March 27, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in “The Viral Load” with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything the TikTok ‘Chubby’ filter used to fat-shame others, to the latest phenomenon is sweeping the nation; ‘Earlybirds Club’ parties…PLUS – Thoughts on the failure of “cancel culture” to prevent Mel Gibson from shooting “The Resurrection of Christ” this summer – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's social media.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Facebook, it's xt, TikTok, raid.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Viral load, viral load, the viral load, lady, if I
am six forty, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That's right, it's time for Tiffany Hobbs and the viral Load. Yes,
it is the very first story. Mo is one that
is upsetting. And it's not just upsetting to me. I
think for a lot of our listeners it will be
upsetting to hear about because it involves fat shaming. And
he might be saying, what is fat shaming? Well, it's
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a type of body shaming or critique of a person's
shape based on their weight. And you hear the first
part of it, the word fat, which then talks about
or implies someone being overweight. At least that's the perception
of the people using this new app.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And this app is called the Chubby Filter. It's less Yeah,
it's less of an actual app and more of an
addition to the TikTok app. And so what it is
is you go on social media, and with social media,
you have a lot of apps available to you to
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change your appearance. You can do things like slim yourself down,
maybe give yourself more hair, remove hair, whatever it is
you want to do. There's all sorts of body modification apps. Well,
this one works in reverse. It actually adds weight to
the user. And it's the Chubby filter. It is a
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generative AI tool that is from the editing app cap Cut.
People use it and then upload themselves to TikTok. You
take a picture of yourself, you run it through this
filter and it tacks on forty fifty one hundred pounds
and you get to see what you would look like
at a heavier weight. Now, as innocuous as this may seem,
(02:26):
it has been used in harmful ways. And what's happening
online is that people aren't just using it and looking
at themselves and imagining what they could look like if
they're heavier. No, of course not. This is social media
and the best thing about social media for some people
is to make fun of others, and that's what people
are doing with this app. They're taking themselves the or
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running themselves through the filter. They're producing a heavier picture
or version of themselves, and then they joke that they
should stop eating so much, or they use the new
picture to motivate themselves to get in the gym and
get their summer body ready. But it's all at the
expense again of people who are in fact heavier or overweight,
(03:13):
and the population of people who say, you know, I
am overweight. They're really offended by this because people are
taking this filter and they're essentially poking fun at what
people are really dealing with in reality.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know about reality, but I just don't see
the whole allure of using a filter to make yourself fatter,
and how that's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It shouldn't be. And here's the thing again. You can
imagine yourself through AI with a new haircut, with the
new body soyle, there's all these applications and modifications that
you can partake in. But when you use something that
is generative AI like this, you make yourself heavier, and
then you use it to admonish, to poke fun at,
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to punch. Don't want to say down at, but to
punch at people who are heavier. It's offensive and when
people speak out about it, you shouldn't be surprised. So
you have a whole group of people who are enjoying
this app, thinking it's fun. They're posting their pictures and
then they're going viral, and then you have the backlash
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that's going viral as well, with people saying, no, not
cool at all, you should take this down. There's actually
another app that's floating around as well that has to
do with down syndrome, and a lot of people have
been using this app and they've been running their other
pictures through it, the producing a picture of themselves imagining
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that they have down syndrome and posting it online for
likes and shares, and it is just cruel and it's
going viralng The Internet reveals I would say, the best
and the worst of humanity. For the second story, this
story is a lot more heartwarming than the first. It's
(05:03):
a little funny too. When you are getting ready to
have a baby, or if you're like me, you're getting
ready to get another dog, hopefully in the future one day,
what comes to mind is what are you gonna name it?
What are you gonna name it? Parents go through this.
It is a big source of conversation, what are you
gonna name your kid? And then what is that name
going to produce? If you name a kid something that
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is powerful? Will your kid be powerful? If you name
your kid something that is different than that? What kind
of child will you have? That question is going viral,
And there's one mom who especially went viral because she
gave her son an outdoorsy name. But she says he's
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been anything but go for it stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Do you ever regret what you named your kid?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
That would be me. Not only did uh, I regret it.
We just changed his name when he was eighteen months old.
So here's a story. When I was pregnant with my
second I thought, Wow, my eldest son outdoorsy boy, my
husband outdoorsy boy.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Surely this child will have the soul.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Of like a river rafting toury ride. So when we
were looking for names, I went into Pinterest and I
typed in outdoorsy boy baby names, and we settled on
the name Aspen because that's a cool name.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And it is a super cool name for someone else.
Because my boy.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
He gets carsick in the Chick fil a drive through,
he gags at the thought of a blueberry, and his
first birthday he lost his ever loving mind when his
toe touched his cake. He loves air conditioning and sitting
down and at six years old, loves being held by
his mom still constantly. And whereas most kids have like
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a stuffed animal or a blanket that they've really enjoyed
their whole life, he has a comfort mole, this one
right here on her chest, and.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Uh, we'll just love on it. But he is such,
he's just a little light. He's just the sweetest little boy.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So he chose a name that means light, which is Luke.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And he may never a guide river rafting tours, but
he will for sure be in a very comfortable location
being just as sweet as he can be.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And I love him so much. That's the voice of
Jen Hamilton. She is a labor and delivery nurse talking
about her son formerly named Aspen, and now his name
is Luke, which means light.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, the kid was originally named Aspen. Yes, and for
that you should get your asso there.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, name everyone named aspin listening is very upset with
you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's okay, take it out in your mama. Okay, that
was her mistake. Look, my name is Morris. Okay, and
I'm still mad about that. Okay, fair is fair, I
know of what I speak. But the kid was named something,
and then she changed the child's name midstream.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well not full yes, kind of it was. He was
a toddler, so he didn't know his name.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It doesn't matter. Did she changed the child's name based
on his personality?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, then that is what is going Viralala.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did you get a chance to change your name? I
don't think so. Stephan did you get a chance to
change your name to I know that answer. He didn't
get a chance to change his name because he and
I had this conversation all the time. Mark Ronner, did
you ever get a chance to change your name? I
would have changed it to Morris. True story. When I
was growing up, there was a point where I was
I think it was maybe four or five years old.
