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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You might have seen the i'll say the kerfuffle regarding
Saturday Night Live. There was an issue of what was
called equal time regarding Kamala Harris's appearance. Let me just
get into what equal time is and equal time is
the understanding the rule I should say by the FCC
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which says that each candidate should have no less of
an opportunity to be heard or seen on the public
broadcasting airwaves.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The SEC seeks to ensure that no legally qualified candidate
for office is unfairly given less access to the airwaves
outside of bonafied news exemptions than their opponent. Equal opportunities
generally means providing comparable time and placement to opposing candidates,
but does not require a station to provide opposed candidates
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with programs identical to the initiating candidate. Kamala Harris appeared
on Saturday Night Live. Obviously that's NBC will play that
for you. The whole bit was about two minutes long.
There was one of the FCC members I think they're five,
and a Trump appointee specifically, so there's that was saying
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that this was a violation of equal time. Donald Trump
should have been given equal time. Yes and no. Yes,
if you want to go by the strict interpretation. Because
NBC is a broadcast outlet, this equal time does not
apply to cable. So if you say, well, what about
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all the times did Donald Trump went on you know,
Fox and Friends, that's cable. Cable's a private signal, NBC, ABC, CBS,
those are broadcast stations. They're actually broadcasting and they use
the public airways. So the FCC is with respect to that,
governs equal time for that. So and the FCC and
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equal time does not apply to the internet social media.
So just because Joe Rogan had on Donald Trump doesn't
mean that Kamala Harris can say, hey, wait what about
about equal time? Now there is a question, or the
question could be asked, well, what about when Donald Trump
came on KFI. If the Harris campaign went to KFI
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and said, hey, I heard Donald Trump was on for
a half hour, John Cobel, we want equal time, then
KFI would probably have to extend that invitation. I don't
think that the Harris campaign wanted to come on KFI.
So it was a moot point. But as far as
equal time, that's where it begins and ends. It has
to be a broadcast station, radio, television, not cable, not
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social media.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And yeah, so it doesn't apply even if it's a
news joke or not a news joke. But even if
it's like a satire, it doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The fact that she appeared makes it an equal time
issue or could be. You know, it could be looked upon.
It wasn't litigated, so we'll never know. NBC ultimately said, here,
Donald Trump, here's you can have a minute and a half,
will air your your ad or whatever during Sunday Night Football.
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Going back to what I was saying about equal time,
it does not have to be the same show, doesn't
have to be Saturday Night Live. It has to do
with the outlet, which is NBC. So they gave him
time on NBC. It doesn't have to be Saturday Night Live.
Now Saturday Night Live is said, hey, we've extended an
invitation of Donald Trump. He declined, I don't know if
that's true or not. I'm just saying that's what Saturday
Night Live said. But NBC said, look, effort, here's a
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minute and a half, will air your ad will play
it on Sunday Night Football. They did last night twice.
If I'm not mistaken. Here is the Kamala Harris bit
which led to the controversy.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
This is it the last campaign stop in Pennsylvania. Gosh,
I just I wish I could talk to someone who's
been in my shoes. You know, a black South Asian
woman running for president, preferably from the Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's Maya Rudolph talking as Kamala Harris.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
You a new boath sister. It's nice to see you, Kamala.
It is nice to see you, Kamala. And I'm just
here to remind you you got this because you can
do something your opponent cannot do. You can open doors.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I see it from that.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They like to be a garbage truck, right.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't really.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Laugh like that, do I?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
A little bit?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Not?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Kamala, take my Pamela. The American people want to stop
the chaos.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And end the dramaa.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
With a cool new step Mamala, kick backing our Pajamala's
and watch a rum Kamala.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Like legally Blondola and start decorating for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Follow lalaha, because what do we always say, keep Kamala
and carry on.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Alah.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We know each other so well.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We even finish each other's belief in the promise of America.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Right now, come on, let's.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Bring it in.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I gotta tell myself something over here. Come ray, I'm
going to vote for us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Great.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Any chance you are registered in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Nope, I am not.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Well, it was worth a shot in.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Live from New York. Okay, that's the Saturday Night Live
skit that was responded to by a member of the SCC.
And so this is what the Trump campaign offered to
be played during Sunday Night Football. And I think they
played it at the beginning in the end, near the
end of the broadcast.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Hello to our great sports fans, and I hope you
haven't a fantastic time. We're two days away from the
most important election in the history of our country. We've
got to save our country and in need saving. It's
in very bad shape. The worst economic numbers in generations
were just announced two days ago.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Wait a minute, and I thought the Great Recession was
like twenty ten. How could it?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Never mind, generations were just announced two days ago. We're
losing jobs, We're losing everything, including viability, we're gonna end
up in a depression based on what's been happening. We've
never seen anything like it, at least for the last
forty years. We have to straighten down.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The Great Recession was like twenty ten. I lived through it.
