June 27, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Tips to help you survive the end of Windows 10 AND some great online shopping suggestions on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – A look at the new Netflix documentary ‘Poop Cruise,’ which chronicles the infamous 2013 Carnival Triumph cruise from hell - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio
app is tech Thursday, so you know what that means.
Marsha Collier, our tech guru, joins us in studio. As always,
(00:20):
Marsha is great to see you. How are you this evening.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm doing great, I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Not tech wise, but it is awfully hard to find
interesting tech stories that are actually tech.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I can give a whole bunch of things, and our
second story is a little bit on the edge of tech.
I found a good one for the beginning segment that
we have here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
What do you want to start with?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
All right, we're starting with Windows Okay, Now, those of
you out there who may have Windows ten on your computer,
I have it on one of my computers and I
really don't want to change. But even if I wanted
to change, I wouldn't change because it doesn't have this
TPM that it wants that Microsoft wants it to have.
(01:08):
Because it doesn't have that chip. So basically, that and
two hundred and forty million working machines can go to
the landfill. As far as Microsoft is concerned, they don't care, No.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
They don't. They want you to upgrade, not only your device,
but your operating.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
System exactly, and they give you all kinds of oh,
you're going to be hacked, you're going to be this,
you're going to be Remember, you can't get hacked unless
you click on something.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
There's that, there's that, and yeah, and the unintended consequences.
And you're going to get into this when you update.
There's some material changes sometimes in there which will completely
change your experience with Windows.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, a long time ago, I lost movie Maker, which
was a great yes.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, that was so easy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you remember win app?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, my MP three.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Player right right there was our go to and they disappeared.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And bottom line, they're not going to do anything, and
they're telling I mean, it's almost like they're threatening us.
And I really don't like this Microsoft. I've been loyal,
as many of you probably have to Microsoft. They say
greater risk of viruses and malware. So you say, okay,
so I go out and I buy a top of
the line malware virus system.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so let's say malware bites.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, I use that on all my machines.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I don't care if there's anything built in, but that's
going to cost you the same thing as Microsoft wants
to charge you to get the extended security updates for
a year, so that you'll be safe if you're running
Windows ten, because they're not going to send you any downloads, upgrades,
(02:56):
bug fixes. But you're not going to need any bug
fixes because you're going to have a stable system to
start with.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I remember back in the day and I was talking
to you off air stand. I think my earliest version
of Windows, this might have been Windows ninety five or
shortly therefore before that, and Windows was a bug magnet.
It was it has so many opportunities for malignant, malevolent
forces to hack your machine exactly. But it's not like
(03:24):
that anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, even if they do have a bug, now, they
hold it off and they'll see if a few people
get it, and then they'll upload a fix, so you
get the fix.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's all seamless. You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, those patches. Yeah, it's different. It's not the same
as it was twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right, So if you'd like to pay thirty dollars, you
can get a year's worth of security updates, which is okay.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean that's if that's your only option.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's your only option, but if you want to get
it free.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Wait wait, hold on, did you see like free ninety nine?
Did you say free?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Free?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Free? Okay, now listen, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My favorite four letter word.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm not gonna lie of have a different favorite four
letter word that starts with F. It's not free though.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh okay, very good there, Stefan, very good. I like that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Finally he was listening.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, right right, he's.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Never paying attention. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's okay, he's eating lunch.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
No, so they instead of thirty years, you can sign
up and get it, get it for your extended security
updates for free if you sign up to back up
onto one drive, which will give you one hundred gigabytes
of storage four twenty dollars one drive?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Is there cloud storage? Still, say micracy?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So right now, if you're a Chrome person or a
Google person, you storing on Google Drive right and the
price is the same. So okay, we've saved you ten
dollars here technically, because the ESU updates will be free
if you pay them the twenty dollars for the storage space.
(05:20):
So that's all lovely and everything, but I'm still I
feel like I'm being blackmailed.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You are no, no, no, you are, you are. They want
to push into a corner where you feel compelled to
purchase that they're guilty used, like to your your machine
is not going to be safe without this right right?
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I was talking to somebody, a manufacturer, a PR pay
agency for the manufacturer, and I said, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Throwing away all these what are they expecting people to do?
