September 27, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents: An update on the story of a criminal who seemingly vanished after robbing a 7-Eleven that led to a 12-hour SWAT standoff AND thoughts on the latest act of vandalism against a Waymo… PLUS – A conversation with Actor Emile Hirsch & Director Sean McNamara, who join the program to preview their new film "Bau: Artist at War", which tells “the extraordinary true story of Joseph Bau, a man who defied the darkness of the Holocaust with art, humor, and an unbreakable spirit” AND Mo’ recaps his Q&A with actors Jon Heder and Diedrich Bader at the Footage Fest 20th Anniversary screening of Napoleon Dynamite - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thank God it's Friday, KFI Later with Mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere on YouTube in the iHeartRadio app. We have
a full show tonight, full of movies and fun. At
the bottom of the hour, I'll be joined on the
show by actor Emil Hirsch. You know him as the
star of the movie Speed Racer and the director of
(00:44):
Bow Artist at War. Sean McNamara. You might remember Sean
McNamara directed the movie Reagan, which starred Dennis Quaid. They'll
both be joining me at the bottom of the hour
to talk about the new movie Bow Artist at War.
And also the top of the second hour, I'll joined
by actress Chase Infinity. She's one of the co stars
of the highly anticipated movie One Battle after Another and
(01:09):
that is in theaters right now. It stars Leonardo DiCaprio,
Sean Pan, Tianna Taylor, so many great stars in that movie,
and Chase Infinity will join us. At the top of
the second hour, we have to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.
Next Star and Sinclair Stations are both back in play.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
They are airing Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We'll talk about some of the reasons as to what
led to their collective change. We got the RNA report tonight, Mark,
what's the RONA report about?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I sat through nearly three hours of one battle after
another tonight, and I didn't know you were gonna have
Chase Infinity on. She's terrific in it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
All right, Well, that's even better.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So we'll talk to Chase Infinity at the top of
the second hour, and then we'll have the RONA report
about one battle after another at the bottom of the
second hour, and then we can go in to name
that movie cult classic for all of the third hour.
Sounds like it's going to be a good show tonight.
You can also weigh in on our YouTube video live
stream at mister bo Kelly, Mr m ok E L
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L Y and I want to start off the show
tonight talking about a story we covered earlier in the week.
Do you remember we talked about the seven eleven robbery
and how police had called in swat There was an
arm robber who had barricaded himself inside the seven eleven
and there was a standout for about maybe twelve hours
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or so, and then police went in and realized that
the robber was gone, or so they thought. As it
turns out now there was a business in building two
doors over a pizza place, Broadway Pizza, and it seems
long story short that this guy went.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Up in the ceiling into a shared.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Store well and storage area and hit out for about
twelve hours. How the police did not happen upon him,
I have no idea, but he was hanging out in
that building, and the Broadway Pizza Place evidently left to
open their back door because after the police went in,
they had the flash bangs and the tear gas, and
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you know, it was filled up all the neighboring businesses.
So according to the story, Broadway Pizza had opened its
back door to allow the tear gas to filter out,
and this guy took the opportunity to go in the
back of the pizza place, wait another twelve hours there
into the morning or so, and then robbed the Broadway
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Pizza Place because I guess they left money in the
register and then strolled out.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
How the police missed him, I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
This man has obviously watched inside man there it is
several times.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Several times he was just patient and quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He hung out in a store well, excuse me, a
stairwell and storage area, and like I said, I didn't
know how it was laid out, but there's some shared
space between those businesses, Like if you go to the mall,
there's usually like a common hallway which runs behind all
the sores and then the strip mail mall. It sounds
like it's something similar where you know there's a passageway
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which runs through these businesses.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And he just hung out there. He was just patient.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
He just waited and he was quiet for about twenty
four hours if my math is correct, and got away
with it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But now I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And he ended up then robbing two businesses to seven
eleven and the Broadway Pizza. I don't understand why he
would try to do that because I don't think there's
too much money in either business in either drawer, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Looking at this and what he did and what he accomplished,
I'm willing to bet he did it just to see
if he could. This doesn't sound like someone who did
it because they were harder for money, or they were
high or whatever. This is someone who knew what to do.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't know if I'm not going to say it
was an inside job, but I will say some who
had some degree of knowledge about the businesses and how
it was set up. I'm not saying it was a
former employee or anything like that. I'm saying he knew
where he could hide.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
If need be.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, that wasn't He just happened upon that crossway,
he said, knew about the share. Look, I don't believe
in coincidences at all. This there's some level of knowledge,
some level of awareness of what to do. And this
was a well orchestrated plant. Was like, call whoever you want,
I will be getting away.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Is it practice for something else? I don't know. Was
it pretty lucrative? I seriously doubt it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But it was well planned out, well executed, and he
got away. I would have to wonder where police and
SWAT dropped the ball, because I'm thinking they surrounded the
whole complex, the whole strip mall, whatever, not just the
seven to eleven, even the neighboring businesses.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And according to the story, it says that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Swatt had checked those neighboring businesses, but clearly not too well.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, the man's not invisible, so if.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He was in a storage area or in a crawl space,
they didn't check it. Because they have now on video
walking out of the store now how clear the video is.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is his identity completely hidden?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I'm not sure, but I'm quite sure he didn't make
that mistake after getting everything else right. Yeah, more power
to them, But you know, that's a lot of work
and patience for little payoff.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I would assume, Yeah, a couple hundred dollars if that.