(08:43):
I told my mother just called me Steve. No. My
point is got I would have been ridiculed less in
my mind, and I know asked. But if he would
have grown up with that name, he would have gotten
his ass whooped. So might as well take it out
on mom. Hen, there you go, ask woo. And now
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he's Luke, which means light. And that's what's going viral.
What do you do about a name that doesn't fit
your child?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you change it? Do you keep it? If you're mow,
you change it to Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, no, no, that's what I did. That's why I
started going by my middle name, William or will Or
got shortened to Moe. But Morris. See, back in the day,
it was Morris to kat the commercials it was. There
was a book called Morris the Moose Goes to School.
And then in my ten years it was Morris day
in the time, and then not until I got to
be like twenty five thirty, did this handsome actor come
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along called Morris Chestnut. And then all of a sudden
the name was great, but it was too late for me.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, you know what, it's not too late for How
about this later on Steve Kelly. In the next segment,
we're going to talk about who the hell Steve Steve Kelly,
Oh my goodness, Steve Kelly.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Later the show is not Later with Morris Kelly.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Later with Steve O. Kelly, we're going to talk about
McDonald's why they're going.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Back If I am six forty live everywhere, the iHeartRadio
app mark your half black Man? Where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Mcdo I don't remember better?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh, come on, every black person knows who That comes
from d Murphy. There we go.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
That's from one of the concert videos. Yes, delirious maybe raw? Okay,
well I get the two mixed up by only half passed.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Now it's tuning my room, Timpany live on Campies Lisa
Win mo Oky.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
She'll talk about the time. Kiss Han social media l
Timpany huts can I. It's Later with Moe Kelly. Not
to be confused with Steve. If you're listening last segment,
you know what I mean. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Take it away, Tiffany, what was your alternative name?
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Brought up?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
No, you're Steve.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wanted to go by Steve. It just ha does
a nice ring to it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You try to clown me.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now, I would never do that, Steve. Back to me, Steve. Okay, Steve,
here we go, So have you? Steve? Are you listening
when you?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Stephan? Go ahead and turn off for Mike at anytime?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Don't you dare?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Don't you dare? What's wrong? I can't hear you? Tiffany,
Steve yellow light? Maybe look over here. Maybe you'll be
able to catch it in my mic quite turn off,
yell louder.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
When you were younger, Steve, Okay, I'll stop. When you
were younger? Did you ever have your birthday party at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
McDonalds, McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I did, and it was my tenth birthday and I
found a five dollars bill under the slide and I
thought I had made it. It was the best birthday ever.
Core memory, unlocked five dollar bill. This story isn't about
me finding a five dollar bill as much as it
is about you spending nine hundred and ninety dollars. Should
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you choose to have a birthday party for your child
at McDonald's Now, nine hundred and ninety dollars is steep?
Sounds steep.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's like the play area.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's the play area, and I'll get to what it included.
But McDonald's has a social media feed, They have a
social media manager, and they posted a post that left
lots of people confused. The post was shared on March twentieth,
just a few days ago, and it promoted the return
of their popular McDonald's children's Birthday party. It was detailed
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in the ad that for nine hundred and ninety dollars,
you can give your child or children quote the best
party of their life. Now I can say I had
a great one when I was ten. It was far
below nine hundred and ninety dollars. However, McDonald's made a mistake.
They didn't mean to post that ad, and they quickly
(13:15):
deleted that ad from March twentieth because someone caught the mistake.
And what it was is that for nine hundred and
ninety dollars, parents caregivers could get a party package that
included games, activities, two hours of party time in the
playplace with that tubing, ten happy meals, and ten vanilla
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ice cream cones, assuming their ice cream machine was operable. Now,
if you do the math, ten happy meals, ten ice
cream cones, a couple of games, two hours of party time,
you're really looking at a little under two hundred dollars,
not nine hundred and ninety dollars. So this post was up.
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Parents were confused, people were saying the math is not mathing,
and that's when McDonald's took it down. But they had
already gone viral. And what was found out is that
they posted nine hundred and ninety dollars, but they didn't
mean nine hundred and ninety US. They meant nine hundred
and ninety in another country's denomination, and they went viral
(14:25):
even though they made a mistake, and now they're having
nine hundred and ninety dollars. What they were saying is
that it was for a Caribbean nation, and that that
Caribbean nation's currency was actually if you convert it to
US dollars closer to that way.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They've done this, Mone no way.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, Mone yes, Steve Ma oh stop fuck, guess some
mitdonas she'd go, I got dollar. Yes. So McDonald's is
in the news for going viral off of a mistaken
and now viral post surprise surprise for our final story.
(15:04):
There is a phenomenon, at least that's what they say.
That is phenomenon which is sweeping the world. This is
for all of you women, specifically who are of a
certain age nor the forty, maybe in your fifties, maybe
in your sixties and up. There are new parties called
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early Birds parties. They're Early Birds club parties, and they
aim to provide a space for women in their later
ages to dress up and have fun without the pressures
and anxieties younger women put on themselves in the club scene.
It's a place that's being said that will allow middle
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aged women to party within reason. Here's what the reason includes.
Doors open at six pm and they close around ten pm.
I hate that you're all aughing.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I just heard reason that killed me, But it is
kind of true because if I don't leave the house
by seven o'clock, I'm not leaving. You're done.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You're lucky I'm here right now. And then also the
music will be nostalgic hits from the eighties, nineties and
early two thousands. And here's the kicker. This is completely
women only. There are no men allowed, because these women
in the Early Birds club at this party scene say,
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men just complicate things. They make things a lot less fun,
put a lot of pressure on the scene.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh the gay club, don't try to dress it up
with all this stuff. If it's a party where only
women are allowed, call it.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
From six to ten, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Twenty twenty five, all right, just be you, But but
don't try to be stupid and try to lie to us.