And they reminded me remember Windows seven? How long did
Windows seven stay around? Or Vista Vista?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't that great, No state of
around forever. Oh by the way, if you signed up
as a small business with Microsoft, as you might have
done because you were so proud.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I used to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I used to sign up as a business because I'm
a business, because I'm official. Well, you get to pay
more for that's the upside. Yeah, that's the upside. You
get to pay sixty one dollars for the extended security
updates for one year.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I have a question of and it's relevant is that
for a single license?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Okay, and that's only one year, and you can as
a business renew annually for two hundred and forty four
dollars a year where they put two hundred Where did
they pick that out of the air?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Two hundred and forty four dollars?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I guess that price point in the marketing meetings showed
that that's where people were. Yeah, the most.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Still pay Yeah, not to forty five, not too forty six,
forty three fifty would have been too cheap. But seriously,
now I've got the free answer for you. Have you
ever used bing in the Edge browser?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, I did not have a great experience with edgebrowser,
but go.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Ahead, well, I opened Edge Browser today.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I got brave because if you use the Edge browser,
you'll notice there's something called Microsoft Rewards Points, which basically,
if you sign into the browser when you open it up,
it keeps track of how many searches you do, and
it even has a page. The page is at rewards
(07:41):
dot bing dot com in your browser, and you will
see all the different things that you can do, like
the daily quiz, do a query, do this poll. I mean,
it's all kinds of little things and you get points
for this.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I don't dislike Edge, but I don't like the fact
that I cannot delete it off my computers. My life
depended on it, and also I like how it's I
think it's Chromium based. In other words, it works like
Google Chrome. You could import all of your bookmarks in
your setting, so it's good in that regard. It's just
(08:18):
that it doesn't yield the type of experience that I want,
and I don't use one drive, so it's not going
to be appealing to me.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, recently, I decided to run Chrome the way I
normally run it an edge at the same time, and
then I opened Taskmaster to see how much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Memory Chrome by ten times.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was terrified the computer was going to blow up.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's what they did. Chrome is a memory hog when
it comes to RAM.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But they have in the newest edition.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You'll notice the icon or it's favicon is what it's called,
is a little bit smaller in some of the tabs
that you haven't opened recently, and those are saving memory.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They're not loading their memory.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Thank goodness, because it would lock up my machines all
the time.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So let me just tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
These Microsoft Rewards points and I gave as my fact,
gave Daniels screenshot of mind to this morning. And if
you have a thousand Microsoft Reward points, which is pretty
easy to get. Let me see, I have like seven
over seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, so seven thousand so you can buy Is that
like a you get a free keychain? Or do you
get something?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, you get gift cards?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Okay is something?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, you get good stuff. But for a thousand points
you can get your one year for free.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh okay, thousand. How long did it take you to
get there?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Though? Well, roughly I wasn't working it. You could work
it every day. You can get five hundred just for
downloading the app onto a phone, so.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It might be worth it, depending on your pachological system.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Have two phones. He downloaded the app twice.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I got a bunch of old phones. I could do that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, they got a bunch of old laptops as.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, So that's free updates. You don't have to worry
about it, at least for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
A year.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Free ninety nine. Let me come back. What are we
gonna be talking about?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're going to be talking about. Are you enjoying online
shopping the same way you used to?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Actually, I am, that's just me. That's just I know
Mark is because he spends half his paycheck. You keep
me the hell out of this because you know you
have a bad habit like I do, and not so
much actually really, but I appreciate you trying to drag
me into your bill. Thank you, Stephan. I don't know
about that one. Thank you, steph because you tell us
all this time you buy this memorabilia and these uh
(10:50):
really rare items. Where is this even? How are you?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Why do you you told us that you tell us
that you're like, I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I guess you did.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I get like an occasional old James Bond poster on EBAs,
So what and it costs more than five dollars. Yeah,
it's not like a ten dollars poster. Will you look
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Speaker 5 (11:13):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
KIM six forties Later with mo Kelly. It's still tech Thursday.
So that means we're still joined by Marsha Collier and
she previewed before the segment that she wanted you to
ask you, so, you know, do you enjoy online shopping?
What are some of the components of online shopping that
we should be concerned with or aware.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Of, well, the search trying to find something. I don't
know if a lot of you shop on Amazon, don't we?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
We do? So how many times have you searched for
something and you find manufacturers' names that you couldn't even
pronounce if your life depended on it every day? And
I was looking for an extension cord and I you know,
you would think UL approved. That means somebody approved that
is not going to blast your house with fire isn't listed,
(12:10):
so you don't know if it's safe for everybody in
your house. They're not giving enough information. They're relying on
a lot of and I'm not picking on foreign countries,
but there needs to be some commonality in the descriptions.
If you're selling an electronic, you need to have the watts,
You need to have all the information that people need. Right,
(12:30):
it's not there anymore. And we were just talking about clothes.
I used to have fun buying clothes on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It wasn't anything like Shane, but it was cheap and fun.
Now you buy something and all of a sudden, even
the same stuff like a dress I bought last year,
of them are just going to wear inund the house.
All of a sudden, the fabric is like plastic and
I have to return it. I refuse to keep it.
So there's no real quality control. So that's another thing
(13:04):
with the clothing. It doesn't say cotton rayon. It might
or it might not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The clothing is always a crap shoe, especially if it's
coming from a foreign country. You just don't know, and
it has to be somewhat cheap to make it affordable.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But doesn't everything come from China on Amazon Air?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It does, And I think it comes down to what
you're trying to buy, you know, like, if I'm going
to buy shoes, is probably going to be an American maker.
It might have been made in China, like Nike or something,
but it's going to be a brand that I trust.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's the point.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And trying to find that brand on Amazon is harder
and harder because they mix people pay to advertise up
and let's say Sketchers. People pay to have their shoes
listed up with Sketchers.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah. See, that's why I go direct to the company,
Like I'm going to go to Sketcher's site, I'm going
to go to Nike site. I'm not going to sketchers
on Amazon, for example, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But there's become a disconnect.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Customer service really almost doesn't exist anymore. I mean, Amazon
has kind of made it easy to do a return,
but try to talk to anybody. I do have their
customer service number, and next week I can come in
and give out the number.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
There is a phone number.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You've got to try it live on air and see
if we can actually get to someone.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Ooh can we do that?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, of course we can.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like that. We'll do that next weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But the thing is, people, the sellers do not go
the extra step anymore. It you'd buy something, you'd buy something,
you'd pay a little more than you'd expect. Sometimes it
used to come wrapped in tissue. It used to come
package nicely, like the seller actually cared.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No longer, no stuff is rolling around in boxes. So
you've become a user, not a customer.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Go for with that distinction, user versus customer.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, as a customer, you walk. Let's you walk into
a store, somebody says, hello, what are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, let's say they don't even talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You can find a person in the store who will
answer a question, even if it's just where's the bathroom.
You'll be able to interact with somebody. You'll be able
to look at a label and understand what the product
is made of, what it's warrantied for. You can get
all the information. But now you've become a user and
(15:33):
you look even at some of the manufacturer's websites, they
don't give you the information you need to make your decision.
And then you have to go to an FAQ page
or maybe you have a little chat thing where you're
going to talk to a robot. I don't know how
satisfying it that is for you, but doesn't work really
(15:55):
well for me, not at all, because actually that technology
works really well, but most companies are too cheap to
teach their employees or to program the software properly, so
it's going to do the job that it's supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And that again, you're just a user getting used.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yep, Marshall Collyer. I love when you come on and
make it so understandable, relatable, digestible, sensible, all those ibbles.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Ah, hell, you're just waiting for the sex doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I didn't know where that was going that because all
I heard was all you're waiting for is the sex
that got me? She slowed down on that curve. You
just wait for the sex. Doctor, you know, you don't know.