If that, you know, there's not much you can take
from a seven to eleven, and even far less from
a pizza place.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, if he's streaming this, if he's.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Doing it for the kicks, if it was just watching
me get away with this, Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe
there's fifty dollars worth a change in a drawer or something,
you know, just so he could make change for customers.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You wouldn't leave a lot of money in the register,
I'm assuming.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, look, we live in a society where kids
are literally walking into the middle of a street takeover
where they're doing, donus. They're walking into the middle playing
live action Frogger with cars, oftentimes getting hit just four likes.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I don't I don't get. I assume it's a
younger person, you know, I don't get young people today.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's not our generation. No, no, me you Mark, you know,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
But if I'm gonna rob a place, it's gonna be
a one and done.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's gonna be one of those life changing jobs. It's
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If I'm gonna do this, I will not have to
worry about anything for the foreseeable future. And that means
it's gotta be at least seven figures at least.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So you're like in that Robert de Naro, val Kilm
or Casino.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I'm like the Italian. Yeah, if I'm gonna do it,
let's go all the way. And even if I get caught,
it's club fed.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If you get caught arm robbery is seven eleven, that's
state penitentiary.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, but mo, you know why kids rob a pizza
place because it's there hungry for all the dough.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Did I not see that coming? I already had a
headache and you made it worse. You're welcome, Happy Friday.
Don't don't laugh at that, Talla to get on. That
was Tony's like, what the punny was rich and thick?
(08:34):
Oh man, your dad, come on, come on. Wow, the
show was going so well, it was going so well. Wow,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And then Mark Ronner had to say that, and Tony
had to give him a rim shot and Twala was
offering fake laughter.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, that was a hearty guffa. That was real anarchy.
We have anarchy tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Let's talk about way Moo being set on fire. That'll
make me feel a little bit better when we come back.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
We live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. And
I didn't have the traditional Weimo intro because this is
not Weymo's fault. It's not about the failings of Weimo.
It's more about the failures of society. And when weimo
had introduced itself, or the whole idea of autonomous vehicles
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was becoming more and more prevalent, I made the point, Yeah,
these cars are going to be a target. They're going
to be vandalized, they're going to be messed with, they're
going to be set on fire. And sure enough, here's
another example of it, as a Weimo was set on
fire from inside the car in mar Vista early this morning.
And the question I have, because it's not exactly clear
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how the person got in the waymow and correct me
if I'm wrong, Tuala, If you're not a rider, the
doors are locked, yes, I thought so. I don't know
if he caught the door as someone was getting out.
I assume a see he I'm just saying that, yeah,
or or was it something else? And let's not forget
Wailmos have fifty eleven cameras on them.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
They have cameras every single inch of the car. That
is how they're able to safely traverse the roads. So
whoever this was, he was caught on the outside and
on the inside, all right, and way mold the system itself.
They're also connected to a almost nationwide network that is
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picking up cameras and satellites all those So this individual
gotten in had his face covered. Proms you walk across
the street or wherever words you were going, they're going
to find you. From my understanding everything I've researched, the
time of which someone would get out the car, it
does not necessarily allow a lot of time for someone
else to get in.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, I e.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The story we read maybe three or four months ago
where someone had gotten out the car and was unloading
the trunk and then before they could get the rest
of their bags, the trunk locks and the cars gone.
So I'm thinking this is some jackalobe who ordered a
way More for the specific purpose of pulling this prank.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It happened in Marvista, and I know that area.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, it's it's you know you have It's not a
bad area, but it's bad adjacent you know, like one
street this way, one street that way. It get kind
of sketchy. So that doesn't surprise me. And I said before,
if you're in a Culver City area and mar Vista
neighbors Culver City, you see waymos everywhere, the west side
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mar Vista, Culver City, Santa Monica, even now in Inglewood
you will see waybos absolutely everywhere. My question is is
this going to be a one time thing or is
this going to be a regular occurrence where these vehicles
are going to be vandalized?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
This is probably I mean, look, there aren't that many
people who've got it in for way Mo.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
If this kid I do, I just wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, he may be, you know, a Uber driver
who's aware that Uber's about to be out of business,
But again that has nothing to do with Waymo. The
company that's taking over self driving technology with Uber.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's not Waywell that's not the way. But you're trying
to make sense out of nonsense.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying I doubt this is
gonna be something that we see often enough, because I
believe that the technology itself will start to upgrade security
measures that if you pull something like this, that may
be the last thing you do in life. Because if
the cars then start locking once you try to vandalize, well,
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that's your ass.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Then there's a question of if it starts to lock
when you vandalize, do you put possibly a writer in
jeopardy if there's someone in the car if you try
to vandalize the car and then the.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Car and someone else. I mean, if it would be
really tough for you. If I'm in a way I
say you can break you can break the window. I
don't think it's like no no, no, yeah, but if
you break the window with it, I'm getting out through
the broken window. I mean, it's if you get in
the car while I'm in the car, you best half
hands on you because because I'm gonna put pause on you.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I mean, there's a lot of what if that could
go into this, I hope not. But again, we've got
at least four other companies right now, right now actively
getting ready to launch. I know Elon's got hit and
they've actually worked out a lot of the kinks with
the Tesla robo taxis that have been in Vegas and
in Arizona. They've been working day and night to get
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the kinks out there, so they're trying to now span that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh the other company that I can't remember the name
of them, I think went out of business.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, Cruise is out of business, but there's another company
that has been testing and is actively working to get
a nationwide support and push.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it's it's it's one of those. That's why I
said I don't think this is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Going to be the norm, because there's gonna be too
many cars out there from different companies.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well the norm.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
As always, people push back against progress, people push back
against the idea of technology possibly taking jobs, and we
talk about this all the time. The eventuality is yes,
Waimo and self driving technology is going to end cab
drivers as we know them. It's going to end truck
drivers as we know that. Oh my god, I forgot
to I don't know how I forgot this. I was
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on the freeway. I was on the one to eighteen.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
A truck was behind me, a semi truck, all digital,
all fancy. There was no driver in the driver's seat.
There was a guy in the passenger seat and looked
like at the clipbar they were probably I was like,
oh my god, there is a truck behind me with
no driver.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well, I mean, look, we know that the Waimo has
a little minivans now and it's only a matter of
time before they start doing freeway. It's probably the same technology.
