March 19, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at what it will take for the struggling Hollywood Box Office to rebound…PLUS – Thoughts on the origin of actor Gary Oldman's infamous "Bring Me Everyone" line, an OnlyFans fetish encounter that’s led to murder charges for a SoCal woman AND Will Smith announcing a new concert tour – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to mo On the Movies. Don't be ridiculous, darling,
it's mo On the Movies. Not a chance.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
KFI. Mister Kelly.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and we often
talk about movies, but also with respect to their importance
on the economy, their importance as far as traditional movie theaters,
brick and mortar movie theaters, and I've always made the
point that you should root for movies to do well.
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Movies doing well helps the overall economy. Since we've always
been we've been talking about the economy as of late
us to whether we're headed towards a recession and the
economy goes, I should say entertainment goes as the economy goes.
As people have more discretionary income, they will spend it
on entertainment, Meaning if entertainment is doing well, that's usually
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a sign of the economy also doing well, or people's
confidence in the economy. A quick way to look at
that is whether people are going to the movies. Right now,
People are kind of going to the movies, but also
there are fewer movies for them to go to, and
the quality of the movies, especially during the winter months,
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has always been lesser. You may not have wanted to
see Anthony Mackie as Captain in America, but Captain America
that movie. The longer it stays in theaters and the
better it does, means that your local movie theater can
pay its employees for a few more weeks or a
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few more months. And if you look at Captain America,
bravenew World, it's been in theaters for about five weeks,
it's coming up on four hundred million. That's less than
what they were hoping for, but it's not a bad return.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It actually beats out the very first Captain America movie
at far surpassed YEP forst Avenger, and it's doing good
for Marvel. But in an age where films, because of
what Disney did with introducing the billion dollar box office smash,
now it's theaters are needing that to stay alive, when arguably,
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if there were just more good films released, theaters could
be packed out. But theaters are only going to be
packed out on the weekend at Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
What's happening in those theaters, and there's something else.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
You have movies now which historically would have ended up
in movie theaters are now just going to streaming. For example,
even though we didn't like it, the Whole Electric State
movie by the Brothers ten years ago, that would have
been in theaters. It might have done horribly, but it
still would have been a big box office movie for
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people to see. It would have been something else for
people to actually go to the movies too, and you
would have had the option to streaming. But now with
the option to streaming, you have some what we call
good B movies which will end up on streaming would
have had never any chance of being in a theater.
But still movie studios are looking at streaming as an
alternative for the movies that they're not real confident about,
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which they don't want to risk having to share money
with theaters for a movie they may not even get
their money back on, so they'd rather sell it to Amazon.
They'd rather sell it to Netflix and be able to
get some of the money back.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
In that regard, you're making me really nostalgic. Try to
imagine the joy Siskel and Ebert would have had just
dropping an absolute deuce from ten thousand feet onto the
electric state.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh, it would have been murdered, It would have been
savage by critics.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
They would have gotten medieval on it.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But the difference is it still would have been in
theaters for the benefit of theaters to decide, and it
probably would have lasted in theaters maybe four or five weeks. Yes,
movie studios would have still split the money with it,
but there's no way Netflix is gonna be able to
make its money back on that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But the movie studio which sold it to Netflix, they
probably got a pretty pity for it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, And looking at or looking on the horizon, there
are not a lot of big hits coming out this summer,
not until the summer, and summer is now happening way well,
it still may we get a little something, but it's
still way off into the future before we get something
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that's going to really drive people back to theaters. So
the question is what can theaters do if we're not
having block buster is, if we're having films that aren't
being supported resoundingly by audiences, what can theaters do to survive?
Because we're coming up on the summer and there isn't
a string of hit movies coming out across the summer.
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There are a handful of movies that are coming out
this summer that we all want to see, period.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And spread out. This is the middle of March. We
know February was not a great month for movie theaters.
We know March has not been. Mickey seventeen has underperformed.
It's still under one hundred million, and it's in its
second week and it needs to pull it at least
one hundred and eighteen million two possibly turn a profit.
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The day the Earth blew up a the Looney Tunes
movie first week did three million. Black Bag did seven
million its first week. The Last Supper Didn't Know That
was coming out did two point seven million. That's not
going to get people in theaters. It's not even if
you want to see the movie, you can wait two
three weeks and catch it on streaming or some other service,
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if you know what I mean. Yes, I'm trying to
think of that. Oh, the next movie I'm looking forward
to is in April, The Accountant too.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's something I and I say I might.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I really do want to see the movie because I
love the first one.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'll go to the theater for that.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But I'm going now to the theater every other month, but
every third month I go to a theater to see
that one. That's what I'm saying. I don't need to.
I may want to, but that's not enough to help
a business stay in business. That's not gonna help a
movie theater thrive because I don't know how much of
a mainstream hit that's going to be one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's our movie, so there fewer showings.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's violent, and it's a more limited, narrow audience that
is targeting.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, I think that's what may be the biggest thing
against that one. I mean something like Sinners. As much
as I want to see this and want to see
it in theaters, I love the trailer. I love everything
about it. You know them, Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler,
they get together and do great movies. But I say
to myself, do I want to be in a theater
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watching it?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Do you have to be? And I don't think I
have to be.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's not one of those appointment destination movies that I say, oh,
got to be there first weekend, you know, and maybe
see multiple times. There are no movies like that until
maybe what the thunderbolts.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
May second, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
May second. Okay, that's the beginning of the summer movie season.
And if I happen to own a movie theater brick
and mortar, I'm thinking, like, how the hell am I
going to keep my doors open at least five days
a week? I'm not talking about seven. Just like Tuesday
through Sunday.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You mentioned Mickey seventeen that opened on the seventh this month,
It's going to be available for streaming on the twenty
fifth in a few days.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
See, that's the big thing right there. Streaming is right
around the corner nowadays with it. And what I honestly
think it may end up happening is you're going to
see the netflixes and all of those companies, the streaming
companies buy out movie theaters and start to just run
the bigger stuff that they have, because first off, you
need to have them play theatrically so that they can
be oscar or competitive. So why not just buy out
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your own theaters and start just screening all of the
stuff that you have in your catalog.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Well, I think there were laws against that, but that
might be relaxed now. I don't know what the latest
is on that.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
The theater industry was dying after the pandemic. This may
be the only thing that keeps it afloat.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Maybe, but it's almost science fiction to think back to
the time when a theater would play a movie for
like a year solid like Thunderball played twenty four hours
in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Here The Karate Kid was in theaters six months. Yeah,
six months.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
That doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You're lucky for you against six weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And if you know, to Sam's point, that a movie's
going to hit streaming, I don't know twenty one days
after it's released. You know what, I'm busy this weekend.