But Marsha's husband is sitting in the studio, so it's
(16:52):
like it's even more awkward. He is, Do I look
at him because he's like, because he's behind me something
like I can just feel, you know, the hairs on
the back of my neck standed up. It's just really
really uncomfortable. And she did that intentionally, you know. I try,
I try, and maybe that's why you can't see this curve.
(17:12):
I need you to stand behind Marshall please so they
can see your shirt.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I gave this to my husband for Valentine's Day, for Father's.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Day, Valentine's Day, Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Same look at the shirt, Hey, Amazon, one hundred percent cotton.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The AI camera is struggling because it's trying to focus
on one of you, not both of you, It says,
best husband ever.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, but I found one hundred percent cotton.
Because you ever get one of those we're out of time,
but one of those T shirts that oh yes, terrible, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And if you just move too quickly, just shreds right, Yeah, Unfortunately.
That's why I'm to your point. I'm very picky and
particular about what I get from where, and we all
get burned at some point point.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But luckily I like going to Amazon Fresh, so I
like to return things.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I haven't been to one of their Amazon Fresh.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
We were talking about TJ's earlier. We have to talk
about TJ's one.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I'm very very I don't know simple when it comes
to grocery shop and I go where I go, and
I'm not trying to go to any boutique place. I'm
not going to Trader Joe's by Lards. They're trying to
make me go.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I was a Trader Joe's on the way home tonight,
and they close at nine, so sometimes we zoom in
where they're at eight point fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You know, I get off to ten, right, you know what? Right?
He said Laterry mo Kelly from seven to ten Monday
through Friday. Yeah, that's I appreciate the thought though. Sorry
about that, Marsha, I love you. Don't do that again
to me. Six doctor, Yes, six forty were live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
KFI later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. You know I love
to go cruising. I really do. In fact, our next cruise,
my wife and I were going to Italy. We're gonna
fly into Rome and then we're gonna hit a few
spots in Rome and then get on the cruise ship.
(19:40):
We're gonna hit Greece, Turkey and some other places. Love
going on cruises. Why because it gives you the opportunity
to sample places of the world, and then if you
want to come back and stay longer, you have at
least a reference point. Last time we went to Italy,
we sailed out of Rome and it said, hey, this
(20:03):
is somewhere we would like to stay for a few
more days. So we're going to fly in early this time,
spend some days in Rome, and then get on a
cruise ship. I love cruising and it just gets It's
almost like a little smortgage board. It's an appetizer diss
You just get a little bit of everything, have great
fun along the way, and you can do as much
(20:23):
or as little as you want. But I'm not blind
to some of the horror stories which have happened over
the many years. And you may not remember, but there
was the what was the infamous poop Cruise where all
hell broke loose back in twenty thirteen, where a carnival
cruise ship going from Galveston, Texas to Cozemel, Mexico, where
(20:48):
it lost all power. It lost an engine fire, devastated
the electrical nerve center and crippled the auxiliary systems from
the Wi Fi to the toilets. Everything was down and
it was just drifting at sea. And the horror stories
of feces coming out of the walls, urine coming out
(21:10):
of the toilets because the toilets couldn't flush, the showers
did work. They were stranded at sea. And now there's
a new Netflix documentary on this that I'm scared to
watch called train Wreck, the Poop Cruise.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Good after the welcome on board, the beautiful charm, We.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Just love going on craziers, the food, the ooh, the
water slide.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, what more could you get? This was absolutely
the bachelorette party that I had dreamed of. We were like,
this is awesome, and then the lights go up. Oh
my god, more than four thousand people are stuck on
(21:56):
a cruise ship that is dead in the water. That's
been All of us were like, what tough.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was immediately crisis mood.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
The toilets were working, well, we can do a number
one in the shower and then I'm telling you, it
got bad fast.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I would never expect having a poop in a red bag.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
No, no, Suddenly everyone's out for themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You could hear the panic. We were starting to smell urine.
Oh oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It was terrifying.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We had camera people cruise on boats, a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Up in the air, Bikes broke out of the ship
is on fire. What the is happening on this cruise ship.
It's like shanty towel. It's like something that came out
of a nightmare movie. The snowball had started to roll
and there's no stopping that.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
My god, it's chaos. It's literally called poop cree literally,
as we always talked about, like yes, I didn't know
that you were joking, No I'm not, but genuinely had
(23:14):
feces coming out of the wall. But this is the
one where like when COVID hit and they got stuck.
Is that the same one? No, no, no, this is twenty thirteen.
This is way before that.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Oh, this is just when there was a stomach illness
that caused the bathrooms to just get flooded. People were
throwing up all over the place. It was horrific and
they were just stranded to see.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, because yes, that's some So they were at a
certain point. Everyone was living on like what they call
the Ledo deck, the top deck by the pool. That
was the only way that it was semi safe from
an ecological disaster standpoint.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Trustfully, food started running out. They were getting light on food,
drink bad. Yeah, it was the worst possible situation.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean as opposed to like a plane going down
and you know, hitting the side of a mountain. So
that's like fire festival in the ocean. Oh it's worse,
but it's worse. The people could have gone home with
fire festivals. This was I think. I think it took
them like a week and a half or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, it was Ooh, I gotta watch that. Oh no,
it's one of those things where I don't think I
(24:26):
want another cruise from the carnival.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
But interestingly enough, this is not. I remember this, and
I remember this was not a thing that swayed me
from going on cruises. It was just my general fear
of the ocean that was it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This I remember. I had this in my mind.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
You were like, don't touch anything, team, you'll be fine, right,
touch the rails, don't touch the sinks, don't go to
the public bathrooms, go back to your room.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I followed all that. I think get sick at all,
So I don't know there are rules. If you follow,
you're good. Because when I say touch the rails, there's
the elevator that everyone gets on and touching all the buttons, everything,
and there are stairwells if you will, at each end
bow and stern of the ship, and there's a rail
that's going up those steps. Don't use the rails because everyone, Yeah,
(25:12):
they may clean them from night to night, but how
many thousands of people are using them over the course
of a day, So no exaggeration. I went to go
add it to my queue on Netflix. It is number
one in movies and it's the first thing that had
appeared on my app Of course, when you're covering it
in a news sense, you're doing it from a distance,
(25:33):
but when they've compiled everyone's camera, phone video and news coverage,
you get to see stuff that don't want to see
it anywhere, And I just want to watch it to
see what they were given at the end. Yeah what
because I know someone had to assude, had to have
(25:53):
and there's no compensation of a future cruise which is
going to be good enough. I just love I always love.