It's just a bigger vehicle. I mean, it was a
semi hitout large load. I don't know if there's anything
in it. I just know this was a semi truck
that was no one in the driver's seat. There's a
guy in the pastor of the seat, looked like he
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was and he was looking over at the past look
like he was taking notes or whatever. But I'm like,
is this the test pilot, most amazing thing I'd ever seen?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it kept getting close to my car, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm about to die.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But it didn't know this This is the future that
I'm saying anything that required a driver today probably will
not have a driver tomorrow, as in five years from now.
You know, this is just the eventuality, this is the likelihood,
and society is going to push back because people will
be losing jobs along the way.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm not rooting for it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'm just saying if you're a student of history, you
understand how a lot of this goes. People have pushed
it against back, against technology since there's been technology, but
now it's moving at such an accelerated rate. People may
not be ready for the amount of changes. You know,
we were We're still getting used to the idea of
ride share and uber lyft, what have you much less
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a ride share with with no driver at all. This
world is changing very very very quickly. It's later with
mo Kelly. When we come back, We're gonna have one
of our first movie interviews tonight. We're gonna talk to
actor Emil Hirsh, who I loved in Speed Racer and
also the director of the new film Bow Artists at War,
Sean McNamara. And you may know Sean McNamara from his
(16:32):
recent movie Reagan, which starred Dennis Quaid. So we're gonna
talk about Bow Artists at war with both of them
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Kelly six.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Boo Artist at War. It's now in theaters and based
on the true story of Joseph and Rebecca Boo, whose
wedding took place in the Plus Show concentration camp during
World War two. Bow Artista War is part love story,
of course, part war drama, and even part Espiona's tale.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh I do not speak German. You can kiss my
ass as you like.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You did this?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
This my deposition of yours.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Name, Joseph bow Well, yeah, you're a new map maker commandant,
so then you can be your service a part for you.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Is it possible to change my seed?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
How does this work? I'm waiting for the sunshine. Looks
like you might have a problem.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Maybe you can be more sunshine.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I met a most wonderful woman being more sunshine.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Only you yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You to find something like that in a place like.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
This, and.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I see you. You take care of everybody, but who
takes care of you? Who?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
If we do our work, maybe we can survive this
madness and tell our story.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Rebecat however longer forever is share them with me. I'm
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just trying to give people hope.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
If you want.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Justice, you're going to have to survive.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Don't let they're with.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Me count There's some things that they can't take from us.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Laughter, joy, Our spirits.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Its stars.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Emil Hirsch is Joseph Bao, who not only finds love
in the midst of despair and imprisonment, but uses his
artistic skills to help hundreds escape. Emil Hirsch joins me
now on the show, Emil, A pleasure to meet you
this evening.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Nice to meet you, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And also Bow Artist That War is directed by Sean McNamara,
who also joins me. Sean, thank you so much for
coming on this evening.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Sean. Let me start with you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We last heard from you as the director of the
movie Reagan, starring Dennis Quaid. I think it's fair to
say you thrive with character driven movies. What drew you
to tell this story, Boo Artist That War?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Well, you got it right. Character driven movies that are inspirational.
And when I read this movie, I was just blown
away by this true life person who was a jokester.
He was funny, he could make people laugh in the
darkest of times, and we all need that. And at
the same time time he was saving lives, forging passports.
And then he found the love of his life in
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a concentration camp, Rebecca, and he just fell in love
with her, and somehow they managed to get married. If
you saw Schindler's List, there was a small part of
two people getting married in the plash Au barracks, and
that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Emil A similar question to you. You have such an
eclectic body of work, from starring in speed Race or
to co starring and Loan Survivor to your voluminous voice
acting work. What inspires you in choosing these projects?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I think characters that I think are challenging, and in
the case of Joseph Bao and Boo artistic war, playing
a character that has qualities that I just truly admire,
looking at the world like the glass is half full
and not half empty. I think that having that kind
of hope and courage and resilience and able to deal
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with the darkest of times with love and light and laughter,
those are qualities that I should have more in my
own life and to be able to walk a more
perfect Path is something that I think is inspiring.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Take me into Bow Artist at War. It's subtagline that
it is the greatest love story of the twentieth century.
But how did you go about balancing the delicate nature
of a love story against the harsh backdrop of the
genocide of the Holocaust.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Well, what I did was just follow the real story.
There was a screenplay, but it was based on a
book written by Joseph Boo, and Joseph Bow outlines what
happened to him before the war, becoming an artist, becoming
a successful artist, and then you know, first getting thrown
into the ghetto and then putting into the Plaschett concentration camp.
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So I just kind of followed that story. What made
me want to do it was the humor of it.
He was a humorous guy. He was a person who
could make you laugh, and we all need friends like that.
You know, when you're feeling down and you're feeling bad
and somebody just cracks the joke that's totally inappropriate, but
it makes you smile, That makes you laugh, and I
think that releases endorphins in you. And I'm about making
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movies that make you feel something and so then whilst
in there, he's one of the things that kept him
alive is he could draw maps because he was an artist,
and he was a great artist. He could go around
the camp and that gave him a quality that they
had to keep him alive. So he meets outside hit
the love of his life, or Becca Bough, and his
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pickup line was, would you mean my sunshine? Because he
needed the sun to dry his artwork. And I mean,
if you think about that, that's a great first pickup line.
