October 2, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from the AI Powered Friend.com app, and the new TikTok “28 Days Without A Shower” trend, to charging your spouse for undone chores and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.
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Now social media, Facebook gets tiptok the viral Jidney viral Load,
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Viral load.
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With Timney k if I am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app.
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It's Later with Mo Kelly.
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I'm Tiffany Hobbes and this is tonight's viral load. If
you're looking for a friend, there's a new app, a
new device that could possibly fit into your life as
a companion. It's not a furry friend. It's not a
digi pet. Those were popular in the nineties. No, this
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one is actually a pendant, a necklace that you wear
around your neck. You might have seen these advertisements on
the sides of buses. You might have seen them inside
of subway car subway trains. You might have seen them
on large scale billboards. It's called friend dot com and
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the billboard itself the advertisement is very nondescript.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
There's just this.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Little kind of glowing pendant and it says friend dot com.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's meant to draw your attention, and it has drawn
the attention of many people. And that's why we're talking
about it in tonight's viral load because as a counter
to what people perceive as a dystopian entrance into companionship,
people are what are they doing? They are spray painting,
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they are graffitiing over these ads. In an effort to
try and get people to not necessarily buy into this
digital friend, it would start it by Avi Schiffman, who
is a tech founder, a tech bro who rose to
fame during the COVID nineteen pandemic as he created a
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very popular case tracking website. He took the funding that
he was able to generate from that website and also
raised an additional two point five million dollars to create
this AI powered pendant, which again offers or claims to
offer you companionship by listening to your conversations and sending
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you messages. The pitch is very simple. Loneliness is a
public health crisis, and friend dot com has a product
to fix it. Just clip this one hundred and twenty
nine dollars pendant to your shirt, Let it listen to
how you interact throughout the day or night, Be careful,
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and it will then send you encouraging messages tailored to
your personal algorithm.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's always on. It's an AI powered friend.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But now we're seeing images go viral all over social
media of people spray painting, vandalizing things with slogans like
quote get real friends, and quote stop profiting off of loneliness.
But Avi Schiffman, the creator, seems to believe that all
press is good press, and they push forward with this concept.
(03:37):
It's not yet available, but it will be soon.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Both, Look, it's not for me, and there's something swarmy
about it, But I think it's a brilliant idea from
a marketing standpoint where there's not a lot of overhead.
You create the pendant, which obviously is more than one
hundred percent markup at one hundred and twenty nine dollars,
and it's providing AI. So that's technology that you're not
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really paying for after a certain point, and it's just
going to bring in mostly revenue. The upfront cost is
probably in the R and D, the research and the development,
but after it gets going, it's probably a cash cow
waiting to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It is, and that's what they're banking on that loneliness
will translate hello, a cash cow being a cash cow.
Speaking of loneliness. If you're lonely and you are a
person who suffers from depression or any sort of withdrawal
from society, then one of the side effects that you
might be familiar with is apparently a.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Lack of regular hygiene.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
People who experience depression say that it's hard for them
to get up and do their everyday tasks, including practicing
their hygiene.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Now on TikTok there's a new trend. There's a cow
a hell and that challenge is supposed to shed light
on depression and what people go through. And instead of
raising money, instead of dumping a bucket of ice water
over your head or planking, people are entering into this challenge.
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It's called the twenty eight days without a Shower. What
twenty eight days without a shower.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Like the month of February without taking a shower, and
I assume that includes not taking.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
A bath, that includes any kind of bathing that would
then wash you in your entirety.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
There are people who are saying there are other ways
you can do the why the hot spots.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You can do the hot spots, but you are not
to submerge yourself or stand under anything that could potentially.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'd rather make a donation. No, I'll talk about it
on my radio show, But damn I want to take
a shower. I'm and wash my ass.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Twenty eight days, and people again are saying that this
is to call attention to what happens when people are
experienced mental health issues.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I got to ask a quick questions. So, Mark, what's
the longest you've ever gone without taking a shower, willingly
or unwillingly.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I don't have to answer that question, but I wonder
is who's the challenge for? Here? Is the challenge for
people who have to be around you, because there's really.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
No upside for people who are not involved in the challenge. No,
if I were to if I were like under house
arrest and I had to stay in my house by myself,
I could probably manage three or four days.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I mean, we went through the COVID nineteen pandemic where
we all were at home.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
For excuse me, I showered every single day during the pandemic, every.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Single day exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
And I know, again it's related to a mental health issue.
So we're not at all putting down people who experience
these sorts of effects of mental health turmoil, but to
try and raise awareness by then.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Mimicking more or less what people go through.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You can talk about it, you ain't got to do it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You don't have to do it, won't raise money.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Look, I don't need to avoid a shower for a
month to do what we're doing right now. Use our
platforms which are available to discuss it, raise awareness.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
But we don't have to go through go to those extremes.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yes, to be fair, and I'm being serious now, there
are members of my family who are veterans, and like
my brother in law, he's retired now working police department,
but he's Special Forces ranger. He's used to being in
the bush, as they say, weeks at a time. Yeah,
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and so showering obviously became less and less important. Sure,
and a lot of people who are veterans, who have
seen actual combat, they will come back reintegrate in society
and showering is not the biggest priority. That is something
completely different. It is. But for the rest of us civilians,
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damn it.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Take your shower, take a shower.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
On the other side, we're gonna talk about a couple,
a woman in a couple who's doing something different to
raise money in her own relationship with her spouse. And
then lastly, aging happens, but apparently if you are in
this industry, you're not supposed to age because people are
talking about it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
All of that more well, that was a great tease.
It's a Lady with mo Kelly viral though Part two
coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
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Now it's Tucking my Room Tiffany Live on CAMFILEA with
moo Kelly.