If you have a club where it's only women, okay,
it's away.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
I'm to us.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Of you, Steve. Look, I've been I've been to a
gay slash lesbian club when I was working in music industry.
I know what it's like. All right, So when you're
trying to say this only for women, it.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
Is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You're saying, this is a front for a different type
of lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Got that right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's not being marketed. Is that it is being marketed
of course, as again a place Hey, Mark, middle aged
women enjoy themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Mark, let's call ourselves middle aged. For the sake of
this conversation. If we had a party that we set
up which is only four men between six and ten pm,
with the exception of a fight party, what would you
think that was that we're going to dressed up for? Okay, careful,
you gotta turn on your mic. I don't understand how
(17:44):
it goes. Sorry, I was multitasking. You know we're on
the radio, right, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
So's so there's no way I'm going to give you
a completely honest answer to anything that you're answer. But
you understand when i'm getting a right tell me what
you're getting at mo, Steve, that's what we're getting that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
As long as it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So it's rain and then I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
There is something to this about the older demographic wanting
to do stuff earlier. When I was in grad school,
for a period of time, I worked at a video
store and old men would come in and rent porn
VHS's in the morning. But that's not the worst part.
They would return them later in the morning. Maybe they
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were done with them. Well yes, yes, and when they
forgot to rewind them, you could tell pretty much exactly
when they were done with them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh that's heartwarming, I know, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
That's the end of the viral load. I got nothing else.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We have a Mel Gibson
update when we come back. What you got so no,
I was gonna say, But regardless of whether it's a
gay club, female club, male club, at the end of
the night, everyone is doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Oh I'll stop.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I guess some medona gonna get some MG done. Mcdub
was that raw or delivery? It was raw, you guys, Yeah,
it was wrong.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
If I AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, you're.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
With Mo Kelly one k six Live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app and I often talk about the idea of
cancel culture. In fact, I'll talk about it again in
my Final Thought next segment. I talk about it as
an idea because I really don't think it's real. Talked
(19:53):
about Mel Gibson last night with the prospect or Possibility
coming on the show. As far as what questions you
ask someone, what's questions shouldn't you ask someone? And I say, hey,
you know, you should talk about whatever is relevant to
the conversation and you shouldn't shy away from anything. Mel
Gibson is a person who is very open and honest
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about his beliefs, as religious beliefs, as political beliefs. He's
working on the recall Karen Bass, excuse me, recall Gavin
Newsom campaign. He is very active in a political sense now.
And I'm actually all for that, if only because I
believe an artists be it, actor, musician, entertainer, athlete expressing
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themselves because not only are there are professions, they're also Americans.
They are also people. They have families, they have beliefs
which usually supersede their professional careers. I am okay with
all of that. Mel Gibson has had some personal issues
in previous years, which is a part of his larger story,
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and part of his larger story is also connected to
the art in which he creates. He did Passion on
the Christ, and now it's been announced that he's going
to be doing it's actually been confirmed that he's moving
forward on the Resurrection of the Christ, which would be
the sequel to Passion on the Christ more than twenty
years later. Listen to what Mel Gibson had to say.
(21:25):
This was a few months ago when he was on
with Joe Rogan specifically talking about this.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
When you put something like that together, how do you
choose who's going to be the next Jesus?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
You use him again, Cavizl. Yeah, I know it's twenty
years later. It's twenty years later, but yeah, but story guy, Yeah,
but it's it's supposed to be three days later, but
he got twenty years older.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And I think.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
I have to use a few techniques that they've started
to get really good.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
With the CGI and yeah, oh they can do amazing
things now.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You can actually, yeah, get some of the same people
and by.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
The time you film it'll be even better. Yeah, when
are you going to start filming.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm hoping.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Next year.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Sometimes there's a lot required because it is I'll just
tell you this, it's an acid trip.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
When we wrote it, it is. Huh. I don't think
of the Resurrection of Christ being akin to an acid trip,
but hey, hey, it's not my movie.
Speaker 11 (22:26):
When we wrote it, it is like I've never read
anything like it. And my brother and I and Randall
all sort of congregated on this. So there's some good
heads put together, but there's some crazy stuff. And I
think in order to really tell the story properly, you
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have to start with the fall of the Angels, right, yeah,
which is you're in another place, You're in another realm.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
He's not wrong, but he seems kind of out there.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
Yeah, which is you're in another place, you're in another realm.
You know, you need to go to Hell, you need
to go to Shield.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
So you're gonna have Hell, You're gonna have Satan all that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
WHOA sure? You right? You gotta have his origin? How
do you reper it?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
How do you depict that?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I never thought of Jesus having a superhero origin story,
but that's basically what they're talking about.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
This is a good question, and I think.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I have ideas about how to do that. Sounds like
concepts of a plan. That's just me.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
I have ideas about how to do that, and ideas
about how to evoke things and emotions in people from
the way you depict it and the way you shoot it.
So I've been thinking about it for a long time.
So it's it's it's not going to be, and it's
going to require a lot of planning, and I'm not
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wholly sure I can pull it off, to tell you
the truth, it's really super ambitious, but I'll take a
crack at it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Here is my real point, because I want to talk
about this within the construct of Cancel culture and also
race swapping of characters. I bet you there will not
be a mumbling word said about Jim cavisl playing someone
from the Middle East as Jesus in twenty twenty five,
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and the people who love Mel Gibson the most were
probably the loudest in opposition to Anthony Mackie playing Captain America,
who is a fictitious character and is actually part of
the source material. I'm just saying, I realize these things
are happening in the same time in space. I think
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of myself as differ than most people. I'm cool with both.
