June 24, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on the controversary surrounding Lolo Jones being banned from the Olympic Training Center AND Shedeur Sanders Traffic Stop…PLUS - A look at the dangers of ‘FOPO’& your tarot horoscope reading for the week of June 23 - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Later with mo Kelly alive everywhere on social media.
And let's go beyond the box Score with our regular
commentator Jackie Ray, who joins us in the studio.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I saw this story regarding former Olympian Lolo Jones. It
is made by Blood Boil. If you don't know Lolo Jones,
multi Olympics, multi sport medaled athlete. She was suspended from
using the training and sports medicine facilities at the US
Olympic and Paralympic Training Center in Lake Placid for the
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past four months because of a verbal confrontation with a
sports medicine staff member after she was denied medical treatment
at the center. That's important she was denied and then
make a long story short, she said to one of
the top officials, John Faltis, over there, you are a
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fing excuse me, a horrible f in human being. Then
she was put out and they released a statement saying
this conduct is unacceptable and I want to make it
clear that such behavior cannot be tolerated. They did a
subsequent investigation and found that she should have not been
denied treatment at the Olympic Training Center. They did not
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reinstate her and remove her suspension. For me, it's like, okay,
so you basically admit that you were in the wrong
trained center. You also admit that you're not going to
remove the suspensions. Well, how could you be wrong and
also keep the penalty in place? Obviously she was righteous
in her anger, was she not?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
She was absolutely righteous, And I'm I would just love
to meet this medical professional, to meet someone who is
trying their best to finish out their career as strong
as possible. Know she's in some pain. I saw that
she had some incontinence at that moment in time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That is, if y'all don't know what that is, Google
it lost control of bowels. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I couldn't figure out a good way to describe that.
But that is the worst possible scenario, especially when you're
an athlete, when you're any human being. So as a
medical professional to not say, hold on, even if she
was in the wrong, to see that she's in pain
and to know she has this issue, to not say,
let me take a beat, let me see what I
can do.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Maybe we can get you in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Maybe we can get you in later today, because had
they taken that extra step, they might have seen instantly
that they were in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could have done both. In other words, they could
have shown grace during right or grace after right. Either
or it would have been better than this. If they
would have shown grace during this, you point out, they
probably could have rectified it all immediately. If they showed
grace afterward, it could have been an apology, our mistake.
Let's lift the suspension and move forward. But they couldn't
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do either right.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And the crazy thing is is I love how they said, Oh,
she used, you know, foul language. If she would have
said you are a horrible human being and just left
out the pleasant adjective, it's my favorite word in the
English language. If she would have left that out, I
feel like they still would have done this to her
because she was probably irate when she said it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't feel like it's what she said. I think
it's how she said it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And it is probably all that. But then you have
to wonder if you're gonna talk about the hippocratic oath
and do no harm, well, there has to be some
sort of caveat that also says help when you can.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Right right, And that's the thing when you're talking about athletes,
and when you're talking you have this center, so athletes
can really perform at their best and their highest level.
And then when you find out. So there's two things
that brothered me about this. Number One, you found out
you were wrong. You didn't even say oops, my bad.
You said, oh, we were wrong, so sorry for you.
We're just gonna stay on this road. But you didn't
even get both sides of the story. So their little
whack investigation only asked one person, and that was the
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person she said, you're a horrible f in human being
or whatever she said, But they didn't ask the athletes around.
The athletes around her said this is terrible, This is
way too far. This is retaliatory that should not be happening.
But their voices don't matter either. So even the athletes
that are in this that are not suspended or didn't
get access, you have to wonder how they feel.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's something else to this. There's also allegations of selective
enforcement of this code of conduct. This past winner, a
team USA Winter Sport athlete screamed and cursed at a
US teammate at an international event, refusing to stop even
after being warned by team officials and other teammates. This
code of conduct is supposed to be all encompassing, is
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when you're trading facility, when you're competing all of those things,
and if you're not going to enforce it all the time,
then I really have to look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Even if the whole thing, to me, I just see
Kobe going soft. You soft, Like, what are we talking about.
We're talking about words, We're not talking about people getting physical.
We're talking about athletes. I don't know an athlete on
the planet who's never cursed in their lifetime and been
agitated about something, especially when they're competing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So this is asinine protocol.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To me, it's soft, and it gives them leeway to
be selective and who they retaliate against.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I think it's intentional.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I wonder if there's not a lawsuit coming only because
the physical aspect of being in pain and being denied
treatment and then also being proven that you were wrongfully
denied treatment. Lolo Jones, I think is forty one.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Or forty Yeah, this is it for her, Yeah, this
is it so this is.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The end of her career, and if you denied her
rehabilitation any type of treatment which shortened her career or
brought it on quicker, I could see a case there
I would be interested to see, and especially if you
start digging up more instances of selective.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Enforcement, right, And I'm wondering why they're not thinking about that,
because that would have made me immediately reverse it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Doing you know you're in the wrong, and you're saying, hey,
you're admitting you're in the wrong, publicly admitting and you're
in the wrong, but you're still going to suspend like
there's no one in your legal department that said, hey.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Excuse me, don't say that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
If you're watching a YouTube show or on Instagram, you
can see some of the video of Lolo Jones at
the point of reference. And she is a marketable individual
and I I mean not to say that she'll be
found very sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yes, and she's in fantastic shape to be her like
any age really, but she's in fantastic shape. And so
that's going to even garner more sympathy because you see
a woman who knows she's at the end of her career,
and she's trying to go out with a bang, and
you denied her the ability to do that. She's going
to have instant public sympathy.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Someone else who's in the news when we come back,
who I don't know, deserves public sympathy. Shaduor Sanders, the
son of Dion Sanders, you know, coach of Colorado. You
follow him. We followed the family for quite some time.
He originally was thought to be a first round draft pick,
a high first round draft pick. Long story short, deon
Sanders gotten away and basically boguarded and said certain teams
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were not going to be able to draft his son.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
He dropped to the fifth round for Eli's dad. But
you know the Eli didn't Eli say something similar.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, he said he was not going to play for
the San Diego Chargers. But I say that to say
to set this up that Shadoor Sanders, it was a feeling.
There's a question about his character. There's a question about
whether he was mature enough to lead a franchise as
a quarterback. He gets two speeding tickets in a week,
one for driving forty miles an hour over the limit.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I want to talk about that with you. When we
come back, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
If I AM six forty, We're going to be on
the box Score with Jackie Ray. We're live everywhere on
social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
CAF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube and everywhere else on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. We like to talk about sports,
but through the lens of just societal issues and things
that we don't break down the box Score. We break
down the issues in sports and how they apply to us.
