April 27, 2024 • 34 mins
Minimum wage chat and fast food workers // Bad Customer Service / Trying to cancel a subscription // Being self-sustainable in a relationship // Stay at home significant others, pros and cons
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Kf I am sixty. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. The whole MyWay of the Highway. Stuff that seems
to be pervading all news nowadays justmakes me crazy. Like, for instance,
we got the new minimum waging.Oh I'm Chris Meryl by the way
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in from Mo tonight and catch meon Sunday afternoons. Blah blah blah.
So that new minimum wage hike forfast food workers, right, which appeal
apply excuse me to the large fastfood joints. You have to have more
than sixty franchises. So this isn'tmom and pop places, but Mama pop
places say, well, listen,my employees are gonna leave because they can
go make more money a McDonald's.Okay, it's a fair argument. I
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get that. But I saw anotherheadline this week. I love these those
headlines because the headlines are not writtenfor They're not written for clarity. They're
written for clicks. Right, It'snot about telling the truth. It's about
getting the most eyes on your product. It's about clicks. It's about viewers.
It's about honestly listeners, So becareful. Maybe I'm feeding you full
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of crap because I just want youto listen longer. Could be hit,
could be true. So I sawthis story for the Daily Mail had it,
so you know already we're dealing withone of the more credible news sources
out there. Fast food chains inCalifornia are replacing staff with digital order kiosks
as a way to cut costs afterthe minimum wage in the state was hiked
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to twenty dollars an hour. Aftertwo years of price raises caused by higher
costs for food, restaurant bosses saythey cannot raise them again. Now,
mind you, They say price increasesbecause of higher costs of food. However,
if you take a look back,you find out that over the course
of the last ten years, McDonald'son average, has doubled the prices of
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their menu. Inflation over the lastten years has gone up to thirty percent.
They've doubled their prices. Other fastchains have followed suit, where they
are far outpacing inflation. It's alittle bit like college tuition. Well,
we have to raise our prices becausecosts are going up. Now you raise
your prices because you can. Thecost of medical care in America, well,
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you know, We've got a lotof money that's sunk into research and
development and well medicare costs and well, you know, government reimbursement isn't very
high, so we have to makeup for that. No, you don't
make up for your profiteering off ofit. That's what's happening. You are
a modern day pirate. And thesenarratives that we have just play right into
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it because it's what people want tohear. So anytime you hear that the
minimum wage, somebody's considering a minimumwage, what do you have? Give
this the exact same argument. Thishas been going on since the inception of
minimum wage, and that is minimumwage is just going to drive up the
costs. You can't raise minimum wage. If you raise minimum wage, will
never be able to afford to live. And yet here we are now,
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I will say this, the marketwill probably help out with the minimum wage.
Federal minimum wage is still at whatseven and a quarter an hour.
States have raised their own minimum wages, but the federal minimum wage hasn't gone
up a whole lot. Some statesstill abide by that federal minimum wage,
and yet they can't seem to findworkers. Huh. I recall when we
started seeing signs where McDonald's was hiringfor twenty one dollars an hour. Twenty
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one dollars a hour flip Burgers.Yeah, do you know why, because
nobody wants to do it. Forseventeen dollars an hour. It had been
the minimum wage for fast food restaurantslike sixteen Bucks, and then they raised
it to twenty dollars an hour,and people screamed, no, what are
you doing. I can't afford abig mac anymore. And yet when you
drive by these stores that say helpwanted. And I looked this up on
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the micjobs website a week or twoago, and there were two hundred jobs
available in in the not just themetro, but in the city limits of
luss Angels. There are like twohundred McDonald's jobs. And McDonald's has those
signs up front that says, oh, up to make up to twenty two
dollars an hour. So we startscreaming when they start offering twenty dollars an
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hour. And now what we havegoing on is another built in excuse for
companies to cut staff. And theysay, well, this is all because
of Governor Knewsome. He did this, And they said, well, hire
food cost. You know, wehad to raise prices. So they highlight
this. One dude who runs aBurger King franchise has one hundred and forty
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restaurants on the West Coast, andhe says he plans to have digital kiosks
in all of them in the nexttwo months because until the wage hike,
he planned to roll them out overthe next five to ten years. But
now the wage hike, he's gotto roll them out sooner. Wait a
minute, let's do some maths onthat. So you got to go that
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owns a bunch of fast food restaurantsthat planned on replacing workers with automation.
Anyway, his plans, by theway, as you read further in the
Daily Mail article, which of courseblames Newsome and California politicians for destroying transfats
or something, he says, well, looks, I had to do this,
had to do it, and Iwasn't going to for another five to
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ten years, because I mean,my planned had just been to replace people
when I was remodeling my stores.So we had a hold on me.
You had enough profits out of thatprevious minimum wage that you could afford to
remodel your stores and replace all ofthe workers. But now that the minimum
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wage has gone up, you sayyou have no choice but to do what
you were going to do anyway.Now, granted, the timeline's a little
different. And if you're working atone of those burger kings, if he
fires you so that he can replaceyou as a cashier with one of his
kiosks, then that sucks. Don'tget me wrong, But considering all the
different help wanted flyers that are outthere and people not wanting to work fast
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food, one of the odds thatthere are a lot of people that are
going to lose their jobs versus justa lot of jobs that they couldn't get
anybody to fill in the first place. And now he says, well,
I have to put these kiosks in. But that doesn't fit the narrative.
It doesn't fit it at all.Nuance Man, I mean, I would
be sympathetic. I'm very sympathetic tothe mom and pops that say I'm concerned
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about losing my pizza chef because mypizza chef I pay eighteen dollars an hour,
and my pizza chef, who islike family to us, is thinking
about going to work for Starbucks becausethey're going to make twenty dollars an hour.
I'm sympathetic to that. I thinkthat's a reasonable concern for not only
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the business owners, but for thecommunity at large. He says, I
want to give them more money,don't. We're a mom and pop restaurant.
Our overhead is high, our marginsare low. It's very difficult for
us to even make a profit.I get to the end of the month
and I'm very concerned that I'm evengonna be able to make payroll. That
makes sense to me that that personis frustrated. That's the person for whom
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I have a great deal of sympathy. But the guy that owns one hundred
and forty Burger Kings in California thatwas planning on firing or replacing employees anyway,
who says, can you believe theyraised minimum wage? Now, I
gotta put these kiosks in that Iwas going to do anyway. That's a
reporter looking to build the narrative.That's not an astonishing story that somebody's trying
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to cut their overhead. That isjust a reporter trying to feed the narrative
that's already out there. Confirmation bias. We were talking in the last hour
about the retail theft, and Iwas thinking about Walmart says that they're going
to replace all the different what doyou call the self checkout kiosks or whatever,
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the self checkout things, and theygo, well, we have to
replace a bunch of these because whatwe found is people really miss that customer
service. That's funny because Walmart,you've been saying that you have to close
stores because of theft, but nowyou're saying you're gonna do this remodeling to
replace the millions of dollars you spentto put the self checkouts in because you
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want Mabel to be able to talkto Ethel once a week when she comes
in for her double coupons. Ijust don't believe these narratives as they come
in. I don't believe them atall. And so when Walmart says,
well, we're gonna take self checkoutsout and go back to traditional lines,
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and it's not because they it's notbecause we're worried about theft. It's it's
about customer service. Walmart, DoI believe you. I actually think you're
seeing some law like if you wereto say, hey, people are stealing
crap through ourself checkout lines. Iwould actually believe you this time, And
yet Walmart won't say that's the case. Why because that would be admitting that
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putting those things into the first placewas a mistake, and they don't want
to admit that. Instead, theywant to say, we're doing it for
the customary. Oh yeah, unlockthe underwear because nobody's stealing that. And
for the customary. It's very awkwardwhen I have to go ask Tyler for
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a key to unlock the fruit ofthe loom. You need the large.
