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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Sixty. It's mister m'kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we
have a huge show. I can still see outside. It's
still not dark. I can't quite get used to it,
and I mean that in a good way. I'm still
ecstatic that it's Daylight Saving Time and I can see outside,
and I'm not ready to go home and go to sleep,
because usually we start the show and it is dark already,
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as if most people's days are already over.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And I can and I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
When the sun is down, I'm thinking, like, okay, it's
time to wind down, but no, not anymore, it's time
to turn up.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
As young kids say. Do they say that anymore or
that's what they used to say? I don't know. I
can't keep it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Once in a while, okay, because look, you're closer than me.
I can't keep up with all the vernacular, all the
changes in the lexicon that young people use today, talking
about cap no, cap riz sus, all those words which
aren't words, but I guess they make sense to somebody. Fleek,
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that's an old one. Anyhow, we have a huge show tonight.
We're going to talk about the man who lost his
daughter to measles. Evidently he's standing by his unwillingness to
vaccinate her.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Have a lot of thoughts on that tonight. That will
be next segment.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And we have another advisory to stay out of the ocean,
as in every single beach in southern California. They finally
have started listening to my show and they realize that,
you know, why don't we just go ahead and tell
them the stat of every piece of water, everybody of water.
Don't try to go in any ocean anywhere in southern California.
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That's at the bottom of the hour, and it's about
time that you all give me a little more credit,
especially you Stefan. We got to talk about Governor Gavin
Newsom again. He has a new episode of his podcast,
and I told you my theory of what he was
actually trying to do, trying to rebrand himself, trying to
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reach a different audience.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
He's not talking to people in California. He already knows
that he has you.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He's not worried about losing California in a hypothetical presidential campaign.
He's talking about reaching across the aisle, trying to reach
over to Maga trying to rebrand himself, reposition himself, represent
himself as someone who isn't so far to the left
that maybe he might be able to steal some votes.
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But his presidential campaign has already begun.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
How do I know?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Because he just talked to Steve Bannon for episode two
of this podcast. Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, you might notice
a pattern here, and it's intentional. And we have to
talk about stephan He finally did the homework assignment. He
finished the homework assignment and saw the ending of Paradise,
and I think he's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
There's something wrong with that kid.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's one of the greatest shows ever on television, and Stephanie,
there's something wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
We need to stage in an intervision. Okay, you have
to send him to a re education camp. Let's not
pull any punches here. There's something wrong with him. And
I don't know what the correct term to use in
today's world.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Nuts. The correct term is nuts. He's nuts.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I thought that was politically incorrect. I can't call him nuts.
I can't call him crazy. Really, we're not supposed to. Oh,
it's frowned upon. Oh okay, Stefan, how would you characterize
yourself other than wrong, alternatively wise, in other words, insane.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Can we say that? Or wise? No? No, no, no, there's no
or okay, alternative math. What do we do?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You live in a world and see the world in
a way that most people don't. Okay, you're on your
own spectrum. You're way over here, way over here. I
don't know how they would describe you if they call
you stormman, rain man. Don't laugh at my jokes and
not give me a rim shot because it's against me.
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But okay, you're not wrong. So Stephan is going to
give us his season ending review of Paradise. Some weeks ago,
I gave everyone on the staff a homework assignment watch
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Paradise on Hulu, and I said, just.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Watch the first episode. That's all I asked.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Watch the first episode because it will reveal something to you,
and then you can make your decision whether you want
to watch the next seven episodes. They're total of eight.
I thought it was one of the best shows I've seen.
I don't know if they'll be able to duplicate it
in season two. It's been re up to for season two.