I can't see it this weekend. I'll just go ahead
and wait for it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, you got Disney Plus charging twenty bucks for you
to watch the movie like a week or so after
it comes out in the theaters.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm as a parent. All I have to say as a.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Parent, you don't drive, you know, you don't have to
wrangle kids, And it's actually gonna cost less than trying
to pay for two or three tickets snacks.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right, That's all I have to bargain.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, it's gonna get worse, and I'm not sure it's
gonna get any better. It's Later with Mo Kelly k
if I AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But if you have some time, I encourage you to
watch the full interview between Stephen Colbert and actor Gary Oldman.
It was a special interview if only because Gary Oldman
wasn't even on set. Stephen Colbert went to England to
sit down with Gary Oldman talk about his life, career,
(10:10):
slow horses and some other things.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
But it was.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
A very revealing conversation because one you get to hear
Gary Oldman in his natural speaking voice and it always
throws me off because you always hear him with an
American accent, and you get to see just some of
his natural mannerisms, self deprecating, unassuming. If you didn't know
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him or recognize him, he'd just be a guy. But
he had some anecdotes about his life and career which
were really interesting. So if you get a chance check
out the full interview. It's easy to find Stephen Colbert
and Gary Oldman. One of my favorite movies is The
Professional and it featured a very young Gary Oldman earlier
in his career. He plays a corrupt police lieutenant and
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he's trying to hunt down this assassin played by genre No.
Long story short genre Know is protecting the daughter of
a family who was murdered, and because of Gary Oldman's character,
they're chasing genre No throughout the whole movie. There's a
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scene in it in which genre No takes out this
police battalion, half of them, and then I'll say, one
of his cohorts looks to Gary Oldman and says, who,
what do we do? And Gary Olden's character says, bring everyone,
and he says everyone, and then he repeats it yelling everyone,
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which became a meme. Iconic scene is something that everyone
basically knows from the movie, and we've talked about it
here on the show, but I don't think that anyone
knew that it was actually an outtake that Luke Besson,
the director, to leave in.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So listen to this.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
I do want to get to Leon the professional because
this has become its own moment in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This is a mean people love this.
Speaker 9 (12:11):
I'd like you to walk me through after I show
it to you, walk me through this take, Benny, bring me.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Everyone, leave me and everyone tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Man.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
I did a couple of takes, bring me everyone, you know, everyone,
and to make Luke Besson laugh, just as a joke,
I went to the sound guys and I said, I'm
going to be really, really loud, so you know, And
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I did that, and he kept it and put it
in the film. That was just an outtake. It was
just me having a laugh. People love it, yeah, and
I love it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And he walks away, and your eyeballs are still vager.
Speaker 9 (13:05):
My eyes stay to the spot like you were never
looking at him to begin with.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Yeah, you know, we were shooting that film only in
New York.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We had closed down.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
I forget where it was, but it was like a
main artery of somewhere in New York.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And we blew up that building.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
I mean the explosives that he used with that blast.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
When I opened my pand.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
Thing, there was a huge crowd watching us film and
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at the same time, there was a bank robbery of
the bank across the street from where we were filming.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
An actual bank robbery.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Yeah, And the whole crowd turned and they watched the
bank robbery and the police, and then they turned back
and come to watching, and I wasn't actually in the building.
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I was back on the on the corner to watch
this explosion because Luke said, it's going to be fantastic.
It's going to blow right out across the street. And
they were setting it all up in this crowd, and
then it was like, what the hell and there's a
bank robbery and thing, and I just thought at the times,
oh my god, I God, New York has a.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Fantastic They didn't even didn't even blink. I love that
movie and I love that man.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Now I need to just go back and watch the
movie again, just to reminisce with all the scenes he
was talking about.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Did you see the part of the Colbert interview where
he plays clips from assorted movies of Gary Oldman with
farts sounds of him as Jackson Lamb.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It is a great, great interview. It is a great interview.
You have to see it in his entirety well.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
And he brings Gary Oldman into tears of laughter and
it's so infectious. I found myself nearly weeping with laughter
as well.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, I just I really dug seeing his personality as
in Gary Oldman's personality. You always see him as an actor.
He seems very disarmed in this interview. To Colbert's credit,
he developed a rapport with Oldman and it just translates
very well.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
He's good at that usually actors, and I've been on
a million of these junkets, they're very on message and
when you can break through that, that's a great victory.
And Colbert is a master of doing them. And actually
Kimmel's good at that too, And that's why they have
those jobs.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
They're good at that because a lot of the job
is not only being funny, but being engaging and be
able to get something out of these guests that we
haven't already heard a thousand times, because it's not like
they're getting people that no one gets. They're getting the stars.
But you have to get something out of them that
hasn't already been extracted from by someone else. And I'm
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gonna go there real quick, Mark Runner, if you've seen
the movie The Professional, oh yeah, it's not a movie
that could be remade today because it has literally an
underage Natalie Portman. And in the movie it's hinted at
that there is some sort of romantic interaction between Natalie
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Portman's character and genre.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
No, well, she has a crush on him, and he's
a much older man and she is a minor, and
so it gets pretty uncomfortable. But it never goes there
to the point where it's like, but I thought it
was intimated.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I thought there was suggested that it was more than
just an innocent crush from her on him.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well, he's oblivious, but you saw that.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I remember when it first came out out here, there
was twenty minutes missing from the American cut. It almost
didn't get made.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Then, That's what I thought, Mark. There were two different cuts.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
The international cut has an extra twenty minutes on top
of it, and there's a few scenes where it's not
necessarily playing towards like any kind of intimate connection between
the two characters. It's more of the the lengths that
she had to go to get him to fully commit
to helping her. Like there was some scenes that were
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like her with a gun about to unlive herself. Yeah,
and those were scenes that like now, like even now,
but even back then, they would not screen that in America.
