November 12, 2025 • 30 mins
Happy birthday to the Marine Corps – yesterday! Michigan Man Merrill honors Veterans Day today. On a domestic veterans’ flight today, honoring those who served in WWII and the Korean and Vietnam wars, the veterans got a special shoutout from Barack Obama. A man in his 30s stripped off and started roaming around naked in Studio City. He knocked down a 79-year-old Vietnam veteran named George Karkoc after breaking into his house, breaking both the vet’s legs, but he fought back, shooting the trespasser in self-defense. There’s a new proposal that suggests splitting the state of California into two separate states. SNAP benefits are on again, off again, leaving many hungry families in limbo. The Supreme Court has extended an order blocking full funding of food stamp benefits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to k if I am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Evening Chris Merrill, okay, if I am six forty more
stimulating talk.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Good to see everyone, It's good. Good round up here tonight.
We got Ali, we got Nicky. Ronner survived, big night
for Ronner. Why what's going on? What happened? I know
you had the big doctor's appointment today. Well let's that
was touch and go for a while. Well more touch
than go. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Actually, look, I'm glad you do. Okay, I'm glad you
got through that. You know, I'm glad. I'm glad you
brought your own vaseline this time.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
No, both his hands weren't on my shoulders. Let's just
get that one out of the way right now.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okayh wow, boy, it's like golf course jokes tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wow, I know, I know it's terrible. Oh good night.
Well that's that's traumatizing. You've you've been through this? Yeah yeah,
went back for more.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Paid extra yeah see, and that had an appointment on Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
By the time I left, I had another one schedule
for Monday. Why not?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So good times, good times by everyone. Thank you so
much for being a part of it k if I
am six forty IM Chris Merrily. You can listen any
time I demand on the iHeart Radio app. Happy Veterans
Day to everyone. Yesterday was a Marine Corps birthday two
hundred and fifty years Happy Birthday, Marine Corps. My son
graduated from boot camp. I think it's been like ten
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years now, and he did a couple of years in
the reserves.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was nice. We lived in San Diego at the time,
so we got to go to the graduation. That was great.
I love that being at the.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
The what they call that the intake depot there, you know,
the new recruitment depot whatever. That was neat being on site.
You don't get to go there very often unless you're
you know, in the military. But they led schlubs like us,
and to watch the graduations. It was great to be
there for him. I was I was tearing up, to
say the least. I was so proud he was able
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to do that. So my son, he said to me, God,
I think it was the year he graduated from from
boot camp.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Then he did. He did training at Pendleton and and
he he said to me, on November tenth, one year
he goes Happy Birthday he said, yeah, I think you
got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't think you know what my birthday is. He says, no, no,
it's a Marine court birthday. Oh okay, yeah, happy birthday.
So I put it in my calendar so every year
I remember. Of course it's in the news all the
time too, but I always make sure I've got a
reminder that to say happy birthday, because I know it's
it's an important date.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
February tenth. Excuse me, I February nice.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Try November tenth also an historical time for those of
us that grew up in the Upper Midwest, because it
is the anniversary of the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald,
which I was very upset to find out how few
people knew about the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald. I
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was asking people around my office. I said, if I
were to say to you, Edmund Fitzgerald, what do you know, Well,
everybody knows the song? Well, you know that's the things
I work with a lot of gen zs, and they don't.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
They don't really he doesn't love a sea shanty? Come on,
it is indeed a sea shanty. I love that song.
Everybody does. You have to?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I went to Whitefish Point over Labor Day weekend
and I went up to the Shipwreck Museum. It's a
third time I've been to Whitefish Point and been to
the Shipwreck Museum one twice. And what I found about
the shipwreck Museum, which is interesting now, Edmund Fitzgerald sank
about fifteen miles seventeen miles or so off of Whitefish Point,
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which is in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and so
that's kind of the final resting place, the grave for
those sailors. And when you go to the Shipwreck Museum,
now it's more than just the Edmun Fitzgerald's. It's about
all the different Great Lakes shipwrecks. And it's a really
fascinating place. And I'm gonna get I'm gonna turn into
old man, geeky guy here, but you know, they go
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through and they tell you about all the different shipwrecks
going all the way back into the you know, sixteen
hundreds and things like that, the wooden ships and all
these others that sank and lives and many many lives lost.
Over six thousand ships sank in the Great Lakes. So
when you go in there, though, they're playing the Gordon
Lightfoot Record. They've mentioned Stererald on Loop and I'm one
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of those guys that likes to read every placard, right,
I'm so annoyed. My wife hates it, but she's also
she's also very kind, and so she'll see a placard
still go I shouldn't tell you this.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
There's a sign over there. You can go read it.
I'll go over here and do something else, thank you, honey.
And I run right over and I read it all
and I just love it to death.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So they play this song on Loop and about the
fifth time you hear it in a row while you're
wandering through that museum, which is a very strange solemn.
It's almost like you're in the like you're walking into
a funeral home. It's very quiet, it's got a kind
of dim life, and all the artifacts are lit really well.
But as you as you walk around, you just hear
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this haunting sea shanty, as Mark put it over and
over and over.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Again and again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
By about the fifth time, you're going, okay, you know what,
this song is starting to burn me out here. It's
a it's I've heard the song before, okay, But then
I think about.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
The employees that are there every single day. They have
to be pushed at the brink of sanity.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Gosh, oh, I wonder how many of them just get
out of work and just walk right into the lake
just you know what.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's it. I'm just walking into the lake, just joining
everyone else right out they go.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Make it stop. Yeah, you would think so. But also
in that part of the Upper peninsul I mean, it
is a long way from anything. You're you're you're driving
miles along the shoreline. It's a beautiful drive, but there
is nothing there. I mean nothing. You're twenty miles from
the nearest quote unquote city, which is like a bar,
a church, and a gas station. It's called Paradise, Michigan,
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and it is paradise. If you want to be away
from everyone else and be off the grid, that's where
you want to go.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's It's God's country for sure. But God, there's just
there aren't. There aren't many jobs. So if you if
you live up there and you get the job, I
guess you deal with it. So anyway, Uh, fifty years
the recor of the ofed In Fitzgerald, people that were
following my Instagram probably thought I was insane. I just
kept posting over and over and over again, all these
different memes about the the the fits, and it was
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part of our history. When I was growing up. We
did you know, hey, did you guys have like a
California history classes?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, you did.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is unbelievable. It was an anatomy
of Koalas or something. So, uh yeah, no we did.