That is the worst because they haveto stand there and wait for you to
make your selection, yeah, beforethey relock it. Listen. I'm a
big dude, all right. Andone thing I know, Mark, you
ever buy undershirts, I'm an undershirtwearer. I'm a black T shirt Whear.
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I think I'm Hank Moody from Californicationapparently. Yeah, yeah, I
got one of those on right now. Yeah. People call me Simon Cowle,
the fat Simon Couff, of course, but what do they all do?
They always shrink. Look, I'mnormally a two X guy, big
dude. Right when it comes toT shirts, I gotta go to like
a four x because they're gonna shrinkdown to a two X. Uh huh.
I can't stand that. So nowI got Tyler unlocking the thing,
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and I'm looking at I go,hey, Tyler, do you have any
four x maybe a four x long? Because I'm kind of tall too.
I'll cover my building here. AndTyler's like, I don't know what's not
the Like. I do have aheadline here from just two days ago that
says Chipotle says it's seen no impactyet on consumers from California wage increases.
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And yet everywhere you turn, ifyou spend more than five minutes reading more
than headlines, you see corporate profitsare way up. I don't know that's
possible. What do you make ofthat? How could they possibly be up
when they have to? I mean, their entire business model has been had
because of this minimum wage increase.McDonald's revenue was up. No, that's
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impossible. Oh, Telsea NBC,they're the ones who reported it. No,
that can't be true. Ah,I don't believe any of it.
Don't. It doesn't fit my narrativeof fake news. It's just garbage,
man, just garbage. I wantto talk speaking of digitizing things. How
about AI service? Walmart is gettingaway from the self checks, but are
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there some jobs that might be safefrom AI? Mark and I are both
hoping ours are. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI
AM six forty. Honored to bewith you. Thank you so much for
letting me play all that other nicetyblah blah blah AI. So AI is
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replacing people. We're hearing that whilewe have to replace California fast food workers
with AI because they raised that minimumrange. How much do you think Mark,
we were just talking about the burgerking guy that was like, well,
I had to put it all thesenew so I don't have to pay
employees. What should you think thosekiosks start? How much do you think
those things cost? I don't know, but I bet they don't need healthcare.
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Oh that's a great point. Ibet you don't have to pay federal
tax There's no there's no FIKA withholdingsand employee taxes and all that other stuff
too. Right, kiosk probably doesn'tneed any sick days or or anything like
that. You think they have tohire an IT guy just to maintain those
kiosks? You can't just have aninfinite regression of machines fixing fixing other machines.
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You know what's crazy about those things. I walked into an Ikea and
I had like a head and eatinga little low sugar, right, and
I hate Ikea. And I wasthere on a Saturday, you know how
it is. And I just wantedone of the cheap hot dogs. They
are not great, but they're cheap. And so I checked out and I
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wanted a hot dog. And Igo to use the kiosk. Listen,
I'm not an underthal. I canuse a kiosk. So go to use
the kiosk, and like malfunctions,it tries to run my card and it
freezes. Listen, this is whatcomputers do. Blue screen of death kind
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of thing. And so I Iwalked up to the counter and I said
to the guy. I go,hey, man, I just want a
hot dog. And he goes,oh, you have to order it the
kiosk, and I go, kioskis broken. Can I just order a
hot dog and give you my dollarfifty? He's like, uh, we're
gonna have to call somebody. Ohno, I said some Michael Douglas falling
down situation. It was definitely thatsituation. It was definitely like that for
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those unfamiliar, what a great film? Good pull on that one. I
loved that movie. It kind offlew under the radar. I didn't get
the kind of like box office acclaimthat I think it deserved great film.
You relate to it more and moreas time past, don't you. Yeah?
Yeah, if you're unfamiliar Michael Douglashas he's stuck in traffic and basically
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all the nonsense around him makes himcrazy and he kind of melts down and
then I think he goes on akilling spree. Yeah. So here's one
thing though, that when it comesto AI, I don't know that you're
going to be replaced if you aregood at customer service. If right think
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about this, where do you hatecustomer service the most? For me,
I can tell you it was callingIt was trying to get a hold of
Cox Internet tonight because I was havinga total meltowt If you missed the beginning
of the show, it was absolutedisaster. Everything's gone wrong. My internet
connection went to crap. I'm usinga backup system. My computer sound card
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went to smush as well. Itwas just everything was just horrible, right,
this a bad deal. I don'twant to bring it down, but
I said, listen, I'm ina hurry. I'm normally a really nice
guy, but I just want tothere like hello, thank you for contacting
us, and I'm like, look, I'm really in a hurry. My
upload speed are not good. Theygo, We're so sorry of having issues.
Do you give me permission to pullup your account? Oh? Good
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lord, Okay tell me this.Do you go berserk like I do when
they use the word unfortunately? Oh? Yes, right, Unfortunately, we're
unable to help you at this time. We can send a tech out Sunday
morning. It'll cost seventy five dollars, and I know exactly what's gonna happen.
They're not gonna be able to solveanything. And the other thing that
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drives me nuts, too is I'vehad this issue with my internets, but
it's sporadic. I can't repeat it. So I've done Listen. I've been
talking with the engineers at iHeart oneof the engineers as a friend of mine.
We go way back. We usedto play softball together. Good dude.
He's like, dude, I don'tknow what's going on, and I
said, well, it was reallybad tonight. By Sunday it'll be great,
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he goes, I'm sure it will. So even if I have a
tech out here, I can't replicateit. I can't show the tech what's
wrong. And the text's gonna go, well, go to Georgie's seventy five
dollars. You don't find anything wrong. So what am I gonna do?
Makes me crazy? It's like tryingto get mister Ed to talk in front
of company. Your polls are deep, I mean really they're deep cut.
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Come on, everybody knows this stuff. I appreciate the heck out of that.
As a kid that grew up onNick at night, I appreciate that.