I remember it. Okay, it was really bad. Banks were
like going all to hell. People were losing their houses.
I remember, I was. I was alive for that. Weren't you, Twala,
weren't you alive for that? Yeah? Okay, I was just
wondering because this doesn't seem accurate.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
We've never seen anything like it, at least for the
last forty years.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Forty years ago. So that's nineteen eighty four. Is that
forty years ago? Yeah, eighty four. I could have sworn
it was like fourteen years ago.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
We've never seen anything like it, at least for the
last forty years. We have to straighten out our country.
We have to close our borders, we have to lower
our taxes, we have to get rid of inflation. And
we're going to do it. Just remember Kamala and her
friends broke it. I'll fetch it. Most important election and
the history.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Of our country. Go and vote. Look, whether you vote
from or not what he said there was factually untrue,
but it was also during football. Well, no, no, well,
I will say this, NFL viewership audience skews right. So
that and also it's a huge audience NFL football ratings.
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Regardless of what you think about NFL, it still pulls
in people. So there was a verifiable audience who saw No.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I dig that, but it's such a downer while watching
the game.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Look, this is what they this is what they chose
to submit, and that's what people got to see. It's
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When we come back, we have to talk about these
presidential endorsements, whether they matter at all, or why you
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might be hearing more of them this year than in
previous election cycles. Will tell you why.
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Ko kfis Later with bo Kelly. We're Live everywhere the
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the legacy of Quincy Jones. That's one of my favorite
Frank Sinatra songs. But if you don't know your music,
you may not know that Quincy Jones produced that along
with the Count Basie Orchestra. Something else which has been
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going on with respect to the election is another day,
another presidential endorsement, and it seems like they're more now
than ever before, especially when it comes to celebrities, be
it actors, be it musicians, be it athletes. Everyone seems
to be endorsing a presidential candidate, not Senate, not governor,
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not mayor. It's not sexy enough, it's got to be president.
Harrison Ford Han Solo has endorsed Kamala Harris, Lady Gaga
as well. Lady Gaga was appearing with Kamala Harris today
and I'm not one to believe that an endorsement on
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Monday night before presidential election is going to garner anyone
any more votes, but it's a good entry point into
the conversations like why are there so many entertainers dipping
their toe into this pool? I would say it goes
all the way back to Bill Clinton, and that's how
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it kind of started, and then with the candidacy of
Donald Trump it became supersized. But hear me out going
back to Bill Clinton, and if you're not old enough
to remember, it used to be it was frowned upon
when presidential candidates would do anything that wasn't a part
of legacy media or traditional media, be it newspapers, news programs,
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and back then you were not allowed to just phone
in an interview like they say phoning it in. That
goes back to you'd actually have to have to show
up for a presidential interview. You didn't have candidates calling
in to meet the press or crossfire or sixty minutes.
All of those were sitting down expectations. You have to
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sit down for the interview. That change, and it started
to change with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton went on the
Arcinio Hall Show, which is a late night television show
in the early nineties, and it was very popular. But
campaigns started to realize that there was an overlooked voting
segment younger people. Younger people Historically, when I say younger people,
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you know late teens, early twenties, maybe even early thirties.
They were not usually the group that was mobilized to
go to the polls. Voters tended to be older. The
older you got, the more consistently you voted. And the
people and me during Bill Clinton, you know, we were
the young people. We were the gen xers, we were
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the young kids on the block. We were the least
likely to vote in numbers. Well, the Clinton campaign said, well,
let's see if we can reverse that or add to
our coalition and doing non traditional media. And I didn't
have time to pull up the clip, but you can
pull up the clip of Bill Clinton on our Senior
Hall Show and actually playing saxophone with the band, and
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that I think revolutionized how campaigning was approached. Where there're
these these voting segments which are not being utilized. They're
not being approached, they're not spending enough money in time
with them to cultivate because there are two things. You
want to cultivate that voting base for that particular election
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and also train them to consistently vote every single election.
And I think about there was any one moment that
I thought that politicians started to become more entertainers and
rock stars. It was that particular moment was JFKF star. Yes,
did he hang out with celebrities, yes, but general society
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didn't look upon the president as a part of Hollywood
in the way that it's the case now. Now you
have someone like Donald Trump who came from Hollywood. He
was best known for a TV show, and I think
that supersize and I would say, put the whole Hollywood
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entertainment focus on politics on steroids, and I don't think
we'll ever go back. But since that time, entertainers high
and low have tried to attach themselves and affixed themselves
to politics. I don't think it's any real deep commitment.