I don't care about either because I personally don't get
caught up in that. But I love pointing it out
because we're in a time where all this is so
very damn important. Jim Covisil is going to be playing
Jesus again. How do I know this because Mel Gibson
said so, and no one's going to say anything. And
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if you happen to know anything about Mesopotamia or Egypt
or the people from the region of that time, it's
not Jim Covisil, Okay. So if we want to talk
about historical accuracy, that's fine. Just know that this is
not that. And I'm not trying to give mel Gibson
a hard time. I'm just highlighting the point that people
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always want to have it both ways. They want to
get mad at Disney and saying snow White is supposed
to be this fictional character, you know, but you can't
have a half white, half Latina actors playing snow White,
but Jim Covill Jesus. That's fine. You can't have it
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both ways. Actually, when I talk about this in my
final thought, I'm good with both, and I'll tell you why.
I'm just pointing out that we need to pick one
or the other. It just can't be both.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Before we get out of here, I kind of tipped
off what my final thought would be. But I was thinking,
I've been thinking about this for the better part of
a couple weeks, and I hadn't been able to really
put my or stream my words together. I think I'm
there now, but it's weird to me how we always
wanted to have it both ways. I'm all about consistency
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and principle, but we want to have it both ways.
We don't want politics and sports, but expect teams to
visit the White House and take pictures with the President,
and are fine with the president showing up to wrestling
matches UFC, the Daytona five hundred and the Super just
for an example. We want to have it both ways.
We supposedly don't want entertainers talking politics, but we elect
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a TV game show host as president twice. We complain
about the supposed cancel culture, but we also never miss
a chance to root for the failure of every Disney
movie review bombing and boycotting because we think Disney movies
are quote unquote two woke. It's weird to me, and
that's the only word I can think of. Strange, weird, whatever,
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it's weird. How snow White supposedly shouldn't be played by
a half Latina, half Polish woman, but Noah can be
played by an Australian Russell Krowe remember that, I do
nobody said a mumbling word, I mean outside of me.
Christian Bale can play Moses. Joel Edgerton can play Ramses,
the Egyptian Pharaoh. Remember all the outrage over those roles
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of portrayals. That's okay, neither do I. It's strange how
we complain about music artists and their politics, that is,
unless we agree with them. We mentioned Snoop Dogg earlier
in the show. It works both ways. He received all
sorts of backlash for performing at the second Trump inauguration.
This was after him calling black artists who performed at
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the first Trump inauguration sellouts. Now many in the African
American community want to call Snoop the sellout for performing
at a Trump inauguration. We are a weird bunch. We're
fine with artists, entertainers, sports figures espousing their politics just
(28:35):
as long as we agree with them. People will complain
when racist are swapped, supposedly because it's not true to
the source material when it becomes to Disney movies or
superhero movies. But then those same people I'm talking about,
the very same people also complaining when Captain America is
played by a black man slash the falcon, which is
literally in that the source material. Y'all America, confuse me?
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You want it both ways all the time. Earlier in
the show, I told you about how Mel Gibson is
set to begin production on the sequel to the Passion
of the Christ, appropriately titled The Resurrection of the Christ.
Gibson a lightning rot at times, from his previous domestic
issues to its prominent political involvement in California politics. Right now,
right now, he's making his art to express his religious
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and political views, and there will be zero complaints and
entertainers who should keep their mouths shut when it comes
to politics. It's strange because those complaints won't be levy
at him, and I'm actually good with that. I am
a Christian. I am fine with someone making a movie
about Christ. I am fine with any and all artists
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espousing their religious views their political views through their art.
But it's strange how we get uptight about that because
I have to ask the question, is Mel Gibson any
different than Baldwin, who we also covered tonight. Are there
really any different other than their specific brand of politics?
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They both have had some questionable personal episodes over the years.
Right can we agree on that? Right? They're very vocal
in their political beliefs, and both engage in art commonly
which prominently features their beliefs and politics. Either we are
okay with actors, musicians, actors, and dare I say, even
entertainment companies engaging in free expression or we aren't. Are
(30:33):
we really going to try to argue that Rachel Ziegler
is not accurate to portray snow White but Jim cavizl
as Jesus is? Are we really going to try to
make that argument? Boycott Disney but support Mel?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
No?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
If it's about the principle, you can't have it both ways.
If you want the freedom of artists to express themselves,
then they will expressed themselves. And now you could either
support or not support. But you can't say one is
right and the other's wrong, not if you're trying to
stand on principle. Let me go further with this, let
me go back to politics and art. You think, since
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we talk about movies all the time, you think Rocky
four with Rocky beating Ivan Drago of the Soviet Union
during the height of the Cold War in the real
world was not a political statement. You think the complete
Bob Dylan music catalog wasn't a political statement. Stevie Wonder
and Paul McCartney's Ebony and Ivy that was a political
(31:35):
statement too. I'm here to tell you you didn't know
that it actually was. Marvin Gay, Bob Marley. Art in
all of its various forms, has always been a political
form of expression. Maybe you just weren't paying attention. Hey, Mark, Ronald,
did you know? I know you knew. We're not just
going to put this in here anyway. Star Trek was
a political statement about achieving a post racial, post capitalism society.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
They just said it in the future and in space.
If you didn't see that, didn't understand the thing you watched.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
The first interracial kiss in television history was where Mark
runner kirkanu Hura All in the Family was a political
statement on race relations. Even the Cosby Show was a
political statement. I bet you didn't know that. It was
specifically done to fight against the negative stereotypes of African Americans,
showing a complete black family unit with two professional parents
with postgraduate degrees, and people criticized it as being quote
(32:26):
unquote unrealistic. But that's part of the reason why Bill
Cosby did that show. You ever watched Blue Bloods, Oh,
that's definitely a show with political undertones. By the way,
it's a great show, but there's definitely a political bent
to it. Same is true with Law and Order, just
in the other direction. Both of them are great shows,
by the way. But art, as in music, television, movies,
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they have always been expressions of our individual and collective politics.