Come on, Ed, just saysomething to the nice man. Choose
an apple? Yeah, come on, man, just say something. All
right. So here's where I thinkthis is a trippy. What the experts
are saying is if you're bad atcustomer service, AI can replace you,
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no problem. I mean, lookat how many times these different companies have
outsourced. I was subscribed once.Oh, this made me crazy. You
ever try to cancel something and theyhave to tell they have to send you
to the retention specialist. The specialists, Oh, they're the worst. That
sounds filthy. I was. Iwas doing some work in Dallas, and
so I had subscribed to the DallasMorning News and that gig dright up right.
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They hired somebody full time. Theysaid, hey, thanks, you
were really great. We appreciate youfilling in. I still say, in
contact, great situation, all thatstuff, but I didn't need the subscription
of Dallas Morning News anymore. SoI go online to try to cancel.
They're like, oh, you haveto call us to cancel. Oh crap,
I know what this is gonna be. So I call them and they
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go, oh, well, we'resorry to hear that she'll be leaving here.
And go, yeah, I don't. I don't need it anymore.
I'm not I'm not in Dallas,not doing anything with Dallas, and go,
oh, okay, what if wewere to offer it to you at
a discounted rate. And I waslike, I still don't need it.
I don't have any reason to stayup on Dallas Local News. And they
went, well, wait, waita minute, what if we were to
offer you a discounted rate and wemailed it to you. You're still not
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getting this. I don't need it, all right, well, I hear
what you're saying. I just needto send you on to my manager before
we get this completed. So,yeah, you know what, replace that
guy with AI. I'm fine withthat. It's not even the dude's fault.
That's the entire systems problem, right, this is the whole problem.
But if you're good at customers service, you ever have customer service you're really
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happy with, and they actually helpyou, and they stay with you until
the problem is solved. Those aresaints. They are angels sent from heaven.
They are cut from the bottom ofChrist's robe, and they are sent
to Earth to help you in thatone moment of crisis, and they do
that person, according to experts,cannot be replaced. I mean, we're
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not gonna pay more than twenty dollarsan hour, but they cannot be replaced
by AI. The other thing sentfrom heaven the traditional wife. I don't
know that I'm in for this one. It's a new TikTok trend. You
know how I love the TikTok trends. Yep, put on your apron because
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your whole life is about to becomefar more traditional. That's next. Chris
Merril, You're listening too later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty TikTok trends. Man, youwant to find out just how long we
have? Is this is sid untileverything falls apart? You watch TikTok and
then you weigh that against what youactually know. We talked earlier on the
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show about some of these TikTok trendswhere they're just they're pushing a narrative,
or sometimes the narrative is as aresult of the TikTok videos. There'd be
a video that shows a bunch oframpant crime and then people say, well,
there you go, retail crime ison the is on the rise because
TikTok says so. It doesn't matterif it actually is or not. We
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just say, well, TikTok saysso, so it must be. So
there's another TikTok trend and I wasunfamiliar with this until now. It's called
the trad wife. Have you heardof the trad wife? Yeah? I
tried to get that situation going athome, and you want to you want
to guess what the response was amark Let me let me help you out.
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There was a verb and a pronoun. We can't say one of them
on the air. Yeah, andproblem a reference to your affection of your
mother, right, I think I'vesaid enough. Yeah, So the traad
wife of the SOG, which isthe stay at home girlfriend. It's women
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who are opting out of working insteadthey're staying at home and they are decidedly
subservient to their spouse. I'm guessingthat that wouldn't have gone over very well
with you, Mark, because radiopaycheck probably not going to be enough to
be able to support a lifestyle whereshe gets to stay at home and be
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an influencer. Well, I wasn'tgoing to bring that up, but yank
you part. Yeah, well,listen, I'm in the same boat.
You and I have talked about thismany times. If not for our wives,
we would not be We would justnot be. You know, you
choose the life of a journalist andan artist and it's a calling and blah
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blah blah. You start to soundlike Charlie Brown's teacher to the other person
in the relationship. But sweetheart,I'm really good at this and swear this
is it's a worthy thing. It'svery noble. And she's like, I
don't care. Yeah, I realizedwhat it was because my wife and I
used to argue about this, andI'd say, listen, honey, I'm
doing okay doing freelance work, andyou make good money. The bills are
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paid, and I want I kindof turned into that stay at home husband
kind of thing, right, AndI was like, I'm going to clean
the house and I'm going to havedinner ready for you. And why does
this why does this arrangement not workuntil something opens up? And my wife
said, because it's all on me. And I said, but honey,
it's not all on you. Look. I vacuumed, I wash the clothes,
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I even washed the sheets this month. I make dinner for you.
It's on the table every night whenyou're done with work. She said,
but it's all on me. Isaid, it's not. I'm doing it.
She said, all the responsibility ison me. If anything happens to
me in my job, we're onthe street. Because you make dinner for
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me. Is not going to putthe groceries in the fridge for you to
make the dinner for me. Iguess a viewing of mister Mom didn't do
the trick, didn't do it.She was not crazy about that, and
it was a little tough. Butnow you've got women that are saying,
well, you know what, Iwant to return to what my my grandmother
had. Although these people are young, if it's probably their great grandmother's And
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I said, well, you know, my grandmother used to stay at home.
She would cook, she would clean, she would take care of the
house. And it doesn't help thatwe keep getting every year. There's another
report on the what is it theit's not the value of stay at home
moms. It's something about like ifyou had to pay for everything the stay
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at home mom does, and Isays, look, it would be worth
one hundred forty thousand dollars a year. And so you have you have people
that say, I'm staying at homeand that's worth one hundred forty thousand dollars
a year. And I've always madethe argument, no, it's not because
if you go to work and Igo to work, the stuff that happens
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at home, we still have totake care of that. That's not a
job for you. For people thatsay, well, listen, I'm a
mom and being a mom is ajob. No, being a mom is
a lifestyle. If I'm a father, I don't get paid to go to
my kids concert. I don't evenget to say, well, hiring someone
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to drive the kids to the concertwould have been a fifteen dollars uber ride
there and back. No, becausethat's part of being a dad. I
take the kids to their Thanksgiving recital. It just is. So it drives
me bonkers when these people are saying, well, this worth so much money,
So this trad wife movement. Oneinfluencer was quoted as saying, she's
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the opposite of a boss babe.First of all, stop using internet lingo.
You sound dumb, But it's sortof contrariant, I guess to the
feminist movement. So imagine that youare you are someone who is a feminist
at the point, and I listen, I'm more of that traditional feminist where
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I go, Yes, men andwomen should be paid the same amount.
Men and women should have the samerights. No one should. Their resumes
shouldn't be thrown out simply because theyhave a female sounding name. Yet equality
right, that's me. But youalso kind of get to that side where
they go, I don't need aman type feminists. Okay, that's fine.
Nobody says you have to have aman. It's never been a thing.
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Nobody's insisting that you get married.You can if you want. I
know you feel societal pressure and maybefeel pressure from your parents, but nobodys
say, an, you have toit. I don't need a man in
my life. I don't need itat all. I don't need anything.