That's the same thing with Fire Festival. I just love
hearing that, like, oh, it was the Bachelor at party
of my dreams and this and that, and to know
what happened. Oh man, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah, And I
wonder if anyone has gone on a cruise since then.
(26:15):
I'm just I'm curious to see how they dealt with it,
not only during but afterward. Other people that would that
were on the poop cruise. Yeah, I mean, how do
you get back on another cruise? I mean, don't get
back on a carnival No, That's what I'm saying. At
least go Royal Caribbean because.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
They I mean Norwegian something, Viking celebrity carnival cruises.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
If you don't know, sorry, we're not going to get them.
As an advertiser. Carnival cruises is like basement barking basements.
When I say barking basements, because it's the most affordable
and with that you get all sorts of folks who
can afford it. So is it like Old Vegas. No,
Old Vegas usually has older people. This is like a
(26:56):
nightclub in the water. And you get the folks who
they're just like they're happy to be on a cruise,
and other other people You're not the first, other people
that are like seasoned cruisers. They say the same thing.
That's like the bargain basement cruise. You can get on
a cruise to the Mexican Rivier for like three hundred dollars. Yeah,
(27:20):
and for like a three day cruise, which is affordable economical.
But there's a lot of other stuff that comes with
it that you you don't realize, you don't want to
be part of until you're part of it. And uh,
I'm Royal Caribbean enough. You know you have to pay more,
but to Walla will tell you you get more and
(27:42):
you and you don't get more as well. You know,
there's certain things you don't have to put up with.
But I'm going to try to watch that. Excuse me,
I'm gonna try to watch.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Forty WM Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Six Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app And during the
break we actually should have taken us to the hallway,
but we didn't. We were having an informal conversation with
Carnesia talking about cruises, do's and don'ts, what it's really like.
Oh man, yeah, And then I'm thinking like, well, if
we do this, and she's going to go to Daniel
(28:27):
and say take me on a cruise, and I know
Daniel probably does not appreciate that, so let me just
say publicly, I'm sorry, Daniel. You are now in for
a cruise. You're on the hook. You're on the hook
for a cruise. And we were talking last segment about
the poop cruise and yes, there are horror stories out there,
(28:48):
but Twala, I think I can say that I converted you.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm officially a cruiser. You're talking about
someone who was petrified of the ocean, wouldn't even want
to look at the ocean. After getting on that three
day cruise, I am looking forward to a week long cruise.
I look forward to the idea of cruising. I absolutely
love it. It is like you said, it is a
city on the seat. You don't even feel the boat going.
(29:14):
You don't feel it. You're just so tranquil. So bish.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It really is tranquil because it's as much or as
little as you want it to be. If you want
to withdraw and hang in your cabin, or maybe just
sit out on a deck, or they have all these
viewing places on the ship where you need just view
the ocean. It is very tranquil.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It is.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't know, if I experienced more of a relaxing moment,
I would highly recommend it for anyone. Now I understand
it's not for everyone, but if you have someone to
walk you through it, and I think I did a
good job of walking to wallow through the process. Okay,
this is what you need to do to get your badge.
This is what you need to do when you first
get on the ship. Make sure you don't do this
(29:59):
things like that. It helps it. You don't have to
figure out as much on your own, and you can
really really have a great time. Carnacia and Daniel. When
you go on a cruise sometime in the near future
that Daniel's going to take you on all the way
around the world.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Carnasia literally has her phone out underneath the counter.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I know, looking at destinations.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You know how sometimes you can hear Daniel laughing in
the background. He's not laughing, silent as a track. He's
not coming in here, he's not trying to join us,
he's not trying to engage us in the conversation, not
not a word. I was expecting him to react, and
it's just like he's not even there though. I don't
think he appreciates it, appreciates this at all, not at all,
(30:42):
not at all. Oh did want to tell you this.
We're giving away a pair of tickets to a rose
called Candace. It's the closing weekend. You may remember at
the beginning week we had Candace Nicholas Lipman on the show.
Wonderful talent, wonderful personality. Her one woman's show Heard Nothing
but Rave review us. It is produced by Juvi Productions,
which is Viola Davis and her husband, so you know
(31:05):
about the quality. Silltimes there Friday and Saturday at eight
pm and Sunday three pm. There will be a Q
and A after the show. It's at the Roeby Theater Company,
which is five one four Spring Street, which is right
downtown LA. It's only sixty minutes, doesn't take that long,
and there's no intermission, and you can go to a
(31:26):
rose called Candace. C an Dace dot com. But we're
gonna give away a pair of tickets right now to
see a rose called Candace. If you are interested in this.
It's closing weekend again. You have to be available to
go Friday or Saturday at eight pm or for the
Sunday three pm show with a Q and A afterwards.
(31:46):
So let's say caller number three you are would be
our winner, and you can see a rose called Candace.
