December 19, 2024 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from a period product that recently went viral on TikTok, to a popular TikTok account that purposely uploads fake content and MORE…PLUS – A breakdown of “the truth behind cable TV appearances” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's now time for the Viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yes, it is good evening everyone. Well, last night Moe
covered quite a few viral stories. This week has been
nothing short of exciting and busy when it comes to
viral stories. However, our very first story doesn't deal with TikTok,
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doesn't deal with Instagram or Facebook. No, we're going more
old school in the sense that this story actually comes
from hacking into your cell phone.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What's the newest scam.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, it's viral because it's being talked about everywhere and
kfi's own Rich Demurro, our tech guru, actually spoke about
it on his show this previous Saturday. This new scam
taps into your cell phone. Yes, and many of us,
if not all of us, have some sort of cellular device.
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In this case, your cell phone does not have to
be a smartphone. It just has to be equipped to
receive text messages.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So it's pretty basic stuff here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What's happening, Well, scammers have created a new way to
separate you from your money, as they always do, especially
at the holidays. And this specific scam deals with saying
that you have parked illegally in a school zone. You
may have never even been to the school that's alleged
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where you parked illegally. You might not even travel in
that direction, but the scammers have been able to text
you and let you know that you are possibly going
to receive a hefty ticket because you parked illegally in
this school zone. So the details are that the text
is sent to your phone and it goes on to
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describe being from an official sounding website has all the
markers of being again official, which of course can be
quite intimidating, and the text and the website include the
following information. It says that there are claims of speeding
in school zones or other offenses that you don't remember.
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There's another part that says that there is pressure to
pay immediately to avoid fees or legal trouble. If you
click on this link that is attached in your text message,
it's an active link. You'll be prompted to enter your
payment information to somehow mitigate this fine that you're now receiving,
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and that you'll then be contacted in a way so
that they can collect and funnel funds to this criminal enterprise. Again,
the newest viral scam.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Is always like, you gotta do it now, Well, there's
gonna be some sort of consequence.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hurry up, hurry up, hurry.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Up, hurry up and pay.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, that's usually a sign that it's illegitimate.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But unfortunately, as is the case with situations like this
and scams that are on cell phones, they prey upon
people who may not be media literate, and people do
fall victim to these scams. So make sure if you
are receiving any sort of link that says anything about
a ticket that you are being fined for parking illegally
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in a school zone or any zone for that matter,
do not click any links. That's just a rule of thumb,
whether in social media or on your cell phone and
your text messages. The next story, this one deals very
much with biology. And last night again when I was
listening to Later with mo Kelly, you guys talked about
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the pit diaper. Yes, sir, well, the pit diaper is
marketed mostly to men, mostly with nothing, But this story
is more so apropos for women, biological women, women who
are still menstruating for that matter. All Right, let's get
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into the nitty gritty. Well, it all started on TikTok
when a young lady shared a video while at a concert.
She was at a concert and she says, hey, thank
you to the woman who in the bathroom gave me
this sanitary napkin during an emergency.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That I was having.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
She says, thank you so much, and also, why didn't
you warn me?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Huh huh?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
What would you need a warning about? Well, this was
no ordinary sanitary napkin, and I imagine half of your
listeners right now are probably kind of plugging their ears
because of the ick factor. But let's grow up here.
It wasn't an ordinary sanitary napkin. No, it's something called
a honey pot pad.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Is that the same thing as a pot pie?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
For some? In this case?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Maybe because the young lady who received this honey pot
pad went on to post her thank yous to this
anonymous woman in the bathroom who shared it with her
during an emergency at this concert.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
But again the woman says, why didn't you warn me?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
She goes on to say that this honey pot pad
gave her all sorts of interesting sensations. And because of
this video, which has now gone viral on TikTok to
the tune of multiple millions of viewers and engagements. People
are having conversations about what this is and whether or
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not it's actually something that women should use, and the
internet is divided. Half of the people who have used
it say it's amazing, it's great. It's infused with oils
and lavenders and aloe and all these things that it
creates a quote cooling sensation.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'm a dude, Okay, I've never used one before. I
need you to really really break it down down.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, you know, in this case, this particular pad lines
the underwear of a user to protect them.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Just like the pit.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, I get that paper might do, okay, but what's
special about this past.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, this one, unlike the pit diaper mo has again
an infusion of different ingredients like mint, lavender, and alo Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
It's herbally infused. It's fancy. It's fancy pants, all right.
Trying to make tea down there?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Am I supposed to be like? I don't know what
I'm supposed to do with that. It's like, am I
gonna throw it in the oven? But if I'm gonna
boil it? Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Some of the users say that they in fact were
boiling and that it was very uncomfortable because of what
these herbs actually did to their nether regions. Again, the
Internet is divided on this newest viral conversation, and experts
have in and said, while this is fun and kind
of the you know, the moment, it's having a moment,
this honeypad, do not use it because it actually messes
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with your biological stuff down there. You don't need to
make pH balance your pH balance. You don't need all
these herbs and and things down there.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Just be, you know, kind of go back to the
old school stuff. So maybe the pit diaper will be
lined with aloe and minto lavender soon enough.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
No, no, no, no, We're going to have Mark try it out.