And he falls in love with her and they have
to sneak around and they you know, he has to
dress as a woman to get into the women's bear
because back then they were separated. The men were over here,
the women were over there, and somehow he could get
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snuck over the gate and got in there. So it
was a hidden love and it was so that just
makes it intriguing today. But they really loved each other
and together they were part of the resistance, and they
helped rescue over a thousand people and save their lives,
and those lives have gone on to create millions of
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family members from them and from all those people.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Emil, for those who may not know you are of
German Jewish ancestry. Did anything or what went through your
mind when you were seeing these re enactments of the
atrocities committed during World War Two?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I think just on a human level, just anytime you
see how other human beings are treated or mistreated, it's
upsetting and eye opening and heartbreaking to know that there's
just so much pain and tragedy now and even back then,
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and obviously throughout the course of human history. It's just
there's been so much war and tragedy and sadness. So
knowing that we were playing people that had gone through that,
it was it was also inspiring to know that even
despite those circumstances, we do have these pockets of hope,
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We do have these love stories that actually that worked out.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
And that had.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
You know, you couldn't call it out and out happy ending,
because like, look what we're dealing with, but it was
it was a sort of a rose that grew from
concrete in a way. Their their marriage of Joseph and
Rebecca about even even amidst a concentration camp where he
had to risk his life by sneaking into the women's
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barracks to even get married to me. It's a testament
to to just the human spirit. You know, you can't,
you can't stamp out the good in people.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
My time is run short with you, gentlemen, let me
leave this last question with you. Sean McNamara, director of
about Artist at War. You made mention of Schindler's List,
and that's obviously going to be a likely comparison point
for a story like this. But for you, what is
your yardstick, your measurement as far as whether what you
put on screen met the mark and met the moment?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Well, I think it definitely met the mark. Bow Artist
at War is a story that we need right now
more than ever. When we made it, you know, a
couple of years ago, we were thinking, oh, this is
just a tale of what happened in World War Two,
and it's a cautionary tale so it doesn't happen again.
And then October seventh happened. And then while we were
editing it and getting it ready for today, the world
is turned upside down. So we need people to go
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to the movies and watch Bao Artists at War and
realize what can happen if we don't find a way
to make peace with each other and to find find
a Path Forward.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bow Artist at War is now in theaters.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I want to thank you Neil Hurst and Sean McNamara
for joining me this evening. Many congratulations to you, gentlemen,
and I wish you nothing but success.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Thank you so much, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's Later with Moe Kelly k IF I AM six forty.
We're live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. And when
we come back, we're going to tell you about what
happened last night at Footage Fest and the Napoleon Dynamite
Anniversary where I was joined by the star of Napoleon Dynamite,
John Heater and also Rex Kwondo, Ddrich Bader.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's next.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
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It's Later with mo Kelly live on YouTube and the
iHeartRadio app. And when I say I have the best
job in the world, it's not only being able to
talk to you Monday through Friday from seven to ten.
It's also some of the other things that I get
to do outside the studio, but it's still connected to
what I do here. For example, I was able to
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moderate a discussion on the occasion of the twentieth anniversary
of the release of Napoleon Dynamite. It was about maybe
one hundred and fifty people or so. We had Nick
polio Chini come out, Tiffany Hobbs join me, t Walla
Sharp join me, and we got.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
To see the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They did a screening, a special screening, and then I
was joined at the front of the theater, and this
is at the Cover Theater in Culver City. I was
joined by John Heater, the star of the movie, who
played obviously Napoleon Dynamite, and also Dietrich Bator, who played
Rex Kwondo. I made the point during the Q and
A that Napoleon Dynamite serves a certain purpose as far
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as that coming of age movie dealing with your awkwardness,
but it was for a millennial audience. I made the
comparison for me as a gen xer, that movie for us,
I would say was Revenge of the Nerds. But it
was amazing just doing my research on the movie, how
much of a phenomenon it was and how much was
working against it in the unlikely event that the movie
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would ever come out, much less become a hit. It
was made on like maybe two hundred thousand dollars. Another
two hundred thousand was spent on marketing and promotion, and
it ultimately made forty six million dollars and nothing. You
almost never see anything like that in Hollywood. So sitting
down with heater and also better, you get to really
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learn something about them as people but also as actors
and artists and ddrich Batter. If you haven't seen the movie,
I recommend going seeing it because it was ahead of
the curved many ways. It even had an end credit
scene back in two thousand and five. This is before
Iron Man, this is before the MCU. There's an end
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credit scene which is about five minutes long. And ddre Bader,
one of the stars of the movie until last night,
had never even seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
He didn't even know he didn't know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That it existed, and so he was watching it with us,
seeing it for him at least for the very first time.
I'm still getting audio and video from Nick Polochanny. We'll
be posting it at mister Mokelly on my very social
media over the weekend. But here's just a little bit
of what it sounded like when I got to speak
to these gentlemen.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
There is this BYU connection. You went to BYU. The
filmmakers went to BYU. You were just out of school.
If I have this correct, how did this project come
to your attention?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I was still in school when we shot this, actually
I was, so it all started.
Speaker 10 (29:44):
Really it was two thousand and one, was still I
was in college then. Jared and I, Jared has and
I were from We're kind of friends. We knew each
other a little bit through classes. We were in a
couple of classes together, and he comes to me one
day with a short script. It was just a seven
page script for short for his class assignment that says,
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John Wannatt, you read this, tell me what you think.
And I knew I was like before that happened. I
just again the few classes I had with him, I
just knew this guy was funny and I knew that
he had a It's.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Just a short clip, but we'll have more. But it
was a really good evening, and it was one of
those things where it's nice to be able to talk
about movies and then talk about movies with the people
who are in the movies that you're always talking about
and to. And if you're not familiar with John Heater
he was also in Blades of Glory, the bench Warmers.
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He's done a lot of work, and he's someone who
really never saw himself as a Hollywood person or a
person who was going to be a movie star. He
did this basically as a favor for a friend, and
as I was told, he was paid like a thousand
dollar dollars for it. Ddrich Bata was paid five thousand
dollars for his one day shoot for rex Kwondo and
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the whole movie shoot was twenty two days long. And
then the rest, they say, is history. But John Heater
was not trying to be a movie star. In fact,
he was a Mormon missionary in Japan, speaks fluent Japanese,
and he thought that was going to be the direction
of his life. But instead this movie took on a
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life of its own. And you know, now we all
celebrate that movie some twenty years later. I've seen it
like five times, and each time I see it, I
noticed something different about it, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's it's a strange movie.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's so different, and you wouldn't think that it would
ever have a chance at being an actual hit or
a cult classic, which it is, but it is all
that and more so. If you check out our social
media this weekend. It's not up yet, we're still uploading it.
