October 2, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from the AI Powered Friend.com app, and the new TikTok “28 Days Without A Shower” trend, to charging your spouse for undone chores and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
kf I AM six forty social media, Facebook, viral Load,
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viral load, the viral.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Load arliy kf I AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm Tiffany Hobbes and this is tonight's viral load. If
you're looking for a friend, there's a new app, a
new device that could possibly fit into your life as
a companion. It's not a furry friend. It's not a
digi pet to those were popular in the nineties. No,
(01:03):
this one is actually a pendant, a necklace that you
wear around your neck. You might have seen these advertisements
on the sides of buses. You might have seen them
inside of subway car subway trains. You might have seen
them on large scale billboards. It's called friend dot com
(01:23):
and the billboard itself the advertisement is very nondescript.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
There's just this.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Little kind of glowing pendant and it says friend dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's meant to draw your attention, and it has drawn
the attention of many people, and that's why we're talking
about it. In tonight's Viral load because as a counter
to what people perceive as a dystopian entrance into companionship,
people are what are they doing? They are spray painting,
(01:56):
they are graffitiing over these ads. In an effort to
try and get people to not necessarily buy into this
digital friend, it would start it by Avi Schiffman, who
is a tech founder, a tech bro who rose to
fame during the COVID nineteen pandemic as he created a
(02:17):
very popular case tracking website.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He took the funding.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That he was able to generate from that website and
also raised an additional two point five million dollars to
create this AI powered pendant, which again offers or claims
to offer you companionship by listening to your conversations and
sending you messages.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The pitch is very simple.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Loneliness is a public health crisis, and friend dot com
has a product to fix it. Just clip this one
hundred and twenty nine dollars pendant to your shirt, Let
it listen to how you interact throughout the day or night,
Be careful, and it will then send you encouraging messages
(03:06):
tailored to your personal algorithm.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's always on.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's an AI powered friend, but now we're seeing images
go viral all over social media of people spray painting,
vandalizing things with slogans like quote get real friends, and
quote stop profiting off of loneliness. But Avi Schiffman, the creator,
seems to believe that all press is good press, and
(03:33):
they push forward with this concept. It's not yet available,
but it will be soon.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
What do you think, bum, Look, it's not for me,
and there's something swarmy about it, but I think it's
a brilliant idea from a marketing standpoint where there's not
a lot of overhead. You create the pendant, which obviously
is more than one hundred percent markup at one hundred
and twenty nine dollars right, and it's providing AI. So
(04:02):
that's technology that you're not really paying for after a
certain point, and it's just going to bring in mostly revenue.
The upfront cost is probably in the R and D,
the research and the development, but after it gets going,
it's probably a cash cow waiting to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is, and that's what they're banking on that loneliness
will translate hello, a cash cow being a cash cow.
Speaking of loneliness, if you're lonely and you are a
person who suffers from depression or any sort of withdrawal
from society, that one of the side effects that you
might be familiar with is apparently a lack of regular hygiene.
(04:41):
People who experience depression say that it's hard for them
to get up and do their everyday tasks, including practicing
their hygiene.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now on TikTok, there's a new trend. There's a chow
hell and that challenge is supposed to shed light on
depression and what people go through. And instead of raising money,
instead of dumping a bucket of ice water over your
head or planking, people are entering into this challenge. It's
(05:14):
called the twenty eight days without a shower. What twenty
eight days without a shower?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Like the month of.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
February without taking a shower, and I assume that includes
not taking.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A bath, that includes any kind of bathing that would
then wash you in your entirety.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
There are people who are saying there are other ways
you can do the why the hot spots.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You can do the hot spots, but you are not
to submerge yourself or stand under anything that could potentially I'd.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Rather make a donation. No, I'll talk about it on
my radio show. But damn, I want to take a shower.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm wash my ass twenty eight days.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And people again are saying that this is to call
attention to what happens when people are experienced mental health issues.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I gotta ask some quick questions.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So, Mark, what's the longest you've ever gone without taking
a shower, willingly or unwillingly.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I don't have to answer that question, but I wonder
is who's the challenge for? Here is the challenge for
people who have to be around you, because there's really.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
No upside for people who are not involved in the challenge. No,
if I were to if I were like under house
arrest and I had to stay in my house by myself, I.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Could probably manage three or four days.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, we went through the COVID nineteen pandemic where
we all were at home.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I showered every single day during the pandemic, every.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Single day exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And I know again it's related to a mental health issue.
So we're not at all putting down people who experience
these sorts of effects of mental health turmoil, but to
try and raise awareness by then mimicking more or less
what people go through.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You can talk about it. You ain't got to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You don't have to do it raise money.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Look, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Need to avoid a shower for a month to do
what we're doing right now. Use our platforms which are
available to discuss it, raise awareness.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But we don't have to go through go to those extremes.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
To be fair, and I'm being serious now, there are
members of my family who are veterans, and like my
brother in law, he's retired now working police department, but
he's Special Forces ranger. He's used to being in the bush,
as they say, weeks at a time. Yeah, and so
(07:44):
showering obviously became less and less important. And a lot
of people who are veterans, who have seen actual combat,
they will come back, reintegrate in society and showering is
not the biggest priority.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
That is something completely different. It is.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But for the rest of us civilians, damn it, take
your shower, take a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
On the other side, we're gonna talk about a couple,
a woman in a couple who's doing something different to
raise money in her own relationship with her spouse. And
then lastly, aging happens. But apparently if you are in
this industry, you're not supposed to age because people are
talking about it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All of that more, well, that was a great tease.
