November 12, 2025 • 12 mins
Parenting expert Justin Worsham joins the show to talk career vs. kids, and what really happens when parents take away the iPad.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Justin Worsham is with us, host of the Dad Podcast.
Today we're going to be talking about Shaquille O'Neill and
his different rules for girls versus his rules for boys
under his room.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Can he tells CNN how many kids he's got. Oh no,
I didn't look into that.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I did because we I don't know how many kids
he's got. He's got at least six and the steps on.
So he sometimes refers to having six or seven kids.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Whole lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, so, and I don't know the breakdown gender wise,
but multiples of each.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We do know that.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Here's what shocking that I think about that is that
he was born in Newark, New Jersey. Like this to
me seems like a very southern thing. Well, I believe he.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Grew up I mean born in New Jersey, but think
he spent most of his time in the South somewhere.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yonio.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This thing seems like, I said, what does he do?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
He's saying that thank you, Shennon.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
He's saying that if you were a boy at eighteen
years of age, you got to get up out his house.
But if you are a daughter, you could stay there
as long as your heart desires. And he will subsidize
your edge as much as you want, because he feels
he believes in traditional gender roles and that as a man,
it is your job to protect and take care of
your woman. And it's very interesting because personally, right I
(01:13):
like this, and what it made me think of is
that people, at least in my social groups, tend to
get very up in arms about traditional gender roles and
how it has some kind of a negative impact on
society at large, and that somehow it's also damaging to women,
I think in particular.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You tell me if you think, I'll tell you, Like,
my wife would love nothing more than for me to
make enough of a living where she didn't have to
do anything and I could completely take care of her,
like I'm sure that and that's.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How she's wired.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But it's interesting that we seem to have this expectation,
in my opinion, culturally, to be sensitive to people's religious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But in regard to like gender roles, we cannot.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Like, if you expect a woman to be somebody who's like,
You're going to stay and take care of house things
and kid things, and I'm going to take care of
money things that seems to be that now you are
subjecting that woman to a life that she does not want,
even if arguably, like again my wife would sign up,
you probably leave me.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Even if she could she could.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean she could, she absolutely could, she absolutely could.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But it's funny I didn't think of it that way,
just in terms of there are people who choose to
live a t I mean finger quotes traditional lifestyle, but
and they choose to live that way. It's not like
it's imposed upon or or they get married and then
all of the sudden the rules then emerge like oh no, no,
(02:39):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You do not get to have a job.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You do not get to do things other than kick
them shoes off, get fat, get in that kitchen kind
of thing.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Serve me right, Which it's never how it goes, at
least in the ones I've seen.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
That may have been in TV shows from fifty years ago,
but that does not exist.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
No, Like even in my situation, my wife has no
idea what's going on with her finances. I make all
the decision I run stuff by her, but she definitely
doesn't want to know.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
She doesn't want to be involved.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
But I the way I process that is that mean
that I just have to be aware of what she
wants and make sure she gets it as much as
I humanly can. She gets far more of what she
wants than I do, and so I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't mean that.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Am I accidentally slipping this some kind of like couple
seraphin or this crap.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I hate it when I step in stuff here.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I'm staying out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Smart. Gary's like, I wish I could. You guys are
just leave and I'll just say her talk to listeners myself, let.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Them worship family Christmas card and I don't want to
be cut off that list.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But the different, but it is different.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I mean, the idea, the prospect for women now is
vastly different than it was even thirty years ago whatever,
or when we were here, my own mom felt like
she could not go get a career.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
She felt like her job was to just could be a.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Nurse or a teacher, you know kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Those were the two avenues. Yeah, and now I mean,
my daughter is studying stuff. I don't even know how
to describe the Nobel Prize in terms of her chemistry
and physical not physical organic chemistry specifically, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't understand it. I would never.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
See in your mom's day and age, she would your
daughter's what twenty three, she'd be married and having kids
and there would be no time.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
For the lab.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's you're right. My mom was married by the time
she was ninety.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The time change tables have changed. So what does that mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So women now are gonna do all the things because
we've been shown it can be done. You can't have
a career, you can't have kids. You can do all
the things. It's just you got to move the slide moves.
So you're gonna be doing You're gonna be focused on
your career until you're thirty, and then you're gonna make
kids and get married and everything just gets shifted. And
that's why people are having babies later, right because of women.
(04:59):
And they're just decision to work and not to jump
into the traditional lifestyle right away. They can still do it.
