March 18, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the abysmal new Russo Brother’s Netflix film ‘The Electric State’ AND the 40th running of Los Angeles Marathon…PLUS - An in-depth look at the 2024 Los Angeles crime stats - KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
If I am six forty, it'th later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I tell you,
rainy days and Mondays always get me down. Well, it's
not raining, but it is Monday. And I had a real,
real busy weekend. I mean it was really really busy.
You ever have that feeling when you come back to
work on a Monday that you didn't have a weekend,
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and it's like.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, shoot, I gotta go another five days. But it's good,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What was bad was this movie I saw over the
weekend when I did have some free time, and I
have watchers remorse. We all have limited amount of time
that we have to spend, you know, doing what we
wanted to. And I decided to put on this movie
called Electric Slate on Netflix. And it was really really
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publicized and promoted.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And if you're familiar with the.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Russo brothers, they are big deals, real real big deals
in the industry. They directed The Avengers, and Mark Ronner
made allusions to this last week.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I tried to warn you, but you don't listen to
me like you should.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm thinking that I could just go ahead and pop
it in and if you start with low expectations, you'll
finish with a degree of enjoyment because you started with
low expectations, no expectations, no disappointments. That's generally how I
lived my life. I should have turned off the TV
the moment the opening credits started rolling. That and I
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didn't finish it. I only got like forty five to
fifty minutes in. That was probably one of the worst
pieces of defecation I seen since maybe Battlefield Earth.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What did I tell you? What was it Friday when
I came staggering in here? Something like it? It's probably
the stinker of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but I don't believe you about much of anything,
so there's no reason to take your word.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I think we've learned a lesson from this, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you put black olets on your pizza, so you're
questionable to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm not going to let you drag me into that
black olive morass again today. But this movie we finally
agree on this. We agree on this, and it was
so bad. I was watching it last night. I couldn't
finish it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And you ever go to bed angry because you watched
something which wasted the last remnants of your weekend, and
I felt that someone like took money out of my pocket.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I was so angry. Oh, I've been angry ever since
Thursday night when when I saw the first hour of it.
It's like, you think, I'm that stupid that you would
give this thing to me to watch? How dare you
russo brothers? How dare you net? How dare every single
person involved in this? You belong in front of a
tribunal at the Hague. This wasn't just a movie. This
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was a grievous personal insult. The he you should be
pissed about that, the hag not Gigbo. But am on
a plane in Venezuela. I guess that's the thing in
the week that I see what you did there.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But you know, with our luck, the plane will probably
turn around and come back as opposed to not if.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A judge orders it too. But we got to be
on top of the trends here.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We got a lot of topical references in there. Yeah,
that was my weekend and doing some other things. But
you know, it's good to be back with all of you.
Oh and rolling loud yesterday. This weekend was not as
loud as it was in previous years. Maybe they got
the message, maybe they understood that there was some sort
of noise ordinance.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But you can't have four hundred and fifty five decibels
all week and long. So I did not hear it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
From my house, but those who lived in Englewood proper,
they were still complaining, so evidently it was pretty loud.
We're gonna hear from Mayor Karen Bass. She gave out
the crime stats today and says that they are down now.
I'm quite sure there's skepticism all around.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We tend not to believe her government.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I'm gonna see if I can have a different
conversation about our perception of crime. They're gonna do it
at two times. I'm gonna do it at the bottom
of the hour and also at the end of the show.
With my final thought, there's a lot I got to
say about crime, how we deal with it, and how
we should look at it. So we'll definitely talk about that.
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And there's going to be a Starship Troopers remake. Really really,
I was not a fan of the first one. I said.
I just thought it was too campy, too unseable, and
I think I don't think it was true to the
source material, and I think Mark Ronner backs me up
on that at at least as far as tone.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do you understand that it was satire?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I deals understand it was satire and the larger point
it was trying to make. But that movie, the way
it was presented, I don't think it was trying to
make that larger point about h It was satire, just
like RoboCop.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I think the world is starting to catch up
to PAULI Verhoven's sense of satire. There are a lot
of people took it at face value at the time,
and now they're like, oh, he was mocking Americans. How
dare he?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well now that not only are we catching up to
him as a director, America is catching up to his
vision of Detroit and Robocops.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So we see like, oh, that's what he was talking about.
Same thing with Starship Troopers. He was making the same
critiques of you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Mean bugs gonna start lobbing rocks at us that it
has nothing to do with the bugs.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They had nothing to do. I want to know more.
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So all that and more tonight as we kick off
the week, We're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We're gonna learn some things from each other.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're gonna talk about crime, hopefully have a higher caliber
of conversation regarding crime, not just the same platitudes that
we hear from politicians, not just the same complaints that
we hear from the populace like you and someone else,
who have to say everything about crime.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's dang that's out there. Las is just a crime
written city.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But there's there's something in between, something that's been missed,
and we're going to hit it tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Thank goodness, I was not caught up in that snarl
of a traffic jam yesterday in and around all of
Los Angeles thanks to the Los Angeles Marathon. The fortieth
annual had a number of friends running in it, and
I wish them good luck. There's no way in the
world I was going to participate. I know my limitations.
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I have no desire to run more than sixty feet
at a time. That's it. I'd like to stay within
my boundaries. I know exactly what I can and cannot do,
and I've never had any desire to run long distances.
Did a little track back in middle school, in high school.
Did not want to do long distances. It was not
my thing. I'll never understand the motivation to run twenty
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six point two miles, but I will never dismiss it.
I think it's a tremendous accomplishment. In fact, I did
not even know, and maybe you did, but I did
not know that an American had not won the La
Marathon in over thirty years. Match Matt Rickman won the
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marathon yesterday with a time of two hours, seven minutes
and fifty six seconds, and it was three minutes ahead
of the second place finisher. And Rickman's victory he means
he is the first American to win the race since
nineteen ninety four. And for what I see here, the
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two hours, seven minutes and fifty six seconds beat Mark
Ronner's marathon time by three hours, eight minutes and forty
five seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh, I was slow and I'll never do it again.
Either walk much of it or did you at least jog.
I reached a point I think after like mile twelve,
mile fifteen, something like that, where I would start each
mile with a little bit of a walk because it
killed me. And I got to remind you I didn't
train for it. I did it as a prank on yourself.