It's a Lady with mo Kelly viral though, Part two
coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, it's my moment Tiffany live on Canes Lata with Mokelly.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
She'll talk about them.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
This on social media, it's Tiffany Hubbs.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hey if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I'm Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this is part two, the conclusion of tonight's viral
load mote.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You're married, I offen, Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
When I have these sorts of stories, I often often
throw it to you because you have longevity in the game.
You've been married for a while almost ten years now.
That's plenty of time to devise a chore system in
your household.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Do you have one of those?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I wouldn't say chure, but there are some expectations like
if the dishes in the sink, just go ahead and
clean them off and put them in the dishwasher. I
will be the one who will pull out the trash
cans and take the trash cans in, Like, for example,
I pull them out on Wednesday, they pick them up,
the trash picked up on Thursday, and I'll pull them
in when I get home from work on a Thursday night.
(09:51):
But I wouldn't say chores or there are days where
I have time, I'll pick up the dog pool in
the backyard. But that's about it. So you get it done,
is what you're absolutely it needs to be done. It
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Can you imagine if your wife decided to charge you
a fee for every chore that remained undone according to
her standards. Can you imagine what might that cause in
your relationship more than friction?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know, because I don't know if you know this,
have a little bit of a mouth on me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh done tiny.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So I suspect that if she were to broach that,
like there's a profanity jar or a chore jar of
if you don't take out the trash or clean the dishes.
To your point, I'm gonna charge you twenty five dollars
like a ticket or something. We probably would have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, there's a Georgia woman who's going viral because she
has decided within her marriage that to keep chores balanced
in their household, she would invoice her husband every month
for the accumulation of chores that he has forgotten to do.
Her name is Jess, right, she's thirty two. Her husband's
(11:03):
name is DJ, and Jess the wife tracks husband DJ's
missed tasks on a spreadsheet. She's going old school and
she charges get this five dollars per small slip up,
and a small slip up could be leaving the toothpaste
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out at fifty dollars for large slip ups, like forgetting
to bring the car seats in.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
They have infant children.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
At first, the husband DJ says he was surprised, but
now he says that it keeps the peace in their relationship.
He went on to say, she's not yelling. I just
pay it and that's it. I will say this. If
it works in your marriage, so be it. And let
me just give another example. There's some people say like
(11:53):
the man has to provide all this and be the
sole provider. They should not split bills, and I say,
whatever works for your house.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
If that works for their household, that's fine, it. Damn sure,
we're not working on.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And again it's going viral, so people are of course
weighing in like we are now, and it may very
well spur others into action. I wonder how many wives
or even husbands or spouses of any kind might implore
such a such a strategy to quote unquote keep the
chores balanced for go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
No, I'm just saying it. I hope you know who
you're married.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, And I would be inclined to believe that if
this wife is proposing this or mandating this, there are
probably other similar types of expectations. I wouldn't I don't
want to say with intimacy. I'm just saying, however, that
house is run. She probably is the dominating personality in
(12:55):
the Marriica. She sounds sounds very fun. At parties, she's
like yeah, probably, yeah, she probably get on my friend nerves.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Last story, something that got on my nerves personally, is
this attention being paid to athletes. I said in industries
and now we're talking sports athletes who are aging.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Aging happens.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It happens to everyone, and if you're in the public eye,
even as a sports figure, that aging is going to
be chronicled throughout your time, throughout your throughout your career,
and in this case, those who are being targeted are
basketball players Lebron James and Stephen Curry. They're going viral
because their hair has turned noticeably gray.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, Lebron, he colors his beard. Yeah, you know what,
I think it's a combination of we see athletes more
than ever. We see them on their social media, we
see them in their personal projects. You know, Lebron has
a television production company, he's and all sorts of things.
As a school, we see them more than just on
the court. And there's also since players are playing longer,
(14:05):
Lebron is in his twenty third season, that will always
be a part of the conversation, his age, aging and
how he looks on the court physically and also athletically.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
And one other thing.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Sports media they always have to have something to talk about.
So as players get older and their skills maybe decline
or precipitously decline, they're going to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And also the look.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And let's be honest, they've always made fun of Lebron
and his hairline and what he does to hide his
mail pattern baldness.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
That's just I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That just comes with the territory because we're so TV
look focused.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Back in the day, you would have.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
An NBA game like one a week and maybe get
your local games, and you have like the national game
on Saturday, but you didn't get to see every NBA
game of every team like they have the NBA League Pass.