I think there's a lot of women that want both.
They want to have the career and then they want
to be able to stay home take care of their
kids and have their husband take care of things when
it's his time to take care of everything.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, and what's interesting to me is also like how
long it's taken for the pendulum to kind of shift,
because for years I've been coming in here talking about how, yes,
it's a growing population of stay at home dads or
dads that are helping out more, but across the board,
dads are not doing enough in the home. They're not
doing enough of the cleaning and the cooking and the
(05:36):
taking care of the kids. Right, Like, you can't just
have that traditional role as a dad anymore, where you
just like I go make money, I come home, I
drink my Tom Collins and then the kids prepare their
speeches of what their day was, like let's leave it
to beaver, Like.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think people still do that, you think so, Yeah,
I used to drink Collins mix, Oh just clean, just Colins.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I loved a vodka Collins. That was a good drink.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
We'll come back or justin marshallall were we go, We're drinking.
Now we've seen this trailer yet I have not. All
the toys are terrified because the kid gets a tablet.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh. I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I love the I mean it's probably about ten fifteen
years too late, but I love the story and I
love the idea of it. The idea of reducing screen
time for kids is something that we've advocated for years
on this show. At the beginning, it was simply because
kids were rude in restaurants. I mean, if you go
(06:34):
to a restaurant and a kid's on a tablet, it's
always way too loud or you're, you know, robbing the
kid at the ability to understand social cues about when
to pipe down, when to speak up, when to be
heard from, and when to just be cute. And there
are parents now trying to reduce their kids screen time. Yeah,
and my issue with it is the is using it
as a pacifier. The bigger to me, this is me
(06:58):
interpreting what I've talked to an expert since Seen and
Like research is that the population of children is growing
with an inability to deal with negative experiences because they've
always got something to distract them. And this is pronounce
his name correctly, Jason Nagata. He's an associate professor of
pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, and he
(07:19):
was talking about the American Academy Pediatrics recommends that parents
create a family media use plan, which is very much
like a technology contract, I would imagine, and what they
talk about, there's this family that he talks about. What
they did was they noticed their kids were using it
a lot, and so I like the way they sat
down with them, And all of the experts I've ever
talked to would agree with this, as they said, Hey,
(07:40):
we have learned something that you using this tablet so
much is not a good thing for you.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So we're gonna we have to rain this back.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
And what I like about that is it's not like
parents coming in having to say, like we are saying
this is not okay, because that implies I think, to
a kid, you have done something wrong as a child,
which is not the message. I like that they're kind
of owning up, like this is how you handle things
when you find that you have a misunderstanding about them.
And then they say we wean them off of And
there was resistance, but eventually life in general just improved
(08:11):
when they had less of this distraction.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I guess it would be similar to telling a kid, hey,
I know I've been feeding you you who for the
last you know, every night for the last four weeks,
and I realized that's not good for you. Yeah, because
you can't you can't sleep and your guts don't work
no more, or whatever happens to a kid who has
four weeks worth of you who But the idea of
(08:38):
what do you call it, of logically explaining something to
kids like this is a little bit lost on me.
Oh really, well, only because I guess it would depend
on the age and wiscrapoint what level they are in
terms of that, of their comprehension of that. But it
is something to say, hey, I mean the idea that
you would scold them without really an explanation, right, would probably.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think coming in and saying you are on your
screen too much, so we have to minimize that. I think,
like I'm also even looking at it. My older son
especially has started to like moments where I've had of
shorter fuse. He calls me on it, like holds up
a mirror to He's like, damn, but everything.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, like you good? And I don't like it. I'll
be honest, I do not like it. I like being
called out.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I prefer the much more compliant four year old version
of him, right, the smaller.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I have enough introspection going on in my life. I
think we all can agree. I don't need himpiling it on.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Okay guy, But but yeah, it's it's talking to them
and saying like this is we have to we have
to change this, and we have to do it better
because and I talk about it all the time on here.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Is that you know, the more kids use social media,
the more likely they are to become depressed. The thing
I want to add to that is that I just
I think that as parents, and I would love myself
into this.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think I've started to be guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But don't notice any time or I've gone all the
way through where you see something like this and mean
and say and interpret it to mean no.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Social media whatsoever. You can never use a tablet. And
that's not the message either.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
What we're really talking about in all things is moderation, right,
and you have to look at your kid and what
they can and can't handle.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But it's hard when the companies are wired to get
your kid addicted.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Moderation is very tough.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, it's almost think of alcohol this way, where there's
certain advertisements about alcohol that make it sound fun and
it's exciting, and there's always pool parties and beer is
great for you and all that sort of suff you
just went hiking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Here's a michelob ultra.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But then there has to be an aspect of it
as you as an adult of somebody who's going to
do this, which in this case is drink beer. You
have to know that the negative, what the negatives are
that would be associated with it, Like you have to
be fully informed about it so that you can make
that decision. Kids, I don't think are fully informed about
If I'm on my screen, whatever kind of screen it is,
(10:55):
for seven hours a day, if that's the thing that
is taking up most of my time, I don't have
much I don't have any ability to learn about the
potential negatives of it because all my time is sucked
into this one thing.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And I think, I think the people who get really
hard up about technology and screen time also seem to
not have a different approach when it comes to like nutrition, Right,
they talk about moderation for sweets, but they don't they
you know what I mean? Like they feel like they
and I don't know because here to your point, Shannon,
do you think that when you become a certain age
you suddenly have the ability to like develop the discipline
(11:29):
that you needed?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Are you right? Because what I learned and my two kids.