You'll be able to see much, if not all, of
the conversation I had with John Heater and also Dietrich
Bator talking about the magnificence of Napoleon Dynamite and yes,
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we covered whether there will ever be a sequel and more.
Kf I Am six forty later with bo Kelly. We're
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App KSI and kost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County
more stimulating talk
Thank God it's Friday, KFI Later with Mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere on YouTube in the iHeartRadio app. We have
a full show tonight, full of movies and fun. At
the bottom of the hour, I'll be joined on the
show by actor Emil Hirsch. You know him as the
star of the movie Speed Racer and the director of
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Bow Artist at War. Sean McNamara. You might remember Sean
McNamara directed the movie Reagan, which starred Dennis Quaid. They'll
both be joining me at the bottom of the hour
to talk about the new movie Bow Artist at War.
And also the top of the second hour, I'll joined
by actress Chase Infinity. She's one of the co stars
of the highly anticipated movie One Battle after Another and
(01:09):
that is in theaters right now. It stars Leonardo DiCaprio,
Sean Pan, Tianna Taylor, so many great stars in that movie,
and Chase Infinity will join us. At the top of
the second hour, we have to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.
Next Star and Sinclair Stations are both back in play.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
They are airing Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We'll talk about some of the reasons as to what
led to their collective change. We got the RNA report tonight, Mark,
what's the RONA report about?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I sat through nearly three hours of one battle after
another tonight, and I didn't know you were gonna have
Chase Infinity on. She's terrific in it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
All right, Well, that's even better.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So we'll talk to Chase Infinity at the top of
the second hour, and then we'll have the RONA report
about one battle after another at the bottom of the
second hour, and then we can go in to name
that movie cult classic for all of the third hour.
Sounds like it's going to be a good show tonight.
You can also weigh in on our YouTube video live
stream at mister bo Kelly, Mr m ok E L
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L Y and I want to start off the show
tonight talking about a story we covered earlier in the week.
Do you remember we talked about the seven eleven robbery
and how police had called in swat There was an
arm robber who had barricaded himself inside the seven eleven
and there was a standout for about maybe twelve hours
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or so, and then police went in and realized that
the robber was gone, or so they thought. As it
turns out now there was a business in building two
doors over a pizza place, Broadway Pizza, and it seems
long story short that this guy went.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Up in the ceiling into a shared.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Store well and storage area and hit out for about
twelve hours. How the police did not happen upon him,
I have no idea, but he was hanging out in
that building, and the Broadway Pizza Place evidently left to
open their back door because after the police went in,
they had the flash bangs and the tear gas, and
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you know, it was filled up all the neighboring businesses.
So according to the story, Broadway Pizza had opened its
back door to allow the tear gas to filter out,
and this guy took the opportunity to go in the
back of the pizza place, wait another twelve hours there
into the morning or so, and then robbed the Broadway
(03:35):
Pizza Place because I guess they left money in the
register and then strolled out.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
How the police missed him, I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
This man has obviously watched inside man there it is
several times.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Several times he was just patient and quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He hung out in a store well, excuse me, a
stairwell and storage area, and like I said, I didn't
know how it was laid out, but there's some shared
space between those businesses, Like if you go to the mall,
there's usually like a common hallway which runs behind all
the sores and then the strip mail mall. It sounds
like it's something similar where you know there's a passageway
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which runs through these businesses.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And he just hung out there. He was just patient.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
He just waited and he was quiet for about twenty
four hours if my math is correct, and got away
with it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But now I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And he ended up then robbing two businesses to seven
eleven and the Broadway Pizza. I don't understand why he
would try to do that because I don't think there's
too much money in either business in either drawer, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Looking at this and what he did and what he accomplished,
I'm willing to bet he did it just to see
if he could. This doesn't sound like someone who did
it because they were harder for money, or they were
high or whatever. This is someone who knew what to do.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't know if I'm not going to say it
was an inside job, but I will say some who
had some degree of knowledge about the businesses and how
it was set up. I'm not saying it was a
former employee or anything like that. I'm saying he knew
where he could hide.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
If need be.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, that wasn't He just happened upon that crossway,
he said, knew about the share. Look, I don't believe
in coincidences at all. This there's some level of knowledge,
some level of awareness of what to do. And this
was a well orchestrated plant. Was like, call whoever you want,
I will be getting away.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Is it practice for something else? I don't know. Was
it pretty lucrative? I seriously doubt it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But it was well planned out, well executed, and he
got away. I would have to wonder where police and
SWAT dropped the ball, because I'm thinking they surrounded the
whole complex, the whole strip mall, whatever, not just the
seven to eleven, even the neighboring businesses.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And according to the story, it says that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Swatt had checked those neighboring businesses, but clearly not too well.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, the man's not invisible, so if.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He was in a storage area or in a crawl space,
they didn't check it. Because they have now on video
walking out of the store now how clear the video is.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is his identity completely hidden?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I'm not sure, but I'm quite sure he didn't make
that mistake after getting everything else right. Yeah, more power
to them, But you know, that's a lot of work
and patience for little payoff.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I would assume, Yeah, a couple hundred dollars if that.
If that, you know, there's not much you can take
from a seven to eleven, and even far less from
a pizza place.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, if he's streaming this, if he's.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Doing it for the kicks, if it was just watching
me get away with this, Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe
there's fifty dollars worth a change in a drawer or something,
you know, just so he could make change for customers.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You wouldn't leave a lot of money in the register,
I'm assuming.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, look, we live in a society where kids
are literally walking into the middle of a street takeover
where they're doing, donus. They're walking into the middle playing
live action Frogger with cars, oftentimes getting hit just four likes.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I don't I don't get. I assume it's a
younger person, you know, I don't get young people today.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's not our generation. No, no, me you Mark, you know,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
But if I'm gonna rob a place, it's gonna be
a one and done.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's gonna be one of those life changing jobs. It's
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If I'm gonna do this, I will not have to
worry about anything for the foreseeable future. And that means
it's gotta be at least seven figures at least.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So you're like in that Robert de Naro, val Kilm
or Casino.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I'm like the Italian. Yeah, if I'm gonna do it,
let's go all the way. And even if I get caught,
it's club fed.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If you get caught arm robbery is seven eleven, that's
state penitentiary.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, but mo, you know why kids rob a pizza
place because it's there hungry for all the dough.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Did I not see that coming? I already had a
headache and you made it worse. You're welcome, Happy Friday.
