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March 12, 2025 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the 2025 ‘Rolling Loud’ concert line-up, talk show host Bill Maher’s claim that “‘Anora’ won because ‘cancel culture’ is still with us” AND new data from Vivid Seats that indicates tickets for the Los Angeles Dodgers’ 2025 season are going to be “higher than any other MLB team” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And yeah,
I know, I'm get off my lawn old. I get that.
I get that, And the music is too loud of
kids get on my nerves. All that is true, But
sometimes sometimes I am justified coming to Inglewood. Next weekend,

(00:37):
not this weekend, but next weekend is the Rolling Loud concert.
That's the concert that you can hear literally four miles away.
Last year you could hear it is at Hollywood Park,
right next to Sofi Stadium outdoor. You could hear it
at my house four miles away. I think I was

(01:01):
justified in being a little bit angry about how loud
it was. It lived up to its name, Rolling Loud,
and it's coming back around again next weekend and weekend
after next. Who's gonna be headlined by Asap Rocky, who's
probably still celebrating his not guilty verdict, Playboy CARDI don't
know any of the music. Paeso Pluma, Stephane, do you

(01:24):
know payso Pluma? Heard of it? Don't know it? Mark
Paeso Pluma, No bueno Okay, yeah, and y g Anyone. Yeah, okay, Quavo.
I think I've heard of Quavo Migos. Yeah, there you go. Okay, Yeah,
Sexy read heard of her? No, you've heard I've heard

(01:45):
of her. I mean I've heard her music. If one
of her songs played on our partner station ninety two
to three Real ninety two three, I wouldn't be able
to identify it. Oh, I see, you know, I've I'm
familiar because she's been in the news for any number
of things over the the months and years of her
short career.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Heays, So Pluma is huge. Plumer could probably close that
show probably headline.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Can you name one of their songs? Because I can't.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's no, no, no, no, they're they're they're like it's
like like Latin music. It's it's but it's deep within
the culture.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, pays Pluma probably gives it away that it's Latin music.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, the same, but it's it's just it's like a
deep it's like they're they're like like imagine when we
were young and Gloria Estefan, you know how big she was,
you know, their whole conga. It's like it's like that
I'm saying, just how how big the vibe. The vibe
is big.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think playing the Recovery Wildfire absolutely okay, that's why
it's absolutely yeah yeah. Can you clue me in on this?
I have no idea who they are. No, it's got
one persons. Okay, it's the guy. So it's like bad Bunny.
So why isn't pay so plumo as opposed to pluma Pluma?

(03:03):
Pluma is femina lasting because Peso likes the pluma? Okay,
Paeso Pluma okay? And Playboy Carti. Can you name any
of his songs? I think it's a hiddie. Yeah, Playboy Cardi.
They play Playboy Cardi all day.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
He has quite posibly one of the biggest records within
the urban music genre. Right now, they're playing and non
stop upstairs.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, all right, I just can't name it.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
He's got a single with with Weekend right now, all right,
I've pronounce sound sounds like it's almost like the Weekend
with like a more manly voiced Weekend rappings togues. Okay, no, no, no, no,
because you're not how Weekend has that high voice. And
then Playboy Cardi's got like a more masculine voice sounds
you know. Okay, look they're playing upstairs man, okay, upstairs.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well. Tickets are starting at just one hundred and seventy
nine dollars for general admission. I don't know if that
means you get to actually sit down, if it's just
like a standing area, but it's general admission one hundred
and seventy nine dollars and uh yeah. Attendees will be
treated to signature activations like the Rolling Loud Tattoo Parlor

(04:11):
and art installations that deepen the connection to hip hop culture.
Get your tickets now. Yes, this is plum Okay, that
doesn't ring a bell. You can show me a picture
of his Instagram page. It doesn't ring. No, okay, there's
no payesel no no. But I can tell you also
that I will not be there, and I'll make sure

(04:32):
that if anyone comes near my house, I will shoot
them away and tell them to get off my grass.
No parking. I don't know when it starts too. Is
that the one that we heard, Yes, yes, okay, heard
from miles away miles now. According to the Mayor of Inglewood,
we're not supposed to have that problem again. Mayor Butts James.
But that's right. Yeah, we shall see if they start