I don't know, But as far as season one is concerned,
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I'm all in and I'm curious to see what's going
to happen in season two. But if you haven't started
seeing it, just watch the first episode and come back
and tell me how right I am. I have been
hearing from a lot of listeners about Paradise on Hulu,
and they've hit me on Instagram or threads at mister
bo Kelly, m R m ok E L L Y
and to a person, I've yet to see anyone who
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has not absolutely thoroughly enjoyed that show, except for maybe Stephan. Okay,
don't Sully before I can even defend myself.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Can't wait to hear this. Yeah, you gotta be wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But I'm just saying, I'm just letting everybody know in
advance you're wrong and you are not a good judge
of television.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's all. People are already hating me. They like accurate.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But ok oh, okay, okay, we'll see when we come back.
We have to talk about the measles death and the
father of the young girl and how he's adamant that
he made the right to decision, believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's next.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's later with mo Kelly CAF I am six forty.
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I've been talking about the measles generally for a
few weeks now, and it's been intentional because I don't
want people to die unnecessarily, especially children. I think we
have a responsibility to make sure that at least we
protect our children, who most often are defenseless, who are powerless,
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and leave it to us as their parents and other adults,
to protect them. When a child dies of measles, which
is something which is pretty much preventable, completely avoidable, I
take exception to that. And in the Atlantic there was
an interview with the father of the six year old
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girl who became the first measles death in the United
States in ten years. And this father, who went by
the name of Peter, he did not divulge his real identity,
discussed his beliefs that led up to her dying from measles.
And again I always feel obligated to remind people that
measles had been eradicated in this country back in two thousand,
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officially was eradicated. Peter and his daughter lived in seminole,
the small West Texas town at the center of this outbreak.
Peter is a part of the traditional Christian sect known
as Mennonites, and in that sect, if you don't know,
there's nothing explicit as to be anti vaccine. But they
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are regressive as far as modern medicine is concerned. And
that's new, that's not new when you compare it to
other conservative religious groups. Conservative small c not politics, conservative
as far as lifestyle and religion. And Peter, in his
interview with The Atlantic said, quote, the vaccination, as in measles,
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has stuff we don't trust. We don't like the vaccinations
what they have these days. We've heard too much and
we saw too much close quote and I could analyze
every single word he said. But the general sentiment, I
think we've all heard before. The vaccination has stuff we
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don't trust. We I guess he's talking about his community,
his religious community. But the stuff, I'm not so sure
to what he's referring. And there's been so much misinformation
and disinformation, intentionally misleading people on vaccines. Yes, I understand
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why some people may not trust vaccines. I understand if
you're not in a flow of information which is predicated
on facts. Yes, you may not know what to believe
or know who to believe. But most of the traditional
Christian sex, and I say this as a Christian, most
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of them are not anti medicine. And this is something different.
It's not like the men and nits don't believe in doctors.
That's something completely different. We're talking about not believing in vaccines.
In other words, I'm sure that all the children in
these communities will go to the doctor. They're refusing, though,
to treat their children with vaccines. And I don't know
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where that disconnect comes from. It's like you you trust
a doctor and then you don't trust doctor, or you
say there's stuff in the vaccine that you don't trust.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I don't know to what that is.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Because people left and right, not politically, just in general,
left and right on this country will put stuff in
their bodies they surely shouldn't be trusting, from the cigarette
to the alcohol, to all sorts of foods and attitudes
that we know for a fact are killing us. But
you won't take the vaccine, which is ninety seven percent effective.
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It's hard to rationalize something that irrational. It's hard to say, hey,
I'm not going to take the step which I know
is going to be ninety seven percent effective to protect
my child because there's something obviously I don't understand, or
I've heard too much, I saw too much, so I
don't want to trust that. And I say this in
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a world in which people stick themselves with o ziembic
shots every single day without a second thought. But we're
so conspiratorial, and I'll touch on this at the end
of the show. We are willing to die or watch
our children die because.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We don't we're not willing to embrace common sense at
this point. This is not nineteen thirty two. You can
find accurate information. You can find a physician to explain
it to you. It's not like it's beyond the realm
of possibility to find a virologists, an immunologists, an epidemiologist
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to help you understand the advantages and the reasons that
we have vaccines are why measles has been eradicated. And
I don't know how old Peter is the father of
this deceased child. I don't know how old he is,
but according to him, he insists that measles is a
normal part of life for who when where miss has
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not been a normal part of anyone's life this century.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
He is of the opinion that quote and I'm quoting
him now.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He says everybody has it, it's not so new for us.