Shadoor Sanders, very famous son of legendary football coach Hall
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of Famer Dion Sanders, is now coming into the NFL
with a lot of expectations and I think maybe shud
Or Sanders fancy himself a little better than he is.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But we'll see what happens on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know that if you're going to play quarterback in
the NFL, you are looked at as the face of
the franchise. Presumably after every game you are doing the
interview speaking on behalf of the team. Right, you have
to carry a much larger load and from that, higher expectations,
higher maturity level demanded. And when I see that Shudor
sanders not one but two speeding tickets, one for going
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ninety one and a sixty five zone and one going
one hundred in a one on one in a sixty
two days apart, that says to me that there may
be some immaturity issues, which has been highlighted in recent
recent weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I think it's more than immaturity though too. I think
it's a level of entitlement. I think because of who
his father is and the expectation and the way that
he talks, and he does see himself at a level.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That he has not reached yet.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So the expectation is, in my opinion, is he feels
like he can he can do these things, and if
he does get pulled over, it's a oh my god,
you're sure and you know and then it's over. I
think he sees himself at a higher stature than what
he actually is.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What scares me is life is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They're going to remind him that he's not for a
number of reasons. One, because you're a twenty two year
old black man with flowing a lot of money, right,
that draws unnecessary attention to you, a lot of attention
you may not want. And also you're your contract is
not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's not there.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But again, so I'm gonna tread lightly on this one, okay,
because if it was anybody else who had this opportunity,
this is an opportunity of a lifetime. This is an
opportunity that can change his life. This is not the
situation for him. He gonna have money regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He had money coming in already because of the nil
and the family money.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right, and so he he's in a different place. I
can tell you right now. If he gets dropped next week,
he's going to be someone where on commentating some game.
His career is not going to end just because football
doesn't work out. So he doesn't have the same Okay,
let me hunker down, let me prove myself. He doesn't
have that because he's never had to have that. So
his a little flip it with it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
The first ticket didn't bother me. I'm gonna say that
didn't bother me. I'm a speed demon myself, you know
what I mean. So I just I don't get caught
a lot. I know where they are, you know, so
it's different. The second ticket bothered me because once you
get that first one, then it should be a okay.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I still have to prove myself.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I still have to show the world that I am
the leader, because like it or not, I do think
that sometimes it's separate. Your life in football is different
from your real life. However it's not perceived that way.
How you are perceived is in totality. So if you
act crazy in the world, they're going to assume you're
acting crazy in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And you have to know.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Look, whether y' all like it or not, black people
we have to work twice as hard to get half
the credit. He knows this because he's seen this, and
this is America. We know what we know we're up against,
and he has an obligation, in my opinion, to make
sure that he's not only living up to certain standards,
but he exceeds the standards, and he makes sure that
black men coming up after him are not seeing like, oh,
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I bet you he's just like just because now he's
the standard that people can say, Oh, if Librador will
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Let me put it in just my terms. I know
whenever I walk into a room or whenever I open
this mic here on KFI, either I will confirm or
debunk stereotypes right, and people will look for that and
they will say, well, he is this or he's not that. Now,
I don't mind someone twenty two big twenty two. I
don't want to have the wisdom or sophistication of a
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fifty five year old man because I didn't have that
when I was twenty two. I was a knucklehead, but
I didn't have the same level of expectations or burden
on my shoulders. I hope Deon Sanders can pull his
son aside and say, look, you are representing more than
just yourself, right, and you are also expected to conduct
yourself in a different than everyone else. And it may
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not be fair, but it's a fact. You have to
live up to those expectations. Should Door standers to me,
as of yet, has not shown that he's ready to
accept that level of responsibility, from the way that he
handled his time at the Combine and how he handled
his interviews right to what he's doing right now. I
always wish the best for young athletes, but I don't
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know that he's getting a wise counsel.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's my concern because you know, if you if
you're not old enough to remember Dion when he came
in the league, he was very showy as well. He
was very over the top, but it was still a limit.
He's still he was great in interviews.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
His teammates trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Didn't he didn't get in any trouble. His teammates loved him.
He was he was over the top, but in a
way that was very acceptable and it made him fun
to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
This isn't fun, so he has to learn.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And I'm surprised that there's not a level of self
reflection because sometimes when we just sit back and watch ourselves,
we can go ooh, that was not the right thing
should do.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Is not a generational talent. He's not as far, absolutely,
and he does not have the personality and affability of
his father.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Do you think that maybe that's what we're seeing is
him understanding that he's not his father and that's messing
with his mind in some way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Maybe, but this is way too late in the game
to have a you know, an adolescent crisis of you're
trying to figure it out or daddy issues I'm just saying,
you know, you want to be in the league, you're
going to have to be a man in a man's league.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And what responsibility does Dion. Dion knows the game.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, I know. I think he has the ultimate responsibility
as coach and father to make sure that his son
is prepared to deal with not only the league, but
to deal with the world. And you know it's hard.
I've never experienced it, but to be twenty two and
be worth eight figures, that's insane. Yeah, it's insane, and
it's I know that I would not have been mature
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enough for it, but this was the adventure that Dion
and Shaduur have both chosen.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think as a parent, I would know that that's
way too much money for a child. So I think
as a parent, I would want to set things up
have people around him. Sometimes the word from your parents
is not the words you want to hear, so you
have to make sure that there are other people in
play that can help. And maybe he just doesn't have that,
or maybe Dion needs to circulate some people out of
his circle.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We'll see. If there's another incident like this in the
near term, then I'm going to start believing that he's
just not mature enough for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I wouldn't let this speeding if I was Dion, I'm
snatching his keys. You're gonna get a driver's.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, sometimes you have to protect people from themselves. But
you know, I hope that he will put it this way.
He will get a chance to prove himself on the field.
At some point, he may get cut by Cleveland. I'm
being very serious, yeah, this one, And that was going
to be my next question. If he gets cut, do
we all of a sudden see a different kid who
now needs he has humbled.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
He hasn't been humbled yet.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He hasn't dealt with any real adversity. I don't know
if he's learned to take responsibility for that which he does.
You know, if people look at him a certain way
because of his antics honor off the field, he has
to own that right. And there's a larger message I
think for young people and athletes in general, beyond shud
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or Sanders like. Look, I call this free wisdom. You
don't need to make the same mistakes as someone else
to be able to extract the wisdom from it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
One hundred percent. I wish him the best.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I want to see him succeed, but it's I think
his talent will eventually catch up. We just have to
make sure that his personality is in check. Good luck
your faith.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Sanders, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But Dion, it's such a humble being now he he is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I don't know that his son gets that maturation process.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Of his own father.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Well.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, the kid's been on TV since he was little,
you know, so it's like he's never he's not lived
real life yet.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Let's just be honest, and.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't think he I don't think he's the star
that his father was at any level of football.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You can't tell him that though.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
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Speaker 2 (16:19):
Kelly six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and social media.
Let me tell you about faupo, not to be confused
with fomo fomo.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
We all know it's fear of missing out.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Faupo is something which is evolving because of this social
media landscape we have, and it's fear of people's opinions
interesting for all the memi meanness of social media where
we express our social media's at every turn. FOPO is
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now considered to be a dangerous psychological condition. Psychologist Michael
Gervais came up with the faupo concept, which he describes
as a hidden epidemic, and people who suffer from it
quote lose faith and confidence in themselves and their performance
suffers close quote. And foupo is primarily an anticipatory mechanism
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that we use in a preemptive process to increase our
acceptance in the eyes of others and for us to
try to avoid rejection close quote. Where would you find
yourself in that? Stefan Do you think that you have
a fear that you're willing to admit of other people's opinions?