I don't need any I can adopta child and I don't need it,
and good, go do it.That's fine. But there's this almost I
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don't want to say pride, becauseyou know that's not necessarily it, but
I don't know, there's almost kindof this push to say I don't need
someone else, I'm independent, andI applaud that. I think that's awesome,
good for you. But then there'sthis counter to that that says,
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well, you know, those feminists, they are making us look bad,
and I just want to be atrad wife, a traditional wife, and
they say this, being submissive ispart of the lifestyle. Submission isn't degrading,
it's freeing. Yeah, about you. I think this is part of
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the conversation where things went really wrongfor Mark when he was asking his girlfriend
about if she wanted to be atraditional or a stay at home girlfriend.
Yeah, submission is freeing try thatout on someone. He said, sweetheart,
why don't you just submit to myevery whim. When I get home,
I expect a dinner cooked, Myslippers should be warmed, and when
I sit down, I need youto hand me my pipe, my la
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times and begin rubbing my shoulders.Ask me only how my day was,
Tell me nothing of your day.Be submissive. It's very freeing. I
don't know. Maybe it was somethingabout my delivery. Yeah, it's all
on how you say it. Yeah. Yeah, it's all on how you
say it. But is there anelement that might actually feel freeing? Well,
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look, I mean we've got acertain portion of the population that has
authoritarian complexes too, so there's alwaysgoing to be that little spot on the
bell curve where people are into that. Yeah, it's funny too. You
don't run into somebody who's of theliberal persuasion that is going to say this
sounds like the right solution for women. More women need to be in the
kitchen. You don't really run intothat. I would even say you run
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into a minority in the conservative sidefeel bad way too. Of course,
there are certain religions and certain groupsthat say this is how life should be
that's a little bit different. Butthis trend, the TikTok trend, the
trad wife hashtag. I think there'smore to this, and I kind of
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think it's psychological. Dive into someof that here in a minute, Chris
Maryland from O Kelly than IKF IAM six quarter We're live everywhere in your
iHeartRadio ABB. Mark Ronner is liveuntil his girlfriend. Here's this show you're
listening to later with Moe Kelly ondemand from KFI AM six forty. We
learned in our last segment if you'rejust joining us, that Mark Ronner,
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with whom you're quite familiar, becauseyou'll catch him every night until his wife
hears this segment. Mark Ronner hada good run here we go. Yeah,
and then he was recommending that hisgirlfriend be a stay at home girlfriend,
more of a traditional living situation,the nuclear family. She needs to
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just do what he says. Submissionisn't degrading, it's freeing. I don't
know that I agree with that.It's a good thing she doesn't listen.
Let me see, Oh yeah,is there. I was just checking my
notes. Here is there a circumstancewhere we could say that being a stay
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at home wife is in fact freeing. Have we gotten to the point where
we have associated work with identity sostrongly that anything to the contrary seems so
foreign that we just immediately condemn itas being ridiculous. Or is it all
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just about if you got the money, do it. I don't condemn anybody
that chooses to be a stay athome spout, especially if you're raising kids.
If you have a situation, Idon't care if it's male or female.
I got a couple of buddies thatwere stay at home husbands. They're
both divorced now, but you've gota couple of buddies that are stay at
home husbands. And if you havethe ability that one spouse can't provide,
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and you feel that their job issecure, that's awesome. Don't change anything.
You want to be at home raisingthe kids, that's excellent. Good
for you. My concern, however, is the poor advice from TikTok that
is touting that a trad wife isright for everyone. I do think that
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work gives somebody an identity. Let'ssay you go to a party. Mark
you get invited to parties very often, I avoid them, but I'll just
play along. Go right ahead.Okay, let's say we're at a party.
Mark and I are so much alikeit's ridiculous. Yeah. So you're
at a party and your girlfriend introducesyou to somebody, probably her new lover,
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but you don't know that yet,and she says, I want you
to meet Mark, and you say, hi, Owen. I don't know
any Owens. So we're just gonnago with Owen, Hi, Owen.
And what's the first question you askedthem? What do you do? Although
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with Mark it might be where'd youget those shoes? But for the most
part, you might say what doyou do? And Owen would say,
I'm in sales, and then youthink, oh, it's a geek.
I don't want to spend any timewith him. Look, work gives us
a sense of identity, It givesus a sense of self value. In
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fact, my wife and I first, she says it was the first red
flag I ever threw up, becausewhen we were dating, she said something
about working and being at home.You know, she had three kids at
the time, and I was like, no, let me know when they're
out of the house and I'm marriedher. Anyway, she's cute, but
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I said to listen. I thinkwhen it comes to when it comes to
a spouse, I want somebody whowho who does something? And she said,
what do you mean. I go, yeah, i'man a job or
volunteering or something about. I wantsomebody that feels like they want to contribute,
like they want to give back tosociety. And she says, oh,
you want somebody who's going to goto work. In her mind,
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she's thinking he wants a sugar mama. In my mind, I'm thinking I
want someone independent. I find thatvery sexy, very sexy. So I
wanted somebody that was independent. Andif I have the ability to provide and
you don't have to go to workand you don't have to go to stupid
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meetings and be on teams all day, then that's awesome. But I don't
want somebody who's just going to bearound the house being subservient to me.
This idea of a trad wife,and people are condemning it and saying this
is bad at setting women's movements backand all this other stuff. I'm not
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so concerned about that as I amwhat does this do? Who did I
marry? I don't want someone whojust gives me what I want all the
time. I didn't marry a dog. I married someone I look up to,
that I relate to. That Icall my significant other my partner,
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not my servant. I just don'tlike that idea of I'm just gonna stay
at home and make TikTok videos allday. All right, we'll show me
your business plan and how that's gonnamake you profitable or raise your profile.
I mean, what's your goal.I want somebody with goals. So sure,
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I guess I understand somebody saying Idon't want a nine to five job.
Not having to call in every daymakes me feel free. And if
I'm a tread a tread wife,traditional wife, stand home mom, whatever
you want to say and that,and you indulge in that as your identity,
then that's great, awesome, andit may feel very freeing to say
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I have the ability to stay athome and I have the ability to raise
my kids. But this idea thatI'm just going to stay at home and
I'm gonna make TikTok videos all day. Imagine if I were to say to
you, oh, let's push forthe gaming husband. He just stays at
home and plays video games all daybecause it's so freeing. I see no
problem with that. That seems perfectlyreasonable, does it? Does it?
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Yeah? Because I think you wouldmiss Mo. Well that's true too,
And you know, instead of TikTok, just substitute only fans. And I
think you got a thing going here. I think there's there's room to negotiate.
There's good money in mad Mark.What I hear? There's good money?
All right? All right, soI think we're learning a lot about
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Mark tonight. This is great.How come Moe never dives this deep into
your psyche? I think this iswonderful. Well he tries, Yeah,
he gets Moe blocked. All right, let's talk about La Stanks. That
is next. Chris merrill INFROMO Kellyto Night KFI AM six forty We are
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.You've been listening so later with Mo Kelly.
