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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. My
next guest blew me away with an email. It was
an email because it was so well constructed that I
knew she would be an excellent guess. See, I'm putting
her on the spot before she even knows. My next
guest is an author based in Raleigh, North Carolina. She
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is a writer and editor of the book called The
Things I Heard While Dating. It is a book that
looks into the quirky, qringe worthy, and often hilarious. We
have to have a sense of humor about this, folks,
otherwise it would be pure tragedy hilarious world of romantic dialogues. Hi,
Emily O'Brien, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm good, How are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
First question, what prompted you to write this book?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Because your background is actually in journalism having to do
with all kinds of things from architecture to cooking and
now dating.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right Will, that's an interesting story. I am actually out
of the dating realm right now. I'm twenty years into marriage.
But I remembered something strange and really out of the blue.
One day that a date had said to me, and
I just could not stop laughing, like, not just at
the line, but also it was a little bit of
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a time capsule into who I was at that time.
And the line was, oh, so you just have more
hair on one side of your head, And I said, no,
that's just how I part it, and I don't mind you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I had a very s I literally thought that you
had thin hair on one side and thick on another.
It didn't consider that a side part means you're pulling
some over to the other side.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Correct, yes, wow, wow. So I remembered that line and
it was this kind of an awkward moment and that
happened in the date and I just brushed it off
because I thought, I don't know if he is just
in awe of my hair for some reason and it
was nothing remarkable at all, or maybe trying to land
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a bad joke. I mean, that would be the maybe
best case scenario. And then later I remember something else
a different date had said to me, and I started
asking my girlfriends, do you have stories? Did anything weird
happen to you? And I did not expect to unlock
such a treasure trove of funny cringe worthy and just
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puzzling lines in general.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, before we get into it, I do want to
say that we love men and men you are trying, okay,
but some of you are bumbling around in the dating world,
and I anyway, I will say that research has shown
that one of the best ways that a man can
showcase his most important trait, which is intelligence, is humor.
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And so because of that, some men who aren't naturally
funny will attempt it as a way to you know,
showcase the humor. So this is lighthearted. We still love you, men,
but let's get into it. Let's talk about some questionable
pickup lines before we get to the date.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Anything you heard that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh yes, I did you know questionable pickup lives. One
that was actually damped on a dating app was do
you have stinky feet? And the woman wrote back no,
and he genuinely was upset that she did not have
stinky feet. So I suppose that was definitely a flop.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That was a fetish.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think that was a fetish because one time when
I was young, a guy asked me to specifically wear
strappy shoes to the date, which, if you're listening, not
a good idea to tell women what to wear before
you've even met them on a date.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But he wanted strappy shoes.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I got where he was coming from, So I said, listen, dude,
if you're like got some foot fetish thing, I've got
bunions and pump bumps and you're not going to be happy,
all right.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And it was in the.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Days where we wore high heels every single day. Did
you know, by the way, Emily, when you start wearing
sneakers and stop wearing those high heels, all that goes
away and your feet get pretty again, just saying so anyway,
he came up, he said, oh no, no, I don't
It's fine, you know, just wear whatever you want on
the date. So I remember wearing clothes toed pumps. But
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while we were at the restaurant, a woman in a
slinky dress walked by with strappy shoes, and he couldn't
help himself turned to me and said, oh my god,
did you see your feet?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Don't they look great? As if I was going to
share in this joy with.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Him, So yeah, oh no, I didn't see After that,
I didn't say, hey, it's okay if he has a
food fetish, But I just didn't you know, the first
date just seemed early to go there?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
All right? Any other pickup lines you heard from women?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I did.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
One woman submitted a line that said he said to
her pack your bags, let's go to Bali. And this
was on their first date after he showed up at
the wrong place and then confessed he had a drug
problem and was a practicing physician.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh yeah, that's a guy.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You want to run off to a foreign country with
alone without any.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Protection, right, you know what? Guy, here's a pickup line
I got from a guy.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was actually a text from someone who I had
known previously in another incarnation of life.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He was married, I was married. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Instead of writing a text that said, hey, you're single
now and I'm single now and oh my god, I've
always dreamed to go out with you and it would
be so wonderful, he literally wrote, so my divorce is final,
and I think you're kind of a little bit interesting.
Do you want to go out a little bit interesting?
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Pass on that one too, Pass on that one. What
do you think is the best thing a guy could
say if they meet someone in the real world and
they want to do some kind of pickup line, What
is your advice from what you've heard.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Ooh, honestly, I think just a regular conversation, like not
try to come up with something bizarre outlandish, and just
talk to someone. I know that sounds kind of old fashioned,
but I think that's probably the best.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
No you, No, I heard that flirting is back in
with jen Why they're trying to talk in public now.