You can only find that on the international version. I
thought there was another version of the movie. Oh, It's
a classic movie. Makes you want to go find out
(17:55):
just to see the differences. Check the international version. It
adds so much weight to Is.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That the one they call leon as opposed to the
professional Yes?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
And when I saw that version, I was hooked. I
was like, Natalie Portman should have got an oscar for that.
It was mind blowing when I first saw that. Damn
it Leon, okakay get it. Yeah, now I know what
to look for.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
See, we all learned something new today, except for Sam
who knew everything. Mark, do you look at the movie
differently now?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Well, I mean it was always kind of uncomfortable, as
you and I were talking about yesterday, times change, and
there were a lot of things that were conventional sort
of sitcom scenarios back in the old days that would
not fly now, particularly an underage girl throwing herself at
an adult, well a middle aged male. So you probably
wouldn't have that these days, would you.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, I think about the Blue Lagoon that wouldn't be
remade today, A pretty baby taxi driver. There are a
lot of movies I think, like no lazy saddles, lazy saddles.
I mean, they were just a lot of movies for
different reasons. We're such a different society now, our concept
of humor and what is acceptable and a post me
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too movement, kids on sets. There's just no way, not
an idea or even execution, would those movies be made now?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
No, No, And just to repeat what we were talking
about off the air, I watched an old movie with
Darren McGavin and the actress who played I think Violet
in Willy Wonka. They're both repo agents and she's a
teenager in the movie, just much more explicitly throwing herself
at middle aged Darren McGavin. In this movie from the
late seventies, to the point where I'm just sitting there
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watching this thing with my mouth hanging open. McGavin hooks
up with Joan Collins and the teenage girl gets jealous
and starts trying even harder to have sex with Darren McGavin.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
And you'd be.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Thrown in jail if you tried to put that out today.
I mean, they don't show anything, you never get to
see anything, but just the subject is even more to
booth than it used to be.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's later with Mo Kelly. Let's talk OnlyFans, that's not tabboo.
We can talk about that and murder when we come back.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A six.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And before I tell you about this story, I have
to tell you about this note I got on the
mister bo Kelly facebook page. It's really funny how people
may perceive me. I don't know what they hear, but
sometimes they just hear what they want to hear. I
never thought of myself as doing a show which is
about morals or my morals, but this is a perfect
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example of people hear what they want to hear. This
comes from America, Dwight Halo and that ought to tell
you something.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Right there.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
His given name America.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, okay, actually no, actually I want to do I'm
not going to read that one. I want to start
with Jeff Wasson j Ef one F W A S
S O M. Jeff says, if you're so pissed as
in Yo you are, if you're so pissed off that
nobody will step up to the plate to run against
basses in Karen Bass, then all the means step up
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to the f and spelled out plate.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
MO G JFC.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You act like you're a know it all your Yo,
you are know it all and so full of yourself,
your self of moral.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Values, self of moral value.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Okay, And I had to explain to this person, I
don't do a show which has anything to do with
my morals. I have my views and opinions. And then
I rattled off a bunch of things which probably would
qualify as not a moral based show.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Did you also explain to the person punctuation.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh you look, ill direct it to I absolutely did. Yes,
It's my duty to explain the difference between you apostrophe
R and you are. These things are important and and
people say to say, Mo, you're just a or Nazi.
I know you say I shouldn't say nazi in today's world.
I'm just saying that's what people call me, grammar nazi.
And I tried to explain to them, if you can't
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handle basic spelling, why is it I'm supposed to listen
to you on the much more complex issues. If you
didn't pay attention in second grade, don't try to come
here and school me on anything.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It really is hard.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
To take someone seriously when they're not fluent in their
native language.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And complaining about people not speaking their native language and
them calling you an idiot, all of it together like
a gulash. Okay, since this is not a moral show,
let's talk about OnlyFans and fetishes and murder. A thirty
one year old woman has been charged with murder after
a man who paid her to engage in fetish acts
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died after he'd had a bag on his head secured
with duct take during their encounter in an Escondido home.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
This is a California story.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
She recorded the interactions plural to use this content for
her OnlyFans. Page and video showed Michael Dale, fifty five,
same age as me. That's kind of scary in a
secured bag for at least eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Eight minutes. Yes, she also.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Allegedly glued boots to his feet, allegedly also allegedly done
at his request.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Mikaela Brashai. I can't pronounce that damn name.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Are Yeah, Michaela now sits in jail without bail after
being arrested in charge with murder last month, nearly two
years after the death. So this is not recent. It
took a while to get it, to get it to
get charges filed on her. The San Bernardino County woman
pleaded not guilty in this is Superior court, but in
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a narrative laid out as far as what happened. The
incident allegedly occurred between two contenting adults during what appears
to be bondage discipline dominance. Submissions say and masochism BDSM
to the rest of us, while legal experts say a
victim's consent to take part in dangerous acts is not
a defense to homicide.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It may be a mitigating factor here. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
But and I'm so glad Sam is here because and
I say that because this is something that I had
to discuss with and warn my son about a new
trend that was going around young people his age, and
that was suffocation sex and bringing someone near to the
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point of choking or blacking out.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's called breathplay. Boom.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
That's that's the title. What your field of study is?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
What?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Well, I'm in psychology, but I'm getting my PhD in
human sexuality.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Okay and continue.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Yeah, No, it's a part of the BDSM. Under the
umbrella of BDSM, it's breath play. A lot of times,
you like autoerotic asphyxiation, the thing, David Ardine, Uh, it's
apparently the intensity of the climax becomes enhanced.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Uh, if you are on the verge of death. Okay,
is there a line between just passing out and death?