So you got like California history. Well, we have Michigan
history classes, of course, and that's where I grew up,
and that was a that was a pretty big deal
in the Michigan history class was the record the Aedmin Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So the nice.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thing about it was you had the cheat sheet that
was the Gordon Lightfoot song, so you kind of knew
how many souls were lost, and you know what month
it was in what happened kind of in nor'easter, the
Dales of November, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So that was happening today.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As I mentioned, Veterans Day and kind of a neat
deal too. There was there was one of those one
of those flights, you know, the veteran flights, but they
had a surprise visitor this time around.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
ABC News had it.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
This honor flight is to honor all the veterans of
World War II, Korea, Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's all free for them.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We show them all.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Their monuments and explain what their monuments are about. We
just try to treat them with dignity that some of
them didn't get when they.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Came home from the war.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, especially the Vietnam vetes. I got a story about
one of those guys here in a.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Minute, Hello everybody, what what as we approached veterans that
I wanted to stop buy and just say thank you
for extraordinary service to you, your family, The sacrifices that
all of you made to protect our country as something
that will always be honored.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's pretty cool. You're on the flight and all of
a sudden the former president walks on give some well wishes.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So he give these war heroes a surprise and a
bit of a salute.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Thought that was pretty classy.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So the honor flight was from Madison, Wisconsin to DC
and they.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Were there for today. So that's great.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Like I mentioned, I have a story about a Vietnam vet.
Here's what I know about Vietnam vets. Don't mess with them.
Don't mess with Vietnam Vets. It doesn't matter how old
they are, it doesn't matter what their physical condition is.
Vietnam Vets will take you down if they have to.
It is one of the most badass generations of soldiers
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who never got their due and never got their the
recognition right because of all the controversy around the war itself.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Story about a seventy nine year old.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Vietnam Vet who got the best of another one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's next. I'm Chris Meryl.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You're listening to kfi A six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Chris Merrill.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
If I am six forty more stimulating talk and listen
anytime on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Mark wanted
to hear more of the the Would you call it
a sea shanty?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are you gonna say.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Gives up? You've done this in karaoke, haven't you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was thinking, I really should I think you can
do a good Gordon Lightfoot, I should have been, I
should have been, should have been a singer. I'm really good? Yeah, yeah,
really good. If you say so yourself, you just heard it.
I mean that's no, it's not bad. I bet you
could do a decent Neil diamond too.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, little cracklin Rosie. You know
what I love Gordon Lightfoot, I love and I was saying, oh,
care free highway barf uh Sundown. Oh I love sundown,
Crank sundown. One of these days I'm gonna be that.
I'm gonna be that guy who's having a total midlife
crisis in a very expensive sports car, top down, cranking sundown.
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Gordon Lightfoot, love it, love it. I told you about
the Vietnam veteran. Do not mess with Vietnam vets.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Don't mess with him.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Unfortunately, there seemed to be a guy that was having
a bit of a mental break and you probably heard
the story last year.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It was a guy stripped down and naked.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's thirty in his thirties, parked his car, stripped naked
and started roaming around the neighborhood studio City, and then
he rushed this Vietnam vet, knocked the guy down, broke
his legs. This is the Vietnam vet, seventy nine years old.
This naked guy who's having this this mental breakdown, knocked
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the vet down and broke both of his legs in
the process. So he's got pins in his legs, now
his ankles and his hips. And it was still the
vet that got the best of him. He was talking with.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Fox.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think it was Fox eleven. Ah, no cbslas use
meant to make sure I get the right credit.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
It wasn't the wake up the Studio City community expected.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
On Friday.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
A naked man screaming, pulling up signs.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
He dashed from the sidewalk in front of the house
and through her door in like a flash.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
And then breaking into a home.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I said, I gotta get a gun. I don't
have a chance against this guy.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
George Carcos owns the property.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
The burglar broke into.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
His tenant started screaming and he came running armed, told him.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
That we had contacted the police they were coming, and
asked him politely to please leave, Please leave.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
But from his hospital bed, he described what happened next
that made him shoot and kill the intruder.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
He jumped on top of me and wrapped his arms
and legs around me. He weighed over two hundred pounds.
I'm not strong enough to support that, and I just
collapsed straight down with his.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Right arm pen behind his back. He grabbed the gun
with his left and fired.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I wasn't thinking about on my shelf. I was thinking
about taking care of the problem.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And George was doing what he needed to do to
protect his property and the people that he loved.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's what kind of man he is. Just integrity.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Although frightened, his wife, Lily says, he did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, well, he did the right thing. This clear cut
self defense. And this guy, obviously he's having this mental break,
but so the right arm is pinned, his legs are broken.
He's got this guy over two hundred pounds lying on
top of him. The man is seventy nine years old.
Oh and he also is suffering from late stage Parkinson's
disease and still took out the intruder.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Do not mess with Vietnam Vets. Don't do it. I'm
growing up, had a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Of Vietnam Vets in my hometown, and man, they were
tough sons of guns.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, you don't want to wake him up, you don't
want to startle him. No, oh no, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I had a friend, In fact, he was the best
man at my wedding, an incredible friend. And his dad
is a Vietnam Vet and his dad, like so many
was self medicating with the bottle, and that was a problem.
But he when he got back, there were stories about
how his you know, he's still a young man. He
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moved back in with his parents, and his mother tried
to wake him up one day, you know, honey, honey,
it's the afternoon, now, you need to wake up.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And he was in the middle of whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The PTSD episode was that he was having, and and
he leaped out of bed and he and he grabbed
his mother, and she feared for her life. And it
took a while before he was able to recognize what
the world was going on.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, terrifying stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, we grew up terrified of Vietnam vets when I
was a kid. If you want to wake one up,
you stand in the doorway, Yeah, and you wake them
up gently, yes, very gently.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Man, I can't even imagine what they saw. I cannot
even imagine. All Right, you heard Cobalt talking aout it.