Clearly sorry you went out there for a second and
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say you did it as a prank on yourself. No,
I did it as a prank because I fancied myself
some sort of low level George Plimpton who would just
go and do things and then write about them, write
funny columns that for some reason, my discomfort and humiliation
were popular with readers. Go figure, there's certain things I'm
just not going to do. Could I do it if
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I trained? Probably not. My hips wouldn't allow it. I
don't know if I could even get up to that point.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur about where I
am in life. Now, other people they can, and they
do a marathon at sixty years old, or first one
at sixty years old or older. I won't be that person. Well,
there's no reason to do it. You have nothing to prove.
Neither do I. There's I think the people who do
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marathons need mental help. They need wow. They need to
talk to a professional who can get them through the
reasons why they feel compelled to do this horrific thing
to themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Sam is our resident psychologists? More psychiatrists? How would you
get psychologists? I can't prescribe medical okay, a resident psychologist.
Have you successfully defended your dissertation yet?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Not yet?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
No, I'm still writing. It's still putting it together. How
many pages I will be a doctor?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay? How many pages is it going to be?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Roughly, I'm guessing it's going to be upwards of about
eighty to ninety pages.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's not bad. I'll think it could be one hundred
and fifty two hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
So yeah, Well, it depends on how deeply I want
to interpret the data. But as far as people running
the marathon goes, i'd ask them, what are you running from?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There? You go? That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because a lot of people will go and have a
lot of personal problems and not want to deal with
those personal problems, and they'll spend all their time training
or spend their time working bearing themselves at work.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
See a lot of disassociative behavior.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, well, not necessarily dissociating, but trying to be able
to distract themselves from whatever they're either running away from
emotionally or afraid of. It depends on what the It
depends on the individual person obviously, But yeah, i'd ask
what are you running from?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Is it your contention doctor, that people who find enjoyment
in marathons or distance running which includes all the training,
that there may be some or a likely underlying, unresolved
issue which is indicative of some sort of mental illness.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I wouldn't say that about everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Some people are doing it maybe as you know, like
they got into it as a way to improve something
about themselves. But there's a lot of people who all
they do is fixate on it and all that. Like,
you can see that there's something missing with them because
they're focusing just on the training and only on that,
and they're letting other avenues of their life completely go
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by the wayside.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Let me flip this and argue it from the other side.
What about the person is saying, look, I'm in the
best health of my life, or at least they think so.
I'm doing something which is not hurting anyone. I'm doing
something which is productive. You can argue on some level
what's wrong with that? Nothing if it doesn't bother a person.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
The thing is, it's the thing that makes something diagnosable clinically,
is if it causes a person distress. If it doesn't
cause that individual distress, it's fine. It's not harming anybody else.
It's not doing anything to harm a single person around them.
It makes them, makes that person feel more emboldened to feel,
it gives them a stronger sense of self.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There's nothing wrong with it at all.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
If they realize that during the training they can't stop running,
they can't stop training, then they may start feeling a
little bit distressed about the whole process.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh so, if anything crosses the line into too obsessive
compulsive behavior, then maybe, oh it has.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
To cause distress.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
If it doesn't cause them distress, I can't make a diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
If I run them out, it would call me cause
me distress. So isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Is it physical or emotional distress?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And trust me, if I'm running a mile right now,
I'm in physical pain and probably hating my life.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So if I were to run a mile, there's something
wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Then emotionally, no, No, A mile is fine if it's
something that's meant, if it's for a purpose, if you're
running for no reason, if you're running because you're pretending
that you're being chased by somebody, or you actually think
you're being chased by.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Someone you know.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Those are there are there can be some psychological issues
that go into that, but really, there's nothing wrong with
people who want to just stay physically fit. It's just
are you intentionally focusing more on your fitness because you're
trying to avoid some psychological mental health crisis something that
deeply put you know, deeply troubling you, but you're doing
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everything you can to distract from it. People bury themselves
in their work, specifically to avoid dealing with their own
mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, get out of my life all right now, now you
hit her too close to home. I've been burying myself
in my work. I'm working all the time, doing stuff
from home, doing stuff from the studio, trying to book
guests and everything. So heart to heart, just tell me
what's wrong with me, Sam, Doctor Sam.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You take a lot of pride in what you do,
and being successful makes you feel good. There's nothing wrong
with that. I don't think anything you're doing right now
causes you distress. I think the rest of the world
around you might be distressed.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're gonna say, now, maybe you should talk to my
wife because her view of me is in stark contrast
with what you had to say.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I'm willing to bet that she has a much more
intimate view of you, which I say, I mean, I've
known you for a few years, but not that deeply.
She gets to see you, know, I guess more of
how the sausages made it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh, I guess, yes. Let me let me put things
into perspective for you. The one time I did a marathon,
it was the Chicago Marathon. I was there was free
beer at the end of the race, after the finish line.
I was so destroyed that I could not drink any
of the free beer ed and I thought, in that moment,
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what have I done? The world is upside down, This
is topsy turvy. This makes no sense to me, and
that's one reason why I'll never do it. How could
you refuse free beer if you are in your right mind.
I don't drink beer except for Dodger games. I don't
drink beer. How could a normal person refuse free beer? Oh?
You know, to catch your breath, to be able to breathe.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I mean, if you're out of breath, then yours you
can barely stand up. Then I can understand passing up
a beer and waiting until you someone at least puts
you in a wheelchair for it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's just a completely unnatural David Blaine thing to do
to yourself. Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
All I know is if the whole process, the activity
might have me lose control of by bowels.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's always that risk. By the way, Okay, it's probably
not for me.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, I don't need to run twenty six miles for
instead of a laxative. Okay, I could just do some
dunkalax and just leave it at that. I don't need
to put my body through that type of hell.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, because as you age, you have less and less
control over pretty much everything. And who wants to roll
those dice in the middle of a crowded ring. No,
and you got to put something in your stomach.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Guy, assume you can't run a marathon on an empty stomach,
can you?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh? No, you need fuel.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
And we've all seen the pictures of people who've had
those moments during marathons, and you can't. I mean, you
feel bad for them. You're not going on a Wheati's box. Really,
you knew what you were getting into. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The person who loses their bowels now has seen the
pictures of other people losing their bowels.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You're not going in like what I didn't know that
could happen? What is happening to me? Why is it
this dribbling stuff is happening behind me? No, you can't
claim igrants. You know you signed up for that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
In fact, you paid money for the privilege of losing
your bowels in front of thousands of people.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I wonder, though you talked a few weeks back about
special diapers for all day concerts, there's gotta be depends
for marathons now right. It seems like it would chaf
well that. Okay, I'm not gonna every mindy. I think
we should move on. We need to start really making
like more ergonomic.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do you think about what they're wearing the diapers? Probably not,
only are they not aero dynamic. It just seemed like
could be a bit cumbersome. Can you run with a load?