It's closing weekend at the Robitheater Company. And if you're
calling number three, the tickets are yours. It's only sixty
minutes long, no intermission, and it's a great, great, great
production by a great actress and talent performer, Candace Nicholas Lippmann.
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Okay, live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio
app is tech Thursday, so you know what that means.
Marsha Collier, our tech guru, joins us in studio. As always,
(00:20):
Marsha is great to see you. How are you this evening.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm doing great, I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Not tech wise, but it is awfully hard to find
interesting tech stories that are actually tech.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I can give a whole bunch of things, and our
second story is a little bit on the edge of tech.
I found a good one for the beginning segment that
we have here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
What do you want to start with?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
All right, we're starting with Windows Okay, Now, those of
you out there who may have Windows ten on your computer,
I have it on one of my computers and I
really don't want to change. But even if I wanted
to change, I wouldn't change because it doesn't have this
TPM that it wants that Microsoft wants it to have.
(01:08):
Because it doesn't have that chip. So basically, that and
two hundred and forty million working machines can go to
the landfill. As far as Microsoft is concerned, they don't care, No.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
They don't. They want you to upgrade, not only your device,
but your operating.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
System exactly, and they give you all kinds of oh,
you're going to be hacked, you're going to be this,
you're going to be Remember, you can't get hacked unless
you click on something.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
There's that, there's that, and yeah, and the unintended consequences.
And you're going to get into this when you update.
There's some material changes sometimes in there which will completely
change your experience with Windows.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, a long time ago, I lost movie Maker, which
was a great yes.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, that was so easy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you remember win app?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, my MP three.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Player right right there was our go to and they disappeared.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And bottom line, they're not going to do anything, and
they're telling I mean, it's almost like they're threatening us.
And I really don't like this Microsoft. I've been loyal,
as many of you probably have to Microsoft. They say
greater risk of viruses and malware. So you say, okay,
so I go out and I buy a top of
the line malware virus system.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so let's say malware bites.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, I use that on all my machines.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I don't care if there's anything built in, but that's
going to cost you the same thing as Microsoft wants
to charge you to get the extended security updates for
a year, so that you'll be safe if you're running
Windows ten, because they're not going to send you any downloads, upgrades,
(02:56):
bug fixes. But you're not going to need any bug
fixes because you're going to have a stable system to
start with.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I remember back in the day and I was talking
to you off air stand. I think my earliest version
of Windows, this might have been Windows ninety five or
shortly therefore before that, and Windows was a bug magnet.
It was it has so many opportunities for malignant, malevolent
forces to hack your machine exactly. But it's not like
(03:24):
that anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, even if they do have a bug, now, they
hold it off and they'll see if a few people
get it, and then they'll upload a fix, so you
get the fix.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's all seamless. You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, those patches. Yeah, it's different. It's not the same
as it was twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right, So if you'd like to pay thirty dollars, you
can get a year's worth of security updates, which is okay.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean that's if that's your only option.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's your only option, but if you want to get
it free.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Wait wait, hold on, did you see like free ninety nine?
Did you say free?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Free?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Free? Okay, now listen, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My favorite four letter word.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm not gonna lie of have a different favorite four
letter word that starts with F. It's not free though.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh okay, very good there, Stefan, very good. I like that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Finally he was listening.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, right right, he's.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Never paying attention. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's okay, he's eating lunch.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
No, so they instead of thirty years, you can sign
up and get it, get it for your extended security
updates for free if you sign up to back up
onto one drive, which will give you one hundred gigabytes
of storage four twenty dollars one drive?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Is there cloud storage? Still, say micracy?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So right now, if you're a Chrome person or a
Google person, you storing on Google Drive right and the
price is the same. So okay, we've saved you ten
dollars here technically, because the ESU updates will be free
if you pay them the twenty dollars for the storage space.
(05:20):
So that's all lovely and everything, but I'm still I
feel like I'm being blackmailed.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You are no, no, no, you are, you are. They want
to push into a corner where you feel compelled to
purchase that they're guilty used, like to your your machine
is not going to be safe without this right right?
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I was talking to somebody, a manufacturer, a PR pay
agency for the manufacturer, and I said, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Throwing away all these what are they expecting people to do?
And they reminded me remember Windows seven? How long did
Windows seven stay around? Or Vista Vista?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't that great, No state of
around forever. Oh by the way, if you signed up
as a small business with Microsoft, as you might have
done because you were so proud.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I used to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I used to sign up as a business because I'm
a business, because I'm official. Well, you get to pay
more for that's the upside. Yeah, that's the upside. You
get to pay sixty one dollars for the extended security
updates for one year.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I have a question of and it's relevant is that
for a single license?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Okay, and that's only one year, and you can as
a business renew annually for two hundred and forty four
dollars a year where they put two hundred Where did
they pick that out of the air?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Two hundred and forty four dollars?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I guess that price point in the marketing meetings showed
that that's where people were. Yeah, the most.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Still pay Yeah, not to forty five, not too forty six,
forty three fifty would have been too cheap. But seriously,
now I've got the free answer for you. Have you
ever used bing in the Edge browser?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, I did not have a great experience with edgebrowser,
but go.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Ahead, well, I opened Edge Browser today.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I got brave because if you use the Edge browser,
you'll notice there's something called Microsoft Rewards Points, which basically,
if you sign into the browser when you open it up,
it keeps track of how many searches you do, and
it even has a page. The page is at rewards
(07:41):
dot bing dot com in your browser, and you will
see all the different things that you can do, like
the daily quiz, do a query, do this poll. I mean,
it's all kinds of little things and you get points
for this.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I don't dislike Edge, but I don't like the fact
that I cannot delete it off my computers. My life
depended on it, and also I like how it's I
think it's Chromium based. In other words, it works like
Google Chrome. You could import all of your bookmarks in
your setting, so it's good in that regard. It's just
(08:18):
that it doesn't yield the type of experience that I want,
and I don't use one drive, so it's not going
to be appealing to me.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, recently, I decided to run Chrome the way I