He'll let us know, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So we can always line it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We can line it with like, I don't know, hot
sauce or something.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
When we come out, we'll have part two of the
Viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs KFI AM six forty Live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Tiffany Hobbs Viral Low Part two. Here we will mo
during your show. You have a tendency to stand up
and stretch.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yes, sure do. Why do you do that?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Keep the blood and keep my energy moving. Sitting is
unhealthy for long periods of time.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Makes perfect sense, and when we think about traveling, specifically
with flying longer flights, people are advised to stand up
and stretch their legs during to get that blood circulating
and to prevent things like clotting and other health issues.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
A man last week shared footage on TikTok. His name
is Richard Dwong, and the video on TikTok is of
a female passenger standing for the majority of a seven
hour flight. Doctor Dwong captioned the recording quote, lady stood
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on my flight for the entire seven hour duration watching
her movie.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The clip shows the woman on her feet as the
plane takes off and taxis or you know, in the
air at it's cruising altitude, not taxing, and the Wong
does clarify in the comments that this woman would eventually
take her seat when the seat belt sign was turned on,
but that for the majority of the flight.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Which was relatively smooth.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
The woman stood, and of course, as he uploaded this,
it invited all sorts of conversation because Dwong's intention for
uploading this video was to essentially criticize or question why
this person, this passenger would stand for seven hours. Well,
the Internet, of course wide in and a lot of
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people gave various responses to this now viral clip. One
response was she could have and a clotting disorder. Another says,
I stand so that I can stretch a lot because
I have a clouding disorder. Another goes on to say
I have massive back issues. I totally get it. Another
person goes on to say, hey, I have a broken tailbone.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Totally understand.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And lastly, one person said I have fibromyalgia, and I
would have to stand for the majority of a flight
because otherwise I'm in agony.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Now my hips can't stand sitting for hours on end.
I've got to stand up. There are times where I'll
like I'll go home or coming into work today, I'm
spending an hour plus in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I won't sit down for a while. I just can't.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You can't and you shouldn't because it's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The point of me, including This is again to say
that you never know when you'll be on the receiving
end of someone's viral clip. You spoke about this earlier
in the show. You never know when someone is there
ready to record you and put you onto social media
and to catapult you to this fame. You don't ask
for this notoriety. This woman didn't ask to be videoed.
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She was standing for whatever reason, but now she is
the subject of a viral video and a lot of
conversation about why she was standing on a flight, which
is totally her own business.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
If she was not encroaching upon someone's space. I don't
see what the issue is. I just don't I just
don't get it. And then to be shamed standing shaped
is something else you know? I don't know about doctor Dwong,
But that's uncool, totally uncool.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Another story that is extremely uncool has to deal with
poor media literacy. Again, I spoke about this a bit
earlier in the segment. It is imperative that we all
avail ourselves to what is accurate and what is inaccurate
online and be able to decipher again between the two
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based off our knowledge of how to find out in
fact check what's real and what's not. Social media prays
upon our our inability to decipher. It just unloads content
and you are left to kind of pick up the
pieces and figure out what's going on. Well, there's a
popular TikTok account that purposely uploads fake content that people
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assume is real, and then people go on and share
this content. This t talk creator has built an entire
platform on uploading fake stories, fake news, if you will,
their sixty second fictional posts that intentionally spread false and
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sensational information. And every month at least one of this
TikTok user's posts go viral.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And that's despite being fake.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Some more fake than others, but all of them again
not accurate.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Here's an example.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This post was uploaded by this TikTok creator and it
said this post that ended up going viral. That is
a complete falsity quote. The New York ceo who had
his Lamborghini pooped in by his employees after he canceled
their Christmas bonuses has just learned that they have all resigned. Literally,
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every employee from the sales staff to the shipping department
emailed in their resignation to the CEO at the same time.
End quote that is a completely made up.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Fake story.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Went viral.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It went viral, completely viral because people don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You forgot one thing. Sure, a lot of people don't care, don't.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Care, and the more sensational, the more viral it seems
to go. Just like the woman standing up on the flight,
there's no reason anyone should really be bothering her and
questioning why she's doing it, and it certainly shouldn't go viral,
but it did. This person, this TikTok account again deliberately
uploads content to fool people, and people either don't care
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or don't take the time to fact check, and his
posts then are circulated throughout the world millions of times
over and he does not go back and then say, hey,
that's a fake. So be careful what you share people,
fact check, crosscheck if you're interested, and make sure that
before you press share or send on a story or
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a piece of content, you find out if it is.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
True or not.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
The key phrase and all that was media literacy. And
when we come back, I'm going to tell you about
what goes on behind the scenes when you're watching your
favorite cable news program. I put news in quotation marks
you wonder why you see a lot of the same
people every single day. I'm going to tell you exactly
why you do and the money involved.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And I am fortunate enough or blessed enough, however you
want to describe it. I am fortunate, blessed, lucky, whatever
to be able to say. I've done a lot of
TV work in a commentary sense. A question I often
get is, well, how did you get on? Well, I
earn my way, And I can say that confidently because
there are a lot of people who pay their way
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to get on cable television if you are or even
local news like I've donean MSNBC, CNN, Fox eleven, NBC obviously, Spectrum,
and a bunch of other stations and networks. And every
single time I had to earn my way on either
I pitched myself or someone saw a clip and I
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was recommended to them. But I didn't pay my way
on MO What are you talking about? There are a
lot of people in this business who will hire television publicists,
and they will pay big money because they have a
relationship with a television network, A cable network or a
booker of a specific show to gain favor and get
you as a client on this show. They'll pay big money.