(04:55):
playing it loud. It's not like anyone's going to actually
stop them, because it was loud all we weekend last
year and they did nothing despite all of our complaints. Yeah,
because apparently that they had like a record number of
police calls for they did across like five different police departments.
It was Ingwood Police Department if I remember correctly, Manhattan

(05:16):
Beach Police Department, guard Dina Police Department, obviously LAPD, and
also LASD Manhattan Beach. That's scary. Yeah, Yeah, that's far.
It's far, but it isn't that far because I go
there to referee basketball. I know it's seven miles from
my house, but that's about ten miles from the Sofi
Stadium Hollywood Park. I'm just saying, if they're complaining in

(05:39):
it's all the way over there. That's too loud. Oh yeah,
I'll even say that. Yeah yeah, And I have double
pane windows and it did not help at all. It
felt like I was still at the concert.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Also, there's Wango Tango coming out and on Thursday, I'll
be joining in the studio by Jojo and we're going
to be giving away a pair of tickets to Heart
Radio's Wango Tango, which is coming back to southern California,
and it's headed to the beach on Saturday, May tenth,
a little ways out at Huntington City Beach. Wanngo Tango's
all star lineup will feature performances by Joja, Kat, I

(06:13):
know who she is, Megan Trainer, I know who she is,
Kat's eye not so much in mix no psichers a
two old may is that like French at o me?
Are you just making up names?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Now? Cat size the Stephen King's story. Come on, I'm
not out it is Kat s e ye.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, I'm actually I'm kind of glad that JoJo's the
one coming on because he does a whole K pop
thing and those some of those are K pop bands. Yeah,
so he'll know. That's why we bring on the experts,
because I'm not the expert. I mean, for all the
time I was in the music industry, that was last century,
I'm not the expert anymore.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That was huh, it was It's been a long time
since been. We're in the music industry.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That was a long time. And don't forget Heart's Too.
Hearts was also on the bill, as is Orange County's
own Gwen Stefani. Tickets are going to go on sale
on National Pie Day, March fourteenth, at ten am at
AXS dot com. I might go to this. I told

(07:18):
you it's a Saturday. Yes, Huntington Beach is a great
place to go. Huntington Beach is great.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Doja cat Gwen Stefani to me Gwen Stefani and a
reunion of No Doubt? It not just when is a
reunion of No Doubt? As that's going to be a killer.
The only thing is this is just the one little
TEENCWENSI problem. Because I worked in the music industry for
so long, I am accustomed to a level of access

(07:49):
and treatment.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
That I must receive. So if they don't send a
limo for you, you're out. Doesn't have to be a limo,
oh okay.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But in other words, like I need backstage passes. I
need to be able to hang out with the artists
and in that kind of green room area. Oh, do
you have a writer? Not I wouldn't say it's a writer.
But if I'm going to go to something like this,
When you worked in the business, you had access to
everything and anything, because people would want to come to

(08:18):
your concerts that you were working for your label, and
you would extend that courtesy in return. It's like we
had Janet Jackson, Hey you got Jenet tickets? We can
you know, can have Yeah, we'd have some hold over
tickets and we give them out to friends within the industry.
But it was with the understanding, when you have an
artist that I want to see, you do the same

(08:39):
for me. And you made sure that we all had
backstage passes and access, or you can come to like
the after party and meet the artists or something like that.
Those are the things that I'm accustomed to.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I'm a big fan of writers with insane star demands
on them, like they're calligial. Like if you had a writer,
you would make somebody pick the olives off your pizza
and and sit, you know, a couple couple bottles of
jack in your green room.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, but I wouldn't make people touch my pizza. I
would just say, don't order any pizza with black olives.
I just give him the order.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't know if you have to pick the who's
ordered him that the first place.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
By the way, I should would say pepperoni and sausage pizza.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Let me point out the delicious irony that you, as
an Olive hater, work in a building on Olive Street.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's not the first time. When I worked for the
Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra is at Olive Avenue to Olive
Street downtown. Except your destiny, MO, No Olive. Just because
Olive is going to be around me, it doesn't mean
that it's going to be on my pizza. You say so,
oh oh, no, I'm positive. I am positive KF I
am six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I've never met Bill Maher. We have friends in common,
so I can't say anything about him personally. I know
he knows of me because of these friends I should
say former friend. We have in common. I've written about him,
talked about him number of occasions. I don't expect ever