How do other people's opinions impact you? If at all
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this is weird.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I don't know where that would even fall under, right,
It makes no sense, Mark Ronner, You seem to be.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Very self assured, you don't care too much about people's opinions.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I thought faupo could have been so much worse than
it wound up.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Being.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I was afraid of what you were gonna say. I
tell you, I'd tell you. These acronyms could be pretty tricky.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I mean, anybody who gets into any media job has
to have thick skin. I used to work with a
columnist in Seattle who when she got hate mailed, she
would get so depressed, and I'd always ask her, why
are you doing this? Then it's guaranteed you're gonna get that.
You got to have thick skin. But you know, if
you're human, some things break through. Like if viewers all
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of a sudden started telling me how hideous I was
and how I made them too nauseous to eat their
dinner or something, I'd feel bad.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I mean, we're all human, you see.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
For me, I process things differently. And I was getting
into this argument with someone who was trying to insult
me on my Instagram.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And at mister Mokelly yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And I came back at him and I was like, look,
you could have engaged me in debate, but you start
off with an insult.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Is that the one that you sent to us?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Correct? Okay, yeah, yeah, keep going this skin? And so
he wanted to call me thin skin. It's like, no,
that's not being thin skin. If you set up a
stage for a certain type of reaction interaction, I'm going
to give you that in return. And I don't care
about if people knew the type of hate that I
get on a daily basis. It's not about fear of
people's opinions. You know, that's what I signed up for.
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But there is something to be said for what you
allowed to put up with.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
And also people need to remember you're not an employee
at a fast food window. You can respond in kind
if people are rotten to you, right, And I think
people forget that in a general sense. You think that
because you know what my social media is, you can
say anything and everything and I just have to take it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No, No, nor do I take to heart. Going back
to the story about Foupo about what people say, because
whenever I speak publicly, I always have to remind people
I am my biggest cheerleader at all times, and I
recommend you be your biggest cheerleaders at all times, because
there's always someone who's going to tell you you're nothing,
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and you can't internalize it. As far as fear of
other people's opinions, you can't be afraid of someone's opinions
and be in media to your point Mark, be it
someone who's going to be a talk show host or
television anchor. There's always got and especially with social media today,
there is so much negativity. I was called the innword
like three times today on social media, just today, just today.
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What were you wearing? What'd you do to be right?
It's Monday? Right, No, it's Monday. I'm just saying, that's
the world we live in, and you can't internalize it.
And I'm just being very honest with you. You can go
to my thriads. I mean I put it up there
because people want to say, like, the America I live
in is just like this. No, your experiences, even though
we may live physically in the same place, are not
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always the same, and the way people express their opinions
is not always the same. On social media, people say
a lot of stuff they would never say in person.
That's why I don't internalize it, because there's something obviously
wrong with.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You well, and you can't internalize it because, especially since
we have anonymity online, people just unleash their ID and
say things they would never ever dare say to your face,
never through a cure, never profile yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Never, And I try to explain that, like I sent
the messages to you. It's like, look, if you want
to have a debate, we can have a debate as men,
and we can disagree and dislike each other's opinions but
walk away with the mutual level of respect. But when
you come in hot with insults, there's nowhere for us
to go.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well as far as your faux po thing, and I
can't say that and take it seriously fau po.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
The irony is that people get into media or acting
or news media or whatever. I think initially because they
do crave a certain amount of attention. But as soon
as you get into it, you realize you can't take
anything seriously, whether it's hate or praise, because then it
throws you off your focus.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, none of that. I put it all in the
same bin. I'm appreciative of those who may say, hey, MO,
I really enjoy your show, thank you very much. That's
very kind of you. I'm humbled and I mean that,
and I say, MO, you're the worst thing ever, thank
you very much. I appreciate that. You know, kiss my ass,
thank you. Drive through. Yeah, you know, look, I have
a thing and I talk about this with Tuala all
the time. Just come at me as you would on
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the street. And if you're willing to say that to
me on the street, god bless you. But don't say
anything to me in social media because you think that
you're entitled to or that there are no consequences to it,
or I won't respond because I'm the radio host and
you're the listener. No, I'm a grown ass man. It's
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the same.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Thing that Westworld, the newer HBO Westworld, tried to dramatize
in a sci fi setting, which is that we now
have kind of permission to be our worst selves because
of the anonymity, and it's really dragged society into a
terrible place.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's true, and I find that the worst purveyors of
it is usually someone who could. They usually cowards because
they won't even say it with the real face. So
obviously I know that there's something where you're insecure about
something because you don't want anyone to know what you
look like. You don't want it to come back on
you in any way. Believe it generic like user fifty
(23:14):
nine and no profile picture.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, yeah, none of that.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Use your real identity, your real name, A photo post
where you work. Everybody knows where we work. Right, do
we come to where you work and slap the you
know the rest of that joke?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, no, no, But what do I say all the times? Look,
I signed my name and I'd post my real picture
to everything I do. Yes, I have a cartoon avatar,
but if you click on the link, you know exactly
what it looks like. I'm not hiding from anyone, but
I'm really big on having basic home training, basic home training,
and I'm proud of the fact that I respond to
people more than anyone on.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The station by a couple of times where we have
explained to people than in real life. In real life,
you will be handled differently as a couple of people
who try to come crazy. And it got to the
point where, let us know where you are right now.
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There's one There's one person who got to the point
where he had to right back and say, hey, I'm sorry,
but I am differently able or I am a handygap
you know man, this, that and the other because he
got his ass on his shoulders and thought he was
gonna talk crazy and then he found out, which is
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why I'm not on social media, because it goes left
real fast. Right, I don't do it anymore because I
go left too quickly.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
But you know, I like your way is beautiful before
I go Yeah, no, your way is beautiful. I go
straight to the I will blank blank blank blank blank immediately.
I've never had that thing that you have where you're
willing to go back and forth and tear people down emotionally.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, this is a different type of f look
I have. I have a lot of rules. In other words,
if how you start is how we'll finish. If you
start with a greeting, we will finish with a greeding.
If you start with a nice topic of discussion, we
will finish with a topic of discussion. I'm very conscious
of chronology. If your first note is an insult, because
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you think that's gonna get my attention, or you're gonna
put me in my place, well I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna tear you apart, you know, in a in
a verbal sense, and send you on your way. And
then I'm gonna block you because I didn't ask for you. You
came to me. So if once you I will give
you what you give me, well receive in return.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
That makes perfect sense. And what's puzzling about the attacks
that I hear and occasionally see on you is that
it's not like you present yourself as Martin Downey Junior.
It's out of character to comment you like that because
you don't really put out a bunch of aggressive stuff
in your persona on the air.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, I try to have fact based, spiritual discussions. You
may disagree with me, but I'm always going to show
you my work, always going to share with you my work.
And some people that's offensive to some people. They can't
handle that. Some people can't handle that. I don't open
up the phone, so you can just give me a
piece of your mind. Show me your lighting bulb reaction.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
What do you suppose would happen if we just had
constant open phones every night?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
A lot of insults, that's all that's all for. People
don't know. That's just bad radio. It's just bad radio.