Don't don't laugh at that, Talla to get on. That
was Tony's like, what the punny was rich and thick?
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Oh man, your dad, come on, come on. Wow, the
show was going so well, it was going so well. Wow,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And then Mark Ronner had to say that, and Tony
had to give him a rim shot and Twala was
offering fake laughter.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, that was a hearty guffa. That was real anarchy.
We have anarchy tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Let's talk about way Moo being set on fire. That'll
make me feel a little bit better when we come back.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
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Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
We live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. And
I didn't have the traditional Weimo intro because this is
not Weymo's fault. It's not about the failings of Weimo.
It's more about the failures of society. And when weimo
had introduced itself, or the whole idea of autonomous vehicles
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was becoming more and more prevalent, I made the point, Yeah,
these cars are going to be a target. They're going
to be vandalized, they're going to be messed with, they're
going to be set on fire. And sure enough, here's
another example of it, as a Weimo was set on
fire from inside the car in mar Vista early this morning.
And the question I have, because it's not exactly clear
(10:05):
how the person got in the waymow and correct me
if I'm wrong, Tuala, If you're not a rider, the
doors are locked, yes, I thought so. I don't know
if he caught the door as someone was getting out.
I assume a see he I'm just saying that, yeah,
or or was it something else? And let's not forget
Wailmos have fifty eleven cameras on them.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
They have cameras every single inch of the car. That
is how they're able to safely traverse the roads. So
whoever this was, he was caught on the outside and
on the inside, all right, and way mold the system itself.
They're also connected to a almost nationwide network that is
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picking up cameras and satellites all those So this individual
gotten in had his face covered. Proms you walk across
the street or wherever words you were going, they're going
to find you. From my understanding everything I've researched, the
time of which someone would get out the car, it
does not necessarily allow a lot of time for someone
else to get in.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, I e.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The story we read maybe three or four months ago
where someone had gotten out the car and was unloading
the trunk and then before they could get the rest
of their bags, the trunk locks and the cars gone.
So I'm thinking this is some jackalobe who ordered a
way More for the specific purpose of pulling this prank.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It happened in Marvista, and I know that area.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, it's it's you know you have It's not a
bad area, but it's bad adjacent you know, like one
street this way, one street that way. It get kind
of sketchy. So that doesn't surprise me. And I said before,
if you're in a Culver City area and mar Vista
neighbors Culver City, you see waymos everywhere, the west side
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mar Vista, Culver City, Santa Monica, even now in Inglewood
you will see waybos absolutely everywhere. My question is is
this going to be a one time thing or is
this going to be a regular occurrence where these vehicles
are going to be vandalized?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
This is probably I mean, look, there aren't that many
people who've got it in for way Mo.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
If this kid I do, I just wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, he may be, you know, a Uber driver
who's aware that Uber's about to be out of business,
But again that has nothing to do with Waymo. The
company that's taking over self driving technology with Uber.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's not Waywell that's not the way. But you're trying
to make sense out of nonsense.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying I doubt this is
gonna be something that we see often enough, because I
believe that the technology itself will start to upgrade security
measures that if you pull something like this, that may
be the last thing you do in life. Because if
the cars then start locking once you try to vandalize, well,
(12:51):
that's your ass.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Then there's a question of if it starts to lock
when you vandalize, do you put possibly a writer in
jeopardy if there's someone in the car if you try
to vandalize the car and then the.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Car and someone else. I mean, if it would be
really tough for you. If I'm in a way I
say you can break you can break the window. I
don't think it's like no no, no, yeah, but if
you break the window with it, I'm getting out through
the broken window. I mean, it's if you get in
the car while I'm in the car, you best half
hands on you because because I'm gonna put pause on you.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I mean, there's a lot of what if that could
go into this, I hope not. But again, we've got
at least four other companies right now, right now actively
getting ready to launch. I know Elon's got hit and
they've actually worked out a lot of the kinks with
the Tesla robo taxis that have been in Vegas and
in Arizona. They've been working day and night to get
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the kinks out there, so they're trying to now span that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh the other company that I can't remember the name
of them, I think went out of business.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, Cruise is out of business, but there's another company
that has been testing and is actively working to get
a nationwide support and push.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it's it's it's one of those. That's why I
said I don't think this is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Going to be the norm, because there's gonna be too
many cars out there from different companies.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well the norm.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
As always, people push back against progress, people push back
against the idea of technology possibly taking jobs, and we
talk about this all the time. The eventuality is yes,
Waimo and self driving technology is going to end cab
drivers as we know them. It's going to end truck
drivers as we know that. Oh my god, I forgot
to I don't know how I forgot this. I was
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on the freeway. I was on the one to eighteen.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
A truck was behind me, a semi truck, all digital,
all fancy. There was no driver in the driver's seat.
There was a guy in the passenger seat and looked
like at the clipbar they were probably I was like,
oh my god, there is a truck behind me with
no driver.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well, I mean, look, we know that the Waimo has
a little minivans now and it's only a matter of
time before they start doing freeway. It's probably the same technology.
It's just a bigger vehicle. I mean, it was a
semi hitout large load. I don't know if there's anything
in it. I just know this was a semi truck
that was no one in the driver's seat. There's a
guy in the pastor of the seat, looked like he
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was and he was looking over at the past look
like he was taking notes or whatever. But I'm like,
is this the test pilot, most amazing thing I'd ever seen?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it kept getting close to my car, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm about to die.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But it didn't know this This is the future that
I'm saying anything that required a driver today probably will
not have a driver tomorrow, as in five years from now.