normally run it an edge at the same time, and
then I opened Taskmaster to see how much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Memory Chrome by ten times.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was terrified the computer was going to blow up.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's what they did. Chrome is a memory hog when
it comes to RAM.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But they have in the newest edition.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You'll notice the icon or it's favicon is what it's called,
is a little bit smaller in some of the tabs
that you haven't opened recently, and those are saving memory.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They're not loading their memory.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Thank goodness, because it would lock up my machines all
the time.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So let me just tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
These Microsoft Rewards points and I gave as my fact,
gave Daniels screenshot of mind to this morning. And if
you have a thousand Microsoft Reward points, which is pretty
easy to get. Let me see, I have like seven
over seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, so seven thousand so you can buy Is that
like a you get a free keychain? Or do you
get something?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, you get gift cards?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Okay is something?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, you get good stuff. But for a thousand points
you can get your one year for free.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh okay, thousand. How long did it take you to
get there?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Though? Well, roughly I wasn't working it. You could work
it every day. You can get five hundred just for
downloading the app onto a phone, so.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It might be worth it, depending on your pachological system.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Have two phones. He downloaded the app twice.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I got a bunch of old phones. I could do that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, they got a bunch of old laptops as.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, So that's free updates. You don't have to worry
about it, at least for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
A year.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Free ninety nine. Let me come back. What are we
gonna be talking about?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're going to be talking about. Are you enjoying online
shopping the same way you used to?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Actually, I am, that's just me. That's just I know
Mark is because he spends half his paycheck. You keep
me the hell out of this because you know you
have a bad habit like I do, and not so
much actually really, but I appreciate you trying to drag
me into your bill. Thank you, Stephan. I don't know
about that one. Thank you, steph because you tell us
all this time you buy this memorabilia and these uh
(10:50):
really rare items. Where is this even? How are you?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Why do you you told us that you tell us
that you're like, I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I guess you did.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I get like an occasional old James Bond poster on EBAs,
So what and it costs more than five dollars. Yeah,
it's not like a ten dollars poster. Will you look
at the time six forty WeLive everywhere in iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
KIM six forties Later with mo Kelly. It's still tech Thursday.
So that means we're still joined by Marsha Collier and
she previewed before the segment that she wanted you to
ask you, so, you know, do you enjoy online shopping?
What are some of the components of online shopping that
we should be concerned with or aware.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Of, well, the search trying to find something. I don't
know if a lot of you shop on Amazon, don't we?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
We do? So how many times have you searched for
something and you find manufacturers' names that you couldn't even
pronounce if your life depended on it every day? And
I was looking for an extension cord and I you know,
you would think UL approved. That means somebody approved that
is not going to blast your house with fire isn't listed,
(12:10):
so you don't know if it's safe for everybody in
your house. They're not giving enough information. They're relying on
a lot of and I'm not picking on foreign countries,
but there needs to be some commonality in the descriptions.
If you're selling an electronic, you need to have the watts,
You need to have all the information that people need. Right,
(12:30):
it's not there anymore. And we were just talking about clothes.
I used to have fun buying clothes on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It wasn't anything like Shane, but it was cheap and fun.
Now you buy something and all of a sudden, even
the same stuff like a dress I bought last year,
of them are just going to wear inund the house.
All of a sudden, the fabric is like plastic and
I have to return it. I refuse to keep it.
So there's no real quality control. So that's another thing
(13:04):
with the clothing. It doesn't say cotton rayon. It might
or it might not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The clothing is always a crap shoe, especially if it's
coming from a foreign country. You just don't know, and
it has to be somewhat cheap to make it affordable.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But doesn't everything come from China on Amazon Air?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It does, And I think it comes down to what
you're trying to buy, you know, like, if I'm going
to buy shoes, is probably going to be an American maker.
It might have been made in China, like Nike or something,
but it's going to be a brand that I trust.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's the point.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And trying to find that brand on Amazon is harder
and harder because they mix people pay to advertise up
and let's say Sketchers. People pay to have their shoes
listed up with Sketchers.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah. See, that's why I go direct to the company,
Like I'm going to go to Sketcher's site, I'm going
to go to Nike site. I'm not going to sketchers
on Amazon, for example, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But there's become a disconnect.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Customer service really almost doesn't exist anymore. I mean, Amazon
has kind of made it easy to do a return,
but try to talk to anybody. I do have their
customer service number, and next week I can come in
and give out the number.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
There is a phone number.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You've got to try it live on air and see
if we can actually get to someone.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Ooh can we do that?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, of course we can.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like that. We'll do that next weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But the thing is, people, the sellers do not go
the extra step anymore. It you'd buy something, you'd buy something,
you'd pay a little more than you'd expect. Sometimes it
used to come wrapped in tissue. It used to come
package nicely, like the seller actually cared.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No longer, no stuff is rolling around in boxes. So
you've become a user, not a customer.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Go for with that distinction, user versus customer.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, as a customer, you walk. Let's you walk into
a store, somebody says, hello, what are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, let's say they don't even talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You can find a person in the store who will
answer a question, even if it's just where's the bathroom.
You'll be able to interact with somebody. You'll be able
to look at a label and understand what the product
is made of, what it's warrantied for. You can get
all the information. But now you've become a user and
(15:33):
you look even at some of the manufacturer's websites, they
don't give you the information you need to make your decision.
And then you have to go to an FAQ page
or maybe you have a little chat thing where you're
going to talk to a robot. I don't know how
satisfying it that is for you, but doesn't work really
(15:55):
well for me, not at all, because actually that technology
works really well, but most companies are too cheap to
teach their employees or to program the software properly, so
it's going to do the job that it's supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And that again, you're just a user getting used.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yep, Marshall Collyer. I love when you come on and
make it so understandable, relatable, digestible, sensible, all those ibbles.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Ah, hell, you're just waiting for the sex doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I didn't know where that was going that because all
I heard was all you're waiting for is the sex
that got me? She slowed down on that curve. You
just wait for the sex. Doctor, you know, you don't know.