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She'll talk about the time.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
This on social media, it's Tiffany Hubs.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Hey if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And this is part two, the conclusion of tonight's viral
load mote.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
You're married? I often, yes, I am.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
When I have these sorts of stories, I often often
throw it to you because you have longevity in the game.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You've been married for.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
A while almost ten years now.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's plenty of time to devise a chore system in
your household.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Do you have one of those?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I wouldn't say chure, but there are some expectations like
if the dishes in the sink. Just go ahead and
clean them off and put them in a dishwasher. I
will be the one who'll pull out the trash cans
and take the trash cans in, Like for example, I
pull them out on Wednesday, they pick them up. The
trash is picked up on Thursday, and I'll pull them
in when I get home from work on a Thursday night.
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But I wouldn't say chores or there are days where
I have time, I'll pick up the dog pool in
the backyard. But that's about it.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So you get it done, is what you're.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Absolutely it needs to be done.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
It needs to be done.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Can you imagine if your wife decided to charge you
a fee for every chore that remained undone according to
her standards. Can you imagine what might that cause in
your relationship.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
More than friction? You know, because I don't know if
you know this, have a little bit of a mouth
on me, oh tiny, I suspect that if she were
to broach that, like there's a profanity jar or a
chore jar of if you don't take out the trash
or clean the dishes to your point, I'm gonna charge
you twenty five dollars like a ticket or something we
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probably would have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, there's a Georgia woman who's going viral because she
has decided within her marriage that to keep chores balanced
in their household, she would invoice her husband every month
for the accumulation of chores that he has forgotten to do.
Her name is Jess, right, she's thirty two. Her husband's
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name is DJ, and Jess the wife tracks husband DJ's
missed tasks on a spreadsheet. She's going old school, and
she charges get this five dollars per small slip up,
and a small slip up could be leaving the toothpaste
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out at fifty dollars for largest slip ups, like forgetting
to bring the car seats in. They have infant children.
At first the husband DJ says he was surprised, but
now he says that it keeps the peace in their relationship.
He went on to say, she's not yelling. I just
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pay it and that's it. I will say this. If
it works in your marriage, so be it. Let me
just give another example.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
There's some people say like the man has to provide
all this and be the sole provider. They should not
split bills, And I say, whatever works for your house.
If that works for their household, that's fine. It damn sure.
We're not working on and.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Again, it's going viral, so people are of course weighing
in like we are now, and it may very well
spur others into action. I wonder how many wives or
even husbands or spouses of any kind might implore such
a such a strategy to quote unquote keep the chores
balanced for go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
No, I'm just saying it. I hope you know who
you're married. Yeah, And I would be inclined to believe
that if this wife is proposing this or mandating this,
there are probably other similar types of expectations. I wouldn't
I don't want to say with intimacy. I'm just saying, however,
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that house is run. She probably is the dominating personality
in the Marriica.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
She sounds sounds very fun at parties.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
It's like yeah, probably, yeah, she probably get on my frves.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Last story, something that got on my nerves personally, is
this attention being paid to athletes, I said in industries,
So now we're talking sports athletes who are aging. Aging happens,
It happens to everyone, and if you're in the public eye,
even as a sports figure. That aging is going to
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be chronicled throughout your time, throughout your throughout your career.
And in this case, those who are being targeted are
basketball players Lebron James and Stephen Curry. They're going viral
because their hair has turned noticeably gray.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, Lebron, he colors his beard. Yeah, you know what,
I think it's a combination of we see athletes more
than ever. We see them on their social media, we
see them in their personal projects. You know, Lebron has
a television production company, He's and all sorts of things.
He has a school. We see them more than just
on the court. And there's also since players are playing longer,
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Lebron is in his twenty third season, that will always
be a part of the conversation his age, aging and
how he looks on the court physically and also athletically.
And one other thing sports media they always have to
have something to talk about, hey do so as players
get older and their skills maybe decline or precipitously decline,
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they're going to talk about that. And also the look.
And let's be honest, they've always made fun of Lebron
and his hairline and what he does to hide his
mail pattern baldness. That's just I'm sorry. That just comes
with the territory because we're so TV look focused. Back
in the day, you would have an NBA game like
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one a week and maybe get your local games and
you have like the national game on Saturday. But you
didn't get to see every NBA game of every team
like they have the NBA League Pass. It's just different
now and with social media, everyone has something to say
about everything.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, and Lebron is forty forty year old's gray. Imagine
that Stephen Curry is thirty seven to be thirty eight.
That is not young. It's young ish in comparison, but
it's not young. And so all this is a hullabaloo.
People are making a lot of a lot of a
lot of it out. How am I trying to say
a lot of it when they shouldn't be. It's a
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natural progression. But it's viral and that's why we're talking
about it, and it's tripping me up apparently, And that's
tonight's viral load. I'll see you here on Saturday from
five to seven pm for Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Yes, it's later with Moe Kelly. Caller number nine, Disney
fourpack is yours. We're are just going to get straight
to a caller number nine. Caller number nine, number nine,
You and three friends of family members could be you,
a baby, mama and your two kids, You, your wife,
your mistress and I don't know herd side dude, form
(16:07):
family four pack whatever. Your family might be going to
Disneyland or Disney California Venture. Caller number nine. The family
four pack is yours. The phones have exploded partly because
they were probably watching on YouTube and got the information advanced. Yes,
I gave them the advance hook up so they know
(16:28):
what was coming. If you're calling in right now and
the phone lines are busy, that's probably because you weren't
watching the show on YouTube. Tiffany did not give him
all the information.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
All of the information.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I told him when I was going to give it away,
I told him what caller was gonna be. See that's
what you get from not watching. Call he number nine,
and I can see twelve right now just slowly hanging
up on people. Call her number one. Click call he
number two. Click. Call he number three, I don't like you. Click.
Call he number four, you won last week? Click.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's vicious with it and fast. Oh yeah, it's sometimes
I think it's personal with Twala. I think he gets
enjoyment hanging up on people, letting them know that they
didn't win. Because they hear Twala Twalla said, kf I
and they said, did I win?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Click, It's kind of a status.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It's just it's like he's I don't know, it's just
maybe his kids made a matter or something. He just
takes it out on the callers.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
He's very efficient. Were looking at the positive way.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
He's efficient eight hundred and five to two zero, one, five,
three four. Caller number nine DK Fuel on the mo
migos chat says he was number six. Call number six.