That was very like my two kids.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
One kid, for a moment in his life, he felt
like Instagram was a distraction, so he just deleted off
his phone. I didn't even know he did it. He
didn't make a proclamation that he did it. He didn't
do anything like that. But my younger son, it like you,
he's different. You have to regulate those things for him.
And I've learned that because I've never regulated their screen
time because I hope that it would teach them the
(11:57):
self discipline that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
They would start to see the pitfall. And he has.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
My younger son, his grades have fallen because he prioritized
playing video games and now I take the video games
away and he's getting his grades better. And he but
he asked me just this week, he was like, I've
made the effort. Can I now have games back? And
I was like no, and I'm sorry, but that's not
how life works.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I love that argument. I've made the effort.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And that's very much as mother, as much as I
love ear well.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And that goes full circle to treating your kids. You know,
different kids receive different treatment. That's exactly what Shaq taught us. Yeah,
what would Shack do? What would Sack do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, I'd be such a better parent if I was
seven feet tall. Well, uh and a billionaire. Right, there's
that
Justin Worsham is with us, host of the Dad Podcast.
Today we're going to be talking about Shaquille O'Neill and
his different rules for girls versus his rules for boys
under his room.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Can he tells CNN how many kids he's got. Oh no,
I didn't look into that.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I did because we I don't know how many kids
he's got. He's got at least six and the steps on.
So he sometimes refers to having six or seven kids.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Whole lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, so, and I don't know the breakdown gender wise,
but multiples of each.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We do know that.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Here's what shocking that I think about that is that
he was born in Newark, New Jersey. Like this to
me seems like a very southern thing. Well, I believe he.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Grew up I mean born in New Jersey, but think
he spent most of his time in the South somewhere.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yonio.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This thing seems like, I said, what does he do?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
He's saying that thank you, Shennon.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
He's saying that if you were a boy at eighteen
years of age, you got to get up out his house.