But Marsha's husband is sitting in the studio, so it's
(16:52):
like it's even more awkward. He is, Do I look
at him because he's like, because he's behind me something
like I can just feel, you know, the hairs on
the back of my neck standed up. It's just really
really uncomfortable. And she did that intentionally, you know. I try,
I try, and maybe that's why you can't see this curve.
(17:12):
I need you to stand behind Marshall please so they
can see your shirt.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I gave this to my husband for Valentine's Day, for Father's.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Day, Valentine's Day, Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Same look at the shirt, Hey, Amazon, one hundred percent cotton.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The AI camera is struggling because it's trying to focus
on one of you, not both of you, It says,
best husband ever.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, but I found one hundred percent cotton.
Because you ever get one of those we're out of time,
but one of those T shirts that oh yes, terrible, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And if you just move too quickly, just shreds right, Yeah, Unfortunately.
That's why I'm to your point. I'm very picky and
particular about what I get from where, and we all
get burned at some point point.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But luckily I like going to Amazon Fresh, so I
like to return things.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I haven't been to one of their Amazon Fresh.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
We were talking about TJ's earlier. We have to talk
about TJ's one.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I'm very very I don't know simple when it comes
to grocery shop and I go where I go, and
I'm not trying to go to any boutique place. I'm
not going to Trader Joe's by Lards. They're trying to
make me go.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I was a Trader Joe's on the way home tonight,
and they close at nine, so sometimes we zoom in
where they're at eight point fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You know, I get off to ten, right, you know what? Right?
He said Laterry mo Kelly from seven to ten Monday
through Friday. Yeah, that's I appreciate the thought though. Sorry
about that, Marsha, I love you. Don't do that again
to me. Six doctor, Yes, six forty were live everywhere
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
KFI later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. You know I love
to go cruising. I really do. In fact, our next cruise,
my wife and I were going to Italy. We're gonna
fly into Rome and then we're gonna hit a few
spots in Rome and then get on the cruise ship.
(19:40):
We're gonna hit Greece, Turkey and some other places. Love
going on cruises. Why because it gives you the opportunity
to sample places of the world, and then if you
want to come back and stay longer, you have at
least a reference point. Last time we went to Italy,
we sailed out of Rome and it said, hey, this
(20:03):
is somewhere we would like to stay for a few
more days. So we're going to fly in early this time,
spend some days in Rome, and then get on a
cruise ship. I love cruising and it just gets It's
almost like a little smortgage board. It's an appetizer diss
You just get a little bit of everything, have great
fun along the way, and you can do as much
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or as little as you want. But I'm not blind
to some of the horror stories which have happened over
the many years. And you may not remember, but there
was the what was the infamous poop Cruise where all
hell broke loose back in twenty thirteen, where a carnival
cruise ship going from Galveston, Texas to Cozemel, Mexico, where
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it lost all power. It lost an engine fire, devastated
the electrical nerve center and crippled the auxiliary systems from
the Wi Fi to the toilets. Everything was down and
it was just drifting at sea. And the horror stories
of feces coming out of the walls, urine coming out
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of the toilets because the toilets couldn't flush, the showers
did work. They were stranded at sea. And now there's
a new Netflix documentary on this that I'm scared to
watch called train Wreck, the Poop Cruise.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Good after the welcome on board, the beautiful charm, We.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Just love going on craziers, the food, the ooh, the
water slide.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, what more could you get? This was absolutely
the bachelorette party that I had dreamed of. We were like,
this is awesome, and then the lights go up. Oh
my god, more than four thousand people are stuck on
(21:56):
a cruise ship that is dead in the water. That's
been All of us were like, what tough.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was immediately crisis mood.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
The toilets were working, well, we can do a number
one in the shower and then I'm telling you, it
got bad fast.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I would never expect having a poop in a red bag.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
No, no, Suddenly everyone's out for themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You could hear the panic. We were starting to smell urine.
Oh oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It was terrifying.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We had camera people cruise on boats, a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Up in the air, Bikes broke out of the ship
is on fire. What the is happening on this cruise ship.
It's like shanty towel. It's like something that came out
of a nightmare movie. The snowball had started to roll
and there's no stopping that.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
My god, it's chaos. It's literally called poop cree literally,
as we always talked about, like yes, I didn't know
that you were joking, No I'm not, but genuinely had
(23:14):
feces coming out of the wall. But this is the
one where like when COVID hit and they got stuck.
Is that the same one? No, no, no, this is twenty thirteen.
This is way before that.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Oh, this is just when there was a stomach illness
that caused the bathrooms to just get flooded. People were
throwing up all over the place. It was horrific and
they were just stranded to see.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, because yes, that's some So they were at a
certain point. Everyone was living on like what they call
the Ledo deck, the top deck by the pool. That
was the only way that it was semi safe from
an ecological disaster standpoint.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Trustfully, food started running out. They were getting light on food,
drink bad. Yeah, it was the worst possible situation.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean as opposed to like a plane going down
and you know, hitting the side of a mountain. So
that's like fire festival in the ocean. Oh it's worse,
but it's worse. The people could have gone home with
fire festivals. This was I think. I think it took
them like a week and a half or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, it was Ooh, I gotta watch that. Oh no,
it's one of those things where I don't think I
(24:26):
want another cruise from the carnival.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
But interestingly enough, this is not. I remember this, and
I remember this was not a thing that swayed me
from going on cruises. It was just my general fear
of the ocean that was it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This I remember. I had this in my mind.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
You were like, don't touch anything, team, you'll be fine, right,
touch the rails, don't touch the sinks, don't go to
the public bathrooms, go back to your room.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I followed all that. I think get sick at all,
So I don't know there are rules. If you follow,
you're good. Because when I say touch the rails, there's
the elevator that everyone gets on and touching all the buttons, everything,
and there are stairwells if you will, at each end
bow and stern of the ship, and there's a rail
that's going up those steps. Don't use the rails because everyone, Yeah,
(25:12):
they may clean them from night to night, but how
many thousands of people are using them over the course
of a day, So no exaggeration. I went to go
add it to my queue on Netflix. It is number
one in movies and it's the first thing that had
appeared on my app Of course, when you're covering it
in a news sense, you're doing it from a distance,
(25:33):
but when they've compiled everyone's camera, phone video and news coverage,
you get to see stuff that don't want to see
it anywhere, And I just want to watch it to
see what they were given at the end. Yeah what
because I know someone had to assude, had to have
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and there's no compensation of a future cruise which is
going to be good enough. I just love I always love.