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Yes, you wake up from passing out, but it.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You kind of teed him up for that one I did.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But I'm saying, isn't a thin line, uh in the practice,
in this practice of BDSM, Well, no, it's actually.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
A pretty thick line.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
You should be able to say whatever the word is
when you've had enough. And usually that's the thing what
people don't quite understand from the outside looking in is
when it comes to like successful couples, some of the
best ones are the bad relationship couples because you have
to have a really good level of communication with each
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other so that you avoid having stuff like that happen.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
All right, and I'm on the outside looking in, So
I'm going to ask the questions while I can have a.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Safe word, tap out, do something.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Yeah, And if this person was in a bag and
had who knows if they were gagged or if they
you know, they may have not been able to express
you know clearly that they were in actual life distress
at that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Instead of duct tape, go with scotch tape. Have you
ever seen the movie Four Brothers.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
In there there is a scene where one of the
brothers takes a cop hostage and he puts a bag
over it, and he ties the bag on with the belt.
And it's relevant to this because most people, according to
the scene, always try to go for the belt as
opposed to just pulling the bag off, which is easier.
And I'm thinking after six seven minutes had passed with
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the bag, most likely this dude is not responding.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
He might have his hands restrained, he may have a gag,
he may not be able to effectively communicate that gag
dying inside of there.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And she also could have been under and so could
he have been under the influence of mind enhancing drugs
and things like that which have been and the report
that I read about it are part of what's brought
into to further.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And enhance sexual climax.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You're not putting a bag over my head ever, ever, ever,
under any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Who is that warning to.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm just saying whoever might be listening. That's kind of
a lifelong expectation, all right, from my early days as
a wee.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Lad to now no bad overhead.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
That's not your bag. I had to the door was open,
no reason for you to walk through. I'll see myself out.
But I will say this, we all like what we
like a common refrain. I don't judge other people for
what they like. It just may not be something that
I understand.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But I know in an abstract sense, if we were
to be aware of what everyone liked, we would probably
say really because and you know better than I do, Sam,
it's probably a wide spectrum.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Oh yeah, what if it brings you pleasure, it doesn't
violate anybody else's boundaries and doesn't cause anybody to stress.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's fair game.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And Sam and I used to go to the same
place called porn Star Karaoke at startoed yep, so we've
seen some stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Oh yeah, And I'm still very I'm very good friends
with a lot of people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Still oh friends, is that what they call it? Oh yeah?
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Speaker 1 (29:05):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Will Smith is the latest latest example of someone who
has not been canceled. He literally smacked the crap out
of someone in the middle of the Oscars on worldwide
television and streaming, had a fifteen minute Oscar speech after that,
had two movies that I know of, and now he's
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getting ready to go out on tour as a recording artist.
That to me does not sound like you're actually canceled.
That says to me, you're just living life.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
That's right. Wesmothers just announced his he's hitting the road
in support of his first full length album in twenty years,
based on a true story. His tour kicks off in June.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
But here's the bad news.
Speaker 11 (29:59):
All the summer days are crossed the bun No dates
yet here set in the United States as of yet.
Well Smith's new album.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
March twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
March twenty eighth, the album drops, He's going on a
European tour. It seems like, I mean, with the exception
of the Oscars, Will Smith is none the worse. It
seems like that he has not been severely inconvenience yet.
He probably lost some money, probably lost some endorsements, but
as far as I can see, he's been able to
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continue with his career. In other words, he's been more
busy in his career than Chris Rock has been in
his true.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It's interesting to me because in the same day that
Will Smith or this news has dropped about him and
carrying on his career, going on tour and not being canceled,
someone who actually wasn't being canceled. But they are continuing
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to drug drag his name through the mud, even though
he has paid for his.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Crime. And I say crime because of the conviction.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Jonathan Major's just like Rolling Stone, brought his name back
up today because there is allegedly audio where he says
he actually aggressed against his girlfriend. They and it was
a very misleading headline because they didn't tell you the
whole story.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
They just said, break you news.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Jonathan Major's admits that he aggressed, and then they leave
it at that.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
And I thought it had something to do with some
other woman, some other incident, you know, maybe it's his
now girlfriend slash fiance. I don't know what the title
is making good and it had nothing to do with
any of that, nothing to do with any of that.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
They're just bringing it back up as if this is
a way to remind you or maybe say hey, hey, hey,
he's supposed to be canceled. He's not, though because he's
got a movie coming out, even though it's independent with
magazine Dreams, just like Will Smith had to wait a
little bit, come on back after that grand slapping and
(32:02):
and and rant, grand slapping, rant, and absolute total disrespect
for the moment, going on comedy sketches and rapping this,
that and the other. About the slapping, It's interesting to
me that on the same day The Rolling Stone says, hey, man,
you know, we really need to do really need to
kick up some dirt on Jonathan Major's.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And there's no needs to kick up dirt on someone
if they're already canceled, which says to me, they're not
already canceled.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Dah.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I've been long saying that canceled culture does not exist. Now,
there might be criticism culture, it might be uncomfortable for
an artist, but I can't think of anyone who's completely
left public view. I mean not even who's the guy
Kevin Spacey. No, he's not canceled either. The Brothers, the
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Tape Brothers, they're not canceled either.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Keep on going with.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Alec Baldwin. He's not canceled. He's got a damn reality show.
Yeah yeah, now is cosy canceled. He's kind of self canceled.
He's I mean, he's trying to do a comedy tour. Yeah,
but no one he was trying to do a comedy
tour before he was quote unquote canceled and went to prison.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I don't I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
There's really a market for anyone who's eighty five eighty
six years old in entertainment.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I would love to get the assignment to review that show.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Oh look, I would be there because he probably doesn't
like me anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But you know, that's another story. That's a whole nothing,
that's a whole not story. But yeah, I can't really
think of anyone who's canceled.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Well, can you please get in touch with Bill Maher
and Barry Weiss and let them know this news flash
that there's no cancel culture because a lot of people
spend significant time losing their minds about it.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Bill Maher we had talked about last week. He thought that,
you know, cancel culture was just as pervasive as ever.