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And it's a racket in many instances where you will
pay a publicist and that publicist will either pay a host,
pay a show, or pay a show booker to have
their client on. And these publicists usually get paid by
the a pair, arrants, or any type of gig that
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they can secure for their client. I know this for
a fact. How do I know, because the publicists have
contacted me offering to pay me to have people on
this show.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I even have the emails.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I had to politely inform them, Oh, that's plug all,
that's illegal, we don't do that. But I know how
the business works. I'm talking about this because there's a
story which wrote today. You may know Congresswoman Nancy Makes,
Republican from South Carolina, and the FEC filings Federal Election
Commission filings, meaning that this money came from her campaign funds.
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The FEC filings show that this campaign season, Nancy may
spent one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars for the
sole purpose of getting on cable news. One hundred and
sixty five thousand dollars where she basically was paying her
way on different cable networks. Why would they do this
to raise their national profile maybe eventually run for governor, senator,
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president one day. You know about Nancy Mace in large
part because you would see here on cable news just
about every damn day. From February twenty third to October
twenty fourth, Mace made eight payments totally one hundred and
sixty five thousand, ranging from seventy five excuse me, seventy
five hundred to thirty thousand dollars a piece to Driver
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eight Media for quote unquote media consulting and Driver eight Media.
Their job is getting their clients on cable news. It's
not illegal, but it's definitely quid pro quo pay for play.
I've never had to pay for any appearance that I've
had on TV. And if you don't know what's going
on behind the scenes, here's how you can break it down.
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If you see someone they're introduced as like for example,
if you watch CNN, you'll see someone like Scott Jennings
and the introduce him as CNN contributor. That means he's
being paid to be on there. He's not paying to
be on there. If you see a random guest talking
about a specific issue that you've probably never seen before
and you'll never see again, that's probably a legitimate guest
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because it's issue specific and they and their producer needed
to find someone who is, I don't know, an oceographer
or something like that, or knew something about underwater basket
weaving because they're having a specific segment on underwater basket weaving.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But if you.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
See someone who's getting on rather frequently and has really
no specific expertise, usually a congress person who's trying to
develop their profile, you can bet dollars to donuts that
they've hired a media consultancy who has a relationship with
that network, with that show, and they're basically buying their
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way on. That's how it works, and there are people
like me who get on their merits. Yes, I'm putting
my packing myself on the back because it's really really
hard to get on TV. It's really hard, and I'm
just talking about getting on and getting on for free.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
In other words, they're not paying me.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I've done it at least one hundred appearances on CNN
and CNN and International never receive one dime from them,
But they called me because I was good enough to
handle the political subjects.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's how the business works.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Most people, most publicists are getting paid by the appearance
that they can secure. So when you see that Nancy
makes paid one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars, she
wasn't paying that as just a retainer and hopefully these
the Driver eight Media will get her on a show
here or there. No, she's basically paying for the successful
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procurement of placement on these shows.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
If you get if she gets placed on a show,
she'll pay Let's say, in general, I think it's like
maybe five dollars in appearance that these clients will pay
to get on a Fox News or an MSNBC or
so forth. It's all a racket. Is all a racket.
And if someone's introduced as a contributor, that means the
network is paying that person to appear. If it's someone
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who's like me, just a regular talking head, and they
say coming up now or you know now to give
us more information. Is mister mo Keller you know him
as host of Later with mo'kelly on KFI AM six forty.
That's probably a legitimate guess because they're not associated with
the network. And if you only see me like once
every three or four weeks, okay, I'm probably not paying
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to get on because it wouldn't be financially advantageous. But
if you see someone on there two or three times
a week, like a congressman Byron Donald's or a Jerry Connelly,
you may see him on MSNBC or Donald's on every network.
They probably have a media consultancy where they're paying this
place to get place on these shows, and there's usually
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a kickback system. If I'm a booker for a show,
let's just say, Rachel Maddow, just pick your show out
of the air, and I'm paying Tiffany Hobbs's media company
to get me placed on that. I will probably pay
her let's say five hundred dollars for every time she'd
get me placed on the show, and she'll use a
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portion of that because we did this in the music
industry for radio stations, and she would use a portion
of that to kick down to the producer. You do
this for me, I'll do this for you. I book
your person. Here's two hundred and fifty dollars each time
you get them on. Here's another two hundred and fifty dollars.
Everyone's happy. The client gets on the news, the booker
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gets a little extra in their pocket, and the publicist
gets paid and their media profile also grows.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Does that then delegitimize the news? Anythink about it?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, it's one.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's not the news, it's cable news, which is the
opinion and editorial not actual news dissemination that Mark Ronnerd
does is a who, what, where, when, why and how?
And when you have like show like Rachel Matto or
Jesse Waters, they're given their opinions, they're editorializing about whatever
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stories they want to talk about, but they are not
in any way given the news.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And anyone tells you otherwise is media illiterate?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Going back to what you were saying last segment, those
aren't news channels. The reason why cable is different from
broadcast news is broadcast news like two four seven, NBCNBC,
they're governed by the FCC. They're using the public's airwaves.
That's why it's free. Cable news is a private signal.
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You are opting in. You are a cable news subscriber.
You are, and cable news is no different than Comedy Central.
What I mean by that is you can have profanity
and nudity on HBO, and you can have all sorts
of profanity on Comedy Central. Because it's cable, you're opting in.
You can't do the same things on broadcast news or
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broadcast television stations. So that's why I'm very particular when
people talk about, oh, you know, the news is biased.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Do you know what news is? Do you know what
news is not?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
And if you want to tell me that, well, MSNBC
is biased news. Okay, you don't know what you're talking
about it. That's how it's created. Its opinion and editorial.