That's the same thing with Fire Festival. I just love
hearing that, like, oh, it was the Bachelor at party
of my dreams and this and that, and to know
what happened. Oh man, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah, And I
wonder if anyone has gone on a cruise since then.
(26:15):
I'm just I'm curious to see how they dealt with it,
not only during but afterward. Other people that would that
were on the poop cruise. Yeah, I mean, how do
you get back on another cruise? I mean, don't get
back on a carnival No, That's what I'm saying. At
least go Royal Caribbean because.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
They I mean Norwegian something, Viking celebrity carnival cruises.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
If you don't know, sorry, we're not going to get them.
As an advertiser. Carnival cruises is like basement barking basements.
When I say barking basements, because it's the most affordable
and with that you get all sorts of folks who
can afford it. So is it like Old Vegas. No,
Old Vegas usually has older people. This is like a
(26:56):
nightclub in the water. And you get the folks who
they're just like they're happy to be on a cruise,
and other other people You're not the first, other people
that are like seasoned cruisers. They say the same thing.
That's like the bargain basement cruise. You can get on
a cruise to the Mexican Rivier for like three hundred dollars. Yeah,
(27:20):
and for like a three day cruise, which is affordable economical.
But there's a lot of other stuff that comes with
it that you you don't realize, you don't want to
be part of until you're part of it. And uh,
I'm Royal Caribbean enough. You know you have to pay more,
but to Walla will tell you you get more and
(27:42):
you and you don't get more as well. You know,
there's certain things you don't have to put up with.
But I'm going to try to watch that. Excuse me,
I'm gonna try to watch.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (27:57):
Forty WM Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Six Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app And during the
break we actually should have taken us to the hallway,
but we didn't. We were having an informal conversation with
Carnesia talking about cruises, do's and don'ts, what it's really like.
Oh man, yeah, And then I'm thinking like, well, if
we do this, and she's going to go to Daniel
(28:27):
and say take me on a cruise, and I know
Daniel probably does not appreciate that, so let me just
say publicly, I'm sorry, Daniel. You are now in for
a cruise. You're on the hook. You're on the hook
for a cruise. And we were talking last segment about
the poop cruise and yes, there are horror stories out there,
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but Twala, I think I can say that I converted you.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm officially a cruiser. You're talking about
someone who was petrified of the ocean, wouldn't even want
to look at the ocean. After getting on that three
day cruise, I am looking forward to a week long cruise.
I look forward to the idea of cruising. I absolutely
love it. It is like you said, it is a
city on the seat. You don't even feel the boat going.
(29:14):
You don't feel it. You're just so tranquil. So bish.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It really is tranquil because it's as much or as
little as you want it to be. If you want
to withdraw and hang in your cabin, or maybe just
sit out on a deck, or they have all these
viewing places on the ship where you need just view
the ocean. It is very tranquil.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It is.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't know, if I experienced more of a relaxing moment,
I would highly recommend it for anyone. Now I understand
it's not for everyone, but if you have someone to
walk you through it, and I think I did a
good job of walking to wallow through the process. Okay,
this is what you need to do to get your badge.
This is what you need to do when you first
get on the ship. Make sure you don't do this
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things like that. It helps it. You don't have to
figure out as much on your own, and you can
really really have a great time. Carnacia and Daniel. When
you go on a cruise sometime in the near future
that Daniel's going to take you on all the way
around the world.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Carnasia literally has her phone out underneath the counter.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I know, looking at destinations.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You know how sometimes you can hear Daniel laughing in
the background. He's not laughing, silent as a track. He's
not coming in here, he's not trying to join us,
he's not trying to engage us in the conversation, not
not a word. I was expecting him to react, and
it's just like he's not even there though. I don't
think he appreciates it, appreciates this at all, not at all,
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not at all. Oh did want to tell you this.
We're giving away a pair of tickets to a rose
called Candace. It's the closing weekend. You may remember at
the beginning week we had Candace Nicholas Lipman on the show.
Wonderful talent, wonderful personality. Her one woman's show Heard Nothing
but Rave review us. It is produced by Juvi Productions,
which is Viola Davis and her husband, so you know
(31:05):
about the quality. Silltimes there Friday and Saturday at eight
pm and Sunday three pm. There will be a Q
and A after the show. It's at the Roeby Theater Company,
which is five one four Spring Street, which is right
downtown LA. It's only sixty minutes, doesn't take that long,
and there's no intermission, and you can go to a
(31:26):
rose called Candace. C an Dace dot com. But we're
gonna give away a pair of tickets right now to
see a rose called Candace. If you are interested in this.
It's closing weekend again. You have to be available to
go Friday or Saturday at eight pm or for the
Sunday three pm show with a Q and A afterwards.
(31:46):
So let's say caller number three you are would be
our winner, and you can see a rose called Candace.
It's closing weekend at the Robitheater Company. And if you're
calling number three, the tickets are yours. It's only sixty
minutes long, no intermission, and it's a great, great, great
production by a great actress and talent performer, Candace Nicholas Lippmann.
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