I'm just being very transparent now. It's bad radio. Trust.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
We used to have the phones open once upon a time,
and every other time someone tried to drop in some
in bomb, yeah, some curse, some everything, not recognizing the delay.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It was bad. Why do you think we don't take
talkbacks because people just leaving all types of crazy stuff
that they would never say in person.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
An occasional baba booie that too. Yeah, yeah, I mean
those are the things.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And so if a person is interested in genuine discussion,
I'm your best friend. But if you're not, I'm not.
It's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty We
have your horoscope when we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Six forty Later with Mo Kelly. Here is your horoscope
for this week. And you're probably wondering what this is
the week have in store for you. Let's find out, Arees.
Here's your tarot card for the week, the Ten of Cups.
And I know nothing about tarot cards meaning romance. Are
you aries? Oh you're Leo.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I just know the tarot Carse's.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay, okay? The Tin of cups? Is that good or bad?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's pretty good?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay. Whatever your relationship status, you can make your realm
and self feel more romantic, whimsical, imaginative, care, free loving
and beloved. Ritual self care, pampering nature, good food and
plenty of hydration. Soppy films or music on the table
that's yours Ares Taurus. Your tarot card for this week
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death meaning transformation, a makeover, a spring clean, a glow up,
a regime change, a new routine or schedule, a spruce
and revamp of your space, a new task or alliance
in work, a change of opinion or outlook. Notice what
it's fading or ebbing away or feels false in your realm,
and let it go, just like the Disney movie Gemini
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Mark Let's have It. Your tarot card is a six
of swords meaning release all sounds dirty? Got I make
it weird, don't you. I'm not the one who initiated this.
Don't blame the victim. All Geminis are good at letting
go of what's not serving them. It's a key trait
of the sign, the ability to move on and not
look back. Why do you hesitate now? Then? This thing
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you're sick of has been long time coming, and you're
perhaps you felt bad about severing the tie, or felt
reluctant to lose your only pair of shoes as a say,
but it's time. It's the right time to do this.
You are only blocking your own path ahead. You are
only limiting your own energy. Walk away from what hurts
or doesn't work. A new horizon will emerge.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
So be ruthless, cut people off, be your just, be
you be Tawala no no, no twalla will cut you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I'm just you have to walk away. I see cancer, Stephan,
let's go. Your Tarot card for the week is the Star.
What is that? What is that? Carneche? Is that good?
Bad and different?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That is good? Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's your season and new moon after all, so you
get all the cosmic goodies. The Star is a beautiful
card of wish fulfillment and dream is coming true. It's
an invitation to make your most heartfelt passion or goal
a reality, and it starts here. The universe will respond
to your intent and overt steps and back you up
with good fortune and unexpected opportunity. But it needs to
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see you get the ball rolling first. Make magic cancer,
it's your time to shine, okay, and this is Leo
for Carnesia. Your Tarot card for the week is six
of cups. So that's not as good. It's kind of good.
Somebody's kind of good, right all right? Meaning nostalgia. Revisit
your childhood this week literally or mentally and replay the
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show real the happiest of times, watch old movies, play
your records, have a school disco, reunite with besties, get
the photo album out, call family daydream about your favorite times,
take a trip to an old haunt. Sometimes we get
so much healing and insight from revisiting older versions of
ourselves and remembering what we loved, liked, hated and thrived on.
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Sometimes it's a nudge to reinvent something, at the very
least process something. Carnesia Virgo the tarot card for this week,
the devil. I assume that's negative Virgo. Let yourself go.
Let yourself admit what is you, what is it you
truly want or need, and just go for it. You
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set a lot of rules and boundaries and controls around
your behavior and thinking, and sometimes that is a good thing,
makes you efficient, strong, protected, safe, But sometimes it thwarts
your enjoyment of an ability to live a full life.
We are here to experience everything. Let yourself admit to
a temptation and maybe even succumb to it. Set new rules,
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or enjoy smashing the old ones all together. Be a devil.
There's a tie in for once Libra Your tarot card
for the week is eight of Cups. This card is
a promise that something amazing is just around the corner.
You can't see it coming yet, but trust that it is,
and therefore relax and enjoy where you're at. Don't chase
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anything or anyone. Don't force an issue, don't cling onto
a dream that hasn't worked out. Let it all go.
Something way better is coming along and you just need
to be in an optimistic, relaxed frame of mind, ready
to receive. Prepare to be amazed and delighted by what
this week brings. Scorpio Twala, let's go. You're the night
of Wands. I don't know what that means. This card
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is like Idiota Jones setting out on a hair raising
escapade and winning all the trophies, romance, rewards, and accolades
along the way. He doesn't have a master plan. He
uses his wits and a heft dose of good luck.
And this is your mode of attack this week. Jump in,
say yes, do it. Whether it's travel, a big change,
a holiday, a social event, a new course or project,
a romance of blossoming friendship. Invest in what makes your
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heart beat faster and give it your all, don't wave
your wanded people in the office to all ah a
go on a wonderful adventure. Who knows where it could lead. Mark,
I'm gonna put you out.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
He's doing my job than Sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Time out. And now did we say, like you know,
let go jump into all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Don't hold back? Am I supposed to cut you off?
Now now you can't?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh? Okay, Sagittarius, this is for me the Tower. I
am a very honest sign, ruled by Jupiter and willing
to say things that others would suppress.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
A bruising, but necessary and useful dialogue will unlock truths
I didn't see coming this week, but it's actually all
a relief. I could sense an underlying tension or secrecy,
and I hate that feeling of dread more than any event.
Now I know what's what. Now I can react and
rebuild and restore normality on my terms. Yes, it's all
about me, So have those tough conversations, get the truth.
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Feel good about having a firm foundation again. Okay whatever, Capricorn,
your card is the hermit music to your ears. I
bet as you are not keen on having your social
battery drained or not, nor having to be on show
or colluding with others. You like your own company. Full
permission to pursue that this week and stay in. Read rest, watch, rubbish,
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cook potter, meditate, plan scheme, garden, dense around the lounge right,
lay in, have sex. Aquarius, your card is five of wands.
See yourself as a heat seeking missile.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You are zooming in on hotspots place of tension, stress, conflict,
or blockage, not to add fuel to the fire, but
to identify the root cause issue of the noise and
to consider ways of resolving it. At that level, you
might not get one hundred percent hit rate of success,
but you will tackle more than you think and make
your realm a happier place. All credit to you. People
will remember your good work and you'll be building good
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karma points too. And lastly, Pisces, your card is seven
of wands. You are a tougher cookie than the typical
zodiac schools of thought give you credit for you have
enormous intuition, understanding, and wisdom. You can work people out easily.
You can outwit most. You can find a reason to believe.
That gives you fortitude and resilience when others would quit.
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Find that in yourself this week the reason to believe
the goal. You are driven towards the thing you feel
compelled to do, and that is what is in store
for you this week and your associated Tarot card. May
it bring you great happiness. And I know what none
of this means. It's later with mo Kelly IM six
four Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app as I and
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Later with mo Kelly alive everywhere on social media.