And you know what, it's okay, but it's not okay
to suggest that here in the twenty twenties that artists
are entertainers need to not express their individual views or
not create art expressing those views, because to do so,
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in a word, is an American For KF, I am
six forty, I'm mo Kelly, no.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Need to keep it and refresh.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
We got this k FI and kost HD two Los Angeles,
Orange County, live everywhere on the Younger radio app
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's social media.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Facebook, it's xt, TikTok, raid.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Viral load, viral load, the viral load, lady, if I
am six forty, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That's right, it's time for Tiffany Hobbs and the viral Load. Yes,
it is the very first story. Mo is one that
is upsetting. And it's not just upsetting to me. I
think for a lot of our listeners it will be
upsetting to hear about because it involves fat shaming. And
he might be saying, what is fat shaming? Well, it's
(01:01):
a type of body shaming or critique of a person's
shape based on their weight. And you hear the first
part of it, the word fat, which then talks about
or implies someone being overweight. At least that's the perception
of the people using this new app.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And this app is called the Chubby Filter. It's less Yeah,
it's less of an actual app and more of an
addition to the TikTok app. And so what it is
is you go on social media, and with social media,
you have a lot of apps available to you to
(01:42):
change your appearance. You can do things like slim yourself down,
maybe give yourself more hair, remove hair, whatever it is
you want to do. There's all sorts of body modification apps. Well,
this one works in reverse. It actually adds weight to
the user. And it's the Chubby filter. It is a
(02:02):
generative AI tool that is from the editing app cap Cut.
People use it and then upload themselves to TikTok. You
take a picture of yourself, you run it through this
filter and it tacks on forty fifty one hundred pounds
and you get to see what you would look like
at a heavier weight. Now, as innocuous as this may seem,
(02:26):
it has been used in harmful ways. And what's happening
online is that people aren't just using it and looking
at themselves and imagining what they could look like if
they're heavier. No, of course not. This is social media
and the best thing about social media for some people
is to make fun of others, and that's what people
are doing with this app. They're taking themselves the or
(02:48):
running themselves through the filter. They're producing a heavier picture
or version of themselves, and then they joke that they
should stop eating so much, or they use the new
picture to motivate themselves to get in the gym and
get their summer body ready. But it's all at the
expense again of people who are in fact heavier or overweight,
(03:13):
and the population of people who say, you know, I
am overweight. They're really offended by this because people are
taking this filter and they're essentially poking fun at what
people are really dealing with in reality.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know about reality, but I just don't see
the whole allure of using a filter to make yourself fatter,
and how that's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It shouldn't be. And here's the thing again. You can
imagine yourself through AI with a new haircut, with the
new body soyle, there's all these applications and modifications that
you can partake in. But when you use something that
is generative AI like this, you make yourself heavier, and
then you use it to admonish, to poke fun at,
(03:58):
to punch. Don't want to say down at, but to
punch at people who are heavier. It's offensive and when
people speak out about it, you shouldn't be surprised. So
you have a whole group of people who are enjoying
this app, thinking it's fun. They're posting their pictures and
then they're going viral, and then you have the backlash
(04:19):
that's going viral as well, with people saying, no, not
cool at all, you should take this down. There's actually
another app that's floating around as well that has to
do with down syndrome, and a lot of people have
been using this app and they've been running their other
pictures through it, the producing a picture of themselves imagining
(04:41):
that they have down syndrome and posting it online for
likes and shares, and it is just cruel and it's
going viralng The Internet reveals I would say, the best
and the worst of humanity. For the second story, this
story is a lot more heartwarming than the first. It's
(05:03):
a little funny too. When you are getting ready to
have a baby, or if you're like me, you're getting
ready to get another dog, hopefully in the future one day,
what comes to mind is what are you gonna name it?
What are you gonna name it? Parents go through this.
It is a big source of conversation, what are you
gonna name your kid? And then what is that name
going to produce? If you name a kid something that
(05:25):
is powerful? Will your kid be powerful? If you name
your kid something that is different than that? What kind
of child will you have? That question is going viral,
And there's one mom who especially went viral because she
gave her son an outdoorsy name. But she says he's
(05:45):
been anything but go for it stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Do you ever regret what you named your kid?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
That would be me. Not only did uh, I regret it.
We just changed his name when he was eighteen months old.
So here's a story. When I was pregnant with my
second I thought, Wow, my eldest son outdoorsy boy, my
husband outdoorsy boy.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Surely this child will have the soul.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Of like a river rafting toury ride. So when we
were looking for names, I went into Pinterest and I
typed in outdoorsy boy baby names, and we settled on
the name Aspen because that's a cool name.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And it is a super cool name for someone else.
Because my boy.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
He gets carsick in the Chick fil a drive through,
he gags at the thought of a blueberry, and his
first birthday he lost his ever loving mind when his
toe touched his cake. He loves air conditioning and sitting
down and at six years old, loves being held by
his mom still constantly. And whereas most kids have like
(06:56):
a stuffed animal or a blanket that they've really enjoyed
their whole life, he has a comfort mole, this one
right here on her chest, and.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Uh, we'll just love on it. But he is such,
he's just a little light. He's just the sweetest little boy.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So he chose a name that means light, which is Luke.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And he may never a guide river rafting tours, but
he will for sure be in a very comfortable location
being just as sweet as he can be.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And I love him so much. That's the voice of
Jen Hamilton. She is a labor and delivery nurse talking
about her son formerly named Aspen, and now his name
is Luke, which means light.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, the kid was originally named Aspen. Yes, and for
that you should get your asso there.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, name everyone named aspin listening is very upset with
you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's okay, take it out in your mama. Okay, that
was her mistake. Look, my name is Morris. Okay, and
I'm still mad about that. Okay, fair is fair, I
know of what I speak. But the kid was named something,
and then she changed the child's name midstream.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well not full yes, kind of it was. He was
a toddler, so he didn't know his name.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It doesn't matter. Did she changed the child's name based
on his personality?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, then that is what is going Viralala.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did you get a chance to change your name? I
don't think so. Stephan did you get a chance to
change your name to I know that answer. He didn't
get a chance to change his name because he and
I had this conversation all the time. Mark Ronner, did
you ever get a chance to change your name? I
would have changed it to Morris. True story. When I
was growing up, there was a point where I was
I think it was maybe four or five years old.