Tommy god Loved from the momgles chat said he was
number three. So I'm just saying, the people were in
the momgles chat legitimately had a chance to win. They
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were they were in there, they got through. That's why
you should have been people. People don't listen. They don't
they don't take the advice. I'm giving them free advice.
I gave them a back doorway in. It's coming down
to it. And I can see Tuala's like on number
eight right now. If I'm not mistaken, he's methodically moving
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through it. Oh he's on number nine right now. Has
he found someone? Okay, well, well I know Twala has
talked to someone. And here's the spiel. He will say,
have you won anything in the last thirty days? And
some people will try to lie and they don't know.
There are ways that we can ascertain whether you won
or called recently, or you called maybe last week, or
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name that movie called classic. It's like and they'll try
to change their voice or something, or they want to
give a different name. It's like, nah, dog, we know
who you are. We know who you are. Stop lying.
And so even though he may be on caller number nine,
I say, hey, you know he may have to let
that person go because they may not be eligible. So
(18:53):
I think, hey, Tony, does he have a winner at
this point? He's working it out. No tell us some
of Mike you's just shaking your head. Doesn't work for radio.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Oh yeah, he's taking their information right now.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Okay, so we have a winner tentatively us the family,
forepat do they sound excited. Can you ear hustle? You
hear anything? Oh, they're very excited. Yeah, why not? Yeah,
let's put them through. Who am I talking to other
than just call him winner? Is it mister Winner or
(19:24):
MS Winner? Melanie Mattson Melanie, Melanie. Aren't you wait a bitte?
Weren't you in the Momigos chat?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
See, yes, yay.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yes, I am so happy, wait bitte? And didn't you
specifically ask when we were giving away tickets? Didn't you
ask something about the contest?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
What did you ask? I don't remember your question, but
I remember I responded to you.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
When when was it? That was a long time ago?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yeah, but you were asking like when were we going
to give the tickets away or something like that, and
I responded to you. And it's so nice to know
that someone who was watching the show on YouTube following instructions,
and you know when the call, and I told you
about when the call, I told you what number caller
we were going to be asking for. Everything was above board,
We weren't hiding anything. All you had to do was
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log on to the chat and you did, and here
you are a winner, and I could not be more
happy for you. Congratulations.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Do you know who you wan to take?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Oh? Oh, yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Okay, that's one person. You got two more people you
can take.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
That's a's a four pack?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh my gosh. Yes, yes, yes, oh I have to
think about that. I don't want to say that on
the air lock yourself in. Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Let me ask you this. Does your son have a
significant other that he may want to bring.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
No, no, no, he's mentally challenged that you might say.
They used to call it something that you can't say anymore.
It started with an R.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Okay, I'll just say.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Let's just say he's with me and we haven't been
for a long time because I haven't been able to
afford it. So this is Oh my god, he's going
to be so excited. Oh that's all I want is
on a special day or what?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:26):
No, no, no, it's a family four pack that will be
given to you and we'll have someone contact you with
the parameters as far as when you can go. But
you're not locked into one day.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Oh fantastic, Oh you can't. It's made me so happy.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's all we want.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
That's all we want so much.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Mo, You're very welcome. Don't think twala, it's all men.
Don't think Twalla. I've given to all a hard time.
There's actually everything to do with Tuala because he's the
one who's choosing the phone line. So Mellie, I'm going
to put you back on hold because I know Chuala
needs to get more information from you.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Okay, thank you, And.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Once you go, I want you to hit us back
because you know how to reach us in the mo
Migo's chat and we would love to hear about your experience.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
See what it pays off to get in the Migo chat.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
That's what I'm saying. I wish people would just listen
to me and take my word for it. We give
it away, freezing congratulations.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Thank you, sank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
We'll talk soon. Okay, it's Later with Mo Kelly. We'll
check in with George Norri when we come back and
find out what's going on with Coast to Coast a
m KFI I AM six forty. We're live everywhere in
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You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 6 (22:54):
Coming up in just moments, we'll be Coast to Coast
AM with George Norri and he choice me. Now, good evening, George,
what's coming up on the show?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Got a great program ton I missed to Kelly. We're
going to talk about Darwin and intelligent design and then
later on ET disclosure. When will it happen?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Hello? You and me both been asking that question for years.
I hope it's within my lifetime. We've had sub level
of disclosure, but definitely not full disclosure.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
You got that right, But we'll talk about that tonight
on Coast to Coast and KFI.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I cannot wait. Thank you, sir, Talk soon, buddy. I
and I mean this with complete seriousness. I'm one of
those when I talk about UFOs and intelligent life beyond Earth,
I'm not talking about the in a conspiratorial way. I'm
I'm I've said this before, but at Bears mentioned again.