And let's go beyond the box Score with our regular
commentator Jackie Ray, who joins us in the studio.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I saw this story regarding former Olympian Lolo Jones. It
is made by Blood Boil. If you don't know Lolo Jones,
multi Olympics, multi sport medaled athlete. She was suspended from
using the training and sports medicine facilities at the US
Olympic and Paralympic Training Center in Lake Placid for the
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past four months because of a verbal confrontation with a
sports medicine staff member after she was denied medical treatment
at the center. That's important she was denied and then
make a long story short, she said to one of
the top officials, John Faltis, over there, you are a
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fing excuse me, a horrible f in human being. Then
she was put out and they released a statement saying
this conduct is unacceptable and I want to make it
clear that such behavior cannot be tolerated. They did a
subsequent investigation and found that she should have not been
denied treatment at the Olympic Training Center. They did not
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reinstate her and remove her suspension. For me, it's like, okay,
so you basically admit that you were in the wrong
trained center. You also admit that you're not going to
remove the suspensions. Well, how could you be wrong and
also keep the penalty in place? Obviously she was righteous
in her anger, was she not?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
She was absolutely righteous, And I'm I would just love
to meet this medical professional, to meet someone who is
trying their best to finish out their career as strong
as possible. Know she's in some pain. I saw that
she had some incontinence at that moment in time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That is, if y'all don't know what that is, Google
it lost control of bowels. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I couldn't figure out a good way to describe that.
But that is the worst possible scenario, especially when you're
an athlete, when you're any human being. So as a
medical professional to not say, hold on, even if she
was in the wrong, to see that she's in pain
and to know she has this issue, to not say,
let me take a beat, let me see what I
can do.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Maybe we can get you in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Maybe we can get you in later today, because had
they taken that extra step, they might have seen instantly
that they were in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could have done both. In other words, they could
have shown grace during right or grace after right. Either
or it would have been better than this. If they
would have shown grace during this, you point out, they
probably could have rectified it all immediately. If they showed
grace afterward, it could have been an apology, our mistake.
Let's lift the suspension and move forward. But they couldn't
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do either right.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And the crazy thing is is I love how they said, Oh,
she used, you know, foul language. If she would have
said you are a horrible human being and just left
out the pleasant adjective, it's my favorite word in the
English language. If she would have left that out, I
feel like they still would have done this to her
because she was probably irate when she said it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't feel like it's what she said. I think
it's how she said it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And it is probably all that. But then you have
to wonder if you're gonna talk about the hippocratic oath
and do no harm, well, there has to be some
sort of caveat that also says help when you can.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Right right, And that's the thing when you're talking about athletes,
and when you're talking you have this center, so athletes
can really perform at their best and their highest level.
And then when you find out. So there's two things
that brothered me about this. Number One, you found out
you were wrong. You didn't even say oops, my bad.
You said, oh, we were wrong, so sorry for you.
We're just gonna stay on this road. But you didn't
even get both sides of the story. So their little
whack investigation only asked one person, and that was the
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person she said, you're a horrible f in human being
or whatever she said, But they didn't ask the athletes around.
The athletes around her said this is terrible, This is
way too far. This is retaliatory that should not be happening.
But their voices don't matter either. So even the athletes
that are in this that are not suspended or didn't
get access, you have to wonder how they feel.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's something else to this. There's also allegations of selective
enforcement of this code of conduct. This past winner, a
team USA Winter Sport athlete screamed and cursed at a
US teammate at an international event, refusing to stop even
after being warned by team officials and other teammates. This
code of conduct is supposed to be all encompassing, is
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when you're trading facility, when you're competing all of those things,
and if you're not going to enforce it all the time,
then I really have to look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Even if the whole thing, to me, I just see
Kobe going soft. You soft, Like, what are we talking about.
We're talking about words, We're not talking about people getting physical.
We're talking about athletes. I don't know an athlete on
the planet who's never cursed in their lifetime and been
agitated about something, especially when they're competing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So this is asinine protocol.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To me, it's soft, and it gives them leeway to
be selective and who they retaliate against.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I think it's intentional.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I wonder if there's not a lawsuit coming only because
the physical aspect of being in pain and being denied
treatment and then also being proven that you were wrongfully
denied treatment. Lolo Jones, I think is forty one.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Or forty Yeah, this is it for her, Yeah, this
is it so this is.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The end of her career, and if you denied her
rehabilitation any type of treatment which shortened her career or
brought it on quicker, I could see a case there
I would be interested to see, and especially if you
start digging up more instances of selective.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Enforcement, right, And I'm wondering why they're not thinking about that,
because that would have made me immediately reverse it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Doing you know you're in the wrong, and you're saying, hey,
you're admitting you're in the wrong, publicly admitting and you're
in the wrong, but you're still going to suspend like
there's no one in your legal department that said, hey.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Excuse me, don't say that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
If you're watching a YouTube show or on Instagram, you
can see some of the video of Lolo Jones at
the point of reference. And she is a marketable individual
and I I mean not to say that she'll be
found very sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yes, and she's in fantastic shape to be her like
any age really, but she's in fantastic shape. And so
that's going to even garner more sympathy because you see
a woman who knows she's at the end of her career,
and she's trying to go out with a bang, and
you denied her the ability to do that. She's going
to have instant public sympathy.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Someone else who's in the news when we come back,
who I don't know, deserves public sympathy. Shaduor Sanders, the
son of Dion Sanders, you know, coach of Colorado. You
follow him. We followed the family for quite some time.
He originally was thought to be a first round draft pick,
a high first round draft pick. Long story short, deon
Sanders gotten away and basically boguarded and said certain teams
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were not going to be able to draft his son.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
He dropped to the fifth round for Eli's dad. But
you know the Eli didn't Eli say something similar.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, he said he was not going to play for
the San Diego Chargers. But I say that to say
to set this up that Shadoor Sanders, it was a feeling.
There's a question about his character. There's a question about
whether he was mature enough to lead a franchise as
a quarterback. He gets two speeding tickets in a week,
one for driving forty miles an hour over the limit.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I want to talk about that with you. When we
come back, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
If I AM six forty, We're going to be on
the box Score with Jackie Ray. We're live everywhere on
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Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (07:28):
CAF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube and everywhere else on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. We like to talk about sports,
but through the lens of just societal issues and things
that we don't break down the box Score. We break
down the issues in sports and how they apply to us.