I gotta get to the news. So it's not a no.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
It is a no. I did not. But actually, okay,
I'll admit this and then and then we have to go.
And this is all I'm willing to say. I didn't
pack really well before I did the marathon, and I
ran the whole Chicago Marathon with no underwear.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AMS.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I want to spend some time tonight, some real time,
talking about crime, our concept of it, our perception of it,
what we think of it with respect to politicians and
elected officials. We live in an age where we generally,
I will say, generally, if you're not one of these people,
didn't find disregarded, but we generally distrust our elected officials,
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may be on political lines, may be on conspiratorial lines,
we generally distrust our elected officials. Meaning if our preferred
candidate slash party is not in power, we definitely distrust
numbers which come out, And if it's our preferred candidate,
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then we're a little bit more accepting. With that in mind,
I know that if you are not a Democrat, if
you don't support Karen Bass, then probably going to disregard
any type of positive numbers that she may have to
report regarding crime. Unfortunately, that's where we are as a nation,
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and I don't want people to to just sort of
hone in on the numbers.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
This is a little bit more general.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Earlier this morning, Mayor Bass had a press conference talking
about and I'll tell you in advance the improved crime
numbers in the city of Los Angeles. Right now, she's
going to have her say, and then afterward I will
have a say, and I'll also close the show tonight
with my final thought on crime. As the final say
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here is Mayor Bass.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
My job as your mayor is to keep the city safe.
And we are here today to talk about the twenty
twenty four crime data which reports that both homicides and
violent crime are down in Los Angeles. Now, we certainly
understand that if you have been a victim of crime,
are knows someone who's been a victim of crime, these
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statistics do not necessarily represent your experience.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'll agree with her there.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
If you've been a victim of crime or know someone
who's been a victim of crime, your perception of the
crime statistics is going to be different. But here's the
problem with that, or I should say, the reality of that.
I'm guessing just about everybody knows someone who's a victim
of crime in the past couple of years, be it
a catalytic converter, stolen, be it some sort of theft, burglary, robbery, looting.
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We know somebody right, so our view is going to
be somewhat stw So I will agree with her on that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Any crime is unacceptable to us. And we know that
everyone standing here today knows that we must continue to
approach this issue with urgency and precision. Over the last
two years, we've made key improvements and a comprehensive approach
to public safety. Our recruitment of people who want to
be officers are up. We have attracted record numbers of
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applicants to join the department. However, we are still struggling
with the hiring process.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is crime a function of having more police officers.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Or not?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now I've talked about Metro and how it needs to
have its own dedicated law enforcement arm who can actually
patrol the trains, but I'm saying and platforms, what have you.
But more generally, is it just having more police, more
law enforcement presence or is it something else.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We've decreased street encampments by ten percent, and what that
means is is that that's a decrease in police calls.
It's also a decrease in crime that can be associated
with encampments. We've launched effective task forces like the Organized
Retail Task Force, which has led to hundreds of arrests
and millions of dollars in stolen goods recovered. Smashing grabs declined.
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The Heavy Metal Task Force has made more than one
hundred arrests and recovered thousands of cop thousands of pounds
of copper wire. If you wonder why your street lights
are out, many chances it's because of copper wire theft.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
A lot of the street lights in my neighborhood are
out because of copper wire theft, and a lot of
the fire hydrants have been ventalyzed as well, rendering them
inoperable on certain occasions, and obviously against the backdrop of
the fires. That is a cause for concern. But the
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question is as far as crime. If I walk outside today,
do I walk outside thinking that, well, crime is down
whatever number. Let's say murders are down ten percent. Do
you feel ten percent safer? Does that thought actually go
through your mind? Do you feel as if because the
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stats say one thing, that you will also feel a
certain way or is crime about what happened in the
past and not a predictor of the future. I think
it's that And just because we had fewer murders in
twenty twenty four doesn't mean that we're on a trajectory
where we'll have fewer murders in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't walk outside and say.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Hey, Sam, I feel ten percent safer today because crime
is down ten percent. That thought has never crossed my mind.
My head is always on a swivel. I'm always concerned
about my surroundings and people who might be surrounding me.
I'm always careful about where I drive and who might
be able to see me, whether I'm making myself more vulnerable.
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That has nothing to do with crime stats. And I
don't look to the mayor per se as the person
who's going to make me feel safer.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Am I wrong in that regard, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I feel like the mayor shouldn't necessarily be the one
to give you that feeling. Although when you get those numbers,
it's nice knowing that. Individual people, though, however, are gonna
have their own feelings of safety based off of what
location they're at at what time.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And there's something else here is part of the civics lesson.
Mayor bass is talking about murders within the parameters and
boundaries of La City. And we know crime doesn't have
any respect for boundaries. Here's what I mean. I live
in the city of Los Angeles, unincorporated, but still is
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the city of Los Angeles. I can listen to these
crime stats, and I can also tell you, as I
border Inglewood that I don't feel any differently, especially when
I know about the murder of Juan Sanchez, who was
trying to as a good samaritan stop the catalytic converter
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theft and he ended up murdered for it. So you
can tell me whatever you want as it relates to statistics,
My reality is just because you're giving me La city statistics,
my parameters of safety don't have such boundaries.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not gonna say, hey, i'm.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Standing in LA right now, I'm ten percent stafer if
I as opposed to standing in Inglewood, which is one
street over. And that's a part of the bigger conversation
about crime and safety. It doesn't matter to me what
the stats say inside of the city of La. It
matters to me and I assume everyone else how we
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feel in a general sense. And I know feelings are
not facts, but it's how we have to position ourselves
when we think about safety. In other words, if I'm
going to walk my dogs around the block, everything has
to do with how I feel about my safety. I'm
not looking at the LA Times website and say, hmm,
let's see how many dog walkers have been shot this year.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, I'm not looking to see how safe it is.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it on the citizen app to see how much
crime there will use two days ago or in two
blocks away. It is completely about my assessment of the
immediate surroundings. Going back to the street light in Copper Wire,
I see three street lights out, I'm less likely to
go walking. Why because that probably makes me more of
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a target and the crime stats have nothing to do
with that.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
LAPD has launched focused initiatives, like the one in MacArthur Park,
which has started to interrupt a cycle of crime, and
just two weeks ago recovered three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of stolen goods. Another major change to Los
Angeles Police Department is welcoming back Jim McDonald as our chief.