You can always hear us live onKFI AM six forty seven pm to
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ten pm every Monday through Friday,and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Kf I am sixty. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. The whole MyWay of the Highway. Stuff that seems
to be pervading all news nowadays justmakes me crazy. Like, for instance,
we got the new minimum waging.Oh I'm Chris Meryl by the way
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in from Mo tonight and catch meon Sunday afternoons. Blah blah blah.
So that new minimum wage hike forfast food workers, right, which appeal
apply excuse me to the large fastfood joints. You have to have more
than sixty franchises. So this isn'tmom and pop places, but Mama pop
places say, well, listen,my employees are gonna leave because they can
go make more money a McDonald's.Okay, it's a fair argument. I
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get that. But I saw anotherheadline this week. I love these those
headlines because the headlines are not writtenfor They're not written for clarity. They're
written for clicks. Right, It'snot about telling the truth. It's about
getting the most eyes on your product. It's about clicks. It's about viewers.
It's about honestly listeners, So becareful. Maybe I'm feeding you full
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of crap because I just want youto listen longer. Could be hit,
could be true. So I sawthis story for the Daily Mail had it,
so you know already we're dealing withone of the more credible news sources
out there. Fast food chains inCalifornia are replacing staff with digital order kiosks
as a way to cut costs afterthe minimum wage in the state was hiked
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to twenty dollars an hour. Aftertwo years of price raises caused by higher
costs for food, restaurant bosses saythey cannot raise them again. Now,
mind you, They say price increasesbecause of higher costs of food. However,
if you take a look back,you find out that over the course
of the last ten years, McDonald'son average, has doubled the prices of
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their menu. Inflation over the lastten years has gone up to thirty percent.
They've doubled their prices. Other fastchains have followed suit, where they
are far outpacing inflation. It's alittle bit like college tuition. Well,
we have to raise our prices becausecosts are going up. Now you raise
your prices because you can. Thecost of medical care in America, well,
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you know, We've got a lotof money that's sunk into research and
development and well medicare costs and well, you know, government reimbursement isn't very
high, so we have to makeup for that. No, you don't
make up for your profiteering off ofit. That's what's happening. You are
a modern day pirate. And thesenarratives that we have just play right into
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it because it's what people want tohear. So anytime you hear that the
minimum wage, somebody's considering a minimumwage, what do you have? Give
this the exact same argument. Thishas been going on since the inception of
minimum wage, and that is minimumwage is just going to drive up the
costs. You can't raise minimum wage. If you raise minimum wage, will
never be able to afford to live. And yet here we are now,
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I will say this, the marketwill probably help out with the minimum wage.
Federal minimum wage is still at whatseven and a quarter an hour.
States have raised their own minimum wages, but the federal minimum wage hasn't gone
up a whole lot. Some statesstill abide by that federal minimum wage,
and yet they can't seem to findworkers. Huh. I recall when we
started seeing signs where McDonald's was hiringfor twenty one dollars an hour. Twenty
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one dollars a hour flip Burgers.Yeah, do you know why, because
nobody wants to do it. Forseventeen dollars an hour. It had been
the minimum wage for fast food restaurantslike sixteen Bucks, and then they raised
it to twenty dollars an hour,and people screamed, no, what are
you doing. I can't afford abig mac anymore. And yet when you
drive by these stores that say helpwanted. And I looked this up on
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the micjobs website a week or twoago, and there were two hundred jobs
available in in the not just themetro, but in the city limits of
luss Angels. There are like twohundred McDonald's jobs. And McDonald's has those
signs up front that says, oh, up to make up to twenty two
dollars an hour. So we startscreaming when they start offering twenty dollars an
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hour. And now what we havegoing on is another built in excuse for
companies to cut staff. And theysay, well, this is all because
of Governor Knewsome. He did this, And they said, well, hire
food cost. You know, wehad to raise prices. So they highlight
this. One dude who runs aBurger King franchise has one hundred and forty
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restaurants on the West Coast, andhe says he plans to have digital kiosks
in all of them in the nexttwo months because until the wage hike,
he planned to roll them out overthe next five to ten years. But
now the wage hike, he's gotto roll them out sooner. Wait a
minute, let's do some maths onthat. So you got to go that
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owns a bunch of fast food restaurantsthat planned on replacing workers with automation.
Anyway, his plans, by theway, as you read further in the
Daily Mail article, which of courseblames Newsome and California politicians for destroying transfats
or something, he says, well, looks, I had to do this,
had to do it, and Iwasn't going to for another five to
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ten years, because I mean,my planned had just been to replace people
when I was remodeling my stores.So we had a hold on me.
You had enough profits out of thatprevious minimum wage that you could afford to
remodel your stores and replace all ofthe workers. But now that the minimum
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wage has gone up, you sayyou have no choice but to do what
you were going to do anyway.Now, granted, the timeline's a little
different. And if you're working atone of those burger kings, if he
fires you so that he can replaceyou as a cashier with one of his
kiosks, then that sucks. Don'tget me wrong, But considering all the
different help wanted flyers that are outthere and people not wanting to work fast
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food, one of the odds thatthere are a lot of people that are
going to lose their jobs versus justa lot of jobs that they couldn't get
anybody to fill in the first place. And now he says, well,
I have to put these kiosks in. But that doesn't fit the narrative.
It doesn't fit it at all.Nuance Man, I mean, I would
be sympathetic. I'm very sympathetic tothe mom and pops that say I'm concerned
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about losing my pizza chef because mypizza chef I pay eighteen dollars an hour,
and my pizza chef, who islike family to us, is thinking
about going to work for Starbucks becausethey're going to make twenty dollars an hour.
I'm sympathetic to that. I thinkthat's a reasonable concern for not only
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the business owners, but for thecommunity at large. He says, I
want to give them more money,don't. We're a mom and pop restaurant.
Our overhead is high, our marginsare low. It's very difficult for
us to even make a profit.I get to the end of the month
and I'm very concerned that I'm evengonna be able to make payroll. That
makes sense to me that that personis frustrated. That's the person for whom
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I have a great deal of sympathy. But the guy that owns one hundred
and forty Burger Kings in California thatwas planning on firing or replacing employees anyway,
who says, can you believe theyraised minimum wage? Now, I
gotta put these kiosks in that Iwas going to do anyway. That's a
reporter looking to build the narrative.That's not an astonishing story that somebody's trying
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to cut their overhead. That isjust a reporter trying to feed the narrative
that's already out there. Confirmation bias. We were talking in the last hour
about the retail theft, and Iwas thinking about Walmart says that they're going
to replace all the different what doyou call the self checkout kiosks or whatever,
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the self checkout things, and theygo, well, we have to
replace a bunch of these because whatwe found is people really miss that customer
service. That's funny because Walmart,you've been saying that you have to close
stores because of theft, but nowyou're saying you're gonna do this remodeling to
replace the millions of dollars you spentto put the self checkouts in because you
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want Mabel to be able to talkto Ethel once a week when she comes
in for her double coupons. Ijust don't believe these narratives as they come
in. I don't believe them atall. And so when Walmart says,
well, we're gonna take self checkoutsout and go back to traditional lines,
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and it's not because they it's notbecause we're worried about theft. It's it's
about customer service. Walmart, DoI believe you. I actually think you're
seeing some law like if you wereto say, hey, people are stealing
crap through ourself checkout lines. Iwould actually believe you this time, And
yet Walmart won't say that's the case. Why because that would be admitting that
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putting those things into the first placewas a mistake, and they don't want
to admit that. Instead, theywant to say, we're doing it for
the customary. Oh yeah, unlockthe underwear because nobody's stealing that. And
for the customary. It's very awkwardwhen I have to go ask Tyler for
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a key to unlock the fruit ofthe loom. You need the large.