You're living in a state that's already a nation sized experiment.
Now you've got one California lawmaker who again is going
to be out of John Cobalt tomorrow says it's time
to cut the state in half. The push to split
the Golden State and then who gets stuck with Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's next. I'm Chris Merrill.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're listening to kfi AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Chris Merril, kfi AM six forty more stimulating talking on
demand anytime the iHeart Radio app. But still like im,
we'll talk about food stamps are off the table, and
there is there is bad news coming for I'm going
to say most politicians on both sides.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Of the island DC bad bad news that's coming up
here after eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You may have heard this proposal that there's another idea
because it's worked out so well every other time that
it's been proposed about every two years to split California. Well,
let's see, four states didn't work, two states didn't w
The latest is, well, what if we just make it
into the two states and we go coastal California and
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then eastern California.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm sure it'll work this time. So the plan
is to basically split along party lines one more.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Time, spurred on by Proposition fifty that jerrymanders congressional from
KRCR district and critics say takes away any voice conservatives
have in California.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Assembly Member Gallagher has proposed Assembly Joint Resolution twenty three
that would create Inland California from about thirty five counties.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Uh huh. I probably don't need to spend a whole
lot of time in this room on the.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Why water wolves trucks, electric trucks, electric school buses.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Uh, the audacity skyrocketing utility and gas bills.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, that sucks. Crime enablement policies. I don't think anybody's
enabling crime, but you might not like the policies homeless
enablement policies. I think anybody's trying to be homeless. Reckless spending,
all right, the tax dollars that don't stay local, What
are you kidding? Where do they go?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh DC, Yeah they do. Yeah, we pay more into
Washington than what Washington pays back.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But that's fine.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
After Gallagher's presentation, Supervisors voted at three to two to
support the formation of a new state Genius Crike, Helstrum,
and Harmon in favor Alan and Plumber again. Okay, so
you've got support that matters not Uh yeah. Critics are
dismissing the idea as impractical and politically dead on arrival,
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but you've got people that are not happy. This is
the same thing, but it's the negative of what we
see in other states. Look, I started my top career
in Kansas, all right. I was doing music radio before then.
It's oh, next year will be twenty years that I've
been doing talk radio. Started my talk career in Kansas.
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And I was in Lawrence, Kansas, which is a college town.
And Lawrence, Kansas is very much like Austin, Texas, and
that's very odd. A bunch of nutbags live there, and
good nutbags. And the thing is is that they hated
being in Kansas. As you might imagine, Kansas is pretty conservative,
so they hated it, hated it, and they constantly they
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would talk about being this blue oasis and a.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Sea of red and all this other garbage.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They whatever they say, sixty seven square miles of sanity
is what the bumper stickers would say. You know, this
kind of thing. And guess what, They're still there. It's
not going anywhere. Austin isn't seceding from Texas. Texas isn't
seceding from the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
This is not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
This is a pretty typical rural versus urban arguments, and
it happens in every single state, every single state. I
get that you've got conservatives that are frustrated with California liberals.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And if you go to.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Texas, you're gonna find liberals who are frustrated with Texas conservatives.
And if you go to Florida, you're gonna find liberals
that are frustrated with Florida conservatives. And if you go
to New York, you're gonna find conservatives that are frustrated
with New York liberals. And almost always it's rural versus urban.
The priorities are different. They're just flat out different. You
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heard the criticism from the lawmaker that said electric trucks,
electric buses. Oh yeah, that probably doesn't work in central
California nearly as well as it would work in a
place that is notorious for smog. Right now, I look
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at the map, and this lawmaker, he really really dialed
the counties down into what he thought was gonna be
liberal versus conservative. So, uh, riverside San Bernardino, Imperial, Uh,
you're gonna be in Inland California. You're gonna be part
of the red California. But he stuck Sacramento with with
the coastals. So that's uh, that's gonna be blue California.
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I feel like that was I feel like that's a
toss up. Nobody really wants Sacramento. Nobody wants that. Oh
it's a great town, it's fine. But yeah, and what's
the capital of the new place gonna be? Uh, Bakersfield.
Who's what's gonna be the capital city of Inland California. Uh,
(19:43):
let's see, you've got to You've got conservatives, rural area,
probably a little bit older. Uh Springs. I don't know
what you're doing, Shasta. I don't know where you're gonna
make the capital city. But it doesn't work. The argument
is that California is too big and it's too diverse,
and you can't govern it as effectively because it's just
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too big of a state. But can make that argument
for any other state, And I know other states are
not our problem. You're totally right about that. But this
has been pitched how many times before, and it's failed
how many times before, and it would require an Act
of Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's not going anywhere. What it is is an attention grab.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's clickbait, and it's always oh no, we're very serious
about this proposal. Ooh, this is what we really want.
First of all, you know it's not going anywhere, but
you're gonna you're gonna get out there and find yourself
a camera anyway. Second of all, you can't support yourself
the idea that you're gonna split California and you're gonna
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let the coast, which is the lion's share of the
economy aside from the agriculture, right, the lion's share of
the economy is on the coast. You're not gonna support yourself,
which means that these dollars that you say aren't saying locally.
You're gonna be asking for federal dollars that are coming
from the California you just left.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're gonna say, we need some of the Silicon Valley money.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, we need some of that that the money from
from LA and the industry there, and we need some
of the other You're gonna be asking for money in
no time. Don't tell me about fiscal responsibility when you're
looking to be when you're looking to be a suckler
on the teat of the federal government, that's how it's
gonna work out. It look Texas suckles Texas is a suckler.
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There's suckleage happening in Texas, much suckleage. And we are
We're a donor state. It's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
We don't suckle. We do not suckle. We spit. Where's
the rim shot?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Snap is on again, off again, offer again, off est again.