They're not liking the dating apps, so I've been trying
to teach flirting techniques. My advice is just find any
common interest, even if it's the weather, like, oh, it's
raining so hard, you know you were smart enough to
wear raincoat, whatever, Like anything that you share in common
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in that moment, if you're both gazing at the same
airplane going by. I don't know, but just you have
to establish rapport by having something in common from the beginning,
and you got to search for it. I think that's
the best line. So when we come back, let us
get into the dates. The book is called Things I
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Heard While Dating. The author is Emily O'Brien, and she's
got lots of fun stuff for us.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
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they're there. I wanted to end the show with Emily
O'Brien's book Things I've Heard While Dating, because I just
thought it was so adorable that we make light and
this particular show has been a lot of information for
single people. So if you're still single and you're still listening,
here's some things you probably shouldn't say. Okay, Emily, what
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are some of the wildest things that women have told
you that men have said on dates? By the way,
have did you interview men to find out weird things
women say on dates?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, it's interesting all of the men that submitted
lines it was from what other men had said they
were in gay relationships.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I didn't have any men submitting lines from women.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, because we don't have to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
We just have to smile and look pretty, all right,
So what have you got in the book?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Things I heard while.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dating well Abby and Lenexa, Kansas heard on her second date,
I find you being a vegetarian so sexy. I want
to eat at a mammae off your back.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh oh, so she is that technically vegetarian off her body.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
She heard it during their first makeout session, which caused
her to let out that uncomfortable giggle that most women
do and they don't know how to react, and she
said he seemed perfect in every other way, but she
just could not get past that line.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it sounds like it starts with that a mommy,
it gets a hannibal lecter. I mean it just moves
on to something dangerous. I don't know, all right, anything
else for us? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
LS in Riverhead, New York, she heard this line on
her first in person date after two video calls, so
she had kind of vetted him at first, and he
said after she was returning from the bathroom, he said
to her, Oh, I can't get you out of my head.
They just don't make women with birthing hips like yours anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't know if this is good or bad. I mean,
like guys like curvy women now. But birthing hips.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Later when she broke up with him, which is unclear
if it was the same night or just within a
short period of time, he said, I have money, if
that helps, as if it was an excuse for his behavior.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Although we do like men with money. I'll just say
that's always a good mating strategy, is to showcase your
financial waste. Shall we say, I don't know birthing hips. Yeah,
one guy said to me once. I was a single
mom and I was out with my two little kids
at a museum and I ran into a guy who
had had a couple dates with back when I was single,
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and he literally said to me, oh, you turned out.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
To be quite a breeder. It's just weird.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I don't know if he was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Complimenting me, if that was a good thing a bad thing.
Flirting with that was just weird.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
All right, what else you got?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Cassandra heard in Colorado Springs after the date had ended,
so after the relationship ended, essentially he said, you need
someone who can handle you.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Pretty harsh at the time, Yeah, she said, you know,
she felt like that kind of She was never too
much really, when she really looked back at that line,
it was more that he wasn't enough rit what she
ended up feeling at the end.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So I remember guys used to say to me because
I was always a thinking woman, I didn't know that
I was smart, believe it or not. When I was
young and beautiful, I didn't know that I was as
smart as I am, and so I would be analyzing
whatever situation was up. And many a guy have said
to me, you think too much. And it was only
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years later that I learned how to say, you know,
you actually don't think enough for me right, like it exactly.
They didn't like they were intimidated by my brain, but
at the time they insulted me by saying, like, stop thinking,
just be emotional and sexy. I guess I don't know
what it is. Is there anybody who went on a
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date with somebody they said something awkward and then the
person went on to still marry them.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Ooh, not that I know of.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That was in the book.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's a good question, though they.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Got past it somehow, because I always wonder like it
was we had the weirdest icebreaker, but then it all
turned out fine in the end, because I am of
the the vein of give men a chance.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's hard for them to step up, it's hard for
them to ask a woman out, it's hard for them
to showcase. But you know, I also always say to guys,
do you know what it costs us to go on
a date besides the hair, makeup, wardrobe, childcare, transportation, and
then to sit and smile for you all night when
we're thinking about that client we got to meet with
tomorrow and the.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Big day ahead of us. Right, it's work for us too.
It's worked for both.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
People doing kind of an Academy Award winning performance on
a date. All right, another one for us?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Another one would be this came in from an anonymous
contributor two months into their relationship. He said, not everyone
thinks you're beautiful, but I do.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oohoo.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know what that goes in the category of So
there are certain ways that women can or that men
control women. Men who are insecure and they're afraid of
losing their partner, they either control them physically.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Where are you going? Who are you going to be with?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, you can't go out with a guy without me
that you can't be friends with just guys you're get
you that blah, blah blah blah blah, right, or they
control them psychologically. Men are really good at making women
feel less than not all men, some men, some manipulative narcissists. Right,
so it's almost like you better stay with me because
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you'll never get better. You're lucky that I happen to
think you're beautiful because your value on the mating marketplace
out there is low. And that's how you know. Narcissists
manipulate women. Right, All right, before we go, Emily, do
you have one more for us? Yes? I do.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
This one came in actually from a teen which gives
it a little bit of color as well. The line is,
if you're ever hot at my house, just know you
can take your shirt off and it's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Now a teenage boy, a teenage boy should say that. Okay,
that sounds exactly like a tenth grader.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If you had told me the guy was forty one,
I would have been like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
For a split second that said she thought he was
being thoughtful because it was summer, and then she she
wives up pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, Emily, thank you for joining us. Where can people
get the book? The book is called Things I heard
while dating? What can we get It's.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
On a website. Yeah, Things I Heard while Dating dot
com or on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
On Amazon, Emily O'Brien, what a lovely, cute book. And
I hope if you've been married for twenty years that
after doing all this research, you know it's time to
stay married and fonker down.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Because that's what it's like out there.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, it's like she tested the water psychologically and went,
you know what, I'm gonna work on things with my husband.
Thank you for joining us. My guest, Emily O'Brien, author
of Things I Heard While Dating and That brings The
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Speaker 3 (16:14):
Emily, great to have you here.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
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