Shadoor Sanders, very famous son of legendary football coach Hall
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of Famer Dion Sanders, is now coming into the NFL
with a lot of expectations and I think maybe shud
Or Sanders fancy himself a little better than he is.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But we'll see what happens on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know that if you're going to play quarterback in
the NFL, you are looked at as the face of
the franchise. Presumably after every game you are doing the
interview speaking on behalf of the team. Right, you have
to carry a much larger load and from that, higher expectations,
higher maturity level demanded. And when I see that Shudor
sanders not one but two speeding tickets, one for going
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ninety one and a sixty five zone and one going
one hundred in a one on one in a sixty
two days apart, that says to me that there may
be some immaturity issues, which has been highlighted in recent
recent weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I think it's more than immaturity though too. I think
it's a level of entitlement. I think because of who
his father is and the expectation and the way that
he talks, and he does see himself at a level.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That he has not reached yet.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So the expectation is, in my opinion, is he feels
like he can he can do these things, and if
he does get pulled over, it's a oh my god,
you're sure and you know and then it's over. I
think he sees himself at a higher stature than what
he actually is.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What scares me is life is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They're going to remind him that he's not for a
number of reasons. One, because you're a twenty two year
old black man with flowing a lot of money, right,
that draws unnecessary attention to you, a lot of attention
you may not want. And also you're your contract is
not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's not there.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But again, so I'm gonna tread lightly on this one, okay,
because if it was anybody else who had this opportunity,
this is an opportunity of a lifetime. This is an
opportunity that can change his life. This is not the
situation for him. He gonna have money regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He had money coming in already because of the nil
and the family money.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right, and so he he's in a different place. I
can tell you right now. If he gets dropped next week,
he's going to be someone where on commentating some game.
His career is not going to end just because football
doesn't work out. So he doesn't have the same Okay,
let me hunker down, let me prove myself. He doesn't
have that because he's never had to have that. So
his a little flip it with it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
The first ticket didn't bother me. I'm gonna say that
didn't bother me. I'm a speed demon myself, you know
what I mean. So I just I don't get caught
a lot. I know where they are, you know, so
it's different. The second ticket bothered me because once you
get that first one, then it should be a okay.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I still have to prove myself.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I still have to show the world that I am
the leader, because like it or not, I do think
that sometimes it's separate. Your life in football is different
from your real life. However it's not perceived that way.
How you are perceived is in totality. So if you
act crazy in the world, they're going to assume you're
acting crazy in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And you have to know.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Look, whether y' all like it or not, black people
we have to work twice as hard to get half
the credit. He knows this because he's seen this, and
this is America. We know what we know we're up against,
and he has an obligation, in my opinion, to make
sure that he's not only living up to certain standards,
but he exceeds the standards, and he makes sure that
black men coming up after him are not seeing like, oh,
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I bet you he's just like just because now he's
the standard that people can say, Oh, if Librador will
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Let me put it in just my terms. I know
whenever I walk into a room or whenever I open
this mic here on KFI, either I will confirm or
debunk stereotypes right, and people will look for that and
they will say, well, he is this or he's not that. Now,
I don't mind someone twenty two big twenty two. I
don't want to have the wisdom or sophistication of a
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fifty five year old man because I didn't have that
when I was twenty two. I was a knucklehead, but
I didn't have the same level of expectations or burden
on my shoulders. I hope Deon Sanders can pull his
son aside and say, look, you are representing more than
just yourself, right, and you are also expected to conduct
yourself in a different than everyone else. And it may
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not be fair, but it's a fact. You have to
live up to those expectations. Should Door standers to me,
as of yet, has not shown that he's ready to
accept that level of responsibility, from the way that he
handled his time at the Combine and how he handled
his interviews right to what he's doing right now. I
always wish the best for young athletes, but I don't
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know that he's getting a wise counsel.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's my concern because you know, if you if
you're not old enough to remember Dion when he came
in the league, he was very showy as well. He
was very over the top, but it was still a limit.
He's still he was great in interviews.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
His teammates trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Didn't he didn't get in any trouble. His teammates loved him.
He was he was over the top, but in a
way that was very acceptable and it made him fun
to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
This isn't fun, so he has to learn.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And I'm surprised that there's not a level of self
reflection because sometimes when we just sit back and watch ourselves,
we can go ooh, that was not the right thing
should do.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Is not a generational talent. He's not as far, absolutely,
and he does not have the personality and affability of
his father.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Do you think that maybe that's what we're seeing is
him understanding that he's not his father and that's messing
with his mind in some way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Maybe, but this is way too late in the game
to have a you know, an adolescent crisis of you're
trying to figure it out or daddy issues I'm just saying,
you know, you want to be in the league, you're
going to have to be a man in a man's league.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And what responsibility does Dion. Dion knows the game.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, I know. I think he has the ultimate responsibility
as coach and father to make sure that his son
is prepared to deal with not only the league, but
to deal with the world. And you know it's hard.
I've never experienced it, but to be twenty two and
be worth eight figures, that's insane. Yeah, it's insane, and
it's I know that I would not have been mature
(13:50):
enough for it, but this was the adventure that Dion
and Shaduur have both chosen.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think as a parent, I would know that that's
way too much money for a child. So I think
as a parent, I would want to set things up
have people around him. Sometimes the word from your parents
is not the words you want to hear, so you
have to make sure that there are other people in
play that can help. And maybe he just doesn't have that,
or maybe Dion needs to circulate some people out of
his circle.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We'll see. If there's another incident like this in the
near term, then I'm going to start believing that he's
just not mature enough for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I wouldn't let this speeding if I was Dion, I'm
snatching his keys. You're gonna get a driver's.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, sometimes you have to protect people from themselves. But
you know, I hope that he will put it this way.
He will get a chance to prove himself on the field.
At some point, he may get cut by Cleveland. I'm
being very serious, yeah, this one, And that was going
to be my next question. If he gets cut, do
we all of a sudden see a different kid who
now needs he has humbled.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
He hasn't been humbled yet.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He hasn't dealt with any real adversity. I don't know
if he's learned to take responsibility for that which he does.
You know, if people look at him a certain way
because of his antics honor off the field, he has
to own that right. And there's a larger message I
think for young people and athletes in general, beyond shud
(15:15):
or Sanders like. Look, I call this free wisdom. You
don't need to make the same mistakes as someone else
to be able to extract the wisdom from it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
One hundred percent. I wish him the best.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I want to see him succeed, but it's I think
his talent will eventually catch up. We just have to
make sure that his personality is in check. Good luck
your faith.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Sanders, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But Dion, it's such a humble being now he he is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I don't know that his son gets that maturation process.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Of his own father.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Well.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, the kid's been on TV since he was little,
you know, so it's like he's never he's not lived
real life yet.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Let's just be honest, and.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't think he I don't think he's the star
that his father was at any level of football.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You can't tell him that though.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. We'll talk to you soon,
Jackie Red kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere
on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Kelly six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and social media.
Let me tell you about faupo, not to be confused
with fomo fomo.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
We all know it's fear of missing out.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Faupo is something which is evolving because of this social
media landscape we have, and it's fear of people's opinions
interesting for all the memi meanness of social media where
we express our social media's at every turn. FOPO is
(16:59):
now considered to be a dangerous psychological condition. Psychologist Michael
Gervais came up with the faupo concept, which he describes
as a hidden epidemic, and people who suffer from it
quote lose faith and confidence in themselves and their performance
suffers close quote. And foupo is primarily an anticipatory mechanism
(17:23):
that we use in a preemptive process to increase our
acceptance in the eyes of others and for us to
try to avoid rejection close quote. Where would you find
yourself in that? Stefan Do you think that you have
a fear that you're willing to admit of other people's opinions?