I don't know if he's if there's something emotionally wrong
with Peter, but that does not even square up with reality.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
There is no everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
There's been an outbreak where he lives, but not everybody
has it. But if everyone had it, you would think
then that there will probably be more evidence of it.
So I dispute what he's telling us, and I'm not
so sure he's being honest with us. But Peter is
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not unique, and that's the main point. There's a Peter
in every neighborhood, in every town, in every city. And
I know, and people are listening right now, probably not
in your head saying yeah, I understand what Peter is
concerned with, because I don't trust those vaccines, either because
I believe that they're going to give us autism or
I believe that the government hasn't thoroughly researched them enough,
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and we don't know what actually those vaccines are going
to do to us long term. This is what I've
actually heard from people while they will eat and drink
and do anything else with their bodies, and as if
they actually understand any of this on the level of
an actual physician. And I say this sincerely, and I
don't mean to sound condescending. I don't mean to sound
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like an a hole. I don't mean to sound elitist.
But this is why I think sometimes we are the
dumbest nation on the face of the earth, because not
only do we have the tools, let me say it
from a Christian perspective, not only do we have the
tools that God sent us to help us, we instead
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want to ignore them and would rather put our own
children in further danger unnecessarily. There was a time in
which people only lived average age of thirty five, why
because of diseases just like this. And then science comes
along and makes it a little bit easier for us
to live a little bit longer. And we want to say,
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as if we know better. I don't trust what is
in the vaccine. I don't know what's in there. I've
heard too much again I'm quoting. I've heard too much.
I've seen too much. Actually, he means I've not heard
enough and I've not seen enough and because of that,
my daughter will not live any longer.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And I've had about enough.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A six forty.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Then, just to let you know we are watching that
ongoing situation. There are reports of an armed person at
a Loma Linda University Children Hospital. There's a huge police response.
We have San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department which is on
seeing no shots have been fired or no reports of
any shots have been fired.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Just to let you know we are watching it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The KFI twenty four hour newsroom is on it, and
as more information comes in, will make sure to forward
it on to you. And in that bumper, as we
go back to what we were going to talk about,
the Beach Boys. I grew up a huge Beach Boys fan.
I've always loved their harmonies. I love their musicality, and
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anytime we get a chance to talk about the beach
or the ocean and the water, I usually throw on
some Beach Boys and it's for that reason. And tonight
I'm talking about the water because there is an advisory.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Officials are warning the public.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You me, Mark Ronner, Stephanie even to avoid all La
County beaches, not just this one or that one, not
just a few of them, not just a portion of
a beach, all beaches in La County due to high
levels of bacteria connected to this heavy rainstorm that you've
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been hearing Mark Ronner tell us about, which is going
to be most likely through the rest of the week,
and the ocean water warnings will remain in effect until Friday,
March fourteenth at four pm.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So, in other.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Words, don't go to the beach during the week, but
sure go this weekend or something like that. According to KTLA,
due to significant rainfall, excessive bacteria, trash, debris, and chemicals
can seep from city streets and mountain areas to contaminate
ocean waters, especially around discharging storm drains, creeks and rivers,
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and the warning also includes any runoff that may flow
onto or pond on the beach sand. This is easy
for me because I generally just stay out of the
water at this point, and not only that, I don't know.