(08:43):
I told my mother just called me Steve. No. My
point is got I would have been ridiculed less in
my mind, and I know asked. But if he would
have grown up with that name, he would have gotten
his ass whooped. So might as well take it out
on mom. Hen, there you go, ask woo. And now
(09:03):
he's Luke, which means light. And that's what's going viral.
What do you do about a name that doesn't fit
your child?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you change it? Do you keep it? If you're mow,
you change it to Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, no, no, that's what I did. That's why I
started going by my middle name, William or will Or
got shortened to Moe. But Morris. See, back in the day,
it was Morris to kat the commercials it was. There
was a book called Morris the Moose Goes to School.
And then in my ten years it was Morris day
in the time, and then not until I got to
be like twenty five thirty, did this handsome actor come
(09:36):
along called Morris Chestnut. And then all of a sudden
the name was great, but it was too late for me.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, you know what, it's not too late for How
about this later on Steve Kelly. In the next segment,
we're going to talk about who the hell Steve Steve Kelly,
Oh my goodness, Steve Kelly.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Later the show is not Later with Morris Kelly.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Later with Steve O. Kelly, we're going to talk about
McDonald's why they're going.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Back If I am six forty live everywhere, the iHeartRadio
app mark your half black Man? Where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Mcdo I don't remember better?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh, come on, every black person knows who That comes
from d Murphy. There we go.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
That's from one of the concert videos. Yes, delirious maybe raw? Okay,
well I get the two mixed up by only half passed.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Now it's tuning my room, Timpany live on Campies Lisa
Win mo Oky.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
She'll talk about the time. Kiss Han social media l
Timpany huts can I. It's Later with Moe Kelly. Not
to be confused with Steve. If you're listening last segment,
you know what I mean. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Take it away, Tiffany, what was your alternative name?
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Brought up?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
No, you're Steve.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wanted to go by Steve. It just ha does
a nice ring to it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You try to clown me.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now, I would never do that, Steve. Back to me, Steve. Okay, Steve,
here we go, So have you? Steve? Are you listening
when you?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Stephan? Go ahead and turn off for Mike at anytime?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Don't you dare?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Don't you dare? What's wrong? I can't hear you? Tiffany,
Steve yellow light? Maybe look over here. Maybe you'll be
able to catch it in my mic quite turn off,
yell louder.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
When you were younger, Steve, Okay, I'll stop. When you
were younger? Did you ever have your birthday party at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
McDonalds, McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I did, and it was my tenth birthday and I
found a five dollars bill under the slide and I
thought I had made it. It was the best birthday ever.
Core memory, unlocked five dollar bill. This story isn't about
me finding a five dollar bill as much as it
is about you spending nine hundred and ninety dollars. Should
(12:17):
you choose to have a birthday party for your child
at McDonald's Now, nine hundred and ninety dollars is steep?
Sounds steep.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's like the play area.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's the play area, and I'll get to what it included.
But McDonald's has a social media feed, They have a
social media manager, and they posted a post that left
lots of people confused. The post was shared on March twentieth,
just a few days ago, and it promoted the return
of their popular McDonald's children's Birthday party. It was detailed
(12:52):
in the ad that for nine hundred and ninety dollars,
you can give your child or children quote the best
party of their life. Now I can say I had
a great one when I was ten. It was far
below nine hundred and ninety dollars. However, McDonald's made a mistake.
They didn't mean to post that ad, and they quickly
(13:15):
deleted that ad from March twentieth because someone caught the mistake.
And what it was is that for nine hundred and
ninety dollars, parents caregivers could get a party package that
included games, activities, two hours of party time in the
playplace with that tubing, ten happy meals, and ten vanilla
(13:38):
ice cream cones, assuming their ice cream machine was operable. Now,
if you do the math, ten happy meals, ten ice
cream cones, a couple of games, two hours of party time,
you're really looking at a little under two hundred dollars,
not nine hundred and ninety dollars. So this post was up.
(13:59):
Parents were confused, people were saying the math is not mathing,
and that's when McDonald's took it down. But they had
already gone viral. And what was found out is that
they posted nine hundred and ninety dollars, but they didn't
mean nine hundred and ninety US. They meant nine hundred
and ninety in another country's denomination, and they went viral
(14:25):
even though they made a mistake, and now they're having
nine hundred and ninety dollars. What they were saying is
that it was for a Caribbean nation, and that that
Caribbean nation's currency was actually if you convert it to
US dollars closer to that way.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They've done this, Mone no way.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, Mone yes, Steve Ma oh stop fuck, guess some
mitdonas she'd go, I got dollar. Yes. So McDonald's is
in the news for going viral off of a mistaken
and now viral post surprise surprise for our final story.
(15:04):
There is a phenomenon, at least that's what they say.
That is phenomenon which is sweeping the world. This is
for all of you women, specifically who are of a
certain age nor the forty, maybe in your fifties, maybe
in your sixties and up. There are new parties called
(15:25):
early Birds parties. They're Early Birds club parties, and they
aim to provide a space for women in their later
ages to dress up and have fun without the pressures
and anxieties younger women put on themselves in the club scene.
It's a place that's being said that will allow middle
(15:46):
aged women to party within reason. Here's what the reason includes.
Doors open at six pm and they close around ten pm.
I hate that you're all aughing.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I just heard reason that killed me, But it is
kind of true because if I don't leave the house
by seven o'clock, I'm not leaving. You're done.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You're lucky I'm here right now. And then also the
music will be nostalgic hits from the eighties, nineties and
early two thousands. And here's the kicker. This is completely
women only. There are no men allowed, because these women
in the Early Birds club at this party scene say,
(16:35):
men just complicate things. They make things a lot less fun,
put a lot of pressure on the scene.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh the gay club, don't try to dress it up
with all this stuff. If it's a party where only
women are allowed, call it.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
From six to ten, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Twenty twenty five, all right, just be you, But but
don't try to be stupid and try to lie to us.
If you have a club where it's only women, okay,
it's away.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
I'm to us.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Of you, Steve. Look, I've been I've been to a
gay slash lesbian club when I was working in music industry.