Fox News is opinion and editorial. CNN Domestic is opinion
and editorial. Now, CNN has eighty eight bureaus around the world,
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including CNN International, and those are news. In other words,
if you go to another country, you are CNN. You're
not getting the junk that you're seeing on CNN Domestic.
You're getting the actual news without opinion and editorial. They're
just giving it to you straight. What CNN Domestic does.
People think of CNN as only what they see on
their TV here. Now that's like a small portion of
their business. Fox News doesn't have any international bureaus. CNN
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has bureaus around the world. Why you have reporters and
journalists representing CNN around the world, and you'll never get
that with Fox. People don't realize that. What do you
mean they don't They don't have any bureaus. Now they
may contract with like Sky News or something like that,
but they don't have an actual news bureau outside of
New York City. These are entertainment channels masquerading as news.
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That's why you can have all this funny business going
on behind the scenes. Makes sense, makes sense?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Okay, So when you.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
See Nancy Mays paying one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars,
know that there are probably ten other congress people and
other people who are paying that much or some approximation
of that, just so they can get on cable news
or even local news with the hopes of broadening their profile.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's not organic.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Thank you for breaking that down, Mo, It's almost sincere.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It seems kind of sarcastic. Mark. Did she sound sarcastic there?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, she was dripping with sincerity. Thought, can you do.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That if you have a pit diaper on?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah? There? You go, or one of those hot pocket
one of those tea bag ads you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
T bag pads. Forty We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty before we go.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
During the break, I afforded an email that I had
to both Mark Ronner and Tiffany Hops for regarding how
these PR firms the shifting money where they will either
pay a show so they can place their guests one
of their client or they'll pay the booker who's booking
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the show, trying to forward some sort of financial relationship.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
What did you think of that email? Tipty, I can't
read it, but you can hear it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean I was blown away by how brazen
it is and was. And I asked you, I said,
you know, is it because of an ignorance where that
this company doesn't know that such an act is illegal,
such a request as illegal, or do.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
They not care because it's just so it's so brazy.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I think it's ignorance because in the email, they straight
up asked for what my rate was to come on
this show, straight up asked. And a person who knows
that illegality, wouldn't have put it in there, and using
that phraseology, it's like, so you know, how exactly can
we facilitate this illegal transaction?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
No, really, because I took that to mean the fact
that they phrased it that way meant somebody else, at
least one other person had played ball with him before.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
No, No, I do think someone has played ball with
them before. But for those who don't know, we take
a plug and play a payola test here every single year. Oh,
we drilled on that stuff, CC violations, all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Every single year. We have to pass this test.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
It's tedious, it's it's silly at on some level, but
we have to do it every single year.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Meanwhile, there's people sitting at home thinking what there's ethics
in the radio business. That's why I talk about it.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, And there's a difference between what we do and
what podcasts do. There's a difference between what we do
within the CAFI news department will do and what you
may hear someone else, people just talking about the news.
Mark Ronner, say what you want about him, here we
go when he is in his news break, he's just
giving you the news. Now, if you want to ascribe
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some sort of emotion he has to a story. You're
guessing he's not telling you what he thinks about the news.
That's how you know you're actually getting the news. Me,
I'm riffing. You know exactly what I feel about the news.
And here's an easy way to remember if I or
I should say, if you know, it's that I'm explicitly
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giving you my feelings about a news subject. It's not
the news. It's opinion and editorial. A person who's an
anchor is just giving you the information. If I start
giving you any opinion, we're not talking about the news,
I should say, we're just talking about the news. I'm
not exactly giving you the news. There are rules as
far as dissemination of news. Most people don't know them.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
No, and anybody who's been in the news or radio
or news entertainment, whatever you want to call that we're
in over an extended period of time, also knows that
you switch roles off and on and you still maintain
credibility because you know exactly how to behave in each
of those roles. I mean, I've been a critic as
long as I've been a newsman. They're both journalists, but
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they do different things.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And also there are portions of journalism which include opinion
and editorial. I'm just saying as far as the dissemination
of news, it does not. I mean, for example, you
could watch Walter Cronkite or a television anchor. At the
end of the news broadcasts have a partition and say,
I am now giving you my thoughts about a particular subject,
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Walter Cronkite, maybe talking about the war in Vietnam or
something like that. But there was a partition where you
knew I've moved away from the anchor seat and now
I'm giving you my personal thoughts.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, there's nothing about being a journalist that requires you
to shut down your faculties for observation and critical thinking.
Anybody who thinks that is fooling themselves. But you know,
your story about Nancy Mace in particular, I think that
should be of really major interest to people, because I'm
a huge critic of the show aspect of cable news
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inviting people on who are known dishonest brokers over and
over again. If I were the boss of CNN, if
I caught somebody lying once, I wouldn't invite them back.
But They routinely invite people back for this kfab this
fake wrestling where the host will pretend to smack down
somebody who's not telling the trutive.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's exactly right, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yes, And they're trying to go for the viral clip
and they're trying to get eyeb because unfortunately it's about
ratings and also selling ad space and they need people
to tune in. It's not about for the sanctity of
the news of the Fourth Estate. It has nothing to
do with that. Yeah, it's more the fifth Column than
the Fourth of State. And what you revealed about the
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payola adds another layer of serious insidiousness to the whole scenario.
And there's something else I forgot to mention when we
talk about FEC filings, going back to Nancy Mays, those
are campaign contributions. It could be from people like you
and me. It could be from a super pac, it
could be from any number of entities with nefarious interests
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which are then further shaping quote unquote the news media
space and what is supposedly important and how we should
feel about it air quotes.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So we know that when we see your face on TV.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
I didn't pay my Way on I Earn My Way.