(10:13):
to get an invite on his TV show because I've
never really spoken of him in glowing terms. But he's
back in the news for his Oscar commentary, and I
want you to listen to this, and for me, it's
confirmation that he listens to later with Moe Kelly. Even
if he denies it, I'm running with it. It's confirmation.

(10:36):
He listens to the show. He's in a conversation. This
was on a show Friday, and he wants to make
the argument that Emilia Perez did not win the Oscar
for Best Picture and it was due to cancel culture.
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Well, but there are people who say cancel culture isn't
a real thing.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And ah, there it is. See see he listens said
later with mo Kelly, he's talking about me.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Well, but there are people who say cancel culture isn't
a real thing. And I would say to them, it
just happened again at the Oscars. Now you may not
think it happened. But the movie that was gonna win
it all was Amelia Peretz.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right. That's not true. That's not true. I want you
to put a pin in.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
That was Amelia Peretz, right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And you know, I got it.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Hollywood love this. They're finally going to have a person
who was a trans person. God bless her. And she
did a great job. And I read her tweets. It's
just a little childlike in her tweets, you know, And
that I sent it just a little Kanye ask just
whatever's on the brain comes out. I mean, one, you
know Hitler, just don't mention Hitler at all. I feel
like it never comes out good. And then some things

(11:51):
she said which are just oh yeah, you know what
I've said, things like that. It's just very, very honest.
But of course for the woke community, it was way
too far. And this movie that was gonna win it all.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It was never gonna win it all, but go ahead, Bill,
go off, gonna win it all.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
It was the front runner and she was gonna get
it all.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It was not the front runner.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Front runner and she was gonna get it all. Suddenly
was out to lunch, and good news for an Aura.
That's what happened. So, yes, cancel culture is still with us.
It may just be a little more subtle.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bill Maher won't be the first time, but he's definitely
wrong on this one. I'll get to the whole cancel
culture aspect of his commentary in just a second. If
you know anything about the Academy Awards, the voting period
for the actual Oscars is February eleventh. The voting begins
and the voting ends on February eighteenth, so you just

(12:47):
had a week in there. One week after that, we
had predictions from all the top entertainment outlets as far
as which film was expected to win the Oscar for
Best Picture. And mind you, I'm not disregarding that Amilia
Perez won a Golden Globe for I think Best Film

(13:12):
Comedy or Musical, but it was one of two films
that did well at the Golden Globes. And you also
had The Brutalists, which won. So there were two movies
coming out of the Golden Globes in theory which could
be considered a front runner for the Oscar. That's the

(13:34):
first piece of information. Hollywood Reporter predicted Anora to win
Best Picture. They had a Milia Perez sixth Deadline said
the race is wide open. Yeahoo News predicted Anorra. Variety
predicted Anora. Entertainment Weekly, Say It with Me predicted an

(14:01):
Rotten Tomatoes predicted Conclave. It's dark horse Anura. There was
not any one predicting that Emilia Perez was the front runner.
And let's say Emilia Perez was the front runner. Was
was it the movie the front runner? Liked to me

(14:22):
Moore because to me, Moore was the front runner and
had all the momentum, and she did not win Best Actress.
So just because you think someone's going to win, it
doesn't need to be some sort of conspiracy or some
sort of social statement why a movie does not win.
And if you looked at the history of Amelia Perez,

(14:44):
it was largely disliked by GLAD and other organizations. They
did not like the depiction of a transperson at all.
And to say that it is somehow the woke mob
was the reason that the PI did not win is
to deny all facts as we know it. Mark, you