And I don't understand that because it's not like you
can really point to anything. I think he misconstrues criticism
and loss of standing is somehow being canceled. There has
never been a time in which you could do which
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you could avoid any type of social consequence.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Well, it's called living in a society. Ill I believe
is that the technical term that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to mo On the Movies. Don't be ridiculous, darling,
it's mo On the Movies. Not a chance.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and we often
talk about movies, but also with respect to their importance
on the economy, their importance as far as traditional movie theaters,
brick and mortar movie theaters, and I've always made the
point that you should root for movies to do well.
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Movies doing well helps the overall economy. Since we've always
been we've been talking about the economy as of late
us to whether we're headed towards a recession and the
economy goes, I should say entertainment goes as the economy goes.
As people have more discretionary income, they will spend it
on entertainment, Meaning if entertainment is doing well, that's usually
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a sign of the economy also doing well, or people's
confidence in the economy. A quick way to look at
that is whether people are going to the movies. Right now,
People are kind of going to the movies, but also
there are fewer movies for them to go to, and
the quality of the movies, especially during the winter months,
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has always been lesser. You may not have wanted to
see Anthony Mackie as Captain in America, but Captain America
that movie. The longer it stays in theaters and the
better it does, means that your local movie theater can
pay its employees for a few more weeks or a
(01:57):
few more months. And if you look at Captain America,
bravenew World, it's been in theaters for about five weeks,
it's coming up on four hundred million. That's less than
what they were hoping for, but it's not a bad return.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It actually beats out the very first Captain America movie
at far surpassed YEP forst Avenger, and it's doing good
for Marvel. But in an age where films, because of
what Disney did with introducing the billion dollar box office smash,
now it's theaters are needing that to stay alive, when arguably,
(02:34):
if there were just more good films released, theaters could
be packed out. But theaters are only going to be
packed out on the weekend at Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
What's happening in those theaters, and there's something else.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
You have movies now which historically would have ended up
in movie theaters are now just going to streaming. For example,
even though we didn't like it, the Whole Electric State
movie by the Brothers ten years ago, that would have
been in theaters. It might have done horribly, but it
still would have been a big box office movie for
(03:09):
people to see. It would have been something else for
people to actually go to the movies too, and you
would have had the option to streaming. But now with
the option to streaming, you have some what we call
good B movies which will end up on streaming would
have had never any chance of being in a theater.
But still movie studios are looking at streaming as an
alternative for the movies that they're not real confident about,
(03:34):
which they don't want to risk having to share money
with theaters for a movie they may not even get
their money back on, so they'd rather sell it to Amazon.
They'd rather sell it to Netflix and be able to
get some of the money back.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
In that regard, you're making me really nostalgic. Try to
imagine the joy Siskel and Ebert would have had just
dropping an absolute deuce from ten thousand feet onto the
electric state.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh, it would have been murdered, It would have been
savage by critics.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
They would have gotten medieval on it.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But the difference is it still would have been in
theaters for the benefit of theaters to decide, and it
probably would have lasted in theaters maybe four or five weeks. Yes,
movie studios would have still split the money with it,
but there's no way Netflix is gonna be able to
make its money back on that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But the movie studio which sold it to Netflix, they
probably got a pretty pity for it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, And looking at or looking on the horizon, there
are not a lot of big hits coming out this summer,
not until the summer, and summer is now happening way well,
it still may we get a little something, but it's
still way off into the future before we get something
(04:51):
that's going to really drive people back to theaters. So
the question is what can theaters do if we're not
having block buster is, if we're having films that aren't
being supported resoundingly by audiences, what can theaters do to survive?
Because we're coming up on the summer and there isn't
a string of hit movies coming out across the summer.
(05:13):
There are a handful of movies that are coming out
this summer that we all want to see, period.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And spread out. This is the middle of March. We
know February was not a great month for movie theaters.
We know March has not been. Mickey seventeen has underperformed.
It's still under one hundred million, and it's in its
second week and it needs to pull it at least
one hundred and eighteen million two possibly turn a profit.
(05:43):
The day the Earth blew up a the Looney Tunes
movie first week did three million. Black Bag did seven
million its first week. The Last Supper Didn't Know That
was coming out did two point seven million. That's not
going to get people in theaters. It's not even if
you want to see the movie, you can wait two
three weeks and catch it on streaming or some other service,
(06:04):
if you know what I mean. Yes, I'm trying to
think of that. Oh, the next movie I'm looking forward
to is in April, The Accountant too.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's something I and I say I might.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I really do want to see the movie because I
love the first one.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'll go to the theater for that.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But I'm going now to the theater every other month, but
every third month I go to a theater to see
that one. That's what I'm saying. I don't need to.
I may want to, but that's not enough to help
a business stay in business. That's not gonna help a
movie theater thrive because I don't know how much of
a mainstream hit that's going to be one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's our movie, so there fewer showings.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's violent, and it's a more limited, narrow audience that
is targeting.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, I think that's what may be the biggest thing
against that one. I mean something like Sinners. As much
as I want to see this and want to see
it in theaters, I love the trailer. I love everything
about it. You know them, Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler,
they get together and do great movies. But I say
to myself, do I want to be in a theater
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watching it?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Do you have to be? And I don't think I
have to be.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's not one of those appointment destination movies that I say, oh,
got to be there first weekend, you know, and maybe
see multiple times. There are no movies like that until
maybe what the thunderbolts.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
May second, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
May second. Okay, that's the beginning of the summer movie season.
And if I happen to own a movie theater brick
and mortar, I'm thinking, like, how the hell am I
going to keep my doors open at least five days
a week? I'm not talking about seven. Just like Tuesday
through Sunday.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You mentioned Mickey seventeen that opened on the seventh this month,
It's going to be available for streaming on the twenty
fifth in a few days.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
See, that's the big thing right there. Streaming is right
around the corner nowadays with it. And what I honestly
think it may end up happening is you're going to
see the netflixes and all of those companies, the streaming
companies buy out movie theaters and start to just run
the bigger stuff that they have, because first off, you
need to have them play theatrically so that they can
be oscar or competitive. So why not just buy out
(08:20):
your own theaters and start just screening all of the
stuff that you have in your catalog.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Well, I think there were laws against that, but that
might be relaxed now. I don't know what the latest
is on that.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
The theater industry was dying after the pandemic. This may
be the only thing that keeps it afloat.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Maybe, but it's almost science fiction to think back to
the time when a theater would play a movie for
like a year solid like Thunderball played twenty four hours
in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Here The Karate Kid was in theaters six months. Yeah,
six months.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
That doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You're lucky for you against six weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And if you know, to Sam's point, that a movie's
going to hit streaming, I don't know twenty one days
after it's released. You know what, I'm busy this weekend.