That is the worst because they haveto stand there and wait for you to
make your selection, yeah, beforethey relock it. Listen. I'm a
big dude, all right. Andone thing I know, Mark, you
ever buy undershirts, I'm an undershirtwearer. I'm a black T shirt Whear.
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I think I'm Hank Moody from Californicationapparently. Yeah, yeah, I
got one of those on right now. Yeah. People call me Simon Cowle,
the fat Simon Couff, of course, but what do they all do?
They always shrink. Look, I'mnormally a two X guy, big
dude. Right when it comes toT shirts, I gotta go to like
a four x because they're gonna shrinkdown to a two X. Uh huh.
I can't stand that. So nowI got Tyler unlocking the thing,
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and I'm looking at I go,hey, Tyler, do you have any
four x maybe a four x long? Because I'm kind of tall too.
I'll cover my building here. AndTyler's like, I don't know what's not
the Like. I do have aheadline here from just two days ago that
says Chipotle says it's seen no impactyet on consumers from California wage increases.
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And yet everywhere you turn, ifyou spend more than five minutes reading more
than headlines, you see corporate profitsare way up. I don't know that's
possible. What do you make ofthat? How could they possibly be up
when they have to? I mean, their entire business model has been had
because of this minimum wage increase.McDonald's revenue was up. No, that's
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impossible. Oh, Telsea NBC,they're the ones who reported it. No,
that can't be true. Ah,I don't believe any of it.
Don't. It doesn't fit my narrativeof fake news. It's just garbage,
man, just garbage. I wantto talk speaking of digitizing things. How
about AI service? Walmart is gettingaway from the self checks, but are
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there some jobs that might be safefrom AI? Mark and I are both
hoping ours are. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI
AM six forty. Honored to bewith you. Thank you so much for
letting me play all that other nicetyblah blah blah AI. So AI is
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replacing people. We're hearing that whilewe have to replace California fast food workers
with AI because they raised that minimumrange. How much do you think Mark,
we were just talking about the burgerking guy that was like, well,
I had to put it all thesenew so I don't have to pay
employees. What should you think thosekiosks start? How much do you think
those things cost? I don't know, but I bet they don't need healthcare.
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Oh that's a great point. Ibet you don't have to pay federal
tax There's no there's no FIKA withholdingsand employee taxes and all that other stuff
too. Right, kiosk probably doesn'tneed any sick days or or anything like
that. You think they have tohire an IT guy just to maintain those
kiosks? You can't just have aninfinite regression of machines fixing fixing other machines.
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You know what's crazy about those things. I walked into an Ikea and
I had like a head and eatinga little low sugar, right, and
I hate Ikea. And I wasthere on a Saturday, you know how
it is. And I just wantedone of the cheap hot dogs. They
are not great, but they're cheap. And so I checked out and I
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wanted a hot dog. And Igo to use the kiosk. Listen,
I'm not an underthal. I canuse a kiosk. So go to use
the kiosk, and like malfunctions,it tries to run my card and it
freezes. Listen, this is whatcomputers do. Blue screen of death kind
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of thing. And so I Iwalked up to the counter and I said
to the guy. I go,hey, man, I just want a
hot dog. And he goes,oh, you have to order it the
kiosk, and I go, kioskis broken. Can I just order a
hot dog and give you my dollarfifty? He's like, uh, we're
gonna have to call somebody. Ohno, I said some Michael Douglas falling
down situation. It was definitely thatsituation. It was definitely like that for
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those unfamiliar, what a great film? Good pull on that one. I
loved that movie. It kind offlew under the radar. I didn't get
the kind of like box office acclaimthat I think it deserved great film.
You relate to it more and moreas time past, don't you. Yeah?
Yeah, if you're unfamiliar Michael Douglashas he's stuck in traffic and basically
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all the nonsense around him makes himcrazy and he kind of melts down and
then I think he goes on akilling spree. Yeah. So here's one
thing though, that when it comesto AI, I don't know that you're
going to be replaced if you aregood at customer service. If right think
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about this, where do you hatecustomer service the most? For me,
I can tell you it was callingIt was trying to get a hold of
Cox Internet tonight because I was havinga total meltowt If you missed the beginning
of the show, it was absolutedisaster. Everything's gone wrong. My internet
connection went to crap. I'm usinga backup system. My computer sound card
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went to smush as well. Itwas just everything was just horrible, right,
this a bad deal. I don'twant to bring it down, but
I said, listen, I'm ina hurry. I'm normally a really nice
guy, but I just want tothere like hello, thank you for contacting
us, and I'm like, look, I'm really in a hurry. My
upload speed are not good. Theygo, We're so sorry of having issues.
Do you give me permission to pullup your account? Oh? Good
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lord, Okay tell me this.Do you go berserk like I do when
they use the word unfortunately? Oh? Yes, right, Unfortunately, we're
unable to help you at this time. We can send a tech out Sunday
morning. It'll cost seventy five dollars, and I know exactly what's gonna happen.
They're not gonna be able to solveanything. And the other thing that
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drives me nuts, too is I'vehad this issue with my internets, but
it's sporadic. I can't repeat it. So I've done Listen. I've been
talking with the engineers at iHeart oneof the engineers as a friend of mine.
We go way back. We usedto play softball together. Good dude.
He's like, dude, I don'tknow what's going on, and I
said, well, it was reallybad tonight. By Sunday it'll be great,
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he goes, I'm sure it will. So even if I have a
tech out here, I can't replicateit. I can't show the tech what's
wrong. And the text's gonna go, well, go to Georgie's seventy five
dollars. You don't find anything wrong. So what am I gonna do?
Makes me crazy? It's like tryingto get mister Ed to talk in front
of company. Your polls are deep, I mean really they're deep cut.
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Come on, everybody knows this stuff. I appreciate the heck out of that.
As a kid that grew up onNick at night, I appreciate that.
Come on, Ed, just saysomething to the nice man. Choose
an apple? Yeah, come on, man, just say something. All
right. So here's where I thinkthis is a trippy. What the experts
are saying is if you're bad atcustomer service, AI can replace you,
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no problem. I mean, lookat how many times these different companies have
outsourced. I was subscribed once.Oh, this made me crazy. You
ever try to cancel something and theyhave to tell they have to send you
to the retention specialist. The specialists, Oh, they're the worst. That
sounds filthy. I was. Iwas doing some work in Dallas, and
so I had subscribed to the DallasMorning News and that gig dright up right.