Maybe you're a surfer, and I always kid Joe Kwan
and Matt Muney Smith because there are residents surfers within
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our radio cluster. Joe Kwan You usually will see her
on the Spectrum News Matt mney Smith the voice of
the Chargers, a part of PETROLSI Money AM five seventy
LA Sports and they are serious with their surfering.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
They're out there like every damn day. That's just not me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But outside of the surfers and the reason I mentioned them,
I don't know who else would be going out to
the beach and in the water.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Given how cool are you gonna make me?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Put you on the microphone now, Tiffany Hobbs, I told
you was here early for the viral loads.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
She's usually on at nine pm.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And she's looking at me like, no, no, no, no, not
just not just surfers, but this sister. Okay, So Tiffany Hobbs,
you're saying that there would be an opportunity or reason
for you to take yourself and put yourself in this
poop water.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh absolutely, Wait wait you hit the wrong but hit
that button. There you go? Eight Stephan did you break
her mic?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh okay, we have a broken mic. Try it down?
Okay are we here?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Are we here? Yeah? Radio Share that wasn't me. You
don't want to hear my opinions?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Just say that.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
I am absolutely of the ilk of people who will
get into the water, into the ocean water and go
out there and actually swim in the winter, in the winter,
in the summer, in the One of my favorite things
to do is to swim in the ocean in the rain. Now, granted,
it is best served when you are in the Caribbean
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or somewhere else that may be a little bit more tropical,
but it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
What is the appeal of the southern California beach in
the rain in the winter.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's say it might be fifty degrees, It's.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Just, you know, it's it's freeing. There's something about the
water if you are into the water and I'm at
and surfers feel this way, or free divers, where you
just feel like you're in another world and it's an escape.
It's beautiful, it's refreshing. I'm not a fan of cold,
cold water, but when you live in southern California, the
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water is pretty cold year round.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So does your fiance know this about you?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
He gets in there too. Both, y'all get in the
absolutely absolutely in the poop ties. It's been a while,
and it's been a couple of years on a southern
California beach, but other places. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You do know that we cover the poop ties and
how just about every other week there's a poop advisory
telling you to not go in the water because of
the bacterial limits that has exceeded.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Here's the thing. I didn't know that that was a
thing until maybe last year.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So you've been consuming a lot of pool, you was
in the raw.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
I have a really good immune system because of it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, maybe you won't catch measles.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I hope not. I think this might be the anecdote.
More of us should get out there in that cold water.
Let's push that or not as a remedy or not.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How about I just pro fascinated, get vaccinated, and just
leave it at that and stay by behind out of
the water.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I think the more the merrier mode you get vaccinated,
you go out there and you freeze your butt off
in the water and some of the poop water, get
that immune system up. Nothing will be able to touch you.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No one would want to touch me.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I think you'd be okay the stench alone.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Look, I've been to beaches and I'm not bragging them
saying there's a comparison point. I've been to beaches at
various points around the world, in the Caribbean, in Europe.
I would have to say even the east coast southern
California beaches to me are probably some of the worst
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because the Jersey Jersey Jersey is Look, you call that water,
called that sludge.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
So cow's right on par with that, and it you know,
you can't see through it. It's it's it is.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I grew up.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Thinking that ocean waters was supposed to be green and black,
of being serious because I did the whole idea of
clear water and seeing the sand and the fish that
was completely.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Foreign to me.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I thought that was something that was like special effects
in the movie or something same.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I thought the exact same thing, like that's normal.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah, And that is a part of the draw of
California is that people don't know the reality. They think
it's going to be this blue water like you see
in some sort of TV show or movie special effect,
and you get here and it's the opposite. But you know,
it's a part of why we all live here, right.