How do other people's opinions impact you? If at all
(17:46):
this is weird.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I don't know where that would even fall under, right,
It makes no sense, Mark Ronner, You seem to be.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Very self assured, you don't care too much about people's opinions.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I thought faupo could have been so much worse than
it wound up.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Being.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I was afraid of what you were gonna say. I
tell you, I'd tell you. These acronyms could be pretty tricky.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I mean, anybody who gets into any media job has
to have thick skin. I used to work with a
columnist in Seattle who when she got hate mailed, she
would get so depressed, and I'd always ask her, why
are you doing this? Then it's guaranteed you're gonna get that.
You got to have thick skin. But you know, if
you're human, some things break through. Like if viewers all
(18:26):
of a sudden started telling me how hideous I was
and how I made them too nauseous to eat their
dinner or something, I'd feel bad.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I mean, we're all human, you see.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
For me, I process things differently. And I was getting
into this argument with someone who was trying to insult
me on my Instagram.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And at mister Mokelly yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And I came back at him and I was like, look,
you could have engaged me in debate, but you start
off with an insult.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Is that the one that you sent to us?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Correct? Okay, yeah, yeah, keep going this skin? And so
he wanted to call me thin skin. It's like, no,
that's not being thin skin. If you set up a
stage for a certain type of reaction interaction, I'm going
to give you that in return. And I don't care
about if people knew the type of hate that I
get on a daily basis. It's not about fear of
people's opinions. You know, that's what I signed up for.
(19:17):
But there is something to be said for what you
allowed to put up with.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
And also people need to remember you're not an employee
at a fast food window. You can respond in kind
if people are rotten to you, right, And I think
people forget that in a general sense. You think that
because you know what my social media is, you can
say anything and everything and I just have to take it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No, No, nor do I take to heart. Going back
to the story about Foupo about what people say, because
whenever I speak publicly, I always have to remind people
I am my biggest cheerleader at all times, and I
recommend you be your biggest cheerleaders at all times, because
there's always someone who's going to tell you you're nothing,
(19:58):
and you can't internalize it. As far as fear of
other people's opinions, you can't be afraid of someone's opinions
and be in media to your point Mark, be it
someone who's going to be a talk show host or
television anchor. There's always got and especially with social media today,
there is so much negativity. I was called the innword
like three times today on social media, just today, just today.
(20:23):
What were you wearing? What'd you do to be right?
It's Monday? Right, No, it's Monday. I'm just saying, that's
the world we live in, and you can't internalize it.
And I'm just being very honest with you. You can go
to my thriads. I mean I put it up there
because people want to say, like, the America I live
in is just like this. No, your experiences, even though
we may live physically in the same place, are not
(20:44):
always the same, and the way people express their opinions
is not always the same. On social media, people say
a lot of stuff they would never say in person.
That's why I don't internalize it, because there's something obviously
wrong with.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You well, and you can't internalize it because, especially since
we have anonymity online, people just unleash their ID and
say things they would never ever dare say to your face,
never through a cure, never profile yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Never, And I try to explain that, like I sent
the messages to you. It's like, look, if you want
to have a debate, we can have a debate as men,
and we can disagree and dislike each other's opinions but
walk away with the mutual level of respect. But when
you come in hot with insults, there's nowhere for us
to go.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well as far as your faux po thing, and I
can't say that and take it seriously fau po.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
The irony is that people get into media or acting
or news media or whatever. I think initially because they
do crave a certain amount of attention. But as soon
as you get into it, you realize you can't take
anything seriously, whether it's hate or praise, because then it
throws you off your focus.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, none of that. I put it all in the
same bin. I'm appreciative of those who may say, hey, MO,
I really enjoy your show, thank you very much. That's
very kind of you. I'm humbled and I mean that,
and I say, MO, you're the worst thing ever, thank
you very much. I appreciate that. You know, kiss my ass,
thank you. Drive through. Yeah, you know, look, I have
a thing and I talk about this with Tuala all
the time. Just come at me as you would on
(22:17):
the street. And if you're willing to say that to
me on the street, god bless you. But don't say
anything to me in social media because you think that
you're entitled to or that there are no consequences to it,
or I won't respond because I'm the radio host and
you're the listener. No, I'm a grown ass man. It's
(22:38):
the same.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Thing that Westworld, the newer HBO Westworld, tried to dramatize
in a sci fi setting, which is that we now
have kind of permission to be our worst selves because
of the anonymity, and it's really dragged society into a
terrible place.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's true, and I find that the worst purveyors of
it is usually someone who could. They usually cowards because
they won't even say it with the real face. So
obviously I know that there's something where you're insecure about
something because you don't want anyone to know what you
look like. You don't want it to come back on
you in any way. Believe it generic like user fifty
(23:14):
nine and no profile picture.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, yeah, none of that.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Use your real identity, your real name, A photo post
where you work. Everybody knows where we work. Right, do
we come to where you work and slap the you
know the rest of that joke?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, no, no, But what do I say all the times? Look,
I signed my name and I'd post my real picture
to everything I do. Yes, I have a cartoon avatar,
but if you click on the link, you know exactly
what it looks like. I'm not hiding from anyone, but
I'm really big on having basic home training, basic home training,
and I'm proud of the fact that I respond to
people more than anyone on.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The station by a couple of times where we have
explained to people than in real life. In real life,
you will be handled differently as a couple of people
who try to come crazy. And it got to the
point where, let us know where you are right now.
(24:08):
There's one There's one person who got to the point
where he had to right back and say, hey, I'm sorry,
but I am differently able or I am a handygap
you know man, this, that and the other because he
got his ass on his shoulders and thought he was
gonna talk crazy and then he found out, which is
(24:29):
why I'm not on social media, because it goes left
real fast. Right, I don't do it anymore because I
go left too quickly.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
But you know, I like your way is beautiful before
I go Yeah, no, your way is beautiful. I go
straight to the I will blank blank blank blank blank immediately.
I've never had that thing that you have where you're
willing to go back and forth and tear people down emotionally.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, this is a different type of f look
I have. I have a lot of rules. In other words,
if how you start is how we'll finish. If you
start with a greeting, we will finish with a greeding.
If you start with a nice topic of discussion, we
will finish with a topic of discussion. I'm very conscious
of chronology. If your first note is an insult, because
(25:19):
you think that's gonna get my attention, or you're gonna
put me in my place, well I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna tear you apart, you know, in a in
a verbal sense, and send you on your way. And
then I'm gonna block you because I didn't ask for you. You
came to me. So if once you I will give
you what you give me, well receive in return.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
That makes perfect sense. And what's puzzling about the attacks
that I hear and occasionally see on you is that
it's not like you present yourself as Martin Downey Junior.
It's out of character to comment you like that because
you don't really put out a bunch of aggressive stuff
in your persona on the air.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, I try to have fact based, spiritual discussions. You
may disagree with me, but I'm always going to show
you my work, always going to share with you my work.
And some people that's offensive to some people. They can't
handle that. Some people can't handle that. I don't open
up the phone, so you can just give me a
piece of your mind. Show me your lighting bulb reaction.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
What do you suppose would happen if we just had
constant open phones every night?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
A lot of insults, that's all that's all for. People
don't know. That's just bad radio. It's just bad radio.