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He has improved morale, He has committed to growing the
department and enhancing relationships with communities across the city. So
I also want to acknowledge the community leaders that are
here today because this happens together, so we know that
in order to actually make La safer, we need a
comprehensive approach, suppressing crime when it happens and working hard
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to prevent crime from taking place to begin with.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I don't disagree with any of that, and I'll talk
more about that with my remarks at the end of
the show. I wish personally that it was less of
a speech and presentation, and she just talked to us
as people who are concerned with our everyday safety right
where we are, not the number of murders, not the
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number of thefts. And I know politically this is about
changing the conversation, moving it away from the fires, moving
it away from the recall. I get the politics of it.
I'm just talking about the personal connection that I wish
our political leaders had with people like you and me.
When I go to the store, What is on my mind?
What am I concerned with when I'm going to get gas.
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We talked about that. When I get on the Metro,
it's not how many people were murdered. It has to
do with understanding that I'm concerned about my wellbeing, my
wife's well being. I'm concerned about anyone in a who
is in my sphere of concern, and if I could
get that from our political leaders, I would be more
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inclined to buy in. It's not about the statistics of
all this, It's about the specifics.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You're listening to. Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty with mo Kelly on.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And last segment,
I was playing audio from the press conference earlier today
given by LA Mayor Karen Bass, and I wanted to
provide just a little bit of perspective because I know
some people are going to dismiss the stats regarding crime
going down out of hand, and I think that misses
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the point. And I think the Mayor, although her interests
might have been sincere and her intentions might have been sincere,
I think she missed the mark as far as communicating
and relating to Angelino's when it comes to crime, crime
and safety are very personal, very personal. If you've ever
been robbed, if you've ever been victimized, it is a
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very personal experience and violation. And Mayor Bass can sit
at the podium and rattle off every statistic, every program
every change that she's made, and it's not going to
make people feel safer because you're not actually addressing the
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intimacy of how crime and fear of crime unravels p
people and unravels families. If she were to do that,
I humbly submit that the perception of her and the
perception of what she's trying to do would be received differently.
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Because if you have ever walked out of your house,
let's say, and saw that your car had been stolen,
if you've ever come home and noticed that someone has
broken into your house, if you have ever been robbed,
I promise you remember that to this day and those feelings,
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that feeling of being violated never leaves you. And it
doesn't matter what you may say about this statistic or
that statistic. We've hired this person, we're hiring more officers.
That has nothing to do with whether people feel safe.
And if we could ever get to that conversation, then
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we will really address whether people feel safe in LA,
because ultimately it comes down to whether people feel safe.
And I know feelings are anecdotal, but so is safety,
and nobody can tell me I should feel safe.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I have to actually feel it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I have to know that when I walk out in
my neighborhood, there is not only visual evidence, but there's
historical evidence that I am at least relatively safe. And
two days ago I didn't know the stats. Today I
know the stats. Absolutely nothing has changed in my house.
I would tell my wife, do not walk the dogs
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around the block at night. Do not do that sometimes,
not even in broad daylight, because there are homeless people,
and you would be in a vulnerable position if I'm
not there. Even if I were there, I can't in
good conscience recommend you to do that. Why Because I
don't feel it's safe. And that means more than Mayirbath
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saying this.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
LAPD has launched focused initiatives, like the one in MacArthur Park,
which has started to interrupt a cycle of crime, and
just two weeks ago recovered three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of stolen goods. Another major change to Los
Angeles Police Department is welcoming back Jim McDonald as our chief.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He has improved morale. He very clinical, very clinical.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Just talk to me, talk to you, talk to people
who've actually dealt with crime, dealt with the fear connected
to crime. Then we can start having a more honest conversation.
But if you're just going to give me stats and
patch yourself on the back of how we had four
hundred and fifty five murders last year and only four
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hundred and twenty three this year, or whatever the numbers are,
I can't even remember the numbers.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So is it more important to address the collective trauma
that people experience it's from crime.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I just hear these details.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Because it's almost like you are on the outside looking in,
not actually in this with us. You're the mayor in theory,
you're walking the same streets, you are going to the
same grocery stores. You should have the same level of
concerns as I do. And if you don't, then clearly
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you cannot actually deal with the problem because you can't adequately.
I don't want to use a medical term here, but
diagnose or identify what the problem is, because we're just
living in separate worlds, and we shouldn't be living in
separate worlds.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
If you're the mayor of where we live.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
There's something to this because a lot of times, in
justin both what I do, one of the most important
things you can do for someone who's been traumatized is
to join them, and it feels like we're being talked
down to instead of having somebody actually join us in
the trauma and speak to us as if they are
a part of this neighborhoo experiencing it too.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
She's talking about it from the outside exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And stats be damned, that's nice, But that always has
to do with the past. You know, the people who
were murdered last year ain't coming back. The people were
murdered this year ain't coming back. So what that there
were fewer people murdered, So what that there were fewer
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violent acts? You know, So what there was less property crime?
Talk to me like, you know what I have to
deal with. Talk to me that. You know what it's
like to have to make certain decisions about where you're
going to go, where you shouldn't go, and why that is.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Talk to me.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You know what it's like to walk outside your house
and say, ooh, I'm not going to walk the dogs
right now because we got three street lights out, as
opposed to just telling us you might have some street
lights out because of copper theft. Damn I know that,
but do you understand what I am thinking? About when
I step outside of my house in the city of
Los Angeles. It's later with Mo Kelly k if I
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If I am six forty, it'th later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I tell you,
rainy days and Mondays always get me down. Well, it's
not raining, but it is Monday. And I had a real,
real busy weekend. I mean it was really really busy.