But if you are a daughter, you could stay there
as long as your heart desires. And he will subsidize
your edge as much as you want, because he feels
he believes in traditional gender roles and that as a man,
it is your job to protect and take care of
your woman. And it's very interesting because personally, right I
(01:13):
like this, and what it made me think of is
that people, at least in my social groups, tend to
get very up in arms about traditional gender roles and
how it has some kind of a negative impact on
society at large, and that somehow it's also damaging to women,
I think in particular.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You tell me if you think, I'll tell you, Like,
my wife would love nothing more than for me to
make enough of a living where she didn't have to
do anything and I could completely take care of her,
like I'm sure that and that's.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How she's wired.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But it's interesting that we seem to have this expectation,
in my opinion, culturally, to be sensitive to people's religious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But in regard to like gender roles, we cannot.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Like, if you expect a woman to be somebody who's like,
You're going to stay and take care of house things
and kid things, and I'm going to take care of
money things that seems to be that now you are
subjecting that woman to a life that she does not want,
even if arguably, like again my wife would sign up,
you probably leave me.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Even if she could she could.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean she could, she absolutely could, she absolutely could.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But it's funny I didn't think of it that way,
just in terms of there are people who choose to
live a t I mean finger quotes traditional lifestyle, but
and they choose to live that way. It's not like
it's imposed upon or or they get married and then
all of the sudden the rules then emerge like oh no, no,
(02:39):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You do not get to have a job.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You do not get to do things other than kick
them shoes off, get fat, get in that kitchen kind
of thing.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Serve me right, Which it's never how it goes, at
least in the ones I've seen.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
That may have been in TV shows from fifty years ago,
but that does not exist.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
No, Like even in my situation, my wife has no
idea what's going on with her finances. I make all
the decision I run stuff by her, but she definitely
doesn't want to know.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
She doesn't want to be involved.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
But I the way I process that is that mean
that I just have to be aware of what she
wants and make sure she gets it as much as
I humanly can. She gets far more of what she
wants than I do, and so I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't mean that.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Am I accidentally slipping this some kind of like couple
seraphin or this crap.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I hate it when I step in stuff here.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I'm staying out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Smart. Gary's like, I wish I could. You guys are
just leave and I'll just say her talk to listeners myself, let.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Them worship family Christmas card and I don't want to
be cut off that list.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But the different, but it is different.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I mean, the idea, the prospect for women now is
vastly different than it was even thirty years ago whatever,
or when we were here, my own mom felt like
she could not go get a career.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
She felt like her job was to just could be a.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Nurse or a teacher, you know kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Those were the two avenues. Yeah, and now I mean,
my daughter is studying stuff. I don't even know how
to describe the Nobel Prize in terms of her chemistry
and physical not physical organic chemistry specifically, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't understand it. I would never.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
See in your mom's day and age, she would your
daughter's what twenty three, she'd be married and having kids
and there would be no time.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
For the lab.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's you're right. My mom was married by the time
she was ninety.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The time change tables have changed. So what does that mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So women now are gonna do all the things because
we've been shown it can be done. You can't have
a career, you can't have kids. You can do all
the things. It's just you got to move the slide moves.
So you're gonna be doing You're gonna be focused on
your career until you're thirty, and then you're gonna make
kids and get married and everything just gets shifted. And
that's why people are having babies later, right because of women.
(04:59):
And they're just decision to work and not to jump
into the traditional lifestyle right away. They can still do it.
I think there's a lot of women that want both.
They want to have the career and then they want
to be able to stay home take care of their
kids and have their husband take care of things when
it's his time to take care of everything.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, and what's interesting to me is also like how
long it's taken for the pendulum to kind of shift,
because for years I've been coming in here talking about how, yes,
it's a growing population of stay at home dads or
dads that are helping out more, but across the board,
dads are not doing enough in the home. They're not
doing enough of the cleaning and the cooking and the
(05:36):
taking care of the kids. Right, Like, you can't just
have that traditional role as a dad anymore, where you
just like I go make money, I come home, I
drink my Tom Collins and then the kids prepare their
speeches of what their day was, like let's leave it
to beaver, Like.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think people still do that, you think so, Yeah,
I used to drink Collins mix, Oh just clean, just Colins.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I loved a vodka Collins. That was a good drink.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
We'll come back or justin marshallall were we go, We're drinking.
Now we've seen this trailer yet I have not. All
the toys are terrified because the kid gets a tablet.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh. I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I love the I mean it's probably about ten fifteen
years too late, but I love the story and I
love the idea of it. The idea of reducing screen
time for kids is something that we've advocated for years
on this show. At the beginning, it was simply because
kids were rude in restaurants. I mean, if you go
(06:34):
to a restaurant and a kid's on a tablet, it's
always way too loud or you're, you know, robbing the
kid at the ability to understand social cues about when
to pipe down, when to speak up, when to be
heard from, and when to just be cute. And there
are parents now trying to reduce their kids screen time. Yeah,
and my issue with it is the is using it
as a pacifier. The bigger to me, this is me
(06:58):
interpreting what I've talked to an expert since Seen and
Like research is that the population of children is growing
with an inability to deal with negative experiences because they've
always got something to distract them. And this is pronounce
his name correctly, Jason Nagata. He's an associate professor of
pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, and he
(07:19):
was talking about the American Academy Pediatrics recommends that parents
create a family media use plan, which is very much
like a technology contract, I would imagine, and what they
talk about, there's this family that he talks about. What
they did was they noticed their kids were using it
a lot, and so I like the way they sat
down with them, And all of the experts I've ever
talked to would agree with this, as they said, Hey,
(07:40):
we have learned something that you using this tablet so
much is not a good thing for you.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So we're gonna we have to rain this back.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
And what I like about that is it's not like
parents coming in having to say, like we are saying
this is not okay, because that implies I think, to
a kid, you have done something wrong as a child,
which is not the message. I like that they're kind
of owning up, like this is how you handle things
when you find that you have a misunderstanding about them.