I talk about the mathematical certainty of it not just
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being us. You know, if you think about the billions
of stars in just our galaxy, and that's not counting
the exoplanets combined with the trillions of galic seas in
the known observable universe. Mathematically, it would be impossible, whether
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you believe in God or not, whether you believe in
just luck, that we came out of this primordial ooze
and it's just here on this one rock, which happens
to be in what they call the habitable zone, the
inhabitable zone. The math does not even support that. So
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when I say, yes, I believe that there is intelligent
life other than on this rock. And I'm not so
sure there's even intelligent life on this rock, given what
I've been seeing on this planet for the you know,
for the better part of my adult life. Yeah, I
just talk about the math, and I think I've talked
about this with you, Mark, the Fermi paradox, where we
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as humans and being able to look beyond the Earth,
we've only had the real technology. I'm not talking about
Copernicus and Galileo with a telescope to I'm talking about
being able to really look into the cosmos and see
on a granular level different planets and solar systems. We've
(25:30):
only been able to do that for the pa maybe
past forty fifty years.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well, Carl Sagan laid it all out way back in
the Cosmos Days about how it's nearly mathematically impossible that
there isn't some kind of advanced alien life. But we
do know that if they have the technology to get
here from wherever they came as they can obliterate us,
we better hope their patient and forgiving.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, and hopefully talking about Carl Sagan and Cosmos, which
was the basis for the movie Contact, Yeah, you could like,
and I'm taking this from the movie, hopefully they'll think
of us as like an ant hill in a positive sense,
where we're not all that important to them, and paraphrasing
as opposed to an ant hill that they would just
go ahead and step on because we're of no consequence. Look,
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I don't know if we will ever have and I'm
not asking for some intelligent race to land on the
White House lawn. I'm not saying that, and I'm not
saying that they would be humanoid in form. Our concept
of life is very limited of what we know because
we always think from an earth bound perspective carbon based
life forms. And when I was talking about the family
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paradox is, there could be other civilizations, but we're not
passing each other in the timeline in the larger course
of history at the same time. You know, if there
was a civilization which was beyond our reach, which existed,
let's say three thousand years ago or three million years ago,
doesn't mean that we're going to cross in the sense
(26:58):
of their technology. In our technology, we may not come
to the point where we could contact each other at
the same point in time. And to Mark's point, if
we're contacting anyone, or if anyone's come to visit us,
because we can't even get to Mars, they are vastly
superior than us, vastly in ways that we can't even comprehend.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I keep going back to the original day the Earth
stood still, and I don't think we've really changed that
much since the fifties when that came out. What did
we do in that movie? To Gort and Klattu, we
probably haven't earned the benefit of the doubt so much.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
No, we're probably very unimpressive. And you think about our technology.
We just had the we just got the ability to
fly about one hundred and ten years ago. Okay, we
haven't been in the whole technological revolution all that long.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
We haven't even been pooping indoors that long. Are you
hitting me right, any alien civilization that looks at us
has got to think, oh, infants, they barely know what
they're doing, they can barely feed themselves, and they're on
the verge of wiping out their own planet like a
bunch of morons daily.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, daily. So I don't think anyone they put us away.
I'm quite sure if there is an alien intelligent entity race,
they're probably monitoring us. They're probably aware of us in
ways that we can't even imagine. I'm probably sure that
we've been visited. Now where that is in our timeline
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of advanced civilization or whether we're even considered advance by comparison,
who knows. But I always talk about this in a
very serious way. So, yeah, it would be ridiculous to
believe that we're the only ones in the vastness of
the universe. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being,
even if you don't believe in intelligent design, there's just
(28:50):
no way. There's no way. If you think it happened
organically on Earth, why would it not happen organically somewhere
else in this universe.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
I've never really understood the logic behind intelligent design because
it seems to me like the argument is, since we
don't understand absolutely everything right now, we throw out all
our painstakingly accumulated knowledge and just chalk it up to
supernatural stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Well, I wouldn't say supernatural. Let me make the argument
for intelligent design. I look at the complexity of life
and how it is an organism which is actively involved
in survival, repairing itself and a level of self awareness
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and in the sense of survival. That says to me,
it is unlike anything else that we know of What
I mean by that is the intricacies of life, consciousness
to human body says to me, I don't believe it
happened by mere accident. And their levels to this. There
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are those who believe that we were created as in God,
that there was an omniscient, omnipresent being. That's one level.
And there are those who believe that there was intelligent
design in the way that humans could create you know,
artificial life forms where it's intelligent design and we were
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created and created with a purpose, But we're not omniscient.
You know, there's an argument that has been made that
we were created, but it wasn't from an all powerful,
all knowing being. There are different levels as far as
the whole idea of creationism, which is not necessarily biblical,
which is not necessarily supreme being.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, but you're familiar with the old Arthur C. Clark
quote that anything that looks sufficiently advanced that we don't
understand can seem like magic. I think that's kind of
what we're doing when we make these arguments.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Well, no, but if we're sufficiently advanced, think about what
we're doing with just AI and robotics in the past
twenty years. What might that look like in a thousand years,
assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves at that point.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
In a thousand we couldn't even predict We couldn't even
predict a century from that.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
But that's my point I'm saying, So, imagine a civilization
with a similar evolutionary path as humans and mastery of technology.
What it might be able to do if they just
advanced as humans did, but had an advanced civilization lifespan
of let's say, twenty thousand years, as opposed to our
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only maybe two hundred years since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Well, I think what we all better hope is that
if there is another situation or another civilization monitoring us.
It's like Gary seven in that old Star Trek episode
where he's going to intervene before we wipe ourselves out.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
I actually think using Star Trek John Delancey, who played Q. Yeah,
in Star Trek, he had a conversation with Picard. He
was saying, like, look, in about fifty two centuries, the
human race will evolve past the level of Q. And
I understood that because who knows where we might be
(32:07):
in five thousand, two hundred years, assuming we ascend at
the same trajectory. Just I'm amazed at what humans have
been able to do in the past forty years thanks
to computers. Just computers, and I think that has exponentially
(32:27):
increased the rate of advancement.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Do you think Tillie Norwood is the apex of our civilization?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Not at all, But it's indicative of ways we can't
even conceive of where our civilization is going, in the
way that we are determined to replace ourselves on every
single level visually, you know, theoretically, cognitively, who knows where
we might be. I just just give you a round number.
If our civilization should exist in ten thousand years, there's
(32:56):
no telling what we might be capable of in ten
thousand years, and we to the Arthur C. Clark reference, who
knows what we might create.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
We're gonna have such cool be days in ten thousand years.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, I probably won't. We won't need one.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Intend now, you and Tuala and all your GI issues,
you're gonna be set.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I won't have a GI issue in ten thousand years,
I'm sure now. And I'm not gonna be one of
those who's gonna live in a cryo chamber until they
come back and figure out how to cure whatever disease
I died of, or cure old age and find the
fountain of youth.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Well, the moment tula clones made from your remains will
have the best be days.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
God willing from your lips to God say so, yes,
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Now social media, Facebook gets tiptok the viral Jidney viral Load,
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Viral load.