Supreme Court weighing in again on whether or not the
government needs to honor it's promised to make sure people
are fed even as a deal is inching closer. It
leaves families in a bit of limbo while the clock
is running out. And find out what the latest update
is on that next time. Chris Merril k IF I
AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app Mark Ronner,
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no suckler joke.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I appreciate everybody that sent them in thus far.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I do.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I check them all.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I listen to them all. Doesn't mean they're all gonna
get on the air, but I do listen to them all.
So I appreciate everybody that that participates.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I love that feedback. You guys are fantastic. Thank you
so much. Food stamps are off the table.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh I'm sorry, I should tease this that coming up
here after eight o'clock, there's absolute disarray going out to Washington.
That is gonna sting both parties. And I will sing
to you so you're you're gonna want to hang on
for that. It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Good. The Supreme Court got in.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
On the Snap situation again. Remember Snap was off. Then
the Court said Snap has to be on. Then the
President said, case Snap is on. Then the President said
case Snap is half on. And then he said no,
no Snap, and then the Court said yes Snap. And
then and then he appealed to the Supreme Court who
said no Snap. And now the Supreme Court has come
(23:29):
down again on paying the Snap benefits during the shutdown breaking.
This is from ABC seven News.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
A short time ago, the Supreme Court extended an order
blocking full Snap food assistance benefits to the needy during
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
This comes as the House prepares to vote on reopening
the government, possibly as early as tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And that would here is what a joey rand is
here now with more.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
And the hope is that comes quickly because the food
assistants would come with it. So President Trump has been
fighting in court for weeks to prevent poor people from
getting food assistants from the government during the shutdown. They
had lost that fight when a judge ordered the administration
to make those payments.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The administration appeal.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
The Supreme Court put those payments on hold pending the appeal,
what's called a stay on those payments pending for their proceedings.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well tonight.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
The Court wanted to keep that stay in place until
at least Thursday night. Of course, once the government reopens,
those payments would begin once again.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oooh, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Kaitanji Brown Jackson is the justice who put the first stay.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
In effect, and she said, nope, you don't have to
send the payments out.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Which was a bit surprising, although it goes to show
that the Supreme Court justices are not simply politicians and robes.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
They try to follow the law.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Katanji Brown Jackson considered to be part of the left
wing of the Supreme.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Court, and she's the one that issued that state.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
So now the full Court said, okay, well, we're going
to extend the stay and paying off the benefits. And
you think, well, are you going to hear an argument
for it? And they go, eh, probably not. And now Jackson,
for her part, noted that she would have denied the extension.
As Congress is considering this bill, forty two million Americans
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relying on SNAP and that's Califresh. Of course, here administration
said the payments would be about sixty five percent funded
without any congressional action. But they also have said all
sorts of things like, we're out of money, we paid
it all. Any states that did pay, you have to
get the money back. I don't know how you claw back.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Bread. I don't know how that works. California.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you'll recall California and Wisconsin, I think we're the
first two states that that said you know what we're gonna,
We're gonna, We're gonna push the button and send the
money anyway. And so when the court said you have
to fund it, basically you had to scramble from certain
states that said get that money out before they can
come back and say no, before they can appeal it,
before anything else, get the money out. And the thinking
is once the money's out, it's out. Can't put that
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genie back in the box. The President then said, you
have to get the money back again. I don't know
how you get the money back from people who won
don't have the money in the first place.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
They don't have any money.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's not like they've got savings that you can that
you can get. I mean some do, but largely you're
talking about people who are paycheck to paycheck or benefit
to benefit. So I don't know how you claw that
money back. You can try to pull it off of
the EBED, the EBT card, but the EBT card again,
they get noticed that there's money on the card.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You don't have food in the pantry.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You go, you run real fast to Ralph's or Walmart
or wherever you're going, and you you fill your basket
and you get some groceries for the family. So then
the president says, get that money back. Well, wow, there
really isn't a mechanism unless you want to.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And this is how the government would do it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If they owe us money, they would say, well, you
can claim that on your next taxes. You can get
a refund your next taxes. So, I mean, how do
you claw that money back? Do you say you already
received a partial tax refund or something of the sort.
So the next time they do their taxes, instead of
giving them a refund of five thousand dollars, you give
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them a refund of forty six hundred dollars or something.
I don't know how you do it, because by the
time you got to file taxes anyway, the everyone's gonna
be reopening. That money is supposed to be distributed. So
I don't know how you possibly get that money back
right now. It just doesn't It just doesn't make any
sense at all. I know there's gonna be some people
are gonna say the court did this, the court is
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starving people. And I tend to be a defender of
the courts. I have more faith in the courts than
a lot of people do. And I know that the
courts do tend to split along ideological lines. However, if
you look more cases than not, those lines are morel
then what reporting what have you think? So, for instance,
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Katanji Brown Jackson, following what she interpreted as the law,
is the one that said block you can block the payments, right,
even though.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
She's the liberal justice.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
She didn't say I'll do the bidding of Hakeem Jeffreys
and Chuck Schumer, right, she says, it's my job to
interpret the law and this is what I'm reading. So yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna we're gonna allow the administration to
block the payments until the wider court can hear this,
And the wider court is said, we're gonna extend that
until we can have a period to deliberate. At what
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cost is the question? And this is where people are frustrated.
I think this is where Katanji Brown Jackson. Justice Jackson
is is saying that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
She would not have.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Allowed for the extension because of the harm that it's doing,
the irretractable harm that it's doing.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It may all be moot, however.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Because if the if Congress actually gets together and does
something tomorrow, of course Senate pass their bill, it has
to go back to the House. Then it has to
go to the Senate again, and that has to go
to the president. The President has already said he would
sign it. I don't know that it is likely to
be held up in the House. I don't think so.
I think it's going to get through. The Republicans still
have a majority. They seem to have signaled that they're
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gonna pass this bill, and if they do that, then
all of the arguments oversnap are moot, and any any
other further court action is there's no standing for it,
so I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Just don't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
The shutdown drama, however, is getting closer to that resolution.