I know what it's like. All right, So when you're
trying to say this only for women, it.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
Is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You're saying, this is a front for a different type
of lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Got that right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's not being marketed. Is that it is being marketed
of course, as again a place Hey, Mark, middle aged
women enjoy themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Mark, let's call ourselves middle aged. For the sake of
this conversation. If we had a party that we set
up which is only four men between six and ten pm,
with the exception of a fight party, what would you
think that was that we're going to dressed up for? Okay, careful,
you gotta turn on your mic. I don't understand how
(17:44):
it goes. Sorry, I was multitasking. You know we're on
the radio, right, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
So's so there's no way I'm going to give you
a completely honest answer to anything that you're answer. But
you understand when i'm getting a right tell me what
you're getting at mo, Steve, that's what we're getting that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
As long as it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So it's rain and then I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
There is something to this about the older demographic wanting
to do stuff earlier. When I was in grad school,
for a period of time, I worked at a video
store and old men would come in and rent porn
VHS's in the morning. But that's not the worst part.
They would return them later in the morning. Maybe they
(18:40):
were done with them. Well yes, yes, and when they
forgot to rewind them, you could tell pretty much exactly
when they were done with them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh that's heartwarming, I know, or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
That's the end of the viral load. I got nothing else.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We have a Mel Gibson
update when we come back. What you got so no,
I was gonna say, But regardless of whether it's a
gay club, female club, male club, at the end of
the night, everyone is doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Oh I'll stop.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I guess some medona gonna get some MG done. Mcdub
was that raw or delivery? It was raw, you guys, Yeah,
it was wrong.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
If I AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, you're.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
With Mo Kelly one k six Live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app and I often talk about the idea of
cancel culture. In fact, I'll talk about it again in
my Final Thought next segment. I talk about it as
an idea because I really don't think it's real. Talked
(19:53):
about Mel Gibson last night with the prospect or Possibility
coming on the show. As far as what questions you
ask someone, what's questions shouldn't you ask someone? And I say, hey,
you know, you should talk about whatever is relevant to
the conversation and you shouldn't shy away from anything. Mel
Gibson is a person who is very open and honest
(20:16):
about his beliefs, as religious beliefs, as political beliefs. He's
working on the recall Karen Bass, excuse me, recall Gavin
Newsom campaign. He is very active in a political sense now.
And I'm actually all for that, if only because I
believe an artists be it, actor, musician, entertainer, athlete expressing
(20:39):
themselves because not only are there are professions, they're also Americans.
They are also people. They have families, they have beliefs
which usually supersede their professional careers. I am okay with
all of that. Mel Gibson has had some personal issues
in previous years, which is a part of his larger story,
(21:01):
and part of his larger story is also connected to
the art in which he creates. He did Passion on
the Christ, and now it's been announced that he's going
to be doing it's actually been confirmed that he's moving
forward on the Resurrection of the Christ, which would be
the sequel to Passion on the Christ more than twenty
years later. Listen to what Mel Gibson had to say.
(21:25):
This was a few months ago when he was on
with Joe Rogan specifically talking about this.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
When you put something like that together, how do you
choose who's going to be the next Jesus?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
You use him again, Cavizl. Yeah, I know it's twenty
years later. It's twenty years later, but yeah, but story guy, Yeah,
but it's it's supposed to be three days later, but
he got twenty years older.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And I think.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
I have to use a few techniques that they've started
to get really good.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
With the CGI and yeah, oh they can do amazing
things now.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You can actually, yeah, get some of the same people
and by.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
The time you film it'll be even better. Yeah, when
are you going to start filming.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm hoping.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Next year.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Sometimes there's a lot required because it is I'll just
tell you this, it's an acid trip.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
When we wrote it, it is. Huh. I don't think
of the Resurrection of Christ being akin to an acid trip,
but hey, hey, it's not my movie.
Speaker 11 (22:26):
When we wrote it, it is like I've never read
anything like it. And my brother and I and Randall
all sort of congregated on this. So there's some good
heads put together, but there's some crazy stuff. And I
think in order to really tell the story properly, you
(22:49):
have to start with the fall of the Angels, right, yeah,
which is you're in another place, You're in another realm.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
He's not wrong, but he seems kind of out there.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
Yeah, which is you're in another place, you're in another realm.
You know, you need to go to Hell, you need
to go to Shield.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
So you're gonna have Hell, You're gonna have Satan all that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
WHOA sure? You right? You gotta have his origin? How
do you reper it?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
How do you depict that?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I never thought of Jesus having a superhero origin story,
but that's basically what they're talking about.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
This is a good question, and I think.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I have ideas about how to do that. Sounds like
concepts of a plan. That's just me.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
I have ideas about how to do that, and ideas
about how to evoke things and emotions in people from
the way you depict it and the way you shoot it.
So I've been thinking about it for a long time.
So it's it's it's not going to be, and it's
going to require a lot of planning, and I'm not
(24:07):
wholly sure I can pull it off, to tell you
the truth, it's really super ambitious, but I'll take a
crack at it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Here is my real point, because I want to talk
about this within the construct of Cancel culture and also
race swapping of characters. I bet you there will not
be a mumbling word said about Jim cavisl playing someone
from the Middle East as Jesus in twenty twenty five,
(24:36):
and the people who love Mel Gibson the most were
probably the loudest in opposition to Anthony Mackie playing Captain America,
who is a fictitious character and is actually part of
the source material. I'm just saying, I realize these things
are happening in the same time in space. I think
(24:59):
of myself as differ than most people. I'm cool with both.
I don't care about either because I personally don't get
caught up in that. But I love pointing it out
because we're in a time where all this is so
very damn important. Jim Covisil is going to be playing
Jesus again. How do I know this because Mel Gibson
said so, and no one's going to say anything. And
(25:22):
if you happen to know anything about Mesopotamia or Egypt
or the people from the region of that time, it's
not Jim Covisil, Okay. So if we want to talk
about historical accuracy, that's fine. Just know that this is
not that. And I'm not trying to give mel Gibson
a hard time. I'm just highlighting the point that people
(25:43):
always want to have it both ways. They want to
get mad at Disney and saying snow White is supposed
to be this fictional character, you know, but you can't
have a half white, half Latina actors playing snow White,
but Jim Covill Jesus. That's fine. You can't have it
(26:04):
both ways. Actually, when I talk about this in my
final thought, I'm good with both, and I'll tell you why.
