thing?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
She beat him, she made him into when she was
he was there, she made him into like a little
slave out there reading her vegetable patch and put him
in the basement.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now, why why would she spend time there? How come
he wasn't with you?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh, I mean on an alternate weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, there's there's there's something, Diane, There's something here that's
outside of the scope of the time that we have,
that's for sure. But there's a lot of a lot
of knots in that rope. And there's so much more
than just the pain that he was going through and
the pain that you're going through. And there's a lot
of pain obviously with passing, but there's other pain there too.
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There are remnants of other things that I'm not sure
about unless we talk for more, and unfortunately we don't
have that kind of time. But I would suggest that
you find someone that does that. You find a professional
that can listen, a pastor if you have a church,
a priest, or someone that you can talk to, because
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there is a lot that went into that particular death
and all the surrounding things with you. And I'm sorry
that you're in pain, and I'm sorry for your loss,
and you need to trust that God. God has dealt
with that, but you need to focus on finding your
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life and your voice again without him here, so that
you can move on, because there's no glory or no
gain by being in that state of sadness to a
point where you're ruining yourself. And I'm concerned about the drinking, honestly,
and I would look into those things and see what
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are the demons that you need to deal with yourself. John,
Welcome to Jesus CHRISTO.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yes, I was wondering about the after life.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay life, well that would be this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Life before life? Oh after life is this life?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well? No, after life would be after this life oh,
after this, see how that works? After life? That would
be after this physical life?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh? I see there is no before this physical life.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
No, there's some that believe that in the Christian traditional
Christian theology. No, not in that sense. The Plato postulated
that there was pre souls and pre incarnate souls and
things like that, but most Christians don't believe.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
How about did you think there was an afterlife?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Why would you ask, sir?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I read it in a book.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You read it in a book? In which book was that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let me see? I got right here. It's called The
Pleasures of Philosophy by William Durant.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh, I see. Well. As far as the comparisons between
Plato and Socrates, there are similarities, as there are with
all teachers and students, but there are differences as well.
So is your curiosity just philosophical or is it theological?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
A little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Does this pertain to you directly? Are you concerned that
there won't be an afterlife for you?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I'm not really concerned for myself. I don't really know.
I'm an agnostic. I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, do you think that there's a way to know
it all? Or do you think it's just empty faith.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well I did say it was empty faith? Is faith empty?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well? It depends who you ask, really, Okay, But as
far as you're from your own standpoint, do you think
that it's something that can be known or you just
won't know until you're there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know how you could know unless you have experience.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Oh so you can only know things through your own.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Experience, well experience talents.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Of course it does. But you can't experience everything yet.
There are many things that you know that you take
based on faith that someone else experienced them.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Well, I have I have an accident, Like one equals one.
I believe that's kind of true.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yes, one does indeed equal one, Okay, I might my point,
My point being that there are lots of things that
you will come to learn or come to understand in
life that aren't from your own experiences but from other
people's experiences. And and that's a good thing as well.
It kind of goes hands in hand in hand. Theref
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on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. The
concept of of pilfing from the Bible. The Bible is
a powerful book. It's over two thousand years old. It
was written in its entirety over a span of about
(00:24):
fourteen hundred years around forty authors in three languages, on
three different continents, in times of peace and times of war,
by kings and peasants alike. It's a powerful book. It's
(00:50):
a book, regardless of your religious beliefs, that people read
all the time just for the historical content. Archaeologists use
it every single day. It is one of the single
(01:11):
most utilized books of antiquity used for archaeological study to
this day. And yes, Hollywood even takes bits and pieces
of it and uses it because it works and it's
good and it's interesting. But does that mean that they're
(01:37):
going to give credit to scripture? Does that mean that
they're pointing towards the Gospel, the good news? No, because
even when there are films that are made about religion,
they usually have a spin on them, as if as
if someone in Hollywood could put a better spin on
scripture than God himself. So Hollywood and the Bible have
(02:03):
an odd relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It is the breast from where everyone feeds, but yet
nobody gives credit. That's just the way it works. It's
like television and I Love Lucy. Watch an episode of
I Love Lucy if you haven't a long time, and
you'll go, oh, my goodness. Every single show that has
(02:33):
been made since the time of I Love Lucy and
now is a direct ripoff of I Love Lucy. And
the Bible has been a source of creative inspiration for many,
and I think people are compelled to go towards and
to read and to consume scripture. But there are those
(02:55):
that refuse to see it as the word of God,
but also still see the brilliance in it, and they
battle with that and it gets made into certain concepts
get placed into film, and every once in a while
(03:15):
you'll go, oh, Just like there's common phrases in modern
speech that some know come from scripture and some don't.