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They hired somebody full time. Theysaid, hey, thanks, you
were really great. We appreciate youfilling in. I still say, in
contact, great situation, all thatstuff, but I didn't need the subscription
of Dallas Morning News anymore. SoI go online to try to cancel.
They're like, oh, you haveto call us to cancel. Oh crap,
I know what this is gonna be. So I call them and they
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go, oh, well, we'resorry to hear that she'll be leaving here.
And go, yeah, I don't. I don't need it anymore.
I'm not I'm not in Dallas,not doing anything with Dallas, and go,
oh, okay, what if wewere to offer it to you at
a discounted rate. And I waslike, I still don't need it.
I don't have any reason to stayup on Dallas Local News. And they
went, well, wait, waita minute, what if we were to
offer you a discounted rate and wemailed it to you. You're still not
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getting this. I don't need it, all right, well, I hear
what you're saying. I just needto send you on to my manager before
we get this completed. So,yeah, you know what, replace that
guy with AI. I'm fine withthat. It's not even the dude's fault.
That's the entire systems problem, right, this is the whole problem.
But if you're good at customers service, you ever have customer service you're really
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happy with, and they actually helpyou, and they stay with you until
the problem is solved. Those aresaints. They are angels sent from heaven.
They are cut from the bottom ofChrist's robe, and they are sent
to Earth to help you in thatone moment of crisis, and they do
that person, according to experts,cannot be replaced. I mean, we're
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not gonna pay more than twenty dollarsan hour, but they cannot be replaced
by AI. The other thing sentfrom heaven the traditional wife. I don't
know that I'm in for this one. It's a new TikTok trend. You
know how I love the TikTok trends. Yep, put on your apron because
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your whole life is about to becomefar more traditional. That's next. Chris
Merril, You're listening too later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty TikTok trends. Man, youwant to find out just how long we
have? Is this is sid untileverything falls apart? You watch TikTok and
then you weigh that against what youactually know. We talked earlier on the
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show about some of these TikTok trendswhere they're just they're pushing a narrative,
or sometimes the narrative is as aresult of the TikTok videos. There'd be
a video that shows a bunch oframpant crime and then people say, well,
there you go, retail crime ison the is on the rise because
TikTok says so. It doesn't matterif it actually is or not. We
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just say, well, TikTok saysso, so it must be. So
there's another TikTok trend and I wasunfamiliar with this until now. It's called
the trad wife. Have you heardof the trad wife? Yeah? I
tried to get that situation going athome, and you want to you want
to guess what the response was amark Let me let me help you out.
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There was a verb and a pronoun. We can't say one of them
on the air. Yeah, andproblem a reference to your affection of your
mother, right, I think I'vesaid enough. Yeah, So the traad
wife of the SOG, which isthe stay at home girlfriend. It's women
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who are opting out of working insteadthey're staying at home and they are decidedly
subservient to their spouse. I'm guessingthat that wouldn't have gone over very well
with you, Mark, because radiopaycheck probably not going to be enough to
be able to support a lifestyle whereshe gets to stay at home and be
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an influencer. Well, I wasn'tgoing to bring that up, but yank
you part. Yeah, well,listen, I'm in the same boat.
You and I have talked about thismany times. If not for our wives,
we would not be We would justnot be. You know, you
choose the life of a journalist andan artist and it's a calling and blah
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blah blah. You start to soundlike Charlie Brown's teacher to the other person
in the relationship. But sweetheart,I'm really good at this and swear this
is it's a worthy thing. It'svery noble. And she's like, I
don't care. Yeah, I realizedwhat it was because my wife and I
used to argue about this, andI'd say, listen, honey, I'm
doing okay doing freelance work, andyou make good money. The bills are
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paid, and I want I kindof turned into that stay at home husband
kind of thing, right, AndI was like, I'm going to clean
the house and I'm going to havedinner ready for you. And why does
this why does this arrangement not workuntil something opens up? And my wife
said, because it's all on me. And I said, but honey,
it's not all on you. Look. I vacuumed, I wash the clothes,
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I even washed the sheets this month. I make dinner for you.
It's on the table every night whenyou're done with work. She said,
but it's all on me. Isaid, it's not. I'm doing it.
She said, all the responsibility ison me. If anything happens to
me in my job, we're onthe street. Because you make dinner for
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me. Is not going to putthe groceries in the fridge for you to
make the dinner for me. Iguess a viewing of mister Mom didn't do
the trick, didn't do it.She was not crazy about that, and
it was a little tough. Butnow you've got women that are saying,
well, you know what, Iwant to return to what my my grandmother
had. Although these people are young, if it's probably their great grandmother's And
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I said, well, you know, my grandmother used to stay at home.
She would cook, she would clean, she would take care of the
house. And it doesn't help thatwe keep getting every year. There's another
report on the what is it theit's not the value of stay at home
moms. It's something about like ifyou had to pay for everything the stay
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at home mom does, and Isays, look, it would be worth
one hundred forty thousand dollars a year. And so you have you have people
that say, I'm staying at homeand that's worth one hundred forty thousand dollars
a year. And I've always madethe argument, no, it's not because
if you go to work and Igo to work, the stuff that happens
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at home, we still have totake care of that. That's not a
job for you. For people thatsay, well, listen, I'm a
mom and being a mom is ajob. No, being a mom is
a lifestyle. If I'm a father, I don't get paid to go to
my kids concert. I don't evenget to say, well, hiring someone
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to drive the kids to the concertwould have been a fifteen dollars uber ride
there and back. No, becausethat's part of being a dad. I
take the kids to their Thanksgiving recital. It just is. So it drives
me bonkers when these people are saying, well, this worth so much money,
So this trad wife movement. Oneinfluencer was quoted as saying, she's
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the opposite of a boss babe.First of all, stop using internet lingo.
You sound dumb, But it's sortof contrariant, I guess to the
feminist movement. So imagine that youare you are someone who is a feminist
at the point, and I listen, I'm more of that traditional feminist where
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I go, Yes, men andwomen should be paid the same amount.
Men and women should have the samerights. No one should. Their resumes
shouldn't be thrown out simply because theyhave a female sounding name. Yet equality
right, that's me. But youalso kind of get to that side where
they go, I don't need aman type feminists. Okay, that's fine.
Nobody says you have to have aman. It's never been a thing.
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Nobody's insisting that you get married.You can if you want. I
know you feel societal pressure and maybefeel pressure from your parents, but nobodys
say, an, you have toit. I don't need a man in
my life. I don't need itat all. I don't need anything.