You have a lot of artists. The only time you
hear from them in a political sense is when they
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want to attach themselves to a presidential candidate or a president,
because now it's sexy, and now presidents are looked on
as celebrities in many aspects. You have Kamala Harris going
on SNL. Let's not forget Donald Trump hosted SNL back
in twenty fifteen, and I think one other occasion. Now
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we just kind of expected. We have candidates sitting down
on podcasts, which was thought to be beneath presidential candidates
in the last election cycle. So if you look at
these endorsements, the only thing they have in common is
celebrity wants to be near celebrities. And if you look
at the different endorsers, I don't know if you saw this.
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The Avengers, Marvel's Avengers, they did a group endorsement on
social media of Kamala Harris, and I'm just going through
the Kamala Harris ones and then I'll go into the
Donald Trump ones. You had Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson
doing a group where they got all the adventures together,
most of them from Don Cheeto, Robert Downey Junior, Mark Ruffalo,
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and Paul Bettany who played vision and they did a
group endorsement of Kamala Harris. That just tells you some
of the biggest movie stars in the world are getting
into this now. Whether that actually changes someone's vote, I
don't know, but the thinking is you're reaching people that
you didn't normally reach in previous elections. We all know
about Taylor Swift, and that is one endorsement that I
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think did make a difference. For one reason, Kamala Harris
was able to reach millions of younger voters which were
not in her original demographic. Taylor Swift, originally being a
country singer, was able to reach young girls of different
ethnicities that probably would not have been exposed to Kamala
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Harris as quickly or usually given previous political cycles, so
that one might have made a difference as far as
exposure for a political candidate who was only on the
scene in a presidential sense for about one hundred days.
And Taylor swiftrobably had a lot to do with getting
her name, Kamala Harris's name out there in a way
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that other entertainers probably would have had no impact. There's
Donald schwartzendeg Or, Jennifer Lopez with Donna of course, Beyonce,
Bruce Springsteen, Eminem and with Donald Trump. You know Elon Musk,
who also donated seventy five million dollars to a campaign
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super pack. There's hul Cogan. We've seen a lot him
on the campaign trail, including the RNC. Mel Gibson. Did
you see Megan Kelly tonight, which was interesting. I didn't
expect her to actually get out on a campaign trail,
but she was with Donald Trump tonight. We heard about
Dennis Quaid, John Voight, He's been no stranger to presidential politics,
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Jake Paul Kelsey Grammer, and Kid Rock just to name
a few. So all of these celebrities are lending the
power of their name to presidential politics. Me personally, it's strange.
It's really strange. I don't know how many votes it's
actually going to impact, but I think it's more about
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the celebrities trying to elevate themselves than the actual politician
getting something out of it. But I could be wrong,
and we'll find out tomorrow or at least Wednesday, or
maybe Thursday. Well, probably not till Friday, because we're not
going to find out who wins to the presidential election
until probably closer to Thursday. Yeah, probably Thursday. It's Later
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on the iHeartRadio Apple. When we come back, I'll give
you my personal anecdotes of Quincy Jones, who passed away
at the age of ninety one yesterday.
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Before we get out of here, just a few notes
on Quincy Jones, who passed away yesterday at the age
of ninety one. I'm sure everyone is given some sort
of musical retrospective about how he worked with everyone from
Frank Sinatra, toured with Lionelhampton, of course, Michael Jackson and
the Thriller album. That's all the stuff that most people know.
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But I just want to give just a couple of
anecdotes about the guy that I had run into more
than a few times in the course of both my
music and also radio career. In the music industry, there
was no bigger name. I think he had won maybe
twenty eight Grammy Awards, but if you looked at his discography,
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it was for just about every genre, every single one.
There was no bigger name in music. There was no
one who was more well respected. Of course, he was
the guiding force behind We Are the World in nineteen
eighty five, the USA for Africa, and so many music
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projects across genres. But the guy that I ran into
was probably far more humble than he really needed to be.
It was Quincy frickin' Jones, and anytime he ran into him,
he usually had time to talk. He usually was interested
in you, what are you doing, What is it you
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want to do in the business. He was very quick
to give just some general advice, Hey, you should possibly
consider this or pursue that. He was a walking encyclopedia
of course of music. And he started out For people
who don't know, he started out as a horn player
or trumpet players they call it, and that was his
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first instrument, and that was his preferred instrument. But he
developed a brain aneurysm and almost died. And the doctor said,
if you continue to play the trumpet, and if you
know anything about playing the instrument, they call it the armbusher,
where you press your lips against the instrument to make
the sound and it puts pressure on your head. And
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the warned him, if you continue to play the trumpet,
it'll probably kill you. And so he branched out into
arranging and doing other things in the music business. But
he always had time, at least when I ran into him.
