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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Forty now Kelly Show, Social.
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Media, Facebook, It's extract talk.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Viral viral Load, viral load, the viral load.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Latimny kay if I am six forty We're live on YouTube, Facebook,
Instagram and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Now let's turn it over to Tiffany Hobbs and the
viral load.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Mo. Can I just say, if you ever need me
to go to In and Out, I am absolutely a
willing participant in that request.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I love In and Out. Okay, we have another hour
in the show. Stephan, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Uh, Mark, get your ordering because we're going to just
forego the viral load and Tippy Hobks is gonna go
get us food.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now she don't know. I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I'm totally okay with that, but let me get these
couple of stories in before we do.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Wait.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Wait, this is really important speaking of pranks, and that
In and Out prank story horrendous, absolutely terrible. It's one
of the stories that I was contemplating doing, but because
I knew it was such a big story, I said,
let me pause on it and find another story. And
the story that I found actually is another example of
a prank. So there are all sorts of Internet pranks.
(01:31):
There's the throwing cheese at the baby prank, there's the
plastic fake poop in a public space prank.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Well, the newest prank and a prank that for me
probably would get you punched in the face if you
did it to me, is putting fake electrical outlets in
public spaces, specifically in airports.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You can go on Amazon and buy anything, and I
highly caution you, those of you who are listening or
watching on YouTube, to not do this because you could
find yourself on the receiving end of someone's fist and
you probably would deserve it. So if you bought this
from Amazon, it looks like an electrical outlet. You can
order them in packs or singularly. They're stickers, and they
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look so realistic that when people are now engaging in
this prank, they're standing back, of course, and they're watching
unsuspecting patrons or unsuspecting public members go to these outlets
expecting to be able to plug in their chargers after
a long day of travel or you know, in an
anticipation of a long flight whatever it may be, a laptop,
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of computer, headphones, anything, And what they're finding is they're
plugging nothing into plastic. They're they're taking their their their
charging court and they're jamming it into the wall, in
some cases damaging their own plugs because it's just a sticker.
And again, if you're doing this, if you find yourself
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participating unknowingly in this prank, then just understand you've probably
been recorded and posted on the internet for everyone to.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Laugh at you. But it's not funny.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
It's not funny at all. It's downright cruel. I can
understand kind of wanting to get your kicks maybe at
like and in and out arrest.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Do it to your friends, do it to people you
don't know, Yes, I just I always have to insert myself.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
How would I respond in the situation.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I'm gonna assume that you're gonna let me know I'm
on candid camera at some point, I.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Don't think they are.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It's people just standing back and getting this footage and
then they upload it and it goes viral, which is
why this story exists. There are a number of viral
videos of people jamming their plugs into these fake outlets,
not knowing walking away, and then the videographer whoever's taking
the footage is just getting their kicks out of this
and in an airport just seems like adding insult to injury.
(04:01):
It's already a high stress situation.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't like people. People are horrible. I just don't
find the I don't find the humor point. No, it's
not to me. It's not creative, it's not novel as
in new It's just you're just effing with people. That's
the only way I can describe it. And that is
something you would do to your friends. Yes, and then
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you tell them you let him in on it, and
it's over.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah. But yeah, just random people.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
In an airport at that look, you really want to
piss people off when they're about to fly or traveling
in any way.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I think it's part of the me generation where people
don't think beyond the end of their actions. I want
to see people, in my mind, make a fool of
themselves so I can put them up online and make
a fool of them again for likes, clicks, hearts, virality.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
All right, all right, So, in speaking about doing things deliberately,
this situation, this next story actually was an accident, and
we've all been here. Remember, there have been plenty of times,
I'm sure where you've accidentally called someone the wrong name.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Mo.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
You're married, and you may have any number of pet
names for your wife, baby, Sweetie Hunting.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Now I don't have pet name for my wife, but
I do say this, I'm horrible with names.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And we have a system.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So if I like going to a college or union
and it's like, there are a lot of people I
can't remember the names of I just can't. I even study,
you know, Facebook before I go who I might run into.