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With Timney k if I am six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 5 (00:38):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm Tiffany Hobbes and this is tonight's viral load. If
you're looking for a friend, there's a new app, a
new device that could possibly fit into your life as
a companion. It's not a furry friend. It's not a
digi pet. Those were popular in the nineties. No, this
(01:03):
one is actually a pendant, a necklace that you wear
around your neck. You might have seen these advertisements on
the sides of buses. You might have seen them inside
of subway car subway trains. You might have seen them
on large scale billboards. It's called friend dot com and
(01:24):
the billboard itself the advertisement is very nondescript.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
There's just this.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Little kind of glowing pendant and it says friend dot com.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's meant to draw your attention, and it has drawn
the attention of many people. And that's why we're talking
about it in tonight's viral load because as a counter
to what people perceive as a dystopian entrance into companionship,
people are what are they doing? They are spray painting,
(01:56):
they are graffitiing over these ads. In an effort to
try and get people to not necessarily buy into this
digital friend, it would start it by Avi Schiffman, who
is a tech founder, a tech bro who rose to
fame during the COVID nineteen pandemic as he created a
(02:17):
very popular case tracking website. He took the funding that
he was able to generate from that website and also
raised an additional two point five million dollars to create
this AI powered pendant, which again offers or claims to
offer you companionship by listening to your conversations and sending
(02:42):
you messages. The pitch is very simple. Loneliness is a
public health crisis, and friend dot com has a product
to fix it. Just clip this one hundred and twenty
nine dollars pendant to your shirt, Let it listen to
how you interact throughout the day or night, Be careful,
(03:02):
and it will then send you encouraging messages tailored to
your personal algorithm.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's always on. It's an AI powered friend.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But now we're seeing images go viral all over social
media of people spray painting, vandalizing things with slogans like
quote get real friends, and quote stop profiting off of loneliness.
But Avi Schiffman, the creator, seems to believe that all
press is good press, and they push forward with this concept.
(03:37):
It's not yet available, but it will be soon.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Both, Look, it's not for me, and there's something swarmy
about it, But I think it's a brilliant idea from
a marketing standpoint where there's not a lot of overhead.
You create the pendant, which obviously is more than one
hundred percent markup at one hundred and twenty nine dollars,
and it's providing AI. So that's technology that you're not
(04:04):
really paying for after a certain point, and it's just
going to bring in mostly revenue. The upfront cost is
probably in the R and D, the research and the development,
but after it gets going, it's probably a cash cow
waiting to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It is, and that's what they're banking on that loneliness
will translate hello, a cash cow being a cash cow.
Speaking of loneliness. If you're lonely and you are a
person who suffers from depression or any sort of withdrawal
from society, then one of the side effects that you
might be familiar with is apparently a.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Lack of regular hygiene.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
People who experience depression say that it's hard for them
to get up and do their everyday tasks, including practicing
their hygiene.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Now on TikTok there's a new trend. There's a cow
a hell and that challenge is supposed to shed light
on depression and what people go through. And instead of
raising money, instead of dumping a bucket of ice water
over your head or planking, people are entering into this challenge.
(05:14):
It's called the twenty eight days without a Shower. What
twenty eight days without a shower.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Like the month of February without taking a shower, and
I assume that includes not taking.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
A bath, that includes any kind of bathing that would
then wash you in your entirety.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
There are people who are saying there are other ways
you can do the why the hot spots.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You can do the hot spots, but you are not
to submerge yourself or stand under anything that could potentially.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'd rather make a donation. No, I'll talk about it
on my radio show, But damn I want to take
a shower. I'm and wash my ass.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Twenty eight days, and people again are saying that this
is to call attention to what happens when people are
experienced mental health issues.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I got to ask a quick questions. So, Mark, what's
the longest you've ever gone without taking a shower, willingly
or unwillingly.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I don't have to answer that question, but I wonder
is who's the challenge for? Here? Is the challenge for
people who have to be around you, because there's really.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
No upside for people who are not involved in the challenge. No,
if I were to if I were like under house
arrest and I had to stay in my house by myself,
I could probably manage three or four days.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I mean, we went through the COVID nineteen pandemic where
we all were at home.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
For excuse me, I showered every single day during the pandemic, every.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Single day exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
And I know, again it's related to a mental health issue.
So we're not at all putting down people who experience
these sorts of effects of mental health turmoil, but to
try and raise awareness by then.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Mimicking more or less what people go through.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You can talk about it, you ain't got to do it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You don't have to do it, won't raise money.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Look, I don't need to avoid a shower for a
month to do what we're doing right now. Use our
platforms which are available to discuss it, raise awareness.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
But we don't have to go through go to those extremes.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yes, to be fair, and I'm being serious now, there
are members of my family who are veterans, and like
my brother in law, he's retired now working police department,
but he's Special Forces ranger. He's used to being in
the bush, as they say, weeks at a time. Yeah,
(07:43):
and so showering obviously became less and less important. Sure,
and a lot of people who are veterans, who have
seen actual combat, they will come back reintegrate in society
and showering is not the biggest priority. That is something
completely different. It is. But for the rest of us civilians,
(08:06):
damn it.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Take your shower, take a shower.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
On the other side, we're gonna talk about a couple,
a woman in a couple who's doing something different to
raise money in her own relationship with her spouse. And
then lastly, aging happens, but apparently if you are in
this industry, you're not supposed to age because people are
talking about it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
All of that more well, that was a great tease.