(15:04):
looked like he had something to say.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I was just contemplating whether researchers had taken the time
to count up the lost hours spent by Bill Maher
complaining and whining about cancel culture. Can you think of
anything more painful apart from say, Bill Maher and Barry
Weiss whining about canceled culture, or thir Jordan Peterson in
there while you're at it, there's a real brain trust.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's weird because the people who complain most about cancel
culture have never been canceled. Number one, and of all
the controversial things that Bill Maher has said over the
years he has never lost a platform. Yes, his politically
incorrect show on ABC was canceled, but all shows are
canceled for lack of ratings of what have you. But

(15:47):
real time, he says whatever he wants without consequence.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Now, honestly, I used to be quite a fan of his,
and I interviewed him, and I read the novel that
he wrote, and it was actually pretty good. But I
think he's really turned into an old Dunning Krueger case
in his later years.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
He thinks very highly of himself. Let me just say
the least, let me put it that way. But I'm
going to say this since I know that Bill is
listening right now or someone will report back to him.
There is no cancel culture because mel Gibson is doing okay.
Last I checked.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Oh, he's even getting his guns back right, and he
is taking a prominent role in California politics.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He is not in any way canceled. Now, let's not
confuse someone who was controversial with someone who has been canceled.
I can't think of anyone who's been canceled. Has someone
maybe lost an opportunity or maybe lessen the size of
their stardom, Yes, but I would interpret canceled as some

(16:49):
sort of definitive and finalized status in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Don't you think, Mo, that most adults can process the
fact that there are repercussions in the real world for
things that you say and do.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, And maybe they're more repercussions now because of social media,
people have more of a voice to at least be heard.
I think if we had social media fifteen twenty years ago, yeah,
there might have been a little more pushback against certain
movies or certain comedians, but there was no voice back then.
But now have you noticed Dave Chappelle not canceled very controversial,

(17:29):
has had a lot of fed up things to say
about the trans community. If you can't cancel a comedian,
I don't see how you can say that cancel culture
is now ruining entertainment. When comedians, for example, have been
more brash, more outlandish, arguably more offensive than in past

(17:51):
fifteen twenty.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Years, cancel culture is not a thing. Even the guy
who the comedian who did the RNC that made everybody
so angry, I read that he just got his own special.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's my point. That is exactly my point. And as
for all the negativity that comedy routine yielded it was
actually a boon for his career. Bill Barr, you are
wrong in every single possible way. There is no cancel culture.

(18:22):
There are certain consequences, and your career may be limited
if you're just an a hole and no one wants
to work with you. But that's completely different. That's not
someone just making a group decision that you will not
have a place in entertainment. It just means that you
won't be as popular as you were before. Ask Will Smith,

(18:43):
he hasn't been canceled. And he slapped the crap out
of a man on live TV, committed assault and battery
for the whole world to see, and they act like, well,
here's your oscar that same night, didn't even ask him
to leave the building, and his only punishment was, well,
you can't come back to the show for the next
ten years. Oh okay. If that doesn't get you canceled,

(19:08):
I don't know what will.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And We're on the precipice of another Dodger season, World Champion,
World Series Champion Dodgers, and I'm so excited I just
know that there is this process where, especially in today's world,
when a team wins and you want your team to win.
If you are a sports fan, if you're a Dodgers fan,

(19:38):
you want the Dodgers to win. If you're unfortunately an
Angels fan, well that's not gonna happen, but you still
want them to win. And there's a price that comes
with it. Part of what makes the Dodgers organization so
successful for the past i'll say decade or so, they're
willing to spend money, they're willing to take big risks,

(20:03):
and they're willing to do whatever it takes to put
the most talent on the field. That means signing someone
like show Hey Otani to a seven hundred million dollar
deal and deferring a lot of it into the future,
meaning show hey Otani could get hurt or have a

(20:23):
career ending injury and the Dodgers would still be on
the hook for most of that seven hundred million dollars.
They've gone out and gotten some of the best players
from around the world, Japan, Korea and other places, and
they'd been consistent in that regard. But the flip side
is there is a cost to it. A mean, I

(20:46):
mean a literal financial cost. If you're going to pay
the big bucks for these players, then invariably that is
going to be passed on to consumers and there's no
way around it. We saw it happen with the Lakers
in Showtime. The Lakers were almost they were on the
verge of bankruptcy. Then they got Magic Johnson and James