No proximity to the ocean, I say that in Jess.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Proximity, Yes, yes, I like the ocean breeze. I do
when I lived in Harbor City, I was maybe eight
miles from Redondo Beach.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Wonderful ocean breeze. Couldn't beat it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
If I wanted to go walk along the beach, I
was close enough to do it. If I wanted to
go hang out on Redonald Beach Pier or go to Homosa.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Beach, the memories, it was close enough.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'd gone to Cabrill Beach a few times and I said, nope,
I will not go there again. I've been in Dockwaller
a few times. Nope, not going back to Dockwaller. But
there were places, for example, like Venice Beach. I didn't
go for the water. I went for the boardwalk.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Oh no, you don't dare get in the water at
Venice Beach. Yeah, vanta Monica either.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So when I think of Southern California beaches, I'm thinking
of the experience on land next to the beach, not
in the water.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Well, let me ask you this. You're critical of the beach,
and I understand why because there are quite a few pollutants.
But do you ever get in public pools?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Not since I was seventeen.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Do you have a community pool in your development that
you use no, no, but people do get in pools,
and I think that I'm consistent. One of the things
that people don't understand is that pools, community pools, shared
pools are just as filthy.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
They're actually worse because they don't just contain hot beds
of fecal matter Jakouzzi's delicious.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
The last time I got into a community pool was
four h summer camp, and this was maybe nineteen eighty six,
So I had no type of history of just getting
in public pools.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Have to live on the edge. MO, you're a little
too straight, Like have.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You seen the movie like Caddyshack, Yes, Caddyshack, Yes, Okay,
then that's all you need to see.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's real.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's real because people will be doing stuff in the
pool in the movie was a candy bar. But I'm
saying people will do ones and twos in the pool,
and people will not be clean when they get in
the pool, and they use the pool as some sort
of like bath. People are nasty, Okay. So that's why
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I don't do public pools. I don't do the ocean.
I like to just stay like on a ship.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Do you use public restrooms?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I avoided at all costs.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
But you have to at some point. What's in the
air in there, mo fecal air.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I'm not staying in there like two or three hours
like you would someone who's at the beach, in the water,
at a pool. I'm in there and I'm literally holding
my breath for a total of maybe forty five seconds,
and hopefully there is some soap that I can wash
my hands with and I will dry my hands on
my clothes.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
The birthday song takes at least thirty seconds, so you
need to extend your bathroom time.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It doesn't take that long to walk out after washing
your hands for thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
How fast?
Speaker 6 (24:30):
What kind of Olympic sprinting are you doing in the bathroom?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Explain it to her. Go in and I'll go out
as quickly as possible. You woosh, and you get out
of there.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
If there's no little foot thing to get your to
get a hold of the door, you get a pipper towel,
you get that handle. You don't touch a thing in
there if you can avoid it.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
This is boy, Matt.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
The only time I would use a public restrooms when
I used to be playing basketball at the park, and
so that was the other place you go to the bathroom.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Aerosol equal matter, it's in the air, it's everywhere. I
get that, but I'm not it's on you right now.
I'm not literally swimming in it. Kind of are No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Kind of not. Not in the studio. There's no fecal
in the.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Air out in the studio, but just out there to
the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Our bathrooms are might as well call them, like you know,
public restrooms, because they're just as bad even though they're clean.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
They can't see my air quotes.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Cleaned every night, and if you've listened to the show
long enough, we told you the stories of someone who
dropped the deuce on the floor in the middle of
the bathroom primitive Were you here working here at that time, Stephan, No,
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Okay, that might have been pre you. I know, Twala,
you remember I was here.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I had have stayed there for days because I don't
know because you think, wait, no, one from the cleaning crew.
They just side stepped it from like two or three days.
That's very passive aggressive. It was a it was a
running show, was very literally a running joke. Oh yeah,
because this is when you're on the weekends, right, Yes,
that's maybe that's why the mini crew is not.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Friday to Monday.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Oh, the weekends are rank around here their rank.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, And I don't know who's worse, men or women.
I don't know their arguments for both.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
No, my daughter told me that the women's restroom at
least here was like the next door neighbor to hell,
because she said she went in there one day and
what she said, Daddy would ever lady was in there
before I walked to there has a problem. Oh no,
she needs to be honest, because Jesus, it was a
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nightmare in there.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Everywhere. Personally, I think guys are worse. Maybe I'm biased.