It's a Lady with mo Kelly viral though Part two
coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Now it's Tucking my Room Tiffany Live on CAMFILEA with
moo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
She'll talk about the time.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
This on social media, it's Tiffany Hubs.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Hey if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And this is part two, the conclusion of tonight's viral
load mote.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
You're married? I often, yes, I am.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
When I have these sorts of stories, I often often
throw it to you because you have longevity in the game.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You've been married for.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
A while almost ten years now.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's plenty of time to devise a chore system in
your household.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Do you have one of those?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I wouldn't say chure, but there are some expectations like
if the dishes in the sink. Just go ahead and
clean them off and put them in a dishwasher. I
will be the one who'll pull out the trash cans
and take the trash cans in, Like for example, I
pull them out on Wednesday, they pick them up. The
trash is picked up on Thursday, and I'll pull them
in when I get home from work on a Thursday night.
(09:51):
But I wouldn't say chores or there are days where
I have time, I'll pick up the dog pool in
the backyard. But that's about it.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So you get it done, is what you're.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Absolutely it needs to be done.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
It needs to be done.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Can you imagine if your wife decided to charge you
a fee for every chore that remained undone according to
her standards. Can you imagine what might that cause in
your relationship.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
More than friction? You know, because I don't know if
you know this, have a little bit of a mouth
on me, oh tiny, I suspect that if she were
to broach that, like there's a profanity jar or a
chore jar of if you don't take out the trash
or clean the dishes to your point, I'm gonna charge
you twenty five dollars like a ticket or something we
(10:38):
probably would have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, there's a Georgia woman who's going viral because she
has decided within her marriage that to keep chores balanced
in their household, she would invoice her husband every month
for the accumulation of chores that he has forgotten to do.
Her name is Jess, right, she's thirty two. Her husband's
(11:03):
name is DJ, and Jess the wife tracks husband DJ's
missed tasks on a spreadsheet. She's going old school, and
she charges get this five dollars per small slip up,
and a small slip up could be leaving the toothpaste
(11:23):
out at fifty dollars for largest slip ups, like forgetting
to bring the car seats in. They have infant children.
At first the husband DJ says he was surprised, but
now he says that it keeps the peace in their relationship.
He went on to say, she's not yelling. I just
(11:44):
pay it and that's it. I will say this. If
it works in your marriage, so be it. Let me
just give another example.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
There's some people say like the man has to provide
all this and be the sole provider. They should not
split bills, And I say, whatever works for your house.
If that works for their household, that's fine. It damn sure.
We're not working on and.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Again, it's going viral, so people are of course weighing
in like we are now, and it may very well
spur others into action. I wonder how many wives or
even husbands or spouses of any kind might implore such
a such a strategy to quote unquote keep the chores
balanced for go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
No, I'm just saying it. I hope you know who
you're married. Yeah, And I would be inclined to believe
that if this wife is proposing this or mandating this,
there are probably other similar types of expectations. I wouldn't
I don't want to say with intimacy. I'm just saying, however,
(12:48):
that house is run. She probably is the dominating personality
in the Marriica.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
She sounds sounds very fun at parties.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
It's like yeah, probably, yeah, she probably get on my frves.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Last story, something that got on my nerves personally, is
this attention being paid to athletes, I said in industries,
So now we're talking sports athletes who are aging. Aging happens,
It happens to everyone, and if you're in the public eye,
even as a sports figure. That aging is going to
(13:21):
be chronicled throughout your time, throughout your throughout your career.
And in this case, those who are being targeted are
basketball players Lebron James and Stephen Curry. They're going viral
because their hair has turned noticeably gray.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, Lebron, he colors his beard. Yeah, you know what,
I think it's a combination of we see athletes more
than ever. We see them on their social media, we
see them in their personal projects. You know, Lebron has
a television production company, He's and all sorts of things.
He has a school. We see them more than just
on the court. And there's also since players are playing longer,
(14:05):
Lebron is in his twenty third season, that will always
be a part of the conversation his age, aging and
how he looks on the court physically and also athletically.
And one other thing sports media they always have to
have something to talk about, hey do so as players
get older and their skills maybe decline or precipitously decline,
(14:29):
they're going to talk about that. And also the look.
And let's be honest, they've always made fun of Lebron
and his hairline and what he does to hide his
mail pattern baldness. That's just I'm sorry. That just comes
with the territory because we're so TV look focused. Back
in the day, you would have an NBA game like
(14:51):
one a week and maybe get your local games and
you have like the national game on Saturday. But you
didn't get to see every NBA game of every team
like they have the NBA League Pass. It's just different
now and with social media, everyone has something to say
about everything.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, and Lebron is forty forty year old's gray. Imagine
that Stephen Curry is thirty seven to be thirty eight.
That is not young. It's young ish in comparison, but
it's not young. And so all this is a hullabaloo.
People are making a lot of a lot of a
lot of it out. How am I trying to say
a lot of it when they shouldn't be. It's a
(15:26):
natural progression. But it's viral and that's why we're talking
about it, and it's tripping me up apparently, And that's
tonight's viral load. I'll see you here on Saturday from
five to seven pm for Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Yes, it's later with Moe Kelly. Caller number nine, Disney
fourpack is yours. We're are just going to get straight
to a caller number nine. Caller number nine, number nine,
You and three friends of family members could be you,
a baby, mama and your two kids, You, your wife,
your mistress and I don't know herd side dude, form
(16:07):
family four pack whatever. Your family might be going to
Disneyland or Disney California Venture. Caller number nine. The family
four pack is yours. The phones have exploded partly because
they were probably watching on YouTube and got the information advanced. Yes,
I gave them the advance hook up so they know
(16:28):
what was coming. If you're calling in right now and
the phone lines are busy, that's probably because you weren't
watching the show on YouTube. Tiffany did not give him
all the information.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
All of the information.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I told him when I was going to give it away,
I told him what caller was gonna be. See that's
what you get from not watching. Call he number nine,
and I can see twelve right now just slowly hanging
up on people. Call her number one. Click call he
number two. Click. Call he number three, I don't like you. Click.
Call he number four, you won last week? Click.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's vicious with it and fast. Oh yeah, it's sometimes
I think it's personal with Twala. I think he gets
enjoyment hanging up on people, letting them know that they
didn't win. Because they hear Twala Twalla said, kf I
and they said, did I win?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Click, It's kind of a status.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It's just it's like he's I don't know, it's just
maybe his kids made a matter or something. He just
takes it out on the callers.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
He's very efficient. Were looking at the positive way.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
He's efficient eight hundred and five to two zero, one, five,
three four. Caller number nine DK Fuel on the mo
migos chat says he was number six. Call number six.