(21:08):
Worthy and other players and they made a commitment to them.
But it also meant the tickets to see the Lakers
games in the nineteen eighties they became really, really expensive,
and that's part of the reason why you saw so
many celebrities there. It was the place to be. The
Dodgers are having a similar type of resurgence, and it's

(21:30):
going to be very expensive going forward if you want
to see a game in person. There are a few
people here who have season tickets. I know Amon King
has season tickets and Nick Polly Chinny will catch a
few games over the course of the year, and I've
caught a few over the course of the year. But
you're almost going to have to treat Dodger Stadium like

(21:51):
Disneyland in respect that it's going to cost a lot
of money going forward. To take a family afored it's
going to be almost like a family vacation. Maybe you
didn't know the average price of Dodgers tickets home or away.
In other words, they're a big draw, even on the road.

(22:12):
Average price one hundred and eighty one dollars, and that's
over forty dollars more than the next highest average ticket price,
the Boston Red Sox. For me, as someone who loves
the Dodgers but doesn't feel the need to go to
Dodger games all that often, it's great because as far

(22:35):
as I'm concerned, it costs the same amount on my
TV until they renegotiate that that package, you know what
I mean. So I'm not spending more money this year
on the Dodgers than I did previously. That's okay. But
if you plan and see a lot of games, you're
gonna pay a lot of money. And if you wonder, well, okay,
one hundred and eighty one dollars and it's four forty

(22:57):
dollars more than the Boston Red Sox. Give me some context,
all right, here's your context. It's a twenty five percent
increase from the average price of Dodgers tickets just last year.
Twenty five percent increase in one year, and that is

(23:18):
the second largest year over year increase among all teams.
Only the Detroit Tigers twenty nine percent saw a bigger
increase in ticket prices. And I'm wondering that Detroit Tigers
haven't won anything and I don't know how long and
they jumped up twenty nine percent. I don't know who's
paying that, But the Dodgers also account for three of
the most expensive single game tickets in the upcoming season.

(23:43):
Aside from the Major League Baseball All Star Game, which
is eight hundred and thirty seven dollars average ticket price,
the home opener against the Detroit Tigers six hundred and
four dollars, and the back to back of New York
Key's matchups near the end of June, four hundred and
thirty six dollars and four hundred and fourteen dollars are

(24:06):
projected to be the most expensive single game tickets this season.
I can't imagine spending six hundred dollars on a single
baseball game, but it is reminiscent of the Lakers when
you have those court side seats that started going for
thousands of dollars. You know, even up till today. I

(24:28):
don't even know how much they are today, but when
the team started winning consistently, that is a byproduct of it. Now,
the LA market has made it very clear as far
as attendance. The Dodgers continue to lead Baseball or near
the top in attendance every single season, so they've obviously
the organization has made this calculation where even though we

(24:49):
may be raising prices, we know that the fan base
will still support the team. They just have to keep
winning because Dodger Stadium is one of the crown jewels
in all baseball. I don't know if there's a better
place to watch a baseball game. I've been to maybe
seven or eight of the existing parks. Dodger Stadium is
still near the top in summer, especially in the evening.

(25:12):
I don't know if you can get a better view
in the stadium. It is a gorgeous place to watch.
The stadium and they keep updating the stadium to keep
it as fan friendly as possible. The seats are better
now than when I was a kid. The whole experience,
the food is a lot better than when I was
a kid. I mean they offer I mean, don't get
me wrong, still love Dodger Dogs, but they have other

(25:34):
food offerings to complement them, which makes it more of
a modern feel because Dodger Stadium for decades was way
behind the newer stadiums as far as the food offerings,
and they've caught up in that regard. But you're going
to have to pay for this team, which is on
the field, it's a fantastic amalgamation of talent. They're far