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It's now time for the Viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yes, it is good evening everyone. Well, last night Moe
covered quite a few viral stories. This week has been
nothing short of exciting and busy when it comes to
viral stories. However, our very first story doesn't deal with TikTok,
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doesn't deal with Instagram or Facebook. No, we're going more
old school in the sense that this story actually comes
from hacking into your cell phone.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What's the newest scam.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, it's viral because it's being talked about everywhere and
kfi's own Rich Demurro, our tech guru, actually spoke about
it on his show this previous Saturday. This new scam
taps into your cell phone. Yes, and many of us,
if not all of us, have some sort of cellular device.
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In this case, your cell phone does not have to
be a smartphone. It just has to be equipped to
receive text messages.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So it's pretty basic stuff here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What's happening, Well, scammers have created a new way to
separate you from your money, as they always do, especially
at the holidays. And this specific scam deals with saying
that you have parked illegally in a school zone. You
may have never even been to the school that's alleged
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where you parked illegally. You might not even travel in
that direction, but the scammers have been able to text
you and let you know that you are possibly going
to receive a hefty ticket because you parked illegally in
this school zone. So the details are that the text
is sent to your phone and it goes on to
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describe being from an official sounding website has all the
markers of being again official, which of course can be
quite intimidating, and the text and the website include the
following information. It says that there are claims of speeding
in school zones or other offenses that you don't remember.
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There's another part that says that there is pressure to
pay immediately to avoid fees or legal trouble. If you
click on this link that is attached in your text message,
it's an active link. You'll be prompted to enter your
payment information to somehow mitigate this fine that you're now receiving,
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and that you'll then be contacted in a way so
that they can collect and funnel funds to this criminal enterprise. Again,
the newest viral scam.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Is always like, you gotta do it now, Well, there's
gonna be some sort of consequence.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hurry up, hurry up, hurry.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Up, hurry up and pay.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, that's usually a sign that it's illegitimate.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But unfortunately, as is the case with situations like this
and scams that are on cell phones, they prey upon
people who may not be media literate, and people do
fall victim to these scams. So make sure if you
are receiving any sort of link that says anything about
a ticket that you are being fined for parking illegally
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in a school zone or any zone for that matter,
do not click any links. That's just a rule of thumb,
whether in social media or on your cell phone and
your text messages. The next story, this one deals very
much with biology. And last night again when I was
listening to Later with mo Kelly, you guys talked about
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the pit diaper. Yes, sir, well, the pit diaper is
marketed mostly to men, mostly with nothing, But this story
is more so apropos for women, biological women, women who
are still menstruating for that matter. All Right, let's get
(04:13):
into the nitty gritty. Well, it all started on TikTok
when a young lady shared a video while at a concert.
She was at a concert and she says, hey, thank
you to the woman who in the bathroom gave me
this sanitary napkin during an emergency.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That I was having.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
She says, thank you so much, and also, why didn't
you warn me?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Huh huh?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
What would you need a warning about? Well, this was
no ordinary sanitary napkin, and I imagine half of your
listeners right now are probably kind of plugging their ears
because of the ick factor. But let's grow up here.
It wasn't an ordinary sanitary napkin. No, it's something called
a honey pot pad.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Is that the same thing as a pot pie?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
For some? In this case?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Maybe because the young lady who received this honey pot
pad went on to post her thank yous to this
anonymous woman in the bathroom who shared it with her
during an emergency at this concert.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
But again the woman says, why didn't you warn me?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
She goes on to say that this honey pot pad
gave her all sorts of interesting sensations. And because of
this video, which has now gone viral on TikTok to
the tune of multiple millions of viewers and engagements. People
are having conversations about what this is and whether or
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not it's actually something that women should use, and the
internet is divided. Half of the people who have used
it say it's amazing, it's great. It's infused with oils
and lavenders and aloe and all these things that it
creates a quote cooling sensation.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'm a dude, Okay, I've never used one before. I
need you to really really break it down down.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, you know, in this case, this particular pad lines
the underwear of a user to protect them.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Just like the pit.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, I get that paper might do, okay, but what's
special about this past.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, this one, unlike the pit diaper mo has again
an infusion of different ingredients like mint, lavender, and alo Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
It's herbally infused. It's fancy. It's fancy pants, all right.
Trying to make tea down there?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Am I supposed to be like? I don't know what
I'm supposed to do with that. It's like, am I
gonna throw it in the oven? But if I'm gonna
boil it? Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Some of the users say that they in fact were
boiling and that it was very uncomfortable because of what
these herbs actually did to their nether regions. Again, the
Internet is divided on this newest viral conversation, and experts
have in and said, while this is fun and kind
of the you know, the moment, it's having a moment,
this honeypad, do not use it because it actually messes
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with your biological stuff down there. You don't need to
make pH balance your pH balance. You don't need all
these herbs and and things down there.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Just be, you know, kind of go back to the
old school stuff. So maybe the pit diaper will be
lined with aloe and minto lavender soon enough.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
No, no, no, no, We're going to have Mark try it out.