I can't see it this weekend. I'll just go ahead
and wait for it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, you got Disney Plus charging twenty bucks for you
to watch the movie like a week or so after
it comes out in the theaters.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm as a parent. All I have to say as a.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Parent, you don't drive, you know, you don't have to
wrangle kids, And it's actually gonna cost less than trying
to pay for two or three tickets snacks.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right, That's all I have to bargain.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, it's gonna get worse, and I'm not sure it's
gonna get any better. It's Later with Mo Kelly k
if I AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (09:48):
But if you have some time, I encourage you to
watch the full interview between Stephen Colbert and actor Gary Oldman.
It was a special interview if only because Gary Oldman
wasn't even on set. Stephen Colbert went to England to
sit down with Gary Oldman talk about his life, career,
(10:10):
slow horses and some other things.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
But it was.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
A very revealing conversation because one you get to hear
Gary Oldman in his natural speaking voice and it always
throws me off because you always hear him with an
American accent, and you get to see just some of
his natural mannerisms, self deprecating, unassuming. If you didn't know
(10:36):
him or recognize him, he'd just be a guy. But
he had some anecdotes about his life and career which
were really interesting. So if you get a chance check
out the full interview. It's easy to find Stephen Colbert
and Gary Oldman. One of my favorite movies is The
Professional and it featured a very young Gary Oldman earlier
in his career. He plays a corrupt police lieutenant and
(11:00):
he's trying to hunt down this assassin played by genre No.
Long story short genre Know is protecting the daughter of
a family who was murdered, and because of Gary Oldman's character,
they're chasing genre No throughout the whole movie. There's a
(11:20):
scene in it in which genre No takes out this
police battalion, half of them, and then I'll say, one
of his cohorts looks to Gary Oldman and says, who,
what do we do? And Gary Olden's character says, bring everyone,
and he says everyone, and then he repeats it yelling everyone,
(11:44):
which became a meme. Iconic scene is something that everyone
basically knows from the movie, and we've talked about it
here on the show, but I don't think that anyone
knew that it was actually an outtake that Luke Besson,
the director, to leave in.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So listen to this.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
I do want to get to Leon the professional because
this has become its own moment in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This is a mean people love this.
Speaker 9 (12:11):
I'd like you to walk me through after I show
it to you, walk me through this take, Benny, bring me.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Everyone, leave me and everyone tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Man.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
I did a couple of takes, bring me everyone, you know, everyone,
and to make Luke Besson laugh, just as a joke,
I went to the sound guys and I said, I'm
going to be really, really loud, so you know, And
(12:53):
I did that, and he kept it and put it
in the film. That was just an outtake. It was
just me having a laugh. People love it, yeah, and
I love it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And he walks away, and your eyeballs are still vager.
Speaker 9 (13:05):
My eyes stay to the spot like you were never
looking at him to begin with.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Yeah, you know, we were shooting that film only in
New York.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We had closed down.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
I forget where it was, but it was like a
main artery of somewhere in New York.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And we blew up that building.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
I mean the explosives that he used with that blast.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
When I opened my pand.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
Thing, there was a huge crowd watching us film and
(13:57):
at the same time, there was a bank robbery of
the bank across the street from where we were filming.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
An actual bank robbery.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Yeah, And the whole crowd turned and they watched the
bank robbery and the police, and then they turned back
and come to watching, and I wasn't actually in the building.
(14:28):
I was back on the on the corner to watch
this explosion because Luke said, it's going to be fantastic.
It's going to blow right out across the street. And
they were setting it all up in this crowd, and
then it was like, what the hell and there's a
bank robbery and thing, and I just thought at the times,
oh my god, I God, New York has a.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Fantastic They didn't even didn't even blink. I love that
movie and I love that man.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Now I need to just go back and watch the
movie again, just to reminisce with all the scenes he
was talking about.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Did you see the part of the Colbert interview where
he plays clips from assorted movies of Gary Oldman with
farts sounds of him as Jackson Lamb.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It is a great, great interview. It is a great interview.
You have to see it in his entirety well.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
And he brings Gary Oldman into tears of laughter and
it's so infectious. I found myself nearly weeping with laughter
as well.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, I just I really dug seeing his personality as
in Gary Oldman's personality. You always see him as an actor.
He seems very disarmed in this interview. To Colbert's credit,
he developed a rapport with Oldman and it just translates
very well.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
He's good at that usually actors, and I've been on
a million of these junkets, they're very on message and
when you can break through that, that's a great victory.
And Colbert is a master of doing them. And actually
Kimmel's good at that too, And that's why they have
those jobs.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
They're good at that because a lot of the job
is not only being funny, but being engaging and be
able to get something out of these guests that we
haven't already heard a thousand times, because it's not like
they're getting people that no one gets. They're getting the stars.
But you have to get something out of them that
hasn't already been extracted from by someone else. And I'm
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gonna go there real quick, Mark Runner, if you've seen
the movie The Professional, oh yeah, it's not a movie
that could be remade today because it has literally an
underage Natalie Portman. And in the movie it's hinted at
that there is some sort of romantic interaction between Natalie
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Portman's character and genre.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
No, well, she has a crush on him, and he's
a much older man and she is a minor, and
so it gets pretty uncomfortable. But it never goes there
to the point where it's like, but I thought it
was intimated.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I thought there was suggested that it was more than
just an innocent crush from her on him.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well, he's oblivious, but you saw that.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I remember when it first came out out here, there
was twenty minutes missing from the American cut. It almost
didn't get made.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Then, That's what I thought, Mark. There were two different cuts.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
The international cut has an extra twenty minutes on top
of it, and there's a few scenes where it's not
necessarily playing towards like any kind of intimate connection between
the two characters. It's more of the the lengths that
she had to go to get him to fully commit
to helping her. Like there was some scenes that were
(17:32):
like her with a gun about to unlive herself. Yeah,
and those were scenes that like now, like even now,
but even back then, they would not screen that in America.