(25:56):
and away the favorites to win the World Series, from
the hitting up to the pitching rotation. But you're gonna
have to pay a pretty penny. I'm not I'm stay
my ass at home and watch on TV. That's the
best place to do it. But for those who have
season tickets, since it's gonna be very difficult to keep
those seats up from year to year. Mark, have you
been to a Dodger game yet since you've been down here.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
No, Someday you and I are going to go and
I'll enjoy a thirty dollars light beer and a twenty
dollars hot dog and we'll have a great day.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, since our partner station is AM five seventy LA Sports,
in other words, the Dodger station, I might know some
folks over there who might be able to help us
with some tickets. I feel like I need to go
at least once. Right, No, you have to go. And
I say this as someone who has any appreciation of baseball.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
You gotta go to Dodger Stadium. Well, I don't hate
America for God's sake, So let's get this show on
the road. Okay, I think I can call some folks
and make it happen. Did you know that our boss
knows people over at AM five to seventy? No?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, you're making stuff up now, I know if I aim.
Since forty we're live everywhere Heartradio app.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's almost like a reveal party, you know, you get
to find out the sex of the eventual child that's
going to be born. Well, the new James Bond actors
gender and nationality have been confirmed by Amazon MGM Studios,
reportedly through an internal memo. This was a thing at

(27:30):
the company, according to this internal memo, and I'm sure
Mark Roner will have something to say about this. MGM
Amazon Studios will not be changing the gender or nationality
of the iconic.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Spy, the guy from Amelia Perez is not going to
do it, nor with a woman. Sorry, yes, let's let's
be correct. I wasn't intentional.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
According to this internal memo, the actor will reportedly continue
to be British or from the Commonwealth. And I sometimes
get this mixed up. To be British refers to anything
related to Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland and Wales,
and while English specifically refers to only England. And this

(28:24):
is something which has always bothered me. Why supposedly Bond
has to be British or Scottish or English, but we
don't have that same expectation of iconic American characters.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Well you wouldn't want Steve Rogers to be from another
country and have an obvious accent, would you. All right,
all right, I'm glad you did that. Why is it
Superman with Henry Cavill because he can pass right?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I'm saying it's called acting for a reason.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Well, yeah, and you should know by the way, that
George Lazenbee, the second Bond, was Australian. He was Australian, huh.
And when they were looking around to replace him, James Brolin,
Adam West, Batman, and John Gavin was actually hired for
it before Connery came back. Those were all Americans.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Spider Man Tom Holland he's English. So we don't have
the same type of expectations for our characters other than
just don't remind us that you're British or English when
you're speaking the lines. But for some reason, for James Bond,
there has been this breading controversy that the actor saying

(29:43):
nothing of gender, but the actor has to be of
a certain nationality, which has always been strange to me
because it's acting and we don't necessarily require that the
actor be of a certain nationality.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yes, which is the art of being somebody who are
not in real life. Yes, interesting, that's a people should
run with that and try some stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Among the popular rumored choices for the next Bond. And
I don't put any stock in this. I believe that
these are just names which have been thrown around at
some point in some time. Aaron Taylor Johnson, you know,
he just starred in that horrible movie Craven. Yeah, that
killed his career. I think Richard Madden, I think he
has a jaw for it. But I don't know if
he's has the acting chops for it. He was in

(30:30):
a spy show that Citadel. Oh, Citadel was terrible. I
think it was Citadel.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, he was in a British cop show as well
that wasn't that bad. But I don't think he has
the riz for Bond, do you No.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I don't think so. There is something to be said
for on screen persona and gravitas and you know, can
he fill up the screen? And I don't think he can.
It's just Elba. I don't think he was ever a serious,
rumored choice. He was just someone that fans talked about. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
He's also too old, regardless of the race swapping, of course,
because whoever's going to be James Bond is going to
have to be conceivably for the next ten years, four
pictures or whatever. The way he was written, he's thirty
six to forty. And that's over and above the fact
that you know they would crank him out in the
sixties like one every year or twobe. Now it's five years.