Tommy god Loved from the momgles chat said he was
number three. So I'm just saying, the people were in
the momgles chat legitimately had a chance to win. They
(17:51):
were they were in there, they got through. That's why
you should have been people. People don't listen. They don't
they don't take the advice. I'm giving them free advice.
I gave them a back doorway in. It's coming down
to it. And I can see Tuala's like on number
eight right now. If I'm not mistaken, he's methodically moving
(18:11):
through it. Oh he's on number nine right now. Has
he found someone? Okay, well, well I know Twala has
talked to someone. And here's the spiel. He will say,
have you won anything in the last thirty days? And
some people will try to lie and they don't know.
There are ways that we can ascertain whether you won
or called recently, or you called maybe last week, or
(18:32):
name that movie called classic. It's like and they'll try
to change their voice or something, or they want to
give a different name. It's like, nah, dog, we know
who you are. We know who you are. Stop lying.
And so even though he may be on caller number nine,
I say, hey, you know he may have to let
that person go because they may not be eligible. So
(18:53):
I think, hey, Tony, does he have a winner at
this point? He's working it out. No tell us some
of Mike you's just shaking your head. Doesn't work for radio.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Oh yeah, he's taking their information right now.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Okay, so we have a winner tentatively us the family,
forepat do they sound excited. Can you ear hustle? You
hear anything? Oh, they're very excited. Yeah, why not? Yeah,
let's put them through. Who am I talking to other
than just call him winner? Is it mister Winner or
(19:24):
MS Winner? Melanie Mattson Melanie, Melanie. Aren't you wait a bitte?
Weren't you in the Momigos chat?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
See, yes, yay.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yes, I am so happy, wait bitte? And didn't you
specifically ask when we were giving away tickets? Didn't you
ask something about the contest?
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
What did you ask? I don't remember your question, but
I remember I responded to you.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
When when was it? That was a long time ago?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yeah, but you were asking like when were we going
to give the tickets away or something like that, and
I responded to you. And it's so nice to know
that someone who was watching the show on YouTube following instructions,
and you know when the call, and I told you
about when the call, I told you what number caller
we were going to be asking for. Everything was above board,
We weren't hiding anything. All you had to do was
(20:16):
log on to the chat and you did, and here
you are a winner, and I could not be more
happy for you. Congratulations.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Do you know who you wan to take?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Oh? Oh, yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Okay, that's one person. You got two more people you
can take.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
That's a's a four pack?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Oh my gosh. Yes, yes, yes, oh I have to
think about that. I don't want to say that on
the air lock yourself in. Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Let me ask you this. Does your son have a
significant other that he may want to bring.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
No, no, no, he's mentally challenged that you might say.
They used to call it something that you can't say anymore.
It started with an R.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Okay, I'll just say.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Let's just say he's with me and we haven't been
for a long time because I haven't been able to
afford it. So this is Oh my god, he's going
to be so excited. Oh that's all I want is
on a special day or what?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:26):
No, no, no, it's a family four pack that will be
given to you and we'll have someone contact you with
the parameters as far as when you can go. But
you're not locked into one day.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Oh fantastic, Oh you can't. It's made me so happy.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's all we want.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
That's all we want so much.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Mo, You're very welcome. Don't think twala, it's all men.
Don't think Twalla. I've given to all a hard time.
There's actually everything to do with Tuala because he's the
one who's choosing the phone line. So Mellie, I'm going
to put you back on hold because I know Chuala
needs to get more information from you.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Okay, thank you, And.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
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See what it pays off to get in the Migo chat.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
That's what I'm saying. I wish people would just listen
to me and take my word for it. We give
it away, freezing congratulations.
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Thank you, sank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
We'll talk soon. Okay, it's Later with Mo Kelly. We'll
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Coming up in just moments, we'll be Coast to Coast
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what's coming up on the show?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Got a great program ton I missed to Kelly. We're
going to talk about Darwin and intelligent design and then
later on ET disclosure. When will it happen?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Hello? You and me both been asking that question for years.
I hope it's within my lifetime. We've had sub level
of disclosure, but definitely not full disclosure.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
You got that right, But we'll talk about that tonight
on Coast to Coast and KFI.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I cannot wait. Thank you, sir, Talk soon, buddy. I
and I mean this with complete seriousness. I'm one of
those when I talk about UFOs and intelligent life beyond Earth,
I'm not talking about the in a conspiratorial way. I'm
I'm I've said this before, but at Bears mentioned again.