You ever have that feeling when you come back to
work on a Monday that you didn't have a weekend,
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and it's like.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, shoot, I gotta go another five days. But it's good,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What was bad was this movie I saw over the
weekend when I did have some free time, and I
have watchers remorse. We all have limited amount of time
that we have to spend, you know, doing what we
wanted to. And I decided to put on this movie
called Electric Slate on Netflix. And it was really really
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publicized and promoted.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And if you're familiar with the.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Russo brothers, they are big deals, real real big deals
in the industry. They directed The Avengers, and Mark Ronner
made allusions to this last week.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I tried to warn you, but you don't listen to
me like you should.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm thinking that I could just go ahead and pop
it in and if you start with low expectations, you'll
finish with a degree of enjoyment because you started with
low expectations, no expectations, no disappointments. That's generally how I
lived my life. I should have turned off the TV
the moment the opening credits started rolling. That and I
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didn't finish it. I only got like forty five to
fifty minutes in. That was probably one of the worst
pieces of defecation I seen since maybe Battlefield Earth.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What did I tell you? What was it Friday when
I came staggering in here? Something like it? It's probably
the stinker of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but I don't believe you about much of anything,
so there's no reason to take your word.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I think we've learned a lesson from this, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you put black olets on your pizza, so you're
questionable to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm not going to let you drag me into that
black olive morass again today. But this movie we finally
agree on this. We agree on this, and it was
so bad. I was watching it last night. I couldn't
finish it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And you ever go to bed angry because you watched
something which wasted the last remnants of your weekend, and
I felt that someone like took money out of my pocket.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I was so angry. Oh, I've been angry ever since
Thursday night when when I saw the first hour of it.
It's like, you think, I'm that stupid that you would
give this thing to me to watch? How dare you
russo brothers? How dare you net? How dare every single
person involved in this? You belong in front of a
tribunal at the Hague. This wasn't just a movie. This
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was a grievous personal insult. The he you should be
pissed about that, the hag not Gigbo. But am on
a plane in Venezuela. I guess that's the thing in
the week that I see what you did there.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But you know, with our luck, the plane will probably
turn around and come back as opposed to not if.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A judge orders it too. But we got to be
on top of the trends here.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We got a lot of topical references in there. Yeah,
that was my weekend and doing some other things. But
you know, it's good to be back with all of you.
Oh and rolling loud yesterday. This weekend was not as
loud as it was in previous years. Maybe they got
the message, maybe they understood that there was some sort
of noise ordinance.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But you can't have four hundred and fifty five decibels
all week and long. So I did not hear it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
From my house, but those who lived in Englewood proper,
they were still complaining, so evidently it was pretty loud.
We're gonna hear from Mayor Karen Bass. She gave out
the crime stats today and says that they are down now.
I'm quite sure there's skepticism all around.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We tend not to believe her government.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I'm gonna see if I can have a different
conversation about our perception of crime. They're gonna do it
at two times. I'm gonna do it at the bottom
of the hour and also at the end of the show.
With my final thought, there's a lot I got to
say about crime, how we deal with it, and how
we should look at it. So we'll definitely talk about that.
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And there's going to be a Starship Troopers remake. Really really,
I was not a fan of the first one. I said.
I just thought it was too campy, too unseable, and
I think I don't think it was true to the
source material, and I think Mark Ronner backs me up
on that at at least as far as tone.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do you understand that it was satire?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I deals understand it was satire and the larger point
it was trying to make. But that movie, the way
it was presented, I don't think it was trying to
make that larger point about h It was satire, just
like RoboCop.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I think the world is starting to catch up
to PAULI Verhoven's sense of satire. There are a lot
of people took it at face value at the time,
and now they're like, oh, he was mocking Americans. How
dare he?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well now that not only are we catching up to
him as a director, America is catching up to his
vision of Detroit and Robocops.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So we see like, oh, that's what he was talking about.
Same thing with Starship Troopers. He was making the same
critiques of you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Mean bugs gonna start lobbing rocks at us that it
has nothing to do with the bugs.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They had nothing to do. I want to know more.
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So all that and more tonight as we kick off
the week, We're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We're gonna learn some things from each other.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're gonna talk about crime, hopefully have a higher caliber
of conversation regarding crime, not just the same platitudes that
we hear from politicians, not just the same complaints that
we hear from the populace like you and someone else,
who have to say everything about crime.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's dang that's out there. Las is just a crime
written city.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But there's there's something in between, something that's been missed,
and we're going to hit it tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Thank goodness, I was not caught up in that snarl
of a traffic jam yesterday in and around all of
Los Angeles thanks to the Los Angeles Marathon. The fortieth
annual had a number of friends running in it, and
I wish them good luck. There's no way in the
world I was going to participate. I know my limitations.
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I have no desire to run more than sixty feet
at a time. That's it. I'd like to stay within
my boundaries. I know exactly what I can and cannot do,
and I've never had any desire to run long distances.
Did a little track back in middle school, in high school.
Did not want to do long distances. It was not
my thing. I'll never understand the motivation to run twenty
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six point two miles, but I will never dismiss it.
I think it's a tremendous accomplishment. In fact, I did
not even know, and maybe you did, but I did
not know that an American had not won the La
Marathon in over thirty years. Match Matt Rickman won the
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marathon yesterday with a time of two hours, seven minutes
and fifty six seconds, and it was three minutes ahead
of the second place finisher. And Rickman's victory he means
he is the first American to win the race since
nineteen ninety four. And for what I see here, the
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two hours, seven minutes and fifty six seconds beat Mark
Ronner's marathon time by three hours, eight minutes and forty
five seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh, I was slow and I'll never do it again.
Either walk much of it or did you at least jog.
I reached a point I think after like mile twelve,
mile fifteen, something like that, where I would start each
mile with a little bit of a walk because it
killed me. And I got to remind you I didn't
train for it. I did it as a prank on yourself.