You know, we can aim and we never hit the mark.
Never Yours is intentional. But that's that's my point. You
walk in and you almost have to like you have
to lean forward and put your feet way behind you
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so you're not walking through it.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Or you have to get a complete a in front
of the urinder because for servers to other they missed
the urine and get right in the circle around the
bottom on the floor.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Of the whole damn puddle. You got none of it
in the bowl, none of it. That's what I'm saying.
It's passive regrets with the doing it on purpose, there's
no way.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And I'm not talking about the people who obviously go
in there and don't flush. I'm not talking about those people.
I'm talking about the people who go over and beyond
the normal lack of courtesy.
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Have you noticed that scarth Ronner has to said a word.
It's almost like he felt like he was he was,
you know.
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Crival, he just left the bathroom.
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We'll leave him alone. He's working.
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Gavin Newsome, he has in officially announced it, but it's
obvious to anyone who's paying attention. He is already underway
with his political care campaign. And part of that is
he has a podcast, which I think strategically is brilliant,
if only because he can keep himself in the news,
he can keep his messaging consistent, and he's also broadening
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his base and his sphere of influence and his profile
as high as possible nationwide, because you know, podcast is
not just for folks in California, And it doesn't matter
if he makes some California's mad, because if he runs
for president, he's not gonna have to worry about California.
I understand the strategy. And right now he's trying to
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present himself as reasonable, sensible and not as far left
as how often he is depicted by those on the right.
How do you go about doing that? Well, you interview
Charlie Kirk and you find places where you agree. And
you interview now like Steve Manning, and you find places
where you agree. And this episode just came out a
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few hours to ago today, and this is Governor Gavin
Newsom's down with Steve Bannon.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
For the record, I'm going down your rabbit hole right here.
I'm not an absolutist as it relates to be against
by any stretched the imagination. And I thought it interesting
where we what I think Biden tripled tariffs on illuminin
and steel, which is getting a lot of attention in
this country today as relates to Canada, and Democrats weren't
screaming and yelling about that so well.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I mean, Fetterman, look you've got you know. By the way,
thanks Governing for doing this. I really appreciate it. One
to have this conversation for a long time, you know,
two of the of the three best economic populists in
the Democratic Party who I think are kind of on
an island. One of the best is roe Qahana Rose
economic patriotism, which we always kid him is just ripping
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off Navarre in my economic nationalism is is you know,
he's an economic populist.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So is Fetterman.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Fetterman just announced, you know we're here today during the
CR I Frederman just announced he would support the CR
if it came in as a Fetterman.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
As a populist.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
And then Shared Brown. Shared Brown, I think has been
an economic populist for a long time. So there are
very strong voices in the Democratic Party, I think now
unfortunately as a populist, I think they're kind of on
an island because it really hasn't been the center of
the conversation with the Democratic Party. But I think those
three are pretty good as far as populis.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Can you see it? Can you see the strategy out loud?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, the agreement, the seemingly they're getting along, They
find places where they meet in the middle, and it
paints this picture, whether you believe it or not, I'm
saying this is the tapestry that they're trying to paint
that Gavin Newsom is not as far apart from those
on the far right as some would believe, and they
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would use this as a marketing vehicle for Gavin Newsom
and his national political ambitions. Would this convince anyone in California?
Of course not. But it's not for you, it's not
for us. It's in the way that not everybody knows
Gavin Newsom, not everyone is familiar with. White people may
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not like Gavin Newsom. That's why he's basically branding himself
for the rest of the country and defining himself before
the opposition can whoever that opposition is going to be.
And although like all the people in Florida loved rohnd
De Santas, the moment that the rest of the country
started hearing from Rohndi Santas, they didn't like him, pay
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close attention because his presidential campaign has already begun and
he's playing his cards as far as how he wants
to depict himself right now for people who would have
never considered voting for him. That's the strategy. And you
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