But the fight is happening inside the party, and while
you've got some people, actually both sides are claiming victory
on this, although it's only a handful of Democrats claiming victory,
others are claiming betrayal. MAGA is claiming victory, and I
think MAGA should be very careful because the result of
(29:56):
this fight is going to be a nightmare for old
schools Democrats and for all of MAGA. The turning point
that you are witnessing in real time is next. I'm
Chris merriland KFI AM six forty on demand
You're listening to k if I am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Evening Chris Merrill, okay, if I am six forty more
stimulating talk.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Good to see everyone, It's good. Good round up here tonight.
We got Ali, we got Nicky. Ronner survived, big night
for Ronner. Why what's going on? What happened? I know
you had the big doctor's appointment today. Well let's that
was touch and go for a while. Well more touch
than go. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Actually, look, I'm glad you do. Okay, I'm glad you
got through that. You know, I'm glad. I'm glad you
brought your own vaseline this time.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
No, both his hands weren't on my shoulders. Let's just
get that one out of the way right now.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okayh wow, boy, it's like golf course jokes tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wow, I know, I know it's terrible. Oh good night.
Well that's that's traumatizing. You've you've been through this? Yeah yeah,
went back for more.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Paid extra yeah see, and that had an appointment on Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
By the time I left, I had another one schedule
for Monday. Why not?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So good times, good times by everyone. Thank you so
much for being a part of it k if I
am six forty IM Chris Merrily. You can listen any
time I demand on the iHeart Radio app. Happy Veterans
Day to everyone. Yesterday was a Marine Corps birthday two
hundred and fifty years Happy Birthday, Marine Corps. My son
graduated from boot camp. I think it's been like ten
(01:29):
years now, and he did a couple of years in
the reserves.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was nice. We lived in San Diego at the time,
so we got to go to the graduation. That was great.
I love that being at the.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
The what they call that the intake depot there, you know,
the new recruitment depot whatever. That was neat being on site.
You don't get to go there very often unless you're
you know, in the military. But they led schlubs like us,
and to watch the graduations. It was great to be
there for him. I was I was tearing up, to
say the least. I was so proud he was able
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to do that. So my son, he said to me, God,
I think it was the year he graduated from from
boot camp.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Then he did. He did training at Pendleton and and
he he said to me, on November tenth, one year
he goes Happy Birthday he said, yeah, I think you
got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't think you know what my birthday is. He says, no, no,
it's a Marine court birthday. Oh okay, yeah, happy birthday.
So I put it in my calendar so every year
I remember. Of course it's in the news all the
time too, but I always make sure I've got a
reminder that to say happy birthday, because I know it's
it's an important date.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
February tenth. Excuse me, I February nice.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Try November tenth also an historical time for those of
us that grew up in the Upper Midwest, because it
is the anniversary of the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald,
which I was very upset to find out how few
people knew about the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald. I
(02:56):
was asking people around my office. I said, if I
were to say to you, Edmund Fitzgerald, what do you know, Well,
everybody knows the song? Well, you know that's the things
I work with a lot of gen zs, and they don't.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
They don't really he doesn't love a sea shanty? Come on,
it is indeed a sea shanty. I love that song.
Everybody does. You have to?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I went to Whitefish Point over Labor Day weekend
and I went up to the Shipwreck Museum. It's a
third time I've been to Whitefish Point and been to
the Shipwreck Museum one twice. And what I found about
the shipwreck Museum, which is interesting now, Edmund Fitzgerald sank
about fifteen miles seventeen miles or so off of Whitefish Point,
(03:39):
which is in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and so
that's kind of the final resting place, the grave for
those sailors. And when you go to the Shipwreck Museum,
now it's more than just the Edmun Fitzgerald's. It's about
all the different Great Lakes shipwrecks. And it's a really
fascinating place. And I'm gonna get I'm gonna turn into
old man, geeky guy here, but you know, they go
(04:00):
through and they tell you about all the different shipwrecks
going all the way back into the you know, sixteen
hundreds and things like that, the wooden ships and all
these others that sank and lives and many many lives lost.
Over six thousand ships sank in the Great Lakes. So
when you go in there, though, they're playing the Gordon
Lightfoot Record. They've mentioned Stererald on Loop and I'm one
(04:21):
of those guys that likes to read every placard, right,
I'm so annoyed. My wife hates it, but she's also
she's also very kind, and so she'll see a placard
still go I shouldn't tell you this.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
There's a sign over there. You can go read it.
I'll go over here and do something else, thank you, honey.
And I run right over and I read it all
and I just love it to death.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So they play this song on Loop and about the
fifth time you hear it in a row while you're
wandering through that museum, which is a very strange solemn.
It's almost like you're in the like you're walking into
a funeral home. It's very quiet, it's got a kind
of dim life, and all the artifacts are lit really well.
But as you as you walk around, you just hear
(05:06):
this haunting sea shanty, as Mark put it over and
over and over.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Again and again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
By about the fifth time, you're going, okay, you know what,
this song is starting to burn me out here. It's
a it's I've heard the song before, okay, But then
I think about.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
The employees that are there every single day. They have
to be pushed at the brink of sanity.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Gosh, oh, I wonder how many of them just get
out of work and just walk right into the lake
just you know what.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's it. I'm just walking into the lake, just joining
everyone else right out they go.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Make it stop. Yeah, you would think so. But also
in that part of the Upper peninsul I mean, it
is a long way from anything. You're you're you're driving
miles along the shoreline. It's a beautiful drive, but there
is nothing there. I mean nothing. You're twenty miles from
the nearest quote unquote city, which is like a bar,
a church, and a gas station. It's called Paradise, Michigan,
(06:00):
and it is paradise. If you want to be away
from everyone else and be off the grid, that's where
you want to go.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's It's God's country for sure. But God, there's just
there aren't. There aren't many jobs. So if you if
you live up there and you get the job, I
guess you deal with it. So anyway, Uh, fifty years
the recor of the ofed In Fitzgerald, people that were
following my Instagram probably thought I was insane. I just
kept posting over and over and over again, all these
different memes about the the the fits, and it was
(06:27):
part of our history. When I was growing up. We
did you know, hey, did you guys have like a
California history classes?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, you did.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is unbelievable. It was an anatomy
of Koalas or something. So, uh yeah, no we did.