He'll let us know, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So we can always line it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We can line it with like, I don't know, hot
sauce or something.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
When we come out, we'll have part two of the
Viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs KFI AM six forty Live
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Speaker 1 (07:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Tiffany Hobbs Viral Low Part two. Here we will mo
during your show. You have a tendency to stand up
and stretch.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yes, sure do. Why do you do that?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Keep the blood and keep my energy moving. Sitting is
unhealthy for long periods of time.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Makes perfect sense, and when we think about traveling, specifically
with flying longer flights, people are advised to stand up
and stretch their legs during to get that blood circulating
and to prevent things like clotting and other health issues.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
A man last week shared footage on TikTok. His name
is Richard Dwong, and the video on TikTok is of
a female passenger standing for the majority of a seven
hour flight. Doctor Dwong captioned the recording quote, lady stood
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on my flight for the entire seven hour duration watching
her movie.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The clip shows the woman on her feet as the
plane takes off and taxis or you know, in the
air at it's cruising altitude, not taxing, and the Wong
does clarify in the comments that this woman would eventually
take her seat when the seat belt sign was turned on,
but that for the majority of the flight.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Which was relatively smooth.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
The woman stood, and of course, as he uploaded this,
it invited all sorts of conversation because Dwong's intention for
uploading this video was to essentially criticize or question why
this person, this passenger would stand for seven hours. Well,
the Internet, of course wide in and a lot of
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people gave various responses to this now viral clip. One
response was she could have and a clotting disorder. Another says,
I stand so that I can stretch a lot because
I have a clouding disorder. Another goes on to say
I have massive back issues. I totally get it. Another
person goes on to say, hey, I have a broken tailbone.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Totally understand.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And lastly, one person said I have fibromyalgia, and I
would have to stand for the majority of a flight
because otherwise I'm in agony.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Now my hips can't stand sitting for hours on end.
I've got to stand up. There are times where I'll
like I'll go home or coming into work today, I'm
spending an hour plus in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I won't sit down for a while. I just can't.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You can't and you shouldn't because it's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The point of me, including This is again to say
that you never know when you'll be on the receiving
end of someone's viral clip. You spoke about this earlier
in the show. You never know when someone is there
ready to record you and put you onto social media
and to catapult you to this fame. You don't ask
for this notoriety. This woman didn't ask to be videoed.
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She was standing for whatever reason, but now she is
the subject of a viral video and a lot of
conversation about why she was standing on a flight, which
is totally her own business.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
If she was not encroaching upon someone's space. I don't
see what the issue is. I just don't I just
don't get it. And then to be shamed standing shaped
is something else you know? I don't know about doctor Dwong,
But that's uncool, totally uncool.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Another story that is extremely uncool has to deal with
poor media literacy. Again, I spoke about this a bit
earlier in the segment. It is imperative that we all
avail ourselves to what is accurate and what is inaccurate
online and be able to decipher again between the two
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based off our knowledge of how to find out in
fact check what's real and what's not. Social media prays
upon our our inability to decipher. It just unloads content
and you are left to kind of pick up the
pieces and figure out what's going on. Well, there's a
popular TikTok account that purposely uploads fake content that people
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assume is real, and then people go on and share
this content. This t talk creator has built an entire
platform on uploading fake stories, fake news, if you will,
their sixty second fictional posts that intentionally spread false and
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sensational information. And every month at least one of this
TikTok user's posts go viral.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And that's despite being fake.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Some more fake than others, but all of them again
not accurate.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Here's an example.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This post was uploaded by this TikTok creator and it
said this post that ended up going viral. That is
a complete falsity quote. The New York ceo who had
his Lamborghini pooped in by his employees after he canceled
their Christmas bonuses has just learned that they have all resigned. Literally,
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every employee from the sales staff to the shipping department
emailed in their resignation to the CEO at the same time.
End quote that is a completely made up.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Fake story.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Went viral.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It went viral, completely viral because people don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You forgot one thing. Sure, a lot of people don't care, don't.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Care, and the more sensational, the more viral it seems
to go. Just like the woman standing up on the flight,
there's no reason anyone should really be bothering her and
questioning why she's doing it, and it certainly shouldn't go viral,
but it did. This person, this TikTok account again deliberately
uploads content to fool people, and people either don't care
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or don't take the time to fact check, and his
posts then are circulated throughout the world millions of times
over and he does not go back and then say, hey,
that's a fake. So be careful what you share people,
fact check, crosscheck if you're interested, and make sure that
before you press share or send on a story or
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a piece of content, you find out if it is.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
True or not.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
The key phrase and all that was media literacy. And
when we come back, I'm going to tell you about
what goes on behind the scenes when you're watching your
favorite cable news program. I put news in quotation marks
you wonder why you see a lot of the same
people every single day. I'm going to tell you exactly
why you do and the money involved.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And I am fortunate enough or blessed enough, however you
want to describe it. I am fortunate, blessed, lucky, whatever
to be able to say. I've done a lot of
TV work in a commentary sense. A question I often
get is, well, how did you get on? Well, I
earn my way, And I can say that confidently because
there are a lot of people who pay their way
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to get on cable television if you are or even
local news like I've donean MSNBC, CNN, Fox eleven, NBC obviously, Spectrum,
and a bunch of other stations and networks. And every
single time I had to earn my way on either
I pitched myself or someone saw a clip and I
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was recommended to them. But I didn't pay my way
on MO What are you talking about? There are a
lot of people in this business who will hire television publicists,
and they will pay big money because they have a
relationship with a television network, A cable network or a
booker of a specific show to gain favor and get
you as a client on this show. They'll pay big money.