But we have a system where if I like tap
her on the back, that means you go ahead and
introduce yourself first. Yeah, and it's like, Hi, I'm Labu
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Hair and he said, oh, I'm Johnny so.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And so it's like, baby, this is daddy.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Sure, Sure, that's best case scenario. But let's say it's
a high stress situation, and likely many of us, if
not all of us, have been in a situation where
we accidentally referred to someone we're speaking to, perhaps as
someone else's name or a pet name, or perhaps something that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You usually do in your relationships.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You get upset with your spouse and you say honey,
your sweethearts or something to kind of bring the conversation back.
And you might do that to a stranger or to
someone you're ordering with if they're frustrating you. It's just
the way the brain works an association. Well, on this case,
we have two players in this scenario. Okay, we have
a judge, a woman, okay, and her name is Judge
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Elizabeth L.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Harris.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
And then we have an attorney from Colorado State and
he's unnamed in the situation because he probably wants to
stay that way. And what happened is during oral arguments
during this case, the people versus Delgado, which happened to
be a sexual assault case, which was being revisited to
evaluate the defendants consecutive prison sentences, the Colorado State attorney
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made a huge mistake. Steph ready for you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
This could have been three separate, but it wasn't three separate.
Let's go with what happened in the keys.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Honey or oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't know what to say to that. I apologize,
stop talking, Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
The the question here is what happened.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'm sorry, I've just been totally thrown but yeah, I
can imagine.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I can imagine I'm a little thrown by that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Also, if I'm being honest, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It's just okay, well go ahead, you've only gone a
minute and seven seconds the.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Call.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, the judge, honey.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yeah, high stress can produce that sort of mistake in association.
That's what psychologists say, and in this case, this poor
attorney call it the judge.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Honey, that's not poor attorney. That's as I saw him.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And of course it was recorded, uploaded, and now it
will live in perpetuity on the tonette. One of his
darkest moments, not his finest for sure as an attorney,
is now living there forever.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, honey, look, oh I'm sorry. Oh, there's so many
ways that you can interpret that. Did he visually see
some sort of similarity? Was there an emotional type of
familiarity whenever he got in an argument with someone. Yeah,
that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking, like, that's how he
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addresses women. That's what I'm saying. Seem very condescending.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
It's like, honey, and he realizes immediately, but it's too late.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He was thrown. Lucky she didn't throw him out of
the courtroom.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
On the other side of the viral Lomo, we have
a movie viral story, and we also have a story
about a business, a brewery that also made a huge
mistake caught on film.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's later with mo Kelly, Part two of the Viral
Load coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You're listening too, Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Now it's Sun for them my Robe, Tiffany live on
campi Lata with lo ok. She'll talk about this on
social media roolone with Tiffany.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Hubbs, KFI A six forty is later with Mo Kelly
Live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Now it's part two of the Viral Lobe with Tiffany Hops.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Okay, And for the sake of time and the sake
of time, we're gonna switch the order of the last
two stories, So Steph, have that audio ready. There's a
brewery in Saint Louis. It's called Crafted and it's now
in hot water and facing a lot of financial backlash
after an employee was recorded on video by a patron
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calling that patron the B word. Steph, can we hear
the first Clipay, for sure, here.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think you should talk to him because he already
come from this.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I just asked, what's question?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
She didn't apply your happy hour discant like.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
She was supposed to.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Okay, hold on, let's not be ap. She's gonna get
taken care of you.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
What's your name? And in here?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What's your names?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
In your play?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
What's your where's your manager?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I just recorded what you just said, right, So, just
to set the scene, there's a customer at a table.
She has her phone set up, and she's enjoying a beer, presumably,
and while she's trying to work out her bill and
get a discount for happy hour applied to her final bill,
she's talking to this employee and they're trying to kind
of sort it out. And you heard the employees say there, well,
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you don't have to be such a bee about it.