I'm just being very transparent now. It's bad radio. Trust.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
We used to have the phones open once upon a time,
and every other time someone tried to drop in some
in bomb, yeah, some curse, some everything, not recognizing the delay.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It was bad. Why do you think we don't take
talkbacks because people just leaving all types of crazy stuff
that they would never say in person.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
An occasional baba booie that too. Yeah, yeah, I mean
those are the things.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And so if a person is interested in genuine discussion,
I'm your best friend. But if you're not, I'm not.
It's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty We
have your horoscope when we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Six forty Later with Mo Kelly. Here is your horoscope
for this week. And you're probably wondering what this is
the week have in store for you. Let's find out, Arees.
Here's your tarot card for the week, the Ten of Cups.
And I know nothing about tarot cards meaning romance. Are
you aries? Oh you're Leo.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I just know the tarot Carse's.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay, okay? The Tin of cups? Is that good or bad?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's pretty good?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay. Whatever your relationship status, you can make your realm
and self feel more romantic, whimsical, imaginative, care, free loving
and beloved. Ritual self care, pampering nature, good food and
plenty of hydration. Soppy films or music on the table
that's yours Ares Taurus. Your tarot card for this week
(28:06):
death meaning transformation, a makeover, a spring clean, a glow up,
a regime change, a new routine or schedule, a spruce
and revamp of your space, a new task or alliance
in work, a change of opinion or outlook. Notice what
it's fading or ebbing away or feels false in your realm,
and let it go, just like the Disney movie Gemini
(28:29):
Mark Let's have It. Your tarot card is a six
of swords meaning release all sounds dirty? Got I make
it weird, don't you. I'm not the one who initiated this.
Don't blame the victim. All Geminis are good at letting
go of what's not serving them. It's a key trait
of the sign, the ability to move on and not
look back. Why do you hesitate now? Then? This thing
(28:52):
you're sick of has been long time coming, and you're
perhaps you felt bad about severing the tie, or felt
reluctant to lose your only pair of shoes as a say,
but it's time. It's the right time to do this.
You are only blocking your own path ahead. You are
only limiting your own energy. Walk away from what hurts
or doesn't work. A new horizon will emerge.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
So be ruthless, cut people off, be your just, be
you be Tawala no no, no twalla will cut you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I'm just you have to walk away. I see cancer, Stephan,
let's go. Your Tarot card for the week is the Star.
What is that? What is that? Carneche? Is that good?
Bad and different?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That is good? Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's your season and new moon after all, so you
get all the cosmic goodies. The Star is a beautiful
card of wish fulfillment and dream is coming true. It's
an invitation to make your most heartfelt passion or goal
a reality, and it starts here. The universe will respond
to your intent and overt steps and back you up
with good fortune and unexpected opportunity. But it needs to
(29:53):
see you get the ball rolling first. Make magic cancer,
it's your time to shine, okay, and this is Leo
for Carnesia. Your Tarot card for the week is six
of cups. So that's not as good. It's kind of good.
Somebody's kind of good, right all right? Meaning nostalgia. Revisit
your childhood this week literally or mentally and replay the
(30:15):
show real the happiest of times, watch old movies, play
your records, have a school disco, reunite with besties, get
the photo album out, call family daydream about your favorite times,
take a trip to an old haunt. Sometimes we get
so much healing and insight from revisiting older versions of
ourselves and remembering what we loved, liked, hated and thrived on.
(30:36):
Sometimes it's a nudge to reinvent something, at the very
least process something. Carnesia Virgo the tarot card for this week,
the devil. I assume that's negative Virgo. Let yourself go.
Let yourself admit what is you, what is it you
truly want or need, and just go for it. You
(30:57):
set a lot of rules and boundaries and controls around
your behavior and thinking, and sometimes that is a good thing,
makes you efficient, strong, protected, safe, But sometimes it thwarts
your enjoyment of an ability to live a full life.
We are here to experience everything. Let yourself admit to
a temptation and maybe even succumb to it. Set new rules,
(31:18):
or enjoy smashing the old ones all together. Be a devil.
There's a tie in for once Libra Your tarot card
for the week is eight of Cups. This card is
a promise that something amazing is just around the corner.
You can't see it coming yet, but trust that it is,
and therefore relax and enjoy where you're at. Don't chase
(31:39):
anything or anyone. Don't force an issue, don't cling onto
a dream that hasn't worked out. Let it all go.
Something way better is coming along and you just need
to be in an optimistic, relaxed frame of mind, ready
to receive. Prepare to be amazed and delighted by what
this week brings. Scorpio Twala, let's go. You're the night
of Wands. I don't know what that means. This card
(32:02):
is like Idiota Jones setting out on a hair raising
escapade and winning all the trophies, romance, rewards, and accolades
along the way. He doesn't have a master plan. He
uses his wits and a heft dose of good luck.
And this is your mode of attack this week. Jump in,
say yes, do it. Whether it's travel, a big change,
a holiday, a social event, a new course or project,
a romance of blossoming friendship. Invest in what makes your
(32:25):
heart beat faster and give it your all, don't wave
your wanded people in the office to all ah a
go on a wonderful adventure. Who knows where it could lead. Mark,
I'm gonna put you out.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
He's doing my job than Sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Time out. And now did we say, like you know,
let go jump into all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Don't hold back? Am I supposed to cut you off?
Now now you can't?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh? Okay, Sagittarius, this is for me the Tower. I
am a very honest sign, ruled by Jupiter and willing
to say things that others would suppress.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
A bruising, but necessary and useful dialogue will unlock truths
I didn't see coming this week, but it's actually all
a relief. I could sense an underlying tension or secrecy,
and I hate that feeling of dread more than any event.
Now I know what's what. Now I can react and
rebuild and restore normality on my terms. Yes, it's all
about me, So have those tough conversations, get the truth.
(33:23):
Feel good about having a firm foundation again. Okay whatever, Capricorn,
your card is the hermit music to your ears. I
bet as you are not keen on having your social
battery drained or not, nor having to be on show
or colluding with others. You like your own company. Full
permission to pursue that this week and stay in. Read rest, watch, rubbish,
(33:45):
cook potter, meditate, plan scheme, garden, dense around the lounge right,
lay in, have sex. Aquarius, your card is five of wands.
See yourself as a heat seeking missile.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You are zooming in on hotspots place of tension, stress, conflict,
or blockage, not to add fuel to the fire, but
to identify the root cause issue of the noise and
to consider ways of resolving it. At that level, you
might not get one hundred percent hit rate of success,
but you will tackle more than you think and make
your realm a happier place. All credit to you. People
will remember your good work and you'll be building good
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karma points too. And lastly, Pisces, your card is seven
of wands. You are a tougher cookie than the typical
zodiac schools of thought give you credit for you have
enormous intuition, understanding, and wisdom. You can work people out easily.
You can outwit most. You can find a reason to believe.
That gives you fortitude and resilience when others would quit.
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Find that in yourself this week the reason to believe
the goal. You are driven towards the thing you feel
compelled to do, and that is what is in store
for you this week and your associated Tarot card. May
it bring you great happiness. And I know what none
of this means. It's later with mo Kelly IM six
four Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app as I and
(35:04):
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