Scapegoat some know come from scripture, some don't. Good Samaritan
some know comes from scripture, some don't. Prodigal Son again,
(03:41):
over and over all these concepts, and they many of
them have been used in film. But that's really about
the state of humanity that humans like to pick and choose.
It's one of the scariest parts of about Christianity is
to see as in its entirety and as a whole,
(04:02):
to consume it a lot of the modern type religions
or as they would claim, non religions, or really about
just taking what you want, and it's all about you
and how you're going to achieve happiness, and you're going
to achieve a level of christ consciousness, and it's all
about you and about the things you're going to receive.
(04:25):
Scripture is not about that. Scriptures about God and why
you should have a relationship with God because it's righteous,
not because it's necessarily going to make things work out
even on Earth. It's about doing it because it's true
and it's right. And having Hollywood consume that is not
(04:49):
always that as easy as it may sound. People want
to reject things. People love law enforcement when they come
to protect them. People hate law enforcement when they come
to correct them. And it's the same way with scripture.
People love it when it's on their side. People love
(05:10):
it when it's something they're already doing and they could say,
see this proves it. But if it is used to
correct or to guide or to teach. Is when people
start to wrestle with it and say, oh, you know what,
that scripture it's too oppressive, you know what, so embraces
(05:36):
but they're oppressive for a reason, to help guide back
the crooked teeth into their proper spacing and placement. Freedom
is a wonderful, wonderful thing. The abuse of freedom is
(05:56):
the most ugly thing. And so the Bible will continue
to be a resource for writers and filmmakers who want
inspiration because the concepts in it are timeless and ever teaching,
(06:21):
they're profound, and more importantly, they're true. But people don't
want to deal with religious things because oh, well, you know,
organized religion and all that, and so people run from
it and they take concepts because the Bible continues to
(06:41):
be compelling, filled with what some may see as only
stories that others will see our life changing and inspiring
and educational towards how to use this body of yours
(07:04):
like a love letter and an instruction manual all together
rolled up into one. But people will continue to quote
things and misquote them and even think that there's some
things that are in scripture that are not or that
they've heard something so that they believe it to be true,
and it goes on and on. That is the cycle
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of this fantastic book that has inspired many and continues
to do so for those that actually pick it up
and read it, not just in bits and parts, but
truly read it. Try to understand the chronology and what
took place when and why, and the history and who
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these people were and why they mean something to the church,
what they had to go through or what they did
to prepare stuate this book, these concepts, these ideas to
help people understand, to help people see the truth. Often
(08:15):
people died just for proclaiming what is in this book
that's true. Sadly people still do today, not in the
United States at least not very often, but all over
the world people are persecuted for what's in this book. Hollywood,
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like everything else, will continue to come to it as
if it's a carcass for their picking, and there are
those that will do justice to it and those that
will not, and those that will steal and put it
in a film that has nothing to do with God.
(09:02):
Because the truth is there and that it has a
good structure. But if you're not God sees all and
in the end, the Bible has the most power in
its entirety. Mark, Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Thanks for taking my calls. Jesus, would you please give
me some advice? I am I'm one of your servants,
and I do love you with all my heart. But
I must be honest and say that I've been having
a drug problem. And I know of your healing power
and I know of your power forgiveness, but I've been struggling.
(09:49):
I feel so bad because I haven't been living up
to my true pretend to the question is, Jesus, what
can you tell a person like my or any others
to help them ready rid this problem and live out,
live out up up to my full potential.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, people do it, Mark, people do it all the time.
What particular drug is your fancy? Now, it's not the
time to lie.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Absolutely honesty, it's the best policy, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And how long have you been doing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Crack off and off for like seven years?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And have you ever tried to work a program or
go into a program that can help you? And what happens?
What's your downfall?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Basically not being able to find a companion and just a.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Weakness on my on my beir you say not being
able to find a companion now is not the time
for a companion. You're trying to you're trying to polish
yourself and remove this from your life so that your
companion worthy. You don't need somebody a companion for that.
As matter of fact, I would scrape all of that
(11:24):
off of your life and focus solely on this concern,
and that is that this is something you invited into
your life and you continue to invite in your life.
And now there's you know, addiction is involved in it,
and that's going to take medical help as well. But
(11:45):
you have to take it incredibly serious and you have to,
you know, jump into it completely and wholeheartedly to make
it happen. It's not about forgiveness. There's nothing to be
forgiven for yet because you're you're there's no repentance. You're
not having it removed from your life in any way,
shape or form. You're continuing doing it and you can
(12:08):
beat yourself up over doing it, or you can get
real help that removes you from the process. It's not
about companionship, it's not about any of those things. Something
drove you to this particular drug that's highly addictive and
you continue to use it every day, and the key
(12:28):
is to not use it every day. That's the simple truth.
Find new ways, whatever they may be, each and every
day mark to not use That's what you have to do.