So you got like California history. Well, we have Michigan
history classes, of course, and that's where I grew up,
and that was a that was a pretty big deal
in the Michigan history class was the record the Aedmin Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So the nice.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thing about it was you had the cheat sheet that
was the Gordon Lightfoot song, so you kind of knew
how many souls were lost, and you know what month
it was in what happened kind of in nor'easter, the
Dales of November, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So that was happening today.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As I mentioned, Veterans Day and kind of a neat
deal too. There was there was one of those one
of those flights, you know, the veteran flights, but they
had a surprise visitor this time around.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
ABC News had it.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
This honor flight is to honor all the veterans of
World War II, Korea, Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's all free for them.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We show them all.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Their monuments and explain what their monuments are about. We
just try to treat them with dignity that some of
them didn't get when they.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Came home from the war.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, especially the Vietnam vetes. I got a story about
one of those guys here in a.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Minute, Hello everybody, what what as we approached veterans that
I wanted to stop buy and just say thank you
for extraordinary service to you, your family, The sacrifices that
all of you made to protect our country as something
that will always be honored.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's pretty cool. You're on the flight and all of
a sudden the former president walks on give some well wishes.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So he give these war heroes a surprise and a
bit of a salute.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Thought that was pretty classy.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So the honor flight was from Madison, Wisconsin to DC
and they.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Were there for today. So that's great.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Like I mentioned, I have a story about a Vietnam vet.
Here's what I know about Vietnam vets. Don't mess with them.
Don't mess with Vietnam Vets. It doesn't matter how old
they are, it doesn't matter what their physical condition is.
Vietnam Vets will take you down if they have to.
It is one of the most badass generations of soldiers
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who never got their due and never got their the
recognition right because of all the controversy around the war itself.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Story about a seventy nine year old.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Vietnam Vet who got the best of another one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's next. I'm Chris Meryl.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You're listening to kfi A six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Chris Merrill.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
If I am six forty more stimulating talk and listen
anytime on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Mark wanted
to hear more of the the Would you call it
a sea shanty?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are you gonna say.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Gives up? You've done this in karaoke, haven't you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was thinking, I really should I think you can
do a good Gordon Lightfoot, I should have been, I
should have been, should have been a singer. I'm really good? Yeah, yeah,
really good. If you say so yourself, you just heard it.
I mean that's no, it's not bad. I bet you
could do a decent Neil diamond too.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, little cracklin Rosie. You know
what I love Gordon Lightfoot, I love and I was saying, oh,
care free highway barf uh Sundown. Oh I love sundown,
Crank sundown. One of these days I'm gonna be that.
I'm gonna be that guy who's having a total midlife
crisis in a very expensive sports car, top down, cranking sundown.
(10:04):
Gordon Lightfoot, love it, love it. I told you about
the Vietnam veteran. Do not mess with Vietnam vets.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Don't mess with him.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Unfortunately, there seemed to be a guy that was having
a bit of a mental break and you probably heard
the story last year.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It was a guy stripped down and naked.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's thirty in his thirties, parked his car, stripped naked
and started roaming around the neighborhood studio City, and then
he rushed this Vietnam vet, knocked the guy down, broke
his legs. This is the Vietnam vet, seventy nine years old.
This naked guy who's having this this mental breakdown, knocked
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the vet down and broke both of his legs in
the process. So he's got pins in his legs, now
his ankles and his hips. And it was still the
vet that got the best of him. He was talking with.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Fox.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think it was Fox eleven. Ah, no cbslas use
meant to make sure I get the right credit.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
It wasn't the wake up the Studio City community expected.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
On Friday.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
A naked man screaming, pulling up signs.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
He dashed from the sidewalk in front of the house
and through her door in like a flash.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
And then breaking into a home.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I said, I gotta get a gun. I don't
have a chance against this guy.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
George Carcos owns the property.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
The burglar broke into.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
His tenant started screaming and he came running armed, told him.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
That we had contacted the police they were coming, and
asked him politely to please leave, Please leave.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
But from his hospital bed, he described what happened next
that made him shoot and kill the intruder.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
He jumped on top of me and wrapped his arms
and legs around me. He weighed over two hundred pounds.
I'm not strong enough to support that, and I just
collapsed straight down with his.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Right arm pen behind his back. He grabbed the gun
with his left and fired.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I wasn't thinking about on my shelf. I was thinking
about taking care of the problem.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And George was doing what he needed to do to
protect his property and the people that he loved.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's what kind of man he is. Just integrity.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Although frightened, his wife, Lily says, he did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, well, he did the right thing. This clear cut
self defense. And this guy, obviously he's having this mental break,
but so the right arm is pinned, his legs are broken.
He's got this guy over two hundred pounds lying on
top of him. The man is seventy nine years old.
Oh and he also is suffering from late stage Parkinson's
disease and still took out the intruder.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Do not mess with Vietnam Vets. Don't do it. I'm
growing up, had a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Of Vietnam Vets in my hometown, and man, they were
tough sons of guns.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, you don't want to wake him up, you don't
want to startle him. No, oh no, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I had a friend, In fact, he was the best
man at my wedding, an incredible friend. And his dad
is a Vietnam Vet and his dad, like so many
was self medicating with the bottle, and that was a problem.
But he when he got back, there were stories about
how his you know, he's still a young man. He
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moved back in with his parents, and his mother tried
to wake him up one day, you know, honey, honey,
it's the afternoon, now, you need to wake up.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And he was in the middle of whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The PTSD episode was that he was having, and and
he leaped out of bed and he and he grabbed
his mother, and she feared for her life. And it
took a while before he was able to recognize what
the world was going on.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, terrifying stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, we grew up terrified of Vietnam vets when I
was a kid. If you want to wake one up,
you stand in the doorway, Yeah, and you wake them
up gently, yes, very gently.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Man, I can't even imagine what they saw. I cannot
even imagine. All Right, you heard Cobalt talking aout it.
You're living in a state that's already a nation sized experiment.