And here's something else that is probably impolitic to say,
and probably impolite to say so soon after his passing,
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But Quincy Jones loved two things, or actually more than
two things. If you've ever spent any time around him,
you knew that he loved the ladies, ones especially much
much younger than him, And he loved the cocktail. And
they were probably at the same time. There was never
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a time in which I was around Quincy Jones, and
I've been around him more than a handful in which
he did not have one or more beautiful young women
around him, usually fifty years his junior, and or a
drink in his hand. My funniest moment with him. I
wasn't physically with him. I had booked him for a
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radio show I was working as a producer and the
host had I would say the bad idea to try
to get Quincy Jones on the morning after the Grammys.
Bad idea. I gotta know what was his preferred cocktail?
Now that I don't know, I know he drank dark liquor.
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I don't know what his preferred cocktail. I feel like
I must have a toast to him too. Yeah, he
I'm pretty sure he was a whiskey or rum guy,
because it was it was always dark liquor that I
saw him with. Okay, sorry to derail you. No, you
didn't derail me at all. But I remember when I
was on the phone talking to him, It's like, and
he can get a little blue with the with the language.
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It's like, you efan want me to get on the
phone for an interview at eight in the morning after
the Grammys. You know I'm going to be hungover what
he meant to say. You know it was going to
be drunk, because he was still drunk. He's still drunk
morning drunk. He did the interview, surprisingly enough, he was
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slurring every word. He got to new point where like,
I don't know if we can use this on the
air because it was a pre taped, pre recorded interview.
But he was talking about the Grammys, he was talking
about his career, but he was he was you could
tell he was still drunk as a skunk. I admire
that drunk as a skunk. But he warned us, it's like,
it's not gonna be a good idea. Now, what would
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you expect? And we had to first call his either
as a system or whatever the contact was, to physically
go wake him up, because he was not going to
get out of his bed on his own. And he
stumbled to the phone and he did the interview. It
was it was barely passable, but he was a man
of his word. And I'm quite sure I could dig
up the interview somewhere if I looked hard enough just
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to listen how bad it was. But it was one
of those things where he always made time. He made
out have been in the best physical shape at the
moment because he loved to drink. Oh that's sporting. You
think Sinatra never showed up loaded for an interview, Come on,
but he was in He had to be in his
late seventies at the time, because this is about maybe
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fourteen years ago, and I know he was drinking until
the end. He was one of those things where're like, look,
if I'm going out, I'm going out plastered. So he
always had a drink in his hand, and he always
had a beautiful young lady or eight on his arm.
So I say that to say, Quincy Jones, for all
of his great achievements, he lived life to the fullest,
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to the very end. He did not get cheated. And
I'm quite sure even though he might have passed yesterday,
he was living the week leaving up to his passing on.
Here's another little anecdote. Stephanie may enjoy this. You know
who his publicist was, No, who is it? Arnold Robinson
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for those who don't know, it's the same publicist as
Eddie Murphy and Artoll. Robinson will never give me the
time of day. I try to book Eddie Murphy and
each time it gets to be a running joke between us,
because I'll email him every year whenever Eddie Murphy has
a project out, it'say, hey, can we get Eddie on?
And he he's always polite. He always immediately responds, but
he never even asks when I'm trying. He just says,
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Eddie's unavailable. But I didn't tell you what Eddie's unavailable.
We want to get Eddie's unavailable, but Eddie's unavailable. How
about Eddie's unavailable. He has never given me anything other
than Eddie's unavailable. And you said he would reply within
like eight minutes or something, right, nothing immediately. It's almost
like an auto responder. I have to be auto responder
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at this point and my email comes up Eddie's unavailable.
Did he give you the same issues with Quincy? Or
was he not with him at the time. I don't
think I ever reached out to him for Quincy. I
try to go through other music in the street, people
like I kind of know one of his daughters, that
kind of thing. Else trying to go through that route
would I wouldn't go through Arnold Robinson. I don't have
any direct connect to Eddie, so that's the only reason
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I would go through Arnold Robinson. But yeah, someone that
love life obviously gave more to all of us than
life gave to him. He will sincerely be missed. But
he was a good dude as far as what he
did for other people up becoming musicians. You know, if
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you saw the movie Ray, you know what he did
for Ray Charles. He was a conscious and conscientious individual.
He cared about the legacy of music and also African
American music art form. There's no way you can listen
to the radio any day and not hear something that
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he touched. It's just not possible. It is not possible.
I'm sorry that he's gone. I knew this time was
going to come, and this is the only thing which
made it difficult for me. I was introduced to Quincy
Jones I want to say, maybe four or five years
old as far as his music, not the person, but
his music. My father introduced me to Quincy Jones. So
I knew everything about Quincy Jones, from his professional history, everything,
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and I thought, today it's like, oh my goodness, Quincy
Jones passed. Let me go tell my father. Oh man, Yeah,
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