The patron immediately says, where's your manager? Can I talk
to your manager? The employee walks off. Of course, this
video was uploaded on the patron's personal social media pages,
and people wade in. And one of the first things
that people do nowadays when there's a business involved is
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they take to websites like Yelp, or to the actual
website to be able to rate and share commentary about
that business. And they did this for Craft Crafted, the
brewery in question. They took to Yelp, they took to
different social media, and they dragged Crafted through the mud
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because the manager at the time fail to respond. Now,
when the rating for Crafted started to dip, as Yelp
and these other websites would then create based off of
negative reviews, the manager finally decided to speak up and
she released her own bit of video on social media
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to try and counteract what the patron said. But people
are saying that this video has only added insult to injury,
did not help the situation at all. Let's hear what
the manager had to say.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
You're not lying. It was very accurate. I think the
context could have a little different because you know, all
of your followers are now attacking my business and a
personal issue that you have with one of my employees
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is now ruining a small neighborhood business woman owned her business.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, in her apology or explanation that was supposed to
be an apology, the manager didn't say anything about the
employee being held accountable. There was no restitution attempted during
the apology, and it sounds a lot like a passive,
aggressive attempt at quote unquote saying she was sorry for
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what happened. But the business's reviews continue to tank.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
God, I didn't get any sense that there was any apology.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I thought that she was more disgusted and offended that
people came after the business, a woman owned business, as
she put in, for something that, as far as I
could hear, was the fault of the employee, not the patron. Yeah,
and as the manager, if you would have handled it
then and in the moment, it would not have led
to this. You can't have your employees cussing out in patriots.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You can't, and you deserve whatever backlash you get if
you do not take action right then and there with
the offending employee. And that's what's happening with crafted for
our final story of the night, a quick story. People
are calling out the mundane things that happen in movies
and television shows that they say are absolutely unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Mo.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Can you think of something that happens on TV or
in film that is supposed to be a normal day
to day activity by this character and in real life
that never ever happens.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'll give you one. For example.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Okay, you have a teenager coming down or out of
their room. They see a huge spread on the table
of breakfast food everything you can think of, stacks and
Saxon pancakes, and they grab an orange or an apple
and say, I'm late, i gotta go, and they leave
everything there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yes, the prints make fun of us for that. They do.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Very little of sitcom TV is real. There are too
many examples I can think of off the top of
my head. It's just the whole idea of the coming
downstairs and the whole family being in one place at
one time.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Does not happen. It doesn't happen. In doesn't.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So there's a laundry list of grievances that people have
and that's what's going viral. People are weighing in about
these unrealistic actions.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Here's another one.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
They said, when a person flips on the TV immediately
and they get or excuse me, they flip on the
TV and immediately get the information from the news that
they were hoping to find. That's popular and like disaster
movies or something.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Right at the point of the announcement, six point nine earthquake
and this Panorama City.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Another one is when people don't say goodbye when talking
on the phone.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
They just finish their last sentence and hang up.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
A really popular one when people are traveling by car
and the driver keeps looking over at the passenger talking
for ten seconds at a time, or.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
If you can watch us on YouTube, they're doing this
with the steering wheel back and forth.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's like, is the car zigzaging?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Because when I'm driving is ten and two and you
just keep it right there would have pulled them over
by that point.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I have one final one when people go to a
bar and they tell the bartender, what do they say?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Keep it open?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
No think TV or movies. You go to a bar,
A character goes to the bar, they sit down. What
do they say to the bartender?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh, give me the regular.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
They go, I'll have a beer, and the bartender just
instinctually knows that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
The beer that they serve is the beer that Yes,
have you ever been to a bar like I have?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Was like, well, we have bottle beer, we have on draft,
you know, we have craft, Yeah, we have this need
to be very specific.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
People are taking the social media to share their common
grievances about how unrealistic surprise surprise entertainment is.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, just speaking about the phone, you know when you
call someone on TV, they actually pick up like first rate.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Exactly who does that? I don't know, Honey. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, Mo,
Sorry Mom?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
You know wait, there are two days going back to
that that B word story about the patron crafted. The
only good part about that story have nothing to do
with you, was that they're playing boss gags in the background.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Were they playing it yet? Play the clipper yet? Real quick?