And you're going to need help in doing that because
doing it alone is going to be too large of
a task. Diane, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi,
(12:56):
Hi Diane, How can I help you?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm dealing with true Just don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How long ago was this?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
What if psternal souls.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
With your father?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You have to trust that God has a way of
working through these things and that it's not for you
to necessarily know. But you should have peace that God
works all things out to his glory.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh, I didn't take my business?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Do you know why your son took himself?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Why wasn't shoud me your spirit or the holy inspirits
there deal with? If you think what day it is?
Most of the time that you remember when I hate
(14:04):
the last My own wife is fractured.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But how do you think that that honors your son
by not eating or not knowing what day it is?
How does that honor his life? Yeah, it seems like
you're giving reverence to his death. But not to his life.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I just miss him so much.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Of course you do.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
He was such a good boy, who was such a
good person. He along to everybody. He didn't have any friends.
He only had adopted brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Did he leave a note? Did he leave a note?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
No? No, no, no letter, no email, nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So that that makes it that much more difficult to
not know as to why he did what he did.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I know he was planning it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How do you know that?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Because he would go on hikes with his brother and
they would find he would stop at places and kind
of look around and he'd say like, no, not here,
not there, and then he would find a place. Then
he would have a place that he decided to hang himself.
(15:32):
And that's where he finally stopped winning on hikes with
his French and his brothers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So he would talk about where he would hang himself
when he would go on hikes.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
No, he didn't say I'm gonna hang myself, but it
was like not here, not here, not there, not no,
let's let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Did he have mental problems?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I don't. You know, it's hard. It's hard to say
because he was thirty, so I couldn't like and have
him go see a counselor or the hospitalized or put
on some kind of medication, or he was too old.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I see, but did you see any signs of it?
As a mother, I know, it's kind of difficult.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, hindsight being twenty twenty, I would say, yeah,
but I.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But no one knows why with no note, nothing left behind,
no one really knows why he did what he did.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, I you know, I don't have any cruise about
why he actually did what he did. And now he's gone,
and I can't even, you know, slap him because I'm
so mad at him for doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh, I'm sure, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And I just I can see now, you know. I
would do things like say he would sleep all day.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And I which is usually a sign of depression.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, And I would say, and I would come home
and I would or leave for work, and I would say,
if you can be up in the morning or up
in the afternoon when I get home from work, I'll
take you down and get your license. So I'll take
you down and get the registration for your car. Or
I'll take you down and we can get insurance. And
he keeps saying no, Mom, No, Mom, because she did
(17:45):
want me to spend the money on things that he
wasn't gonna use. And I see that now.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Is there any drinking or drug use in the house
by you or anyone else?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No, A little drinking maybe, but no drudge. And he
didn't drink at.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you do, I do a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know, I haven't talked every time before you admit?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Has that progressed it all afterwards?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay? Well, the pain of losing someone in so called
normal circumstances is bad enough. When you come across the
situation where someone takes their life and they especially don't
leave any sort of closure. People make the mistake of
(18:37):
thinking that committing suicide ends the pain, and it doesn't.
It passes it on to your loved ones and those
that are still living, and so you are the recipient
of that. But you can choose. You can choose you
are alive, Diana, and you can choose to remember the
(18:57):
loving person that he was and the things that he did,
or you can focus in on his death and the
ugly way that he died, and that can haunt you
and that can rule your life and the things that
you do obviously it is now. If it's keeping you
from eating and you don't know what day it is,
and it's, you know, the Sunday after Thanksgiving, it's a
(19:19):
fairly easy one to remember. Do with me, to realize
you can't live this way and that doesn't do anything
to honor his life. It puts all of that on hold.
It's like you've packed away his entire life, only focusing
(19:41):
on his death, and that's all anyone will know or
experience of him. And then sooner or later people don't
want to come around you or want to spend time
with you, because as much as they would like to
talk maybe about him, they certainly won't don't want to
focus in on the death. Okay, he lived for thirty years,
that has nothing to do with his death. And to
(20:06):
wrap that up in one ball as one ugly exit
is not healthy for you and really adds nothing to him.
And you're his mom. You're the one that can teach
people about the way he laughed or the things that
he did do that we're loving and kind and human.
(20:31):
And if all you, as the now curator of his museum,
if you're only focusing on the death, that's all anybody's
going to know. And that's all anybody's going to see
on your face.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And it's not that you shouldn't mourn, you should, but
there's a time for morning, Scripture says, and there's a
time for joy. And if you stay in this state
of mourning, all you're going to do is augur yourself.
You're going to spin out of control. And people are
going to her being around you and trying to connect
with you. And I don't think that this would be
(21:07):
the goal of your son, do you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No, he was You would if you know him at all.