You can only find that on the international version. I
thought there was another version of the movie. Oh, It's
a classic movie. Makes you want to go find out
(17:55):
just to see the differences. Check the international version. It
adds so much weight to Is.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That the one they call leon as opposed to the
professional Yes?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
And when I saw that version, I was hooked. I
was like, Natalie Portman should have got an oscar for that.
It was mind blowing when I first saw that. Damn
it Leon, okakay get it. Yeah, now I know what
to look for.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
See, we all learned something new today, except for Sam
who knew everything. Mark, do you look at the movie
differently now?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Well, I mean it was always kind of uncomfortable, as
you and I were talking about yesterday, times change, and
there were a lot of things that were conventional sort
of sitcom scenarios back in the old days that would
not fly now, particularly an underage girl throwing herself at
an adult, well a middle aged male. So you probably
wouldn't have that these days, would you.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, I think about the Blue Lagoon that wouldn't be
remade today, A pretty baby taxi driver. There are a
lot of movies I think, like no lazy saddles, lazy saddles.
I mean, they were just a lot of movies for
different reasons. We're such a different society now, our concept
of humor and what is acceptable and a post me
(19:09):
too movement, kids on sets. There's just no way, not
an idea or even execution, would those movies be made now?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
No, No, And just to repeat what we were talking
about off the air, I watched an old movie with
Darren McGavin and the actress who played I think Violet
in Willy Wonka. They're both repo agents and she's a
teenager in the movie, just much more explicitly throwing herself
at middle aged Darren McGavin. In this movie from the
late seventies, to the point where I'm just sitting there
(19:39):
watching this thing with my mouth hanging open. McGavin hooks
up with Joan Collins and the teenage girl gets jealous
and starts trying even harder to have sex with Darren McGavin.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
And you'd be.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Thrown in jail if you tried to put that out today.
I mean, they don't show anything, you never get to
see anything, but just the subject is even more to
booth than it used to be.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
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We can talk about that and murder when we come back.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
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And before I tell you about this story, I have
to tell you about this note I got on the
mister bo Kelly facebook page. It's really funny how people
may perceive me. I don't know what they hear, but
sometimes they just hear what they want to hear. I
never thought of myself as doing a show which is
about morals or my morals, but this is a perfect
(20:37):
example of people hear what they want to hear. This
comes from America, Dwight Halo and that ought to tell
you something.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Right there.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
His given name America.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, okay, actually no, actually I want to do I'm
not going to read that one. I want to start
with Jeff Wasson j Ef one F W A S
S O M. Jeff says, if you're so pissed as
in Yo you are, if you're so pissed off that
nobody will step up to the plate to run against
basses in Karen Bass, then all the means step up
(21:12):
to the f and spelled out plate.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
MO G JFC.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You act like you're a know it all your Yo,
you are know it all and so full of yourself,
your self of moral.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Values, self of moral value.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Okay, And I had to explain to this person, I
don't do a show which has anything to do with
my morals. I have my views and opinions. And then
I rattled off a bunch of things which probably would
qualify as not a moral based show.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Did you also explain to the person punctuation.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh you look, ill direct it to I absolutely did. Yes,
It's my duty to explain the difference between you apostrophe
R and you are. These things are important and and
people say to say, Mo, you're just a or Nazi.
I know you say I shouldn't say nazi in today's world.
I'm just saying that's what people call me, grammar nazi.
And I tried to explain to them, if you can't
(22:07):
handle basic spelling, why is it I'm supposed to listen
to you on the much more complex issues. If you
didn't pay attention in second grade, don't try to come
here and school me on anything.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It really is hard.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
To take someone seriously when they're not fluent in their
native language.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And complaining about people not speaking their native language and
them calling you an idiot, all of it together like
a gulash. Okay, since this is not a moral show,
let's talk about OnlyFans and fetishes and murder. A thirty
one year old woman has been charged with murder after
a man who paid her to engage in fetish acts
(22:46):
died after he'd had a bag on his head secured
with duct take during their encounter in an Escondido home.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
This is a California story.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
She recorded the interactions plural to use this content for
her OnlyFans. Page and video showed Michael Dale, fifty five,
same age as me. That's kind of scary in a
secured bag for at least eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Eight minutes. Yes, she also.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Allegedly glued boots to his feet, allegedly also allegedly done
at his request.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Mikaela Brashai. I can't pronounce that damn name.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Are Yeah, Michaela now sits in jail without bail after
being arrested in charge with murder last month, nearly two
years after the death. So this is not recent. It
took a while to get it, to get it to
get charges filed on her. The San Bernardino County woman
pleaded not guilty in this is Superior court, but in
(23:50):
a narrative laid out as far as what happened. The
incident allegedly occurred between two contenting adults during what appears
to be bondage discipline dominance. Submissions say and masochism BDSM
to the rest of us, while legal experts say a
victim's consent to take part in dangerous acts is not
a defense to homicide.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It may be a mitigating factor here. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
But and I'm so glad Sam is here because and
I say that because this is something that I had
to discuss with and warn my son about a new
trend that was going around young people his age, and
that was suffocation sex and bringing someone near to the
(24:40):
point of choking or blacking out.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's called breathplay. Boom.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
That's that's the title. What your field of study is?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
What?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Well, I'm in psychology, but I'm getting my PhD in
human sexuality.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Okay and continue.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Yeah, No, it's a part of the BDSM. Under the
umbrella of BDSM, it's breath play. A lot of times,
you like autoerotic asphyxiation, the thing, David Ardine, Uh, it's
apparently the intensity of the climax becomes enhanced.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Uh, if you are on the verge of death. Okay,
is there a line between just passing out and death?