That's what jumped out at me. This could have been
three separate it no, not that one that that was fine.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
She didn't know what.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
She's gonna take care of you. That's probably gonna get
flagged in the podcast. Well that's the end of the viral.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Of course, you can catch me Saturdays from five to
seven for Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's later with Mo Kelly when we come back.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We have an update on that Cobra Chai story yesterday
that we told you about between Alicia Hannah Kim and
also Martin Cove, where Martin Cove bit Alisha Hannah Kim
on her arm and her husband was there. We have
the body cam video and the audio as they tried
to work it out after the incident.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's next you're listening to Later with mo Kelly on
demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
With Mo Kelly on.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Six Live, everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeart
Radio app. Yesterday, we told you about Cobra Kai's Alicia
Hannah Kim and her let's call it an altercation with
co star Martin Cove, and how Martin Cove allegedly bit
Alicia Hanna Kim on the arm, almost drawing blood and
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they were at a fan event in the state of Washington,
and instead of it devolving into a larger altercation, Kim
called the police and they had the police onseene and
we now have the body cam video and also the
audio of how it was being explained to the police
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and what ultimately was done. Listen to this white people
that is I'm sorry. It starts off with the voice
of the officer. He is admonishing Martin Cove.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
White people. That is not okay.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
It's to her if she wants to pursue charges, I'd
like to understand why you did that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm really I apologize.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
I was just playing because we're very playful together.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
And I bicked down too hard and I meant to
set a mountain hard.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I know, no, we do not play like that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I apologize.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
No, so no, I want I don't know what world
do we like where to bite and leave a mark
on her as a police officer visible, that's super not cool.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And I don't know if the soul assault.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Super tell me.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I want to be very clear with witnesses. No, no,
we're gonna hear me because I want to.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Be very clear.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
What everyone here, Martin. You think it's funny to play
with people. We are colleagues. I have played with you
on set, We danced, we worked together with shaking hands.
And I came to you as a colleague and I
said to your son, Hey, can you tell your dad
not to bite me.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm not going to the cops. I'm not going to anyone.
He says, I'm sorry. I said, it's not his Well,
just tell your dad. He can't bite me now in the.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Realm of what is normal and reasonable. And I don't
know if you understand that that's called civility and camaraderie,
and it's called colleagues friendship. That's what that is. I
came to you with that benefit of the doubt. Then
I came to your face. I said, money, I said,
very gently of you, money. You may not bite me.
It hurts no. You try to justify it because I
don't think you understand that you cannot bite other humans.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
I don't know what's going in your brain, but for
you to get outraged at me is completely and utterly inappropriate,
and honestly, I'm ashamed of your dignity as an eighty
year old man to scream at a lady that you
just bit.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
You say that we're friends and that we play sir,
we work together, we shake hands, we do photo ops,
we get along. When have I ever bit you? Biting
is an offense. That's why I've brought this gentleman here
to speak to you. Because you think you have done
nothing wrong. You have committed assault on my body. So
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I don't know what realm of justice you live in
that you think that that's in the realm of play.