Now you've got one California lawmaker who again is going
to be out of John Cobalt tomorrow says it's time
to cut the state in half. The push to split
the Golden State and then who gets stuck with Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's next. I'm Chris Merrill.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're listening to kfi AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Chris Merril, kfi AM six forty more stimulating talking on
demand anytime the iHeart Radio app. But still like im,
we'll talk about food stamps are off the table, and
there is there is bad news coming for I'm going
to say most politicians on both sides.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Of the island DC bad bad news that's coming up
here after eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You may have heard this proposal that there's another idea
because it's worked out so well every other time that
it's been proposed about every two years to split California. Well,
let's see, four states didn't work, two states didn't w
The latest is, well, what if we just make it
into the two states and we go coastal California and
(15:07):
then eastern California.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm sure it'll work this time. So the plan
is to basically split along party lines one more.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Time, spurred on by Proposition fifty that jerrymanders congressional from
KRCR district and critics say takes away any voice conservatives
have in California.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Assembly Member Gallagher has proposed Assembly Joint Resolution twenty three
that would create Inland California from about thirty five counties.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Uh huh. I probably don't need to spend a whole
lot of time in this room on the.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Why water wolves trucks, electric trucks, electric school buses.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Uh, the audacity skyrocketing utility and gas bills.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, that sucks. Crime enablement policies. I don't think anybody's
enabling crime, but you might not like the policies homeless
enablement policies. I think anybody's trying to be homeless. Reckless spending,
all right, the tax dollars that don't stay local, What
are you kidding? Where do they go?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh DC, Yeah they do. Yeah, we pay more into
Washington than what Washington pays back.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But that's fine.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
After Gallagher's presentation, Supervisors voted at three to two to
support the formation of a new state Genius Crike, Helstrum,
and Harmon in favor Alan and Plumber again. Okay, so
you've got support that matters not Uh yeah. Critics are
dismissing the idea as impractical and politically dead on arrival,
(16:45):
but you've got people that are not happy. This is
the same thing, but it's the negative of what we
see in other states. Look, I started my top career
in Kansas, all right. I was doing music radio before then.
It's oh, next year will be twenty years that I've
been doing talk radio. Started my talk career in Kansas.
(17:06):
And I was in Lawrence, Kansas, which is a college town.
And Lawrence, Kansas is very much like Austin, Texas, and
that's very odd. A bunch of nutbags live there, and
good nutbags. And the thing is is that they hated
being in Kansas. As you might imagine, Kansas is pretty conservative,
so they hated it, hated it, and they constantly they
(17:28):
would talk about being this blue oasis and a.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Sea of red and all this other garbage.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They whatever they say, sixty seven square miles of sanity
is what the bumper stickers would say. You know, this
kind of thing. And guess what, They're still there. It's
not going anywhere. Austin isn't seceding from Texas. Texas isn't
seceding from the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
This is not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
This is a pretty typical rural versus urban arguments, and
it happens in every single state, every single state. I
get that you've got conservatives that are frustrated with California liberals.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And if you go to.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Texas, you're gonna find liberals who are frustrated with Texas conservatives.
And if you go to Florida, you're gonna find liberals
that are frustrated with Florida conservatives. And if you go
to New York, you're gonna find conservatives that are frustrated
with New York liberals. And almost always it's rural versus urban.
The priorities are different. They're just flat out different. You
(18:35):
heard the criticism from the lawmaker that said electric trucks,
electric buses. Oh yeah, that probably doesn't work in central
California nearly as well as it would work in a
place that is notorious for smog. Right now, I look
(18:56):
at the map, and this lawmaker, he really really dialed
the counties down into what he thought was gonna be
liberal versus conservative. So, uh, riverside San Bernardino, Imperial, Uh,
you're gonna be in Inland California. You're gonna be part
of the red California. But he stuck Sacramento with with
the coastals. So that's uh, that's gonna be blue California.
(19:21):
I feel like that was I feel like that's a
toss up. Nobody really wants Sacramento. Nobody wants that. Oh
it's a great town, it's fine. But yeah, and what's
the capital of the new place gonna be? Uh, Bakersfield.
Who's what's gonna be the capital city of Inland California. Uh,
(19:43):
let's see, you've got to You've got conservatives, rural area,
probably a little bit older. Uh Springs. I don't know
what you're doing, Shasta. I don't know where you're gonna
make the capital city. But it doesn't work. The argument
is that California is too big and it's too diverse,
and you can't govern it as effectively because it's just
(20:04):
too big of a state. But can make that argument
for any other state, And I know other states are
not our problem. You're totally right about that. But this
has been pitched how many times before, and it's failed
how many times before, and it would require an Act
of Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's not going anywhere. What it is is an attention grab.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's clickbait, and it's always oh no, we're very serious
about this proposal. Ooh, this is what we really want.
First of all, you know it's not going anywhere, but
you're gonna you're gonna get out there and find yourself
a camera anyway. Second of all, you can't support yourself
the idea that you're gonna split California and you're gonna
(20:47):
let the coast, which is the lion's share of the
economy aside from the agriculture, right, the lion's share of
the economy is on the coast. You're not gonna support yourself,
which means that these dollars that you say aren't saying locally.
You're gonna be asking for federal dollars that are coming
from the California you just left.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're gonna say, we need some of the Silicon Valley money.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, we need some of that that the money from
from LA and the industry there, and we need some
of the other You're gonna be asking for money in
no time. Don't tell me about fiscal responsibility when you're
looking to be when you're looking to be a suckler
on the teat of the federal government, that's how it's
gonna work out. It look Texas suckles Texas is a suckler.
(21:36):
There's suckleage happening in Texas, much suckleage. And we are
We're a donor state. It's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
We don't suckle. We do not suckle. We spit. Where's
the rim shot?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Snap is on again, off again, offer again, off est again.
Supreme Court weighing in again on whether or not the
government needs to honor it's promised to make sure people
are fed even as a deal is inching closer. It
leaves families in a bit of limbo while the clock
is running out. And find out what the latest update
is on that next time. Chris Merril k IF I
AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app Mark Ronner,
(22:14):
no suckler joke.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I appreciate everybody that sent them in thus far.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I do.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I check them all.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I listen to them all. Doesn't mean they're all gonna
get on the air, but I do listen to them all.