You know, this is just the eventuality, this is the likelihood,
and society is going to push back because people will
be losing jobs along the way.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm not rooting for it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'm just saying if you're a student of history, you
understand how a lot of this goes. People have pushed
it against back, against technology since there's been technology, but
now it's moving at such an accelerated rate. People may
not be ready for the amount of changes. You know,
we were We're still getting used to the idea of
ride share and uber lyft, what have you much less
(16:09):
a ride share with with no driver at all. This
world is changing very very very quickly. It's later with
mo Kelly. When we come back, We're gonna have one
of our first movie interviews tonight. We're gonna talk to
actor Emil Hirsh, who I loved in Speed Racer and
also the director of the new film Bow Artists at War,
Sean McNamara. And you may know Sean McNamara from his
(16:32):
recent movie Reagan, which starred Dennis Quaid. So we're gonna
talk about Bow Artists at war with both of them
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Kelly six.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Boo Artist at War. It's now in theaters and based
on the true story of Joseph and Rebecca Boo, whose
wedding took place in the Plus Show concentration camp during
World War two. Bow Artista War is part love story,
of course, part war drama, and even part Espiona's tale.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh I do not speak German. You can kiss my
ass as you like.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You did this?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
This my deposition of yours.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Name, Joseph bow Well, yeah, you're a new map maker commandant,
so then you can be your service a part for you.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Is it possible to change my seed?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
How does this work? I'm waiting for the sunshine. Looks
like you might have a problem.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Maybe you can be more sunshine.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I met a most wonderful woman being more sunshine.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Only you yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You to find something like that in a place like.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
This, and.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I see you. You take care of everybody, but who
takes care of you? Who?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
If we do our work, maybe we can survive this
madness and tell our story.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Rebecat however longer forever is share them with me. I'm
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just trying to give people hope.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
If you want.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Justice, you're going to have to survive.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Don't let they're with.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Me count There's some things that they can't take from us.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Laughter, joy, Our spirits.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Its stars.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Emil Hirsch is Joseph Bao, who not only finds love
in the midst of despair and imprisonment, but uses his
artistic skills to help hundreds escape. Emil Hirsch joins me
now on the show, Emil, A pleasure to meet you
this evening.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Nice to meet you, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And also Bow Artist That War is directed by Sean McNamara,
who also joins me. Sean, thank you so much for
coming on this evening.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Sean. Let me start with you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We last heard from you as the director of the
movie Reagan, starring Dennis Quaid. I think it's fair to
say you thrive with character driven movies. What drew you
to tell this story, Boo Artist That War?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Well, you got it right. Character driven movies that are inspirational.
And when I read this movie, I was just blown
away by this true life person who was a jokester.
He was funny, he could make people laugh in the
darkest of times, and we all need that. And at
the same time time he was saving lives, forging passports.
And then he found the love of his life in
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a concentration camp, Rebecca, and he just fell in love
with her, and somehow they managed to get married. If
you saw Schindler's List, there was a small part of
two people getting married in the plash Au barracks, and
that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Emil A similar question to you. You have such an
eclectic body of work, from starring in speed Race or
to co starring and Loan Survivor to your voluminous voice
acting work. What inspires you in choosing these projects?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I think characters that I think are challenging, and in
the case of Joseph Bao and Boo artistic war, playing
a character that has qualities that I just truly admire,
looking at the world like the glass is half full
and not half empty. I think that having that kind
of hope and courage and resilience and able to deal
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with the darkest of times with love and light and laughter,
those are qualities that I should have more in my
own life and to be able to walk a more
perfect Path is something that I think is inspiring.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Take me into Bow Artist at War. It's subtagline that
it is the greatest love story of the twentieth century.
But how did you go about balancing the delicate nature
of a love story against the harsh backdrop of the
genocide of the Holocaust.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Well, what I did was just follow the real story.
There was a screenplay, but it was based on a
book written by Joseph Boo, and Joseph Bow outlines what
happened to him before the war, becoming an artist, becoming
a successful artist, and then you know, first getting thrown
into the ghetto and then putting into the Plaschett concentration camp.
(21:51):
So I just kind of followed that story. What made
me want to do it was the humor of it.
He was a humorous guy. He was a person who
could make you laugh, and we all need friends like that.
You know, when you're feeling down and you're feeling bad
and somebody just cracks the joke that's totally inappropriate, but
it makes you smile, That makes you laugh, and I
think that releases endorphins in you. And I'm about making
(22:11):
movies that make you feel something and so then whilst
in there, he's one of the things that kept him
alive is he could draw maps because he was an artist,
and he was a great artist. He could go around
the camp and that gave him a quality that they
had to keep him alive. So he meets outside hit
the love of his life, or Becca Bough, and his
(22:32):
pickup line was, would you mean my sunshine? Because he
needed the sun to dry his artwork. And I mean,
if you think about that, that's a great first pickup line.
And he falls in love with her and they have
to sneak around and they you know, he has to
dress as a woman to get into the women's bear
because back then they were separated. The men were over here,
the women were over there, and somehow he could get
(22:54):
snuck over the gate and got in there. So it
was a hidden love and it was so that just
makes it intriguing today. But they really loved each other
and together they were part of the resistance, and they
helped rescue over a thousand people and save their lives,
and those lives have gone on to create millions of
(23:14):
family members from them and from all those people.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Emil, for those who may not know you are of
German Jewish ancestry. Did anything or what went through your
mind when you were seeing these re enactments of the
atrocities committed during World War Two?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I think just on a human level, just anytime you
see how other human beings are treated or mistreated, it's
upsetting and eye opening and heartbreaking to know that there's
just so much pain and tragedy now and even back then,
(23:51):
and obviously throughout the course of human history. It's just
there's been so much war and tragedy and sadness. So
knowing that we were playing people that had gone through that,
it was it was also inspiring to know that even
despite those circumstances, we do have these pockets of hope,
(24:14):
We do have these love stories that actually that worked out.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
And that had.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
You know, you couldn't call it out and out happy ending,
because like, look what we're dealing with, but it was
it was a sort of a rose that grew from
concrete in a way. Their their marriage of Joseph and
Rebecca about even even amidst a concentration camp where he
had to risk his life by sneaking into the women's
(24:43):
barracks to even get married to me. It's a testament
to to just the human spirit. You know, you can't,
you can't stamp out the good in people.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
My time is run short with you, gentlemen, let me
leave this last question with you. Sean McNamara, director of
about Artist at War. You made mention of Schindler's List,
and that's obviously going to be a likely comparison point
for a story like this. But for you, what is
your yardstick, your measurement as far as whether what you
put on screen met the mark and met the moment?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Well, I think it definitely met the mark. Bow Artist
at War is a story that we need right now
more than ever. When we made it, you know, a
couple of years ago, we were thinking, oh, this is
just a tale of what happened in World War Two,
and it's a cautionary tale so it doesn't happen again.