I'll tell you that the one, two, four men that
are standing here will dispute your idea of play. My
husband doesn't bite me, Nobody bites me. Being expensive it
is undignified and it is assault.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So I don't really care what your justification is, but
right now.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
You're going to listen to this office out because I'm
on the prece office of fury and seeking my own
justice because what you've done is committed assault and that's
on camera everything that I just said, So please fi
all me.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Okay, do you get the general gist. She's pissed. She's
rightfully pissed. She has every reason. If you see the
video which you're showing right now on YouTube, you'll see
a guy who's in a white T shirt that is
Jesse Cove, the son of Martin Cove.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
He doesn't say anything, but he's there.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't know where her husband is because obviously when
we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He was there on scene.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
He doesn't say anything, and that's kind of strange to me. Yes,
she was giving her side of it. Martin Cove was
a guest trying to be apologetic. But if we're going
to bring the police into it, I gotta file charges
because there's no point to have the police there to
get an apology, because all they're talking about is an apology,
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and she says she's on the precipice of fury or
something like that. Look, I know she's mad. I know
she's mad. She has every reason to be bad. But
if the police come over after biting me, there's no
point in telling this whole story on video to the
police if you don't plan to take it further. Of course,
I mean, there's a cooling off period. She doesn't have
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to file charges immediately. But damn it, if you bite
me and we call the police, your ass is going
to jail and we'll work out the other stuff after
the fact. I don't know, this is one of those
easy ones. You would think that you get the easy ones, right.
He bit you, He admits that he bit you. The
police officer start the audio again. The police officer starts
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off by saying, basically, biting is not cool. So everyone
is on one accord.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It happened bite people.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
That is not okay.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
That is not okay. The officer is not asking, like, so,
what happened? What was leading up to it? Was there
a precipitating event, was there a fight? It's clear he
bit her, and it doesn't seem like Martin Cove was
taken away.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
To jail White people.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
That is not okay, felt, and it's one hundred percent
to her if she wants to pursue charges, I'd like
to understand why he did that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Does he really need to understand honestly?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And this is where me as the husband, as the
protective person when it comes to my wife, that's when
I would foresee myself saying, excuse me, officer, We don't
need to get an understanding because your presence here is
only to ascertain whether something happened, she says. My wife
says it happened. This guy admits that it happened. So
(23:54):
let's talk about next steps. Do you have your cuffs
on you?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Good?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
So I would like to this is what I as
the husbands that we need to file charges, and so
filing charges, I need you to arrest him now because
that needs to be part of the record and we
got to handle it right here, right now, or otherwise
what's the point of bringing the officer over. Yes, you
got it on tape that he admitted it. Well, okay,
you have your confession. Take his ass away. We're gonna
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take this to the hallway right now. Cafi Amson forty.
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Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty before we go.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I want to finish up with this Cobra Kai story
because I think it says a lot about relationships and
more importantly, expectations, and I wanted to also get a
lady's perspective. We heard from Carnecia last night, but I
also want to hear from Tiffany Hobbs of the Viral
Love because this is a huge viral story now where
we had Martin Cove of Cobra Kai and also Hannah Kim.
(25:01):
They were doing this fan event in the state of Washington,
and Martin Cove, just to reset for Tiffany, for some reason,
decided to bite Alicia Hannah Kim, almost drawing blood.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
When we talked about this, we said, okay, why didn't
her husband intervene who was there? Twelve and I were saying,
someone's getting his ass whooped. I don't care if he
is eighty years old, you're biting my wife. Then we
heard today the actual bodycam audio. Saw the video and
it's Alicia Hannah Kim explaining to the officer what happened?
(25:35):
I said, I didn't understand why there was all this
explaining going on, because, if anything, you've obviously told to
the police officer, and he has admitted doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What are we talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Someone needs to be arrested, and there's not even clarity
on where the husband was at that point, because the
husband supposedly intervened, but he's nowhere to be found. What
I want to ask of you, Tiffany, is, as a
woman in a similaration, what would you want the man
to do?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Your man? The hell is this story? This is crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You know?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
In my situation, if there is any man standing by,
I would hope that they would intervene on my behalf.
I don't care if it's my significant other or an
usher in the stands, whatever it is. If there's a
man nearby, I want that man to intervene in some
way to protect me and hold that other person accountable.