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And it's a racket in many instances where you will
pay a publicist and that publicist will either pay a host,
pay a show, or pay a show booker to have
their client on. And these publicists usually get paid by
the a pair, arrants, or any type of gig that
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they can secure for their client. I know this for
a fact. How do I know, because the publicists have
contacted me offering to pay me to have people on
this show.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I even have the emails.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I had to politely inform them, Oh, that's plug all,
that's illegal, we don't do that. But I know how
the business works. I'm talking about this because there's a
story which wrote today. You may know Congresswoman Nancy Makes,
Republican from South Carolina, and the FEC filings Federal Election
Commission filings, meaning that this money came from her campaign funds.
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The FEC filings show that this campaign season, Nancy may
spent one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars for the
sole purpose of getting on cable news. One hundred and
sixty five thousand dollars where she basically was paying her
way on different cable networks. Why would they do this
to raise their national profile maybe eventually run for governor, senator,
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president one day. You know about Nancy Mace in large
part because you would see here on cable news just
about every damn day. From February twenty third to October
twenty fourth, Mace made eight payments totally one hundred and
sixty five thousand, ranging from seventy five excuse me, seventy
five hundred to thirty thousand dollars a piece to Driver
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eight Media for quote unquote media consulting and Driver eight Media.
Their job is getting their clients on cable news. It's
not illegal, but it's definitely quid pro quo pay for play.
I've never had to pay for any appearance that I've
had on TV. And if you don't know what's going
on behind the scenes, here's how you can break it down.
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If you see someone they're introduced as like for example,
if you watch CNN, you'll see someone like Scott Jennings
and the introduce him as CNN contributor. That means he's
being paid to be on there. He's not paying to
be on there. If you see a random guest talking
about a specific issue that you've probably never seen before
and you'll never see again, that's probably a legitimate guest
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because it's issue specific and they and their producer needed
to find someone who is, I don't know, an oceographer
or something like that, or knew something about underwater basket
weaving because they're having a specific segment on underwater basket weaving.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But if you.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
See someone who's getting on rather frequently and has really
no specific expertise, usually a congress person who's trying to
develop their profile, you can bet dollars to donuts that
they've hired a media consultancy who has a relationship with
that network, with that show, and they're basically buying their
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way on. That's how it works, and there are people
like me who get on their merits. Yes, I'm putting
my packing myself on the back because it's really really
hard to get on TV. It's really hard, and I'm
just talking about getting on and getting on for free.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
In other words, they're not paying me.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I've done it at least one hundred appearances on CNN
and CNN and International never receive one dime from them,
But they called me because I was good enough to
handle the political subjects.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's how the business works.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Most people, most publicists are getting paid by the appearance
that they can secure. So when you see that Nancy
makes paid one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars, she
wasn't paying that as just a retainer and hopefully these
the Driver eight Media will get her on a show
here or there. No, she's basically paying for the successful
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procurement of placement on these shows.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
If you get if she gets placed on a show,
she'll pay Let's say, in general, I think it's like
maybe five dollars in appearance that these clients will pay
to get on a Fox News or an MSNBC or
so forth. It's all a racket. Is all a racket.
And if someone's introduced as a contributor, that means the
network is paying that person to appear. If it's someone
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who's like me, just a regular talking head, and they
say coming up now or you know now to give
us more information. Is mister mo Keller you know him
as host of Later with mo'kelly on KFI AM six forty.
That's probably a legitimate guess because they're not associated with
the network. And if you only see me like once
every three or four weeks, okay, I'm probably not paying
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to get on because it wouldn't be financially advantageous. But
if you see someone on there two or three times
a week, like a congressman Byron Donald's or a Jerry Connelly,
you may see him on MSNBC or Donald's on every network.
They probably have a media consultancy where they're paying this
place to get place on these shows, and there's usually
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a kickback system. If I'm a booker for a show,
let's just say, Rachel Maddow, just pick your show out
of the air, and I'm paying Tiffany Hobbs's media company
to get me placed on that. I will probably pay
her let's say five hundred dollars for every time she'd
get me placed on the show, and she'll use a
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portion of that because we did this in the music
industry for radio stations, and she would use a portion
of that to kick down to the producer. You do
this for me, I'll do this for you. I book
your person. Here's two hundred and fifty dollars each time
you get them on. Here's another two hundred and fifty dollars.
Everyone's happy. The client gets on the news, the booker
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gets a little extra in their pocket, and the publicist
gets paid and their media profile also grows.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Does that then delegitimize the news? Anythink about it?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, it's one.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's not the news, it's cable news, which is the
opinion and editorial not actual news dissemination that Mark Ronnerd
does is a who, what, where, when, why and how?
And when you have like show like Rachel Matto or
Jesse Waters, they're given their opinions, they're editorializing about whatever
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stories they want to talk about, but they are not
in any way given the news.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And anyone tells you otherwise is media illiterate?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Going back to what you were saying last segment, those
aren't news channels. The reason why cable is different from
broadcast news is broadcast news like two four seven, NBCNBC,
they're governed by the FCC. They're using the public's airwaves.
That's why it's free. Cable news is a private signal.
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You are opting in. You are a cable news subscriber.
You are, and cable news is no different than Comedy Central.
What I mean by that is you can have profanity
and nudity on HBO, and you can have all sorts
of profanity on Comedy Central. Because it's cable, you're opting in.
You can't do the same things on broadcast news or
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broadcast television stations. So that's why I'm very particular when
people talk about, oh, you know, the news is biased.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Do you know what news is? Do you know what
news is not?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
And if you want to tell me that, well, MSNBC
is biased news. Okay, you don't know what you're talking
about it. That's how it's created. Its opinion and editorial.
Fox News is opinion and editorial. CNN Domestic is opinion
and editorial. Now, CNN has eighty eight bureaus around the world,
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including CNN International, and those are news. In other words,
if you go to another country, you are CNN. You're
not getting the junk that you're seeing on CNN Domestic.