And then they say we wean them off of And
there was resistance, but eventually life in general just improved
(08:11):
when they had less of this distraction.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I guess it would be similar to telling a kid, hey,
I know I've been feeding you you who for the
last you know, every night for the last four weeks,
and I realized that's not good for you. Yeah, because
you can't you can't sleep and your guts don't work
no more, or whatever happens to a kid who has
four weeks worth of you who But the idea of
(08:38):
what do you call it, of logically explaining something to
kids like this is a little bit lost on me.
Oh really, well, only because I guess it would depend
on the age and wiscrapoint what level they are in
terms of that, of their comprehension of that. But it
is something to say, hey, I mean the idea that
you would scold them without really an explanation, right, would probably.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think coming in and saying you are on your
screen too much, so we have to minimize that. I think,
like I'm also even looking at it. My older son
especially has started to like moments where I've had of
shorter fuse. He calls me on it, like holds up
a mirror to He's like, damn, but everything.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, like you good? And I don't like it. I'll
be honest, I do not like it. I like being
called out.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I prefer the much more compliant four year old version
of him, right, the smaller.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I have enough introspection going on in my life. I
think we all can agree. I don't need himpiling it on.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Okay guy, But but yeah, it's it's talking to them
and saying like this is we have to we have
to change this, and we have to do it better
because and I talk about it all the time on here.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Is that you know, the more kids use social media,
the more likely they are to become depressed. The thing
I want to add to that is that I just
I think that as parents, and I would love myself
into this.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think I've started to be guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But don't notice any time or I've gone all the
way through where you see something like this and mean
and say and interpret it to mean no.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Social media whatsoever. You can never use a tablet. And
that's not the message either.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
What we're really talking about in all things is moderation, right,
and you have to look at your kid and what
they can and can't handle.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But it's hard when the companies are wired to get
your kid addicted.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Moderation is very tough.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, it's almost think of alcohol this way, where there's
certain advertisements about alcohol that make it sound fun and
it's exciting, and there's always pool parties and beer is
great for you and all that sort of suff you
just went hiking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Here's a michelob ultra.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But then there has to be an aspect of it
as you as an adult of somebody who's going to
do this, which in this case is drink beer. You
have to know that the negative, what the negatives are
that would be associated with it, Like you have to
be fully informed about it so that you can make
that decision. Kids, I don't think are fully informed about
If I'm on my screen, whatever kind of screen it is,
(10:55):
for seven hours a day, if that's the thing that
is taking up most of my time, I don't have
much I don't have any ability to learn about the
potential negatives of it because all my time is sucked
into this one thing.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And I think, I think the people who get really
hard up about technology and screen time also seem to
not have a different approach when it comes to like nutrition, Right,
they talk about moderation for sweets, but they don't they
you know what I mean? Like they feel like they
and I don't know because here to your point, Shannon,
do you think that when you become a certain age
you suddenly have the ability to like develop the discipline
(11:29):
that you needed?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Are you right? Because what I learned and my two kids.
That was very like my two kids.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
One kid, for a moment in his life, he felt
like Instagram was a distraction, so he just deleted off
his phone. I didn't even know he did it. He
didn't make a proclamation that he did it. He didn't
do anything like that. But my younger son, it like you,
he's different. You have to regulate those things for him.
And I've learned that because I've never regulated their screen
time because I hope that it would teach them the
(11:57):
self discipline that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
They would start to see the pitfall. And he has.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
My younger son, his grades have fallen because he prioritized
playing video games and now I take the video games
away and he's getting his grades better. And he but
he asked me just this week, he was like, I've
made the effort. Can I now have games back? And
I was like no, and I'm sorry, but that's not
how life works.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I love that argument. I've made the effort.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And that's very much as mother, as much as I
love ear well.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And that goes full circle to treating your kids. You know,
different kids receive different treatment. That's exactly what Shaq taught us. Yeah,
what would Shack do? What would Sack do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, I'd be such a better parent if I was
seven feet tall. Well, uh and a billionaire. Right, there's
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