Clearly sorry you went out there for a second and
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say you did it as a prank on yourself. No,
I did it as a prank because I fancied myself
some sort of low level George Plimpton who would just
go and do things and then write about them, write
funny columns that for some reason, my discomfort and humiliation
were popular with readers. Go figure, there's certain things I'm
just not going to do. Could I do it if
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I trained? Probably not. My hips wouldn't allow it. I
don't know if I could even get up to that point.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur about where I
am in life. Now, other people they can, and they
do a marathon at sixty years old, or first one
at sixty years old or older. I won't be that person. Well,
there's no reason to do it. You have nothing to prove.
Neither do I. There's I think the people who do
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marathons need mental help. They need wow. They need to
talk to a professional who can get them through the
reasons why they feel compelled to do this horrific thing
to themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Sam is our resident psychologists? More psychiatrists? How would you
get psychologists? I can't prescribe medical okay, a resident psychologist.
Have you successfully defended your dissertation yet?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Not yet?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
No, I'm still writing. It's still putting it together. How
many pages I will be a doctor?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay? How many pages is it going to be?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Roughly, I'm guessing it's going to be upwards of about
eighty to ninety pages.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's not bad. I'll think it could be one hundred
and fifty two hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
So yeah, Well, it depends on how deeply I want
to interpret the data. But as far as people running
the marathon goes, i'd ask them, what are you running from?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There? You go? That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because a lot of people will go and have a
lot of personal problems and not want to deal with
those personal problems, and they'll spend all their time training
or spend their time working bearing themselves at work.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
See a lot of disassociative behavior.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, well, not necessarily dissociating, but trying to be able
to distract themselves from whatever they're either running away from
emotionally or afraid of. It depends on what the It
depends on the individual person obviously, But yeah, i'd ask
what are you running from?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Is it your contention doctor, that people who find enjoyment
in marathons or distance running which includes all the training,
that there may be some or a likely underlying, unresolved
issue which is indicative of some sort of mental illness.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I wouldn't say that about everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Some people are doing it maybe as you know, like
they got into it as a way to improve something
about themselves. But there's a lot of people who all
they do is fixate on it and all that. Like,
you can see that there's something missing with them because
they're focusing just on the training and only on that,
and they're letting other avenues of their life completely go
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by the wayside.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Let me flip this and argue it from the other side.
What about the person is saying, look, I'm in the
best health of my life, or at least they think so.
I'm doing something which is not hurting anyone. I'm doing
something which is productive. You can argue on some level
what's wrong with that? Nothing if it doesn't bother a person.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
The thing is, it's the thing that makes something diagnosable clinically,
is if it causes a person distress. If it doesn't
cause that individual distress, it's fine. It's not harming anybody else.
It's not doing anything to harm a single person around them.
It makes them, makes that person feel more emboldened to feel,
it gives them a stronger sense of self.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There's nothing wrong with it at all.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
If they realize that during the training they can't stop running,
they can't stop training, then they may start feeling a
little bit distressed about the whole process.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh so, if anything crosses the line into too obsessive
compulsive behavior, then maybe, oh it has.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
To cause distress.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
If it doesn't cause them distress, I can't make a diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
If I run them out, it would call me cause
me distress. So isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Is it physical or emotional distress?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And trust me, if I'm running a mile right now,
I'm in physical pain and probably hating my life.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So if I were to run a mile, there's something
wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Then emotionally, no, No, A mile is fine if it's
something that's meant, if it's for a purpose, if you're
running for no reason, if you're running because you're pretending
that you're being chased by somebody, or you actually think
you're being chased by.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Someone you know.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Those are there are there can be some psychological issues
that go into that, but really, there's nothing wrong with
people who want to just stay physically fit. It's just
are you intentionally focusing more on your fitness because you're
trying to avoid some psychological mental health crisis something that
deeply put you know, deeply troubling you, but you're doing
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everything you can to distract from it. People bury themselves
in their work, specifically to avoid dealing with their own
mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, get out of my life all right now, now you
hit her too close to home. I've been burying myself
in my work. I'm working all the time, doing stuff
from home, doing stuff from the studio, trying to book
guests and everything. So heart to heart, just tell me
what's wrong with me, Sam, Doctor Sam.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You take a lot of pride in what you do,
and being successful makes you feel good. There's nothing wrong
with that. I don't think anything you're doing right now
causes you distress. I think the rest of the world
around you might be distressed.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're gonna say, now, maybe you should talk to my
wife because her view of me is in stark contrast
with what you had to say.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I'm willing to bet that she has a much more
intimate view of you, which I say, I mean, I've
known you for a few years, but not that deeply.
She gets to see you, know, I guess more of
how the sausages made it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh, I guess, yes. Let me let me put things
into perspective for you. The one time I did a marathon,
it was the Chicago Marathon. I was there was free
beer at the end of the race, after the finish line.
I was so destroyed that I could not drink any
of the free beer ed and I thought, in that moment,
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what have I done? The world is upside down, This
is topsy turvy. This makes no sense to me, and
that's one reason why I'll never do it. How could
you refuse free beer if you are in your right mind.
I don't drink beer except for Dodger games. I don't
drink beer. How could a normal person refuse free beer? Oh?
You know, to catch your breath, to be able to breathe.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I mean, if you're out of breath, then yours you
can barely stand up. Then I can understand passing up
a beer and waiting until you someone at least puts
you in a wheelchair for it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's just a completely unnatural David Blaine thing to do
to yourself. Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
All I know is if the whole process, the activity
might have me lose control of by bowels.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's always that risk. By the way, Okay, it's probably
not for me.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, I don't need to run twenty six miles for
instead of a laxative. Okay, I could just do some
dunkalax and just leave it at that. I don't need
to put my body through that type of hell.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, because as you age, you have less and less
control over pretty much everything. And who wants to roll
those dice in the middle of a crowded ring. No,
and you got to put something in your stomach.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Guy, assume you can't run a marathon on an empty stomach,
can you?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh? No, you need fuel.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
And we've all seen the pictures of people who've had
those moments during marathons, and you can't. I mean, you
feel bad for them. You're not going on a Wheati's box. Really,
you knew what you were getting into. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The person who loses their bowels now has seen the
pictures of other people losing their bowels.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You're not going in like what I didn't know that
could happen? What is happening to me? Why is it
this dribbling stuff is happening behind me? No, you can't
claim igrants. You know you signed up for that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
In fact, you paid money for the privilege of losing
your bowels in front of thousands of people.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I wonder, though you talked a few weeks back about
special diapers for all day concerts, there's gotta be depends
for marathons now right. It seems like it would chaf
well that. Okay, I'm not gonna every mindy. I think
we should move on. We need to start really making
like more ergonomic.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do you think about what they're wearing the diapers? Probably not,
only are they not aero dynamic. It just seemed like
could be a bit cumbersome. Can you run with a load?