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And then also I can understand people freezing.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Freezing is a real.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Legitimate reaction to things that are so ridiculous, and that's
what this is. It's extremely ridiculous. And I'm also troubled
to hear that she didn't press charges.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Not as if yet. And I know you can press
charges at a later date. And I don't know why
you're going to seek out.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Law enforcement if you're not going to see that through. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
And you know, obviously anyone in the workplace, be them
actors or whatever industry you're in, we're all very well
informed about harassment about inappropriate employee conduct.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Why, especially on a set.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Especially on a set, why this is being minimized is
beyond me. And it sets a very dangerous precedence for
like playfulness in the workforce. This is this or in
the workplace. This is not that it says here that
he almost drew blood.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, like this is this is extremely serious. It is
extremely serious.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Alicia Hannah Kemp obviously thought it was serious enough to
get law enforcement. There are two things I don't understand.
And it's not blaming the victim. I'm saying I don't understand.
I don't understand how you would let someone walk away
after doing it.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah, And I you know, and I don't want to
blame or place any sort of volatility, you know, onto
her husband. Again, who knows what his reaction was outside
of our purview? Who knows if he didn't try and
intervene in some way. But you know this, this to me,
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any person who's standing around, any male who's standing around,
would be responsible for Alicia Hannah Kim in this situation.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
There's something that's instructive. There is a teachable moment in this.
And I always talk about envision yourself in a situation
before you're in that situation, and you're less likely to
freeze if you are thinking about what would I do
as a bystander, you think about it in advance, You're
more likely to act in that situation because you're less
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likely to freeze.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You have to think about it in advance.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
There is something I think women should think about this
being in that moment. Men definitely should think about this
being in that moment. It should It doesn't have to
be your wife, to your point, doesn't have to be
your significant other. It could be a woman who may
just need your help, and help comes in a variety
of ways.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Help could be like, hey, what do you do on
stop that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
And you know, I just anecdotally, I saw an example
of domestic abuse, presumably a couple of weeks ago, and
I watched as people watched, and no one intervened.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I called the police, but.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
There were men around and they just watched or walked by.
So the freezing reaction, sure, But I think there's a
lot of cowardice as well and fear of blowback, especially
in a situation like this where you're on a set
and who knows what. Alicia Hannakim was wondering in that
moment about what would happen to her career.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
No, and I know that was a consideration and maybe
she didn't want to blow it up more than it was.
But again, once you bring police into it, and you're
like at a fan event, so their cameras, there's video
of it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
We just haven't seen it yet. I'm positive there's video
of it.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, because Martin Cove obviously was performing in his mind. Yeah,
so there were cameras on him, there were phones on it.
So we'll see it, yeah, he said, we will see
the video, and that'll probably give us a different perspective
as well. But this goes back to a time where
it's almost like everyone wants to be either the star
of their movie or a non player character just sort
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of just there but not really there. Don't want to
get involved, don't want to do anything, and if they're
not the star.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
They're not they're not in it.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
All of those people around and not one person at
least according to these reports, did anything.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I think that's an indictments.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, his son is able bodied, and he didn't even intervene, And.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
You can't just brush this off as oh, well he's old,
he may be feeble minded or whatever.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
But well, that to me says it's even easier to
intervene at that point, absolutely, because they're not the physical
consequences or danger for yourself that you have to consider.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Ugh, this this is really, really, this is a terrible story.
This is horrible. How dare he?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I always I I have to believe that there's more
to this, in the sense of there's something that happened
on the set prior to which gave Martin Cole the
idea that they had a level of playfulness.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I'm not blaming her.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I'm just saying something put it in his mind that
he thought this was okay.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
According to her, when she spoke to the officer, one
of the things that she said was that he says,
we're playing, but we don't play like this. We're colleagues,
we're not friends. We don't play this way. So his
attempt to dismiss it as just cavalier and wanton was
not disregarded, but straight up struck down by her.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
She said, no, this.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Is just one I just I want it more from
men in that moment, Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
As a woman, I want men to step up, and
there are so many examples of men not doing it.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
And I know it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
It's easier said than done to ask men to put
themselves in vulnerable positions. But if you're watching a woman
or someone who is more vulnerable than you being abused
or harassed in any way, it is on you to
do the right thing.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
We'll see tomorrow. We'll let Tiffany Hopps have the last
word on that one. It's late with mo Kelly. Thanks
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