You're getting the actual news without opinion and editorial. They're
just giving it to you straight. What CNN Domestic does.
People think of CNN as only what they see on
their TV here. Now that's like a small portion of
their business. Fox News doesn't have any international bureaus. CNN
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has bureaus around the world. Why you have reporters and
journalists representing CNN around the world, and you'll never get
that with Fox. People don't realize that. What do you
mean they don't They don't have any bureaus. Now they
may contract with like Sky News or something like that,
but they don't have an actual news bureau outside of
New York City. These are entertainment channels masquerading as news.
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That's why you can have all this funny business going
on behind the scenes. Makes sense, makes sense?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Okay, So when you.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
See Nancy Mays paying one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars,
know that there are probably ten other congress people and
other people who are paying that much or some approximation
of that, just so they can get on cable news
or even local news with the hopes of broadening their profile.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's not organic.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Thank you for breaking that down, Mo, It's almost sincere.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It seems kind of sarcastic. Mark. Did she sound sarcastic there?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, she was dripping with sincerity. Thought, can you do.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That if you have a pit diaper on?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah? There? You go, or one of those hot pocket
one of those tea bag ads you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
T bag pads. Forty We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
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KFI AM six forty before we go.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
During the break, I afforded an email that I had
to both Mark Ronner and Tiffany Hops for regarding how
these PR firms the shifting money where they will either
pay a show so they can place their guests one
of their client or they'll pay the booker who's booking
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the show, trying to forward some sort of financial relationship.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
What did you think of that email? Tipty, I can't
read it, but you can hear it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean I was blown away by how brazen
it is and was. And I asked you, I said,
you know, is it because of an ignorance where that
this company doesn't know that such an act is illegal,
such a request as illegal, or do.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
They not care because it's just so it's so brazy.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I think it's ignorance because in the email, they straight
up asked for what my rate was to come on
this show, straight up asked. And a person who knows
that illegality, wouldn't have put it in there, and using
that phraseology, it's like, so you know, how exactly can
we facilitate this illegal transaction?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
No, really, because I took that to mean the fact
that they phrased it that way meant somebody else, at
least one other person had played ball with him before.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
No, No, I do think someone has played ball with
them before. But for those who don't know, we take
a plug and play a payola test here every single year. Oh,
we drilled on that stuff, CC violations, all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Every single year. We have to pass this test.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
It's tedious, it's it's silly at on some level, but
we have to do it every single year.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Meanwhile, there's people sitting at home thinking what there's ethics
in the radio business. That's why I talk about it.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, And there's a difference between what we do and
what podcasts do. There's a difference between what we do
within the CAFI news department will do and what you
may hear someone else, people just talking about the news.
Mark Ronner, say what you want about him, here we
go when he is in his news break, he's just
giving you the news. Now, if you want to ascribe
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some sort of emotion he has to a story. You're
guessing he's not telling you what he thinks about the news.
That's how you know you're actually getting the news. Me,
I'm riffing. You know exactly what I feel about the news.
And here's an easy way to remember if I or
I should say, if you know, it's that I'm explicitly
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giving you my feelings about a news subject. It's not
the news. It's opinion and editorial. A person who's an
anchor is just giving you the information. If I start
giving you any opinion, we're not talking about the news,
I should say, we're just talking about the news. I'm
not exactly giving you the news. There are rules as
far as dissemination of news. Most people don't know them.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
No, and anybody who's been in the news or radio
or news entertainment, whatever you want to call that we're
in over an extended period of time, also knows that
you switch roles off and on and you still maintain
credibility because you know exactly how to behave in each
of those roles. I mean, I've been a critic as
long as I've been a newsman. They're both journalists, but
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they do different things.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And also there are portions of journalism which include opinion
and editorial. I'm just saying as far as the dissemination
of news, it does not. I mean, for example, you
could watch Walter Cronkite or a television anchor. At the
end of the news broadcasts have a partition and say,
I am now giving you my thoughts about a particular subject,
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Walter Cronkite, maybe talking about the war in Vietnam or
something like that. But there was a partition where you
knew I've moved away from the anchor seat and now
I'm giving you my personal thoughts.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, there's nothing about being a journalist that requires you
to shut down your faculties for observation and critical thinking.
Anybody who thinks that is fooling themselves. But you know,
your story about Nancy Mace in particular, I think that
should be of really major interest to people, because I'm
a huge critic of the show aspect of cable news
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inviting people on who are known dishonest brokers over and
over again. If I were the boss of CNN, if
I caught somebody lying once, I wouldn't invite them back.
But They routinely invite people back for this kfab this
fake wrestling where the host will pretend to smack down
somebody who's not telling the trutive.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's exactly right, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yes, And they're trying to go for the viral clip
and they're trying to get eyeb because unfortunately it's about
ratings and also selling ad space and they need people
to tune in. It's not about for the sanctity of
the news of the Fourth Estate. It has nothing to
do with that. Yeah, it's more the fifth Column than
the Fourth of State. And what you revealed about the
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payola adds another layer of serious insidiousness to the whole scenario.
And there's something else I forgot to mention when we
talk about FEC filings, going back to Nancy Mays, those
are campaign contributions. It could be from people like you
and me. It could be from a super pac, it
could be from any number of entities with nefarious interests
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which are then further shaping quote unquote the news media
space and what is supposedly important and how we should
feel about it air quotes.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So we know that when we see your face on TV.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
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