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Yes, you wake up from passing out, but it.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You kind of teed him up for that one I did.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But I'm saying, isn't a thin line, uh in the practice,
in this practice of BDSM, Well, no, it's actually.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
A pretty thick line.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
You should be able to say whatever the word is
when you've had enough. And usually that's the thing what
people don't quite understand from the outside looking in is
when it comes to like successful couples, some of the
best ones are the bad relationship couples because you have
to have a really good level of communication with each
(26:06):
other so that you avoid having stuff like that happen.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
All right, and I'm on the outside looking in, So
I'm going to ask the questions while I can have a.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Safe word, tap out, do something.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Yeah, And if this person was in a bag and
had who knows if they were gagged or if they
you know, they may have not been able to express
you know clearly that they were in actual life distress
at that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Instead of duct tape, go with scotch tape. Have you
ever seen the movie Four Brothers.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
In there there is a scene where one of the
brothers takes a cop hostage and he puts a bag
over it, and he ties the bag on with the belt.
And it's relevant to this because most people, according to
the scene, always try to go for the belt as
opposed to just pulling the bag off, which is easier.
And I'm thinking after six seven minutes had passed with
(26:58):
the bag, most likely this dude is not responding.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
He might have his hands restrained, he may have a gag,
he may not be able to effectively communicate that gag
dying inside of there.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And she also could have been under and so could
he have been under the influence of mind enhancing drugs
and things like that which have been and the report
that I read about it are part of what's brought
into to further.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And enhance sexual climax.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You're not putting a bag over my head ever, ever, ever,
under any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Who is that warning to.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm just saying whoever might be listening. That's kind of
a lifelong expectation, all right, from my early days as
a wee.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Lad to now no bad overhead.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
That's not your bag. I had to the door was open,
no reason for you to walk through. I'll see myself out.
But I will say this, we all like what we
like a common refrain. I don't judge other people for
what they like. It just may not be something that
I understand.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But I know in an abstract sense, if we were
to be aware of what everyone liked, we would probably
say really because and you know better than I do, Sam,
it's probably a wide spectrum.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Oh yeah, what if it brings you pleasure, it doesn't
violate anybody else's boundaries and doesn't cause anybody to stress.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's fair game.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And Sam and I used to go to the same
place called porn Star Karaoke at startoed yep, so we've
seen some stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Oh yeah, And I'm still very I'm very good friends
with a lot of people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Still oh friends, is that what they call it? Oh yeah?
I am six forty well live everywhere in Nahart Radio Up.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Will Smith is the latest latest example of someone who
has not been canceled. He literally smacked the crap out
of someone in the middle of the Oscars on worldwide
television and streaming, had a fifteen minute Oscar speech after that,
had two movies that I know of, and now he's
(29:34):
getting ready to go out on tour as a recording artist.
That to me does not sound like you're actually canceled.
That says to me, you're just living life.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
That's right. Wesmothers just announced his he's hitting the road
in support of his first full length album in twenty years,
based on a true story. His tour kicks off in June.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
But here's the bad news.
Speaker 11 (29:59):
All the summer days are crossed the bun No dates
yet here set in the United States as of yet.
Well Smith's new album.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
March twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
March twenty eighth, the album drops, He's going on a
European tour. It seems like, I mean, with the exception
of the Oscars, Will Smith is none the worse. It
seems like that he has not been severely inconvenience yet.
He probably lost some money, probably lost some endorsements, but
as far as I can see, he's been able to
(30:29):
continue with his career. In other words, he's been more
busy in his career than Chris Rock has been in
his true.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It's interesting to me because in the same day that
Will Smith or this news has dropped about him and
carrying on his career, going on tour and not being canceled,
someone who actually wasn't being canceled. But they are continuing
(30:57):
to drug drag his name through the mud, even though
he has paid for his.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Crime. And I say crime because of the conviction.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Jonathan Major's just like Rolling Stone, brought his name back
up today because there is allegedly audio where he says
he actually aggressed against his girlfriend. They and it was
a very misleading headline because they didn't tell you the
whole story.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
They just said, break you news.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Jonathan Major's admits that he aggressed, and then they leave
it at that.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
And I thought it had something to do with some
other woman, some other incident, you know, maybe it's his
now girlfriend slash fiance. I don't know what the title
is making good and it had nothing to do with
any of that, nothing to do with any of that.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
They're just bringing it back up as if this is
a way to remind you or maybe say hey, hey, hey,
he's supposed to be canceled. He's not, though because he's
got a movie coming out, even though it's independent with
magazine Dreams, just like Will Smith had to wait a
little bit, come on back after that grand slapping and
(32:02):
and and rant, grand slapping, rant, and absolute total disrespect
for the moment, going on comedy sketches and rapping this,
that and the other. About the slapping, It's interesting to
me that on the same day The Rolling Stone says, hey, man,
you know, we really need to do really need to
kick up some dirt on Jonathan Major's.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And there's no needs to kick up dirt on someone
if they're already canceled, which says to me, they're not
already canceled.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Dah.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I've been long saying that canceled culture does not exist. Now,
there might be criticism culture, it might be uncomfortable for
an artist, but I can't think of anyone who's completely
left public view. I mean not even who's the guy
Kevin Spacey. No, he's not canceled either. The Brothers, the
(32:55):
Tape Brothers, they're not canceled either.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Keep on going with.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Alec Baldwin. He's not canceled. He's got a damn reality show.
Yeah yeah, now is cosy canceled. He's kind of self canceled.
He's I mean, he's trying to do a comedy tour. Yeah,
but no one he was trying to do a comedy
tour before he was quote unquote canceled and went to prison.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I don't I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
There's really a market for anyone who's eighty five eighty
six years old in entertainment.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I would love to get the assignment to review that show.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Oh look, I would be there because he probably doesn't
like me anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But you know, that's another story. That's a whole nothing,
that's a whole not story. But yeah, I can't really
think of anyone who's canceled.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Well, can you please get in touch with Bill Maher
and Barry Weiss and let them know this news flash
that there's no cancel culture because a lot of people
spend significant time losing their minds about it.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Bill Maher we had talked about last week. He thought that,
you know, cancel culture was just as pervasive as ever.
And I don't understand that because it's not like you
can really point to anything. I think he misconstrues criticism
and loss of standing is somehow being canceled. There has
never been a time in which you could do which
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you could avoid any type of social consequence.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Well, it's called living in a society. Ill I believe
is that the technical term that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
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