He's had a good, kind, general loving spirit. He loved
everybody he had. Like I tell people when I talked
about him, he had no friends. She only had brothers
(21:31):
and sisters.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And did he get along with his brothers and sisters?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Not his real brothers and sisters, but the one she
adopted His brothers and sisters, his biological brothers and sisters
very basically abandoned him and didn't do anything for him
or to help him.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Why do you think that's the case?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Because I know I was there.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, But why do you think they would do such
a thing?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh? They thought he was a he wouldn't get a
job in me, so they berated him all the time.
They never invited him for a dinner or stay over,
never sent him a birthday car or a Christmas card,
So he.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Was ostracized quite a bit from the family, kind of set.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Apart and me, he and I. They would go off
for some big family dinner or something, and he I
wouldn't be invited. It would be just him and I together.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Why do you think they treated you that way?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I because my youngest daughter has hated me from day
she was born.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well that's odd. Yeah, no, no, I mean that's odd.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That's for everything in her life. She lost three babies,
that was my fault. She couldn't go to school when
she turned five because there's no midterm. That was my fault.
She anything that happened bad to her was my fault.
Always met She hate me.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Where was dad in all of this?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Uh? Kind of around but divorced.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
M And why did you guys divorce?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I didn't want to live like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And what was living like that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
With somebody who was cold or unemotional and involved with
my kids? Controlling?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Why did you choose someone like that to be their parent.
Why would you choose someone like that to be your
partner and their parent.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I didn't know that he would be turned out to
be that way. When I first married him, he wasn't
that way, but he turned out to be his mother.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I see. Well, it sounds like there's a lot more
to this on as far as family dynamics. Sounds like
there's kind of a mess there, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh yeah, stepmother, Matthew's death at her at her feet?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Why would you do such a thing?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
She beat him, she made him into when she was
he was there, she made him into like a little
slave out there reading her vegetable patch and put him
in the basement.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now, why why would she spend time there? How come
he wasn't with you?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh, I mean on an alternate weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, there's there's there's something, Diane, There's something here that's
outside of the scope of the time that we have,
that's for sure. But there's a lot of a lot
of knots in that rope. And there's so much more
than just the pain that he was going through and
the pain that you're going through. And there's a lot
of pain obviously with passing, but there's other pain there too.
(25:02):
There are remnants of other things that I'm not sure
about unless we talk for more, and unfortunately we don't
have that kind of time. But I would suggest that
you find someone that does that. You find a professional
that can listen, a pastor if you have a church,
a priest, or someone that you can talk to, because
(25:23):
there is a lot that went into that particular death
and all the surrounding things with you. And I'm sorry
that you're in pain, and I'm sorry for your loss,
and you need to trust that God. God has dealt
with that, but you need to focus on finding your
(25:44):
life and your voice again without him here, so that
you can move on, because there's no glory or no
gain by being in that state of sadness to a
point where you're ruining yourself. And I'm concerned about the drinking, honestly,
and I would look into those things and see what
(26:05):
are the demons that you need to deal with yourself. John,
Welcome to Jesus CHRISTO.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yes, I was wondering about the after life.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay life, well that would be this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Life before life? Oh after life is this life?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well? No, after life would be after this life oh,
after this, see how that works? After life? That would
be after this physical life?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh? I see there is no before this physical life.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
No, there's some that believe that in the Christian traditional
Christian theology. No, not in that sense. The Plato postulated
that there was pre souls and pre incarnate souls and
things like that, but most Christians don't believe.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
How about did you think there was an afterlife?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Why would you ask, sir?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I read it in a book.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You read it in a book? In which book was that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let me see? I got right here. It's called The
Pleasures of Philosophy by William Durant.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh, I see. Well. As far as the comparisons between
Plato and Socrates, there are similarities, as there are with
all teachers and students, but there are differences as well.
So is your curiosity just philosophical or is it theological?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
A little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Does this pertain to you directly? Are you concerned that
there won't be an afterlife for you?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, I'm not really concerned for myself. I don't really know.
I'm an agnostic. I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, do you think that there's a way to know
it all? Or do you think it's just empty faith.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well I did say it was empty faith? Is faith empty?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well? It depends who you ask, really, Okay, But as
far as you're from your own standpoint, do you think
that it's something that can be known or you just
won't know until you're there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know how you could know unless you have experience.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Oh so you can only know things through your own.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Experience, well experience talents.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Of course it does. But you can't experience everything yet.
There are many things that you know that you take
based on faith that someone else experienced them.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Well, I have I have an accident, Like one equals one.
I believe that's kind of true.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yes, one does indeed equal one, Okay, I might my point,
My point being that there are lots of things that
you will come to learn or come to understand in
life that aren't from your own experiences but from other
people's experiences. And and that's a good thing as well.
It kind of goes hands in hand in hand. Theref
(28:58):
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