I don't need any I can adopta child and I don't need it,
and good, go do it.That's fine. But there's this almost I
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don't want to say pride, becauseyou know that's not necessarily it, but
I don't know, there's almost kindof this push to say I don't need
someone else, I'm independent, andI applaud that. I think that's awesome,
good for you. But then there'sthis counter to that that says,
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well, you know, those feminists, they are making us look bad,
and I just want to be atrad wife, a traditional wife, and
they say this, being submissive ispart of the lifestyle. Submission isn't degrading,
it's freeing. Yeah, about you. I think this is part of
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the conversation where things went really wrongfor Mark when he was asking his girlfriend
about if she wanted to be atraditional or a stay at home girlfriend.
Yeah, submission is freeing try thatout on someone. He said, sweetheart,
why don't you just submit to myevery whim. When I get home,
I expect a dinner cooked, Myslippers should be warmed, and when
I sit down, I need youto hand me my pipe, my la
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times and begin rubbing my shoulders.Ask me only how my day was,
Tell me nothing of your day.Be submissive. It's very freeing. I
don't know. Maybe it was somethingabout my delivery. Yeah, it's all
on how you say it. Yeah. Yeah, it's all on how you
say it. But is there anelement that might actually feel freeing? Well,
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look, I mean we've got acertain portion of the population that has
authoritarian complexes too, so there's alwaysgoing to be that little spot on the
bell curve where people are into that. Yeah, it's funny too. You
don't run into somebody who's of theliberal persuasion that is going to say this
sounds like the right solution for women. More women need to be in the
kitchen. You don't really run intothat. I would even say you run
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into a minority in the conservative sidefeel bad way too. Of course,
there are certain religions and certain groupsthat say this is how life should be
that's a little bit different. Butthis trend, the TikTok trend, the
trad wife hashtag. I think there'smore to this, and I kind of
(27:17):
think it's psychological. Dive into someof that here in a minute, Chris
Maryland from O Kelly than IKF IAM six quarter We're live everywhere in your
iHeartRadio ABB. Mark Ronner is liveuntil his girlfriend. Here's this show you're
listening to later with Moe Kelly ondemand from KFI AM six forty. We
learned in our last segment if you'rejust joining us, that Mark Ronner,
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with whom you're quite familiar, becauseyou'll catch him every night until his wife
hears this segment. Mark Ronner hada good run here we go. Yeah,
and then he was recommending that hisgirlfriend be a stay at home girlfriend,
more of a traditional living situation,the nuclear family. She needs to
(28:04):
just do what he says. Submissionisn't degrading, it's freeing. I don't
know that I agree with that.It's a good thing she doesn't listen.
Let me see, Oh yeah,is there. I was just checking my
notes. Here is there a circumstancewhere we could say that being a stay
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at home wife is in fact freeing. Have we gotten to the point where
we have associated work with identity sostrongly that anything to the contrary seems so
foreign that we just immediately condemn itas being ridiculous. Or is it all
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just about if you got the money, do it. I don't condemn anybody
that chooses to be a stay athome spout, especially if you're raising kids.
If you have a situation, Idon't care if it's male or female.
I got a couple of buddies thatwere stay at home husbands. They're
both divorced now, but you've gota couple of buddies that are stay at
home husbands. And if you havethe ability that one spouse can't provide,
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and you feel that their job issecure, that's awesome. Don't change anything.
You want to be at home raisingthe kids, that's excellent. Good
for you. My concern, however, is the poor advice from TikTok that
is touting that a trad wife isright for everyone. I do think that
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work gives somebody an identity. Let'ssay you go to a party. Mark
you get invited to parties very often, I avoid them, but I'll just
play along. Go right ahead.Okay, let's say we're at a party.
Mark and I are so much alikeit's ridiculous. Yeah. So you're
at a party and your girlfriend introducesyou to somebody, probably her new lover,
(29:57):
but you don't know that yet,and she says, I want you
to meet Mark, and you say, hi, Owen. I don't know
any Owens. So we're just gonnago with Owen, Hi, Owen.
And what's the first question you askedthem? What do you do? Although
(30:18):
with Mark it might be where'd youget those shoes? But for the most
part, you might say what doyou do? And Owen would say,
I'm in sales, and then youthink, oh, it's a geek.
I don't want to spend any timewith him. Look, work gives us
a sense of identity, It givesus a sense of self value. In
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fact, my wife and I first, she says it was the first red
flag I ever threw up, becausewhen we were dating, she said something
about working and being at home.You know, she had three kids at
the time, and I was like, no, let me know when they're
out of the house and I'm marriedher. Anyway, she's cute, but
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I said to listen. I thinkwhen it comes to when it comes to
a spouse, I want somebody whowho who does something? And she said,
what do you mean. I go, yeah, i'man a job or
volunteering or something about. I wantsomebody that feels like they want to contribute,
like they want to give back tosociety. And she says, oh,
you want somebody who's going to goto work. In her mind,
(31:26):
she's thinking he wants a sugar mama. In my mind, I'm thinking I
want someone independent. I find thatvery sexy, very sexy. So I
wanted somebody that was independent. Andif I have the ability to provide and
you don't have to go to workand you don't have to go to stupid
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meetings and be on teams all day, then that's awesome. But I don't
want somebody who's just going to bearound the house being subservient to me.
This idea of a trad wife,and people are condemning it and saying this
is bad at setting women's movements backand all this other stuff. I'm not
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so concerned about that as I amwhat does this do? Who did I
marry? I don't want someone whojust gives me what I want all the
time. I didn't marry a dog. I married someone I look up to,
that I relate to. That Icall my significant other my partner,
(32:34):
not my servant. I just don'tlike that idea of I'm just gonna stay
at home and make TikTok videos allday. All right, we'll show me
your business plan and how that's gonnamake you profitable or raise your profile.
I mean, what's your goal.I want somebody with goals. So sure,
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I guess I understand somebody saying Idon't want a nine to five job.
Not having to call in every daymakes me feel free. And if
I'm a tread a tread wife,traditional wife, stand home mom, whatever
you want to say and that,and you indulge in that as your identity,
then that's great, awesome, andit may feel very freeing to say
(33:15):
I have the ability to stay athome and I have the ability to raise
my kids. But this idea thatI'm just going to stay at home and
I'm gonna make TikTok videos all day. Imagine if I were to say to
you, oh, let's push forthe gaming husband. He just stays at
home and plays video games all daybecause it's so freeing. I see no
problem with that. That seems perfectlyreasonable, does it? Does it?
(33:37):
Yeah? Because I think you wouldmiss Mo. Well that's true too,
And you know, instead of TikTok, just substitute only fans. And I
think you got a thing going here. I think there's there's room to negotiate.
There's good money in mad Mark.What I hear? There's good money?
All right? All right, soI think we're learning a lot about
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Mark tonight. This is great.How come Moe never dives this deep into
your psyche? I think this iswonderful. Well he tries, Yeah,
he gets Moe blocked. All right, let's talk about La Stanks. That
is next. Chris merrill INFROMO Kellyto Night KFI AM six forty We are
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.You've been listening so later with Mo Kelly.
You can always hear us live onKFI AM six forty seven pm to
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