So I appreciate everybody that that participates.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I love that feedback. You guys are fantastic. Thank you
so much. Food stamps are off the table.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh I'm sorry, I should tease this that coming up
here after eight o'clock, there's absolute disarray going out to Washington.
That is gonna sting both parties. And I will sing
to you so you're you're gonna want to hang on
for that. It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Good. The Supreme Court got in.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
On the Snap situation again. Remember Snap was off. Then
the Court said Snap has to be on. Then the
President said, case Snap is on. Then the President said
case Snap is half on. And then he said no,
no Snap, and then the Court said yes Snap. And
then and then he appealed to the Supreme Court who
said no Snap. And now the Supreme Court has come
(23:29):
down again on paying the Snap benefits during the shutdown breaking.
This is from ABC seven News.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
A short time ago, the Supreme Court extended an order
blocking full Snap food assistance benefits to the needy during
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
This comes as the House prepares to vote on reopening
the government, possibly as early as tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And that would here is what a joey rand is
here now with more.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
And the hope is that comes quickly because the food
assistants would come with it. So President Trump has been
fighting in court for weeks to prevent poor people from
getting food assistants from the government during the shutdown. They
had lost that fight when a judge ordered the administration
to make those payments.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The administration appeal.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
The Supreme Court put those payments on hold pending the appeal,
what's called a stay on those payments pending for their proceedings.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well tonight.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
The Court wanted to keep that stay in place until
at least Thursday night. Of course, once the government reopens,
those payments would begin once again.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oooh, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Kaitanji Brown Jackson is the justice who put the first stay.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
In effect, and she said, nope, you don't have to
send the payments out.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Which was a bit surprising, although it goes to show
that the Supreme Court justices are not simply politicians and robes.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
They try to follow the law.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Katanji Brown Jackson considered to be part of the left
wing of the Supreme.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Court, and she's the one that issued that state.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
So now the full Court said, okay, well, we're going
to extend the stay and paying off the benefits. And
you think, well, are you going to hear an argument
for it? And they go, eh, probably not. And now Jackson,
for her part, noted that she would have denied the extension.
As Congress is considering this bill, forty two million Americans
(25:13):
relying on SNAP and that's Califresh. Of course, here administration
said the payments would be about sixty five percent funded
without any congressional action. But they also have said all
sorts of things like, we're out of money, we paid
it all. Any states that did pay, you have to
get the money back. I don't know how you claw back.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Bread. I don't know how that works. California.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you'll recall California and Wisconsin, I think we're the
first two states that that said you know what we're gonna,
We're gonna, We're gonna push the button and send the
money anyway. And so when the court said you have
to fund it, basically you had to scramble from certain
states that said get that money out before they can
come back and say no, before they can appeal it,
before anything else, get the money out. And the thinking
is once the money's out, it's out. Can't put that
(26:00):
genie back in the box. The President then said, you
have to get the money back again. I don't know
how you get the money back from people who won
don't have the money in the first place.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
They don't have any money.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's not like they've got savings that you can that
you can get. I mean some do, but largely you're
talking about people who are paycheck to paycheck or benefit
to benefit. So I don't know how you claw that
money back. You can try to pull it off of
the EBED, the EBT card, but the EBT card again,
they get noticed that there's money on the card.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You don't have food in the pantry.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You go, you run real fast to Ralph's or Walmart
or wherever you're going, and you you fill your basket
and you get some groceries for the family. So then
the president says, get that money back. Well, wow, there
really isn't a mechanism unless you want to.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And this is how the government would do it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If they owe us money, they would say, well, you
can claim that on your next taxes. You can get
a refund your next taxes. So, I mean, how do
you claw that money back? Do you say you already
received a partial tax refund or something of the sort.
So the next time they do their taxes, instead of
giving them a refund of five thousand dollars, you give
(27:21):
them a refund of forty six hundred dollars or something.
I don't know how you do it, because by the
time you got to file taxes anyway, the everyone's gonna
be reopening. That money is supposed to be distributed. So
I don't know how you possibly get that money back
right now. It just doesn't It just doesn't make any
sense at all. I know there's gonna be some people
are gonna say the court did this, the court is
(27:42):
starving people. And I tend to be a defender of
the courts. I have more faith in the courts than
a lot of people do. And I know that the
courts do tend to split along ideological lines. However, if
you look more cases than not, those lines are morel
then what reporting what have you think? So, for instance,
(28:04):
Katanji Brown Jackson, following what she interpreted as the law,
is the one that said block you can block the payments, right,
even though.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
She's the liberal justice.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
She didn't say I'll do the bidding of Hakeem Jeffreys
and Chuck Schumer, right, she says, it's my job to
interpret the law and this is what I'm reading. So yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna we're gonna allow the administration to
block the payments until the wider court can hear this,
And the wider court is said, we're gonna extend that
until we can have a period to deliberate. At what
(28:33):
cost is the question? And this is where people are frustrated.
I think this is where Katanji Brown Jackson. Justice Jackson
is is saying that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
She would not have.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Allowed for the extension because of the harm that it's doing,
the irretractable harm that it's doing.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It may all be moot, however.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Because if the if Congress actually gets together and does
something tomorrow, of course Senate pass their bill, it has
to go back to the House. Then it has to
go to the Senate again, and that has to go
to the president. The President has already said he would
sign it. I don't know that it is likely to
be held up in the House. I don't think so.
I think it's going to get through. The Republicans still
have a majority. They seem to have signaled that they're
(29:17):
gonna pass this bill, and if they do that, then
all of the arguments oversnap are moot, and any any
other further court action is there's no standing for it,
so I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Just don't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
The shutdown drama, however, is getting closer to that resolution.
But the fight is happening inside the party, and while
you've got some people, actually both sides are claiming victory
on this, although it's only a handful of Democrats claiming victory,
others are claiming betrayal. MAGA is claiming victory, and I
think MAGA should be very careful because the result of
(29:56):
this fight is going to be a nightmare for old
schools Democrats and for all of MAGA. The turning point
that you are witnessing in real time is next. I'm
Chris merriland KFI AM six forty on demand
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