(31:21):
You got to have him a certain age just so
they won't be a pensioner by the time they get
a third one out.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Tom Hardy have you seen him lately. He is not aging?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Well, no, he's not, but he's a beast and he
does I think jiu jitsu.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
He does. I wouldn't go up against him. No, no, I'm
saying when I say he's not aging, well, he looks
far more grizzled than a Bond would. To me, he does.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
And he was kind of like a pretty androgynist, very
young actor, and he's he's aged a little harsh you're.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Talking about when he's doing Star Trek. Who was it?
Was it Nemesis, Nemesis, Nemetics? Okay, he was Nemesis obviously,
Henry cavill. I think he's too old and too physically
big for the role.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
He would have been good at it. I've seen his audition,
but he was too young at the time. Yeah, back then,
but not now.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I don't know who's actually going to be the next
James Bond, but I do believe that because there's been
so much focus on who the actor is going to be,
because there's been so much infighting behind the scenes between
Barbara Brockley and MGM Amazon, I don't know if people
care as much now. Do you think that would be

(32:29):
fair to say?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I have seen nothing but fellow Bond fans, except that
it's just kind of over. That's what I thought. The
Eon years. Eon was the company that produced the canonical Bonds,
not never say Never again, not the nineteen sixty seven
Casino Royale. That's done, That Ara is over, and whatever
comes next. If they happen to crank out something that
doesn't stink, it's a bonus.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I never understood the fascination with also what Bond had
to look like, because Daniel Craig as a blonde Bond,
I remember, received a lot of pushback then. When I
saw him on screen and acting in the role and
the story which they put around him, I was good
with it. Now, I'm not British or English, and I
don't have possibly the same cultural ties to the character,

(33:14):
but it seemed like it turned out all right.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Well Connery kind of shaped it. But he was written
to look like the old musician Hogi Carmichael, you know,
just a kind of a handsome guy with a comma
of black hair and a scar on his face. But
then then Connery turned it around and it was impossible
to imagine it being anybody but him. And then you know,
they rotated it like doctor who. So now there have

(33:37):
been what six Yeah, but think about it. I don't
believe Sean Connery, even in his prime, could be James
Bond today. What do you mean because in a world of.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
The John Wicks, in a world of the born identity
Jason Bourne, I don't know if Sean Connery and his
affectation would he brought to the role would still be
received as warmly.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
No, And they've really twisted themselves in the knots trying
to update James Bond not to be offensive when the
root of the character is that he's kind of an
a hole.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
He's a psychotic killer. He kills without reservation or conscience.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Well that's not true, but he is a killer, and
he he's a loner, and he you know, he doesn't
have a team like Jack Bauer in twenty four. I
think a lot of people have forgotten what makes him tick.
And so there's been a push even to have Pierce
Brosnan comeback for an old James Bond movie. And I've
reminded a few people online, which, of course those arguments

(34:41):
are always beneficial, you always win those arguments. I've been
reminding people the whole point of James Bond is that
he doesn't think he's going to get old enough to
have he's going to He lives like he could die
at any time with zero in his bank account. Isn't
that the whole point of most of the titles. Oh,
at a certain point, like when they get to no

(35:02):
time to Die, it's like an AI just generated those
You're random James Bond title generator.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Die another Day? I mean, how many times are live
and let die? I mean how many times has die
been in the title?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
It got to be kind of a self caricature after
a while, and they got to find a way out
of that, because you got to remember the character came
out in the early fifties and made sense then in
the context of the Cold War, and it's like that
ship of THESEUS thing. You changed too many things, you
might as well not call it James Bond anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
But they did address it well, I can't remember in
which movie, but they addressed the fact that the idea
of a physical agent doesn't have the same type of
role or necessity in that spycraft anymore because of technology.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I can see that argument. And also our adversaries have
changed over the decades. I mean it was Russia during
the Cold Wars, certainly not Russia this week?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
What ever, could you mean? Our alliances change?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
We just got shut out of a security meeting with
France and the EU, so we don't even know who
Bond would be allied with. I mean, his best friend
might not be the CIA guy Phoenix Felix Lighter anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
It might be.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
A French agent or a Russian agent. Times have changed
and you got to figure out. I would love to
see a James Bond actually set in the fifties. And
now now that we've seen how say well that Serial
Killer show on Netflix, the David Fincher show, how they
can transform a city to look like it was seventies
La or something, you could make a fifties James Bond

(36:38):
and it would look good.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think that would be a better series and movie
than a contemporary one. Yeah, like a Madman era James Bond.
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