And then October seventh happened. And then while we were
editing it and getting it ready for today, the world
is turned upside down. So we need people to go
(25:40):
to the movies and watch Bao Artists at War and
realize what can happen if we don't find a way
to make peace with each other and to find find
a Path Forward.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bow Artist at War is now in theaters.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I want to thank you Neil Hurst and Sean McNamara
for joining me this evening. Many congratulations to you, gentlemen,
and I wish you nothing but success.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Thank you so much, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's Later with Moe Kelly k IF I AM six forty.
We're live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. And when
we come back, we're going to tell you about what
happened last night at Footage Fest and the Napoleon Dynamite
Anniversary where I was joined by the star of Napoleon Dynamite,
John Heater and also Rex Kwondo, Ddrich Bader.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's next.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's Later with mo Kelly live on YouTube and the
iHeartRadio app. And when I say I have the best
job in the world, it's not only being able to
talk to you Monday through Friday from seven to ten.
It's also some of the other things that I get
to do outside the studio, but it's still connected to
what I do here. For example, I was able to
(27:06):
moderate a discussion on the occasion of the twentieth anniversary
of the release of Napoleon Dynamite. It was about maybe
one hundred and fifty people or so. We had Nick
polio Chini come out, Tiffany Hobbs join me, t Walla
Sharp join me, and we got.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
To see the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They did a screening, a special screening, and then I
was joined at the front of the theater, and this
is at the Cover Theater in Culver City. I was
joined by John Heater, the star of the movie, who
played obviously Napoleon Dynamite, and also Dietrich Bator, who played
Rex Kwondo. I made the point during the Q and
A that Napoleon Dynamite serves a certain purpose as far
(27:49):
as that coming of age movie dealing with your awkwardness,
but it was for a millennial audience. I made the
comparison for me as a gen xer, that movie for us,
I would say was Revenge of the Nerds. But it
was amazing just doing my research on the movie, how
much of a phenomenon it was and how much was
working against it in the unlikely event that the movie
(28:12):
would ever come out, much less become a hit. It
was made on like maybe two hundred thousand dollars. Another
two hundred thousand was spent on marketing and promotion, and
it ultimately made forty six million dollars and nothing. You
almost never see anything like that in Hollywood. So sitting
down with heater and also better, you get to really
(28:35):
learn something about them as people but also as actors
and artists and ddrich Batter. If you haven't seen the movie,
I recommend going seeing it because it was ahead of
the curved many ways. It even had an end credit
scene back in two thousand and five. This is before
Iron Man, this is before the MCU. There's an end
(28:57):
credit scene which is about five minutes long. And ddre Bader,
one of the stars of the movie until last night,
had never even seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
He didn't even know he didn't know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That it existed, and so he was watching it with us,
seeing it for him at least for the very first time.
I'm still getting audio and video from Nick Polochanny. We'll
be posting it at mister Mokelly on my very social
media over the weekend. But here's just a little bit
of what it sounded like when I got to speak
to these gentlemen.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
There is this BYU connection. You went to BYU. The
filmmakers went to BYU. You were just out of school.
If I have this correct, how did this project come
to your attention?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I was still in school when we shot this, actually
I was, so it all started.
Speaker 10 (29:44):
Really it was two thousand and one, was still I
was in college then. Jared and I, Jared has and
I were from We're kind of friends. We knew each
other a little bit through classes. We were in a
couple of classes together, and he comes to me one
day with a short script. It was just a seven
page script for short for his class assignment that says,
(30:07):
John Wannatt, you read this, tell me what you think.
And I knew I was like before that happened. I
just again the few classes I had with him, I
just knew this guy was funny and I knew that
he had a It's.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Just a short clip, but we'll have more. But it
was a really good evening, and it was one of
those things where it's nice to be able to talk
about movies and then talk about movies with the people
who are in the movies that you're always talking about
and to. And if you're not familiar with John Heater
he was also in Blades of Glory, the bench Warmers.
(30:43):
He's done a lot of work, and he's someone who
really never saw himself as a Hollywood person or a
person who was going to be a movie star. He
did this basically as a favor for a friend, and
as I was told, he was paid like a thousand
dollar dollars for it. Ddrich Bata was paid five thousand
dollars for his one day shoot for rex Kwondo and
(31:06):
the whole movie shoot was twenty two days long. And
then the rest, they say, is history. But John Heater
was not trying to be a movie star. In fact,
he was a Mormon missionary in Japan, speaks fluent Japanese,
and he thought that was going to be the direction
of his life. But instead this movie took on a
(31:28):
life of its own. And you know, now we all
celebrate that movie some twenty years later. I've seen it
like five times, and each time I see it, I
noticed something different about it, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's it's a strange movie.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's so different, and you wouldn't think that it would
ever have a chance at being an actual hit or
a cult classic, which it is, but it is all
that and more so. If you check out our social
media this weekend. It's not up yet, we're still uploading it.
You'll be able to see much, if not all, of
the conversation I had with John Heater and also Dietrich
Bator talking about the magnificence of Napoleon Dynamite and yes,
(32:06):
we covered whether there will ever be a sequel and more.
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