I gotta get to the news. So it's not a no.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
It is a no. I did not. But actually, okay,
I'll admit this and then and then we have to go.
And this is all I'm willing to say. I didn't
pack really well before I did the marathon, and I
ran the whole Chicago Marathon with no underwear.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AMS.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I want to spend some time tonight, some real time,
talking about crime, our concept of it, our perception of it,
what we think of it with respect to politicians and
elected officials. We live in an age where we generally,
I will say, generally, if you're not one of these people,
didn't find disregarded, but we generally distrust our elected officials,
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may be on political lines, may be on conspiratorial lines,
we generally distrust our elected officials. Meaning if our preferred
candidate slash party is not in power, we definitely distrust
numbers which come out, And if it's our preferred candidate,
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then we're a little bit more accepting. With that in mind,
I know that if you are not a Democrat, if
you don't support Karen Bass, then probably going to disregard
any type of positive numbers that she may have to
report regarding crime. Unfortunately, that's where we are as a nation,
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and I don't want people to to just sort of
hone in on the numbers.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
This is a little bit more general.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Earlier this morning, Mayor Bass had a press conference talking
about and I'll tell you in advance the improved crime
numbers in the city of Los Angeles. Right now, she's
going to have her say, and then afterward I will
have a say, and I'll also close the show tonight
with my final thought on crime. As the final say
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here is Mayor Bass.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
My job as your mayor is to keep the city safe.
And we are here today to talk about the twenty
twenty four crime data which reports that both homicides and
violent crime are down in Los Angeles. Now, we certainly
understand that if you have been a victim of crime,
are knows someone who's been a victim of crime, these
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statistics do not necessarily represent your experience.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'll agree with her there.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
If you've been a victim of crime or know someone
who's been a victim of crime, your perception of the
crime statistics is going to be different. But here's the
problem with that, or I should say, the reality of that.
I'm guessing just about everybody knows someone who's a victim
of crime in the past couple of years, be it
a catalytic converter, stolen, be it some sort of theft, burglary, robbery, looting.
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We know somebody right, so our view is going to
be somewhat stw So I will agree with her on that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Any crime is unacceptable to us. And we know that
everyone standing here today knows that we must continue to
approach this issue with urgency and precision. Over the last
two years, we've made key improvements and a comprehensive approach
to public safety. Our recruitment of people who want to
be officers are up. We have attracted record numbers of
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applicants to join the department. However, we are still struggling
with the hiring process.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is crime a function of having more police officers.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Or not?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now I've talked about Metro and how it needs to
have its own dedicated law enforcement arm who can actually
patrol the trains, but I'm saying and platforms, what have you.
But more generally, is it just having more police, more
law enforcement presence or is it something else.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We've decreased street encampments by ten percent, and what that
means is is that that's a decrease in police calls.
It's also a decrease in crime that can be associated
with encampments. We've launched effective task forces like the Organized
Retail Task Force, which has led to hundreds of arrests
and millions of dollars in stolen goods recovered. Smashing grabs declined.
(21:01):
The Heavy Metal Task Force has made more than one
hundred arrests and recovered thousands of cop thousands of pounds
of copper wire. If you wonder why your street lights
are out, many chances it's because of copper wire theft.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
A lot of the street lights in my neighborhood are
out because of copper wire theft, and a lot of
the fire hydrants have been ventalyzed as well, rendering them
inoperable on certain occasions, and obviously against the backdrop of
the fires. That is a cause for concern. But the
(21:37):
question is as far as crime. If I walk outside today,
do I walk outside thinking that, well, crime is down
whatever number. Let's say murders are down ten percent. Do
you feel ten percent safer? Does that thought actually go
through your mind? Do you feel as if because the
(21:59):
stats say one thing, that you will also feel a
certain way or is crime about what happened in the
past and not a predictor of the future. I think
it's that And just because we had fewer murders in
twenty twenty four doesn't mean that we're on a trajectory
where we'll have fewer murders in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't walk outside and say.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Hey, Sam, I feel ten percent safer today because crime
is down ten percent. That thought has never crossed my mind.
My head is always on a swivel. I'm always concerned
about my surroundings and people who might be surrounding me.
I'm always careful about where I drive and who might
be able to see me, whether I'm making myself more vulnerable.
(22:41):
That has nothing to do with crime stats. And I
don't look to the mayor per se as the person
who's going to make me feel safer.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Am I wrong in that regard, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I feel like the mayor shouldn't necessarily be the one
to give you that feeling. Although when you get those numbers,
it's nice knowing that. Individual people, though, however, are gonna
have their own feelings of safety based off of what
location they're at at what time.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And there's something else here is part of the civics lesson.
Mayor bass is talking about murders within the parameters and
boundaries of La City. And we know crime doesn't have
any respect for boundaries. Here's what I mean. I live
in the city of Los Angeles, unincorporated, but still is
(23:29):
the city of Los Angeles. I can listen to these
crime stats, and I can also tell you, as I
border Inglewood that I don't feel any differently, especially when
I know about the murder of Juan Sanchez, who was
trying to as a good samaritan stop the catalytic converter
(23:50):
theft and he ended up murdered for it. So you
can tell me whatever you want as it relates to statistics,
My reality is just because you're giving me La city statistics,
my parameters of safety don't have such boundaries.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not gonna say, hey, i'm.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Standing in LA right now, I'm ten percent stafer if
I as opposed to standing in Inglewood, which is one
street over. And that's a part of the bigger conversation
about crime and safety. It doesn't matter to me what
the stats say inside of the city of La. It
matters to me and I assume everyone else how we
(24:30):
feel in a general sense. And I know feelings are
not facts, but it's how we have to position ourselves
when we think about safety. In other words, if I'm
going to walk my dogs around the block, everything has
to do with how I feel about my safety. I'm
not looking at the LA Times website and say, hmm,
let's see how many dog walkers have been shot this year.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, I'm not looking to see how safe it is.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it on the citizen app to see how much
crime there will use two days ago or in two
blocks away. It is completely about my assessment of the
immediate surroundings. Going back to the street light in Copper Wire,
I see three street lights out, I'm less likely to
go walking. Why because that probably makes me more of
(25:17):
a target and the crime stats have nothing to do
with that.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
LAPD has launched focused initiatives, like the one in MacArthur Park,
which has started to interrupt a cycle of crime, and
just two weeks ago recovered three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of stolen goods. Another major change to Los
Angeles Police Department is welcoming back Jim McDonald as our chief.