I'm just pointing out that we need to pick one
or the other. It just can't be both.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (26:23):
Before we get out of here, I kind of tipped
off what my final thought would be. But I was thinking,
I've been thinking about this for the better part of
a couple weeks, and I hadn't been able to really
put my or stream my words together. I think I'm
there now, but it's weird to me how we always
wanted to have it both ways. I'm all about consistency
(26:44):
and principle, but we want to have it both ways.
We don't want politics and sports, but expect teams to
visit the White House and take pictures with the President,
and are fine with the president showing up to wrestling
matches UFC, the Daytona five hundred and the Super just
for an example. We want to have it both ways.
We supposedly don't want entertainers talking politics, but we elect
(27:08):
a TV game show host as president twice. We complain
about the supposed cancel culture, but we also never miss
a chance to root for the failure of every Disney
movie review bombing and boycotting because we think Disney movies
are quote unquote two woke. It's weird to me, and
that's the only word I can think of. Strange, weird, whatever,
(27:29):
it's weird. How snow White supposedly shouldn't be played by
a half Latina, half Polish woman, but Noah can be
played by an Australian Russell Krowe remember that, I do
nobody said a mumbling word, I mean outside of me.
Christian Bale can play Moses. Joel Edgerton can play Ramses,
the Egyptian Pharaoh. Remember all the outrage over those roles
(27:53):
of portrayals. That's okay, neither do I. It's strange how
we complain about music artists and their politics, that is,
unless we agree with them. We mentioned Snoop Dogg earlier
in the show. It works both ways. He received all
sorts of backlash for performing at the second Trump inauguration.
This was after him calling black artists who performed at
(28:14):
the first Trump inauguration sellouts. Now many in the African
American community want to call Snoop the sellout for performing
at a Trump inauguration. We are a weird bunch. We're
fine with artists, entertainers, sports figures espousing their politics just
(28:35):
as long as we agree with them. People will complain
when racist are swapped, supposedly because it's not true to
the source material when it becomes to Disney movies or
superhero movies. But then those same people I'm talking about,
the very same people also complaining when Captain America is
played by a black man slash the falcon, which is
literally in that the source material. Y'all America, confuse me?
(29:01):
You want it both ways all the time. Earlier in
the show, I told you about how Mel Gibson is
set to begin production on the sequel to the Passion
of the Christ, appropriately titled The Resurrection of the Christ.
Gibson a lightning rot at times, from his previous domestic
issues to its prominent political involvement in California politics. Right now,
right now, he's making his art to express his religious
(29:25):
and political views, and there will be zero complaints and
entertainers who should keep their mouths shut when it comes
to politics. It's strange because those complaints won't be levy
at him, and I'm actually good with that. I am
a Christian. I am fine with someone making a movie
about Christ. I am fine with any and all artists
(29:48):
espousing their religious views their political views through their art.
But it's strange how we get uptight about that because
I have to ask the question, is Mel Gibson any
different than Baldwin, who we also covered tonight. Are there
really any different other than their specific brand of politics?
(30:08):
They both have had some questionable personal episodes over the years.
Right can we agree on that? Right? They're very vocal
in their political beliefs, and both engage in art commonly
which prominently features their beliefs and politics. Either we are
okay with actors, musicians, actors, and dare I say, even
entertainment companies engaging in free expression or we aren't. Are
(30:33):
we really going to try to argue that Rachel Ziegler
is not accurate to portray snow White but Jim cavizl
as Jesus is? Are we really going to try to
make that argument? Boycott Disney but support Mel?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
No?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
If it's about the principle, you can't have it both ways.
If you want the freedom of artists to express themselves,
then they will expressed themselves. And now you could either
support or not support. But you can't say one is
right and the other's wrong, not if you're trying to
stand on principle. Let me go further with this, let
me go back to politics and art. You think, since
(31:12):
we talk about movies all the time, you think Rocky
four with Rocky beating Ivan Drago of the Soviet Union
during the height of the Cold War in the real
world was not a political statement. You think the complete
Bob Dylan music catalog wasn't a political statement. Stevie Wonder
and Paul McCartney's Ebony and Ivy that was a political
(31:35):
statement too. I'm here to tell you you didn't know
that it actually was. Marvin Gay, Bob Marley. Art in
all of its various forms, has always been a political
form of expression. Maybe you just weren't paying attention. Hey, Mark, Ronald,
did you know? I know you knew. We're not just
going to put this in here anyway. Star Trek was
a political statement about achieving a post racial, post capitalism society.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
They just said it in the future and in space.
If you didn't see that, didn't understand the thing you watched.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
The first interracial kiss in television history was where Mark
runner kirkanu Hura All in the Family was a political
statement on race relations. Even the Cosby Show was a
political statement. I bet you didn't know that. It was
specifically done to fight against the negative stereotypes of African Americans,
showing a complete black family unit with two professional parents
with postgraduate degrees, and people criticized it as being quote
(32:26):
unquote unrealistic. But that's part of the reason why Bill
Cosby did that show. You ever watched Blue Bloods, Oh,
that's definitely a show with political undertones. By the way,
it's a great show, but there's definitely a political bent
to it. Same is true with Law and Order, just
in the other direction. Both of them are great shows,
by the way. But art, as in music, television, movies,
(32:48):
they have always been expressions of our individual and collective politics.
And you know what, it's okay, but it's not okay
to suggest that here in the twenty twenties that artists
are entertainers need to not express their individual views or
not create art expressing those views, because to do so,
(33:09):
in a word, is an American For KF, I am
six forty, I'm mo Kelly, no.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
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