I talk about the mathematical certainty of it not just
(23:48):
being us. You know, if you think about the billions
of stars in just our galaxy, and that's not counting
the exoplanets combined with the trillions of galic seas in
the known observable universe. Mathematically, it would be impossible, whether
(24:17):
you believe in God or not, whether you believe in
just luck, that we came out of this primordial ooze
and it's just here on this one rock, which happens
to be in what they call the habitable zone, the
inhabitable zone. The math does not even support that. So
(24:41):
when I say, yes, I believe that there is intelligent
life other than on this rock. And I'm not so
sure there's even intelligent life on this rock, given what
I've been seeing on this planet for the you know,
for the better part of my adult life. Yeah, I
just talk about the math, and I think I've talked
about this with you, Mark, the Fermi paradox, where we
(25:06):
as humans and being able to look beyond the Earth,
we've only had the real technology. I'm not talking about
Copernicus and Galileo with a telescope to I'm talking about
being able to really look into the cosmos and see
on a granular level different planets and solar systems. We've
(25:30):
only been able to do that for the pa maybe
past forty fifty years.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well, Carl Sagan laid it all out way back in
the Cosmos Days about how it's nearly mathematically impossible that
there isn't some kind of advanced alien life. But we
do know that if they have the technology to get
here from wherever they came as they can obliterate us,
we better hope their patient and forgiving.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, and hopefully talking about Carl Sagan and Cosmos, which
was the basis for the movie Contact, Yeah, you could like,
and I'm taking this from the movie, hopefully they'll think
of us as like an ant hill in a positive sense,
where we're not all that important to them, and paraphrasing
as opposed to an ant hill that they would just
go ahead and step on because we're of no consequence. Look,
(26:15):
I don't know if we will ever have and I'm
not asking for some intelligent race to land on the
White House lawn. I'm not saying that, and I'm not
saying that they would be humanoid in form. Our concept
of life is very limited of what we know because
we always think from an earth bound perspective carbon based
life forms. And when I was talking about the family
(26:37):
paradox is, there could be other civilizations, but we're not
passing each other in the timeline in the larger course
of history at the same time. You know, if there
was a civilization which was beyond our reach, which existed,
let's say three thousand years ago or three million years ago,
doesn't mean that we're going to cross in the sense
(26:58):
of their technology. In our technology, we may not come
to the point where we could contact each other at
the same point in time. And to Mark's point, if
we're contacting anyone, or if anyone's come to visit us,
because we can't even get to Mars, they are vastly
superior than us, vastly in ways that we can't even comprehend.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I keep going back to the original day the Earth
stood still, and I don't think we've really changed that
much since the fifties when that came out. What did
we do in that movie? To Gort and Klattu, we
probably haven't earned the benefit of the doubt so much.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
No, we're probably very unimpressive. And you think about our technology.
We just had the we just got the ability to
fly about one hundred and ten years ago. Okay, we
haven't been in the whole technological revolution all that long.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
We haven't even been pooping indoors that long. Are you
hitting me right, any alien civilization that looks at us
has got to think, oh, infants, they barely know what
they're doing, they can barely feed themselves, and they're on
the verge of wiping out their own planet like a
bunch of morons daily.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, daily. So I don't think anyone they put us away.
I'm quite sure if there is an alien intelligent entity race,
they're probably monitoring us. They're probably aware of us in
ways that we can't even imagine. I'm probably sure that
we've been visited. Now where that is in our timeline
(28:28):
of advanced civilization or whether we're even considered advance by comparison,
who knows. But I always talk about this in a
very serious way. So, yeah, it would be ridiculous to
believe that we're the only ones in the vastness of
the universe. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being,
even if you don't believe in intelligent design, there's just
(28:50):
no way. There's no way. If you think it happened
organically on Earth, why would it not happen organically somewhere
else in this universe.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
I've never really understood the logic behind intelligent design because
it seems to me like the argument is, since we
don't understand absolutely everything right now, we throw out all
our painstakingly accumulated knowledge and just chalk it up to
supernatural stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Well, I wouldn't say supernatural. Let me make the argument
for intelligent design. I look at the complexity of life
and how it is an organism which is actively involved
in survival, repairing itself and a level of self awareness
(29:37):
and in the sense of survival. That says to me,
it is unlike anything else that we know of What
I mean by that is the intricacies of life, consciousness
to human body says to me, I don't believe it
happened by mere accident. And their levels to this. There
(29:59):
are those who believe that we were created as in God,
that there was an omniscient, omnipresent being. That's one level.
And there are those who believe that there was intelligent
design in the way that humans could create you know,
artificial life forms where it's intelligent design and we were
(30:20):
created and created with a purpose, But we're not omniscient.
You know, there's an argument that has been made that
we were created, but it wasn't from an all powerful,
all knowing being. There are different levels as far as
the whole idea of creationism, which is not necessarily biblical,
which is not necessarily supreme being.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, but you're familiar with the old Arthur C. Clark
quote that anything that looks sufficiently advanced that we don't
understand can seem like magic. I think that's kind of
what we're doing when we make these arguments.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Well, no, but if we're sufficiently advanced, think about what
we're doing with just AI and robotics in the past
twenty years. What might that look like in a thousand years,
assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves at that point.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
In a thousand we couldn't even predict We couldn't even
predict a century from that.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
But that's my point I'm saying, So, imagine a civilization
with a similar evolutionary path as humans and mastery of technology.
What it might be able to do if they just
advanced as humans did, but had an advanced civilization lifespan
of let's say, twenty thousand years, as opposed to our
(31:29):
only maybe two hundred years since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Well, I think what we all better hope is that
if there is another situation or another civilization monitoring us.
It's like Gary seven in that old Star Trek episode
where he's going to intervene before we wipe ourselves out.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
I actually think using Star Trek John Delancey, who played Q. Yeah,
in Star Trek, he had a conversation with Picard. He
was saying, like, look, in about fifty two centuries, the
human race will evolve past the level of Q. And
I understood that because who knows where we might be
(32:07):
in five thousand, two hundred years, assuming we ascend at
the same trajectory. Just I'm amazed at what humans have
been able to do in the past forty years thanks
to computers. Just computers, and I think that has exponentially
(32:27):
increased the rate of advancement.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Do you think Tillie Norwood is the apex of our civilization?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Not at all, But it's indicative of ways we can't
even conceive of where our civilization is going, in the
way that we are determined to replace ourselves on every
single level visually, you know, theoretically, cognitively, who knows where
we might be. I just just give you a round number.
If our civilization should exist in ten thousand years, there's
(32:56):
no telling what we might be capable of in ten
thousand years, and we to the Arthur C. Clark reference, who
knows what we might create.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
We're gonna have such cool be days in ten thousand years.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, I probably won't. We won't need one.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Intend now, you and Tuala and all your GI issues,
you're gonna be set.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I won't have a GI issue in ten thousand years,
I'm sure now. And I'm not gonna be one of
those who's gonna live in a cryo chamber until they
come back and figure out how to cure whatever disease
I died of, or cure old age and find the
fountain of youth.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Well, the moment tula clones made from your remains will
have the best be days.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
God willing from your lips to God say so, yes,
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