(25:42):
He has improved morale, He has committed to growing the
department and enhancing relationships with communities across the city. So
I also want to acknowledge the community leaders that are
here today because this happens together, so we know that
in order to actually make La safer, we need a
comprehensive approach, suppressing crime when it happens and working hard
(26:06):
to prevent crime from taking place to begin with.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I don't disagree with any of that, and I'll talk
more about that with my remarks at the end of
the show. I wish personally that it was less of
a speech and presentation, and she just talked to us
as people who are concerned with our everyday safety right
where we are, not the number of murders, not the
(26:34):
number of thefts. And I know politically this is about
changing the conversation, moving it away from the fires, moving
it away from the recall. I get the politics of it.
I'm just talking about the personal connection that I wish
our political leaders had with people like you and me.
When I go to the store, What is on my mind?
What am I concerned with when I'm going to get gas.
(26:56):
We talked about that. When I get on the Metro,
it's not how many people were murdered. It has to
do with understanding that I'm concerned about my wellbeing, my
wife's well being. I'm concerned about anyone in a who
is in my sphere of concern, and if I could
get that from our political leaders, I would be more
(27:18):
inclined to buy in. It's not about the statistics of
all this, It's about the specifics.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You're listening to. Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty with mo Kelly on.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And last segment,
I was playing audio from the press conference earlier today
given by LA Mayor Karen Bass, and I wanted to
provide just a little bit of perspective because I know
some people are going to dismiss the stats regarding crime
going down out of hand, and I think that misses
(28:03):
the point. And I think the Mayor, although her interests
might have been sincere and her intentions might have been sincere,
I think she missed the mark as far as communicating
and relating to Angelino's when it comes to crime, crime
and safety are very personal, very personal. If you've ever
been robbed, if you've ever been victimized, it is a
(28:27):
very personal experience and violation. And Mayor Bass can sit
at the podium and rattle off every statistic, every program
every change that she's made, and it's not going to
make people feel safer because you're not actually addressing the
(28:52):
intimacy of how crime and fear of crime unravels p
people and unravels families. If she were to do that,
I humbly submit that the perception of her and the
perception of what she's trying to do would be received differently.
(29:13):
Because if you have ever walked out of your house,
let's say, and saw that your car had been stolen,
if you've ever come home and noticed that someone has
broken into your house, if you have ever been robbed,
I promise you remember that to this day and those feelings,
(29:36):
that feeling of being violated never leaves you. And it
doesn't matter what you may say about this statistic or
that statistic. We've hired this person, we're hiring more officers.
That has nothing to do with whether people feel safe.
And if we could ever get to that conversation, then
(29:57):
we will really address whether people feel safe in LA,
because ultimately it comes down to whether people feel safe.
And I know feelings are anecdotal, but so is safety,
and nobody can tell me I should feel safe.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I have to actually feel it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I have to know that when I walk out in
my neighborhood, there is not only visual evidence, but there's
historical evidence that I am at least relatively safe. And
two days ago I didn't know the stats. Today I
know the stats. Absolutely nothing has changed in my house.
I would tell my wife, do not walk the dogs
(30:38):
around the block at night. Do not do that sometimes,
not even in broad daylight, because there are homeless people,
and you would be in a vulnerable position if I'm
not there. Even if I were there, I can't in
good conscience recommend you to do that. Why Because I
don't feel it's safe. And that means more than Mayirbath
(31:02):
saying this.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
LAPD has launched focused initiatives, like the one in MacArthur Park,
which has started to interrupt a cycle of crime, and
just two weeks ago recovered three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of stolen goods. Another major change to Los
Angeles Police Department is welcoming back Jim McDonald as our chief.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He has improved morale. He very clinical, very clinical.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Just talk to me, talk to you, talk to people
who've actually dealt with crime, dealt with the fear connected
to crime. Then we can start having a more honest conversation.
But if you're just going to give me stats and
patch yourself on the back of how we had four
hundred and fifty five murders last year and only four
(31:50):
hundred and twenty three this year, or whatever the numbers are,
I can't even remember the numbers.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So is it more important to address the collective trauma
that people experience it's from crime.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I just hear these details.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Because it's almost like you are on the outside looking in,
not actually in this with us. You're the mayor in theory,
you're walking the same streets, you are going to the
same grocery stores. You should have the same level of
concerns as I do. And if you don't, then clearly
(32:25):
you cannot actually deal with the problem because you can't adequately.
I don't want to use a medical term here, but
diagnose or identify what the problem is, because we're just
living in separate worlds, and we shouldn't be living in
separate worlds.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
If you're the mayor of where we live.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
There's something to this because a lot of times, in
justin both what I do, one of the most important
things you can do for someone who's been traumatized is
to join them, and it feels like we're being talked
down to instead of having somebody actually join us in
the trauma and speak to us as if they are
a part of this neighborhoo experiencing it too.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
She's talking about it from the outside exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And stats be damned, that's nice, But that always has
to do with the past. You know, the people who
were murdered last year ain't coming back. The people were
murdered this year ain't coming back. So what that there
were fewer people murdered, So what that there were fewer
(33:24):
violent acts? You know, So what there was less property crime?
Talk to me like, you know what I have to
deal with. Talk to me that. You know what it's
like to have to make certain decisions about where you're
going to go, where you shouldn't go, and why that is.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Talk to me.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You know what it's like to walk outside your house
and say, ooh, I'm not going to walk the dogs
right now because we got three street lights out, as
opposed to just telling us you might have some street
lights out because of copper theft. Damn I know that,
but do you understand what I am thinking? About when
I step outside of my house in the city of
Los Angeles. It's later with Mo Kelly k if I
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