It's just different now and with social media, everyone has
something to say about everything.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, and Lebron is forty forty year old's gray. Imagine
that Stephen Curry is thirty seven to be thirty eight.
That is not young. It's young ish in comparison, but
it's not young. And so all of this is a hullabaloo.
People are making a lot of a lot of a
lot of it out. I am I trying to say
a lot of it when they shouldn't be. It's a
(15:26):
natural progression.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But it's viral and that's why we're talking about it,
and it's tripping me up apparently.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And that's tonight's viral load.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'll see you here on Saturday from five to seven
pm for Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It's later with Moe Kelly. Caller number nine. Disney forepack
is yours. We're are just going to get straight to
a caller number nine. Caller number nine, Number nine, you
and three friends of family members could be you, a
baby mama and your two kids, You, your wife, your mistress,
and I don't know herd side dude, form family four
(16:08):
pack whatever. Your family might be going to Disneyland or
Disney California Adventure. Caller number nine. The family four pack
is yours. The phones have exploded partly because they were
probably watching on YouTube and got the information advanced. Yes,
I gave them the advance hook up so they know
(16:28):
what was coming. If you're calling in right now and
the phone lines are busy, that's probably because you weren't
watching the show on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Tiffany, didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I give them all the information, all of the information.
I told him when I was going to give it away,
I told him what caller was gonna be. See that's
what you get from not watching. Call he number nine,
and I can see twelve right now, just slowly hanging
up on people calling number one.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Click call number two, Click call her number three. I
don't like you. Click call he number four, you won
last week. Click.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He's vicious with it and fast. Oh yeah, it's sometimes
I think it's personal with Twala. I think he gets
enjoyment hanging up on people, letting them know that they
didn't win because they hear Twala Twayla said kf I
and they said, did I win?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
No Click.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's kind of a status.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
It's just it's like he's I don't know, it's just
maybe his kids made a matter or something.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
He just takes it out on the caller.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
He's very efficient. Were looking at the positive way EF
eight hundred and five to two zero one, five three four.
Caller number nine DK Fuel on the mo migles chat
says he was number six, caller number six Tommy god
loved from the momgles chat.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
So he was number three.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
So I'm just saying, the people were in the momagles
chat legitimately had a chance to win. They were, they
were in there, they got through. That's why you should
have been People people don't listen. They don't they don't
take the advice. I'm giving them free advice. I gave
them a back doorway in. It's coming down to it,
(18:05):
and I can see Twala's like on number eight right now.
If I'm not mistaken, he's methodically moving through it. Oh
he's on number nine right now. Has he found someone? Okay, well,
well I know Twala has talked to someone. And here's
the spiel. He will say, have you won anything in
the last thirty days? And some people will try to
lie and they don't know. There are ways that we
(18:27):
can ascertain whether you won or called recently, or you
call maybe last week, or name that movie called classic.
It's like and they'll try to change their voice or something,
or they want to give a different name. It's like, nah, dog,
we know who you are. We know who you are.
Stop lying. And so even though he may be on
calling number nine, I say, hey, you know he may
(18:48):
have to let that person go because they may not
be eligible. So I think, hey, Tony, does he have
a winner at this point? He's working it out. No
tell us someth Mike, you're just shaking your head. Doesn't
work for radio.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh yeah, he's taking their information right now.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Okay, so we have a winner tentatively. Yis the family? Fore?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Pat, do they sound excited? Can you ear hustle? Hear anything?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh? They're very excited. Okay, yeah, why not?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, let's put them through. Who am I talking to
other than just call him winner? Is it mister Winner
or MS Winner? Melanie Mattson Melanie, Melanie?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Aren't you wait bit? Weren't you in the momgos chat?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes? See, yes, yay.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yes, I am so happy. Wait bit?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And didn't you specifically ask when we were giving away tickets?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Didn't you ask something about the contest?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
What did you ask? I don't remember your question, but
I remember I responded to you.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
When when was it? That was a long time ago chat?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, but you were asking like when we were we
going to give the tickets away or something like that,
And I responded to you. And it's so nice to
know that someone who was watching the show on YouTube
following instructions, and you know when the call and I
told you about when the call, I told you what
number caller we were gonna be asking for.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Everything was above board. We weren't hiding anything.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
All you had to do was log on to the
chat and you did, and here you are a winner
and I could not be more happy for you.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Congratulations, Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Do you know who you will take?
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Oh? Oh, yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Okay, that's one person. You got two more people you
can take.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
That's a family four pack. There's a four pack.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Oh my gosh. Yes, yes, yes, oh, I have to
think about that. I don't want to say that on
the air lock yourself in.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yes, yes, all right, let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Does your son have a significant other that he may
want to bring.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
No, no, no, he's mentally challenged that you might say.
They used to call it something that you can't say anymore.
It started with an R.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Okay, I'll just say.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Let's just say he's with me and we haven't been
for a long time because I haven't been able to
afford it. So this is Oh my god, he's going
to be so excited. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
That's all I want.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Is on a special day or what?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No, no, no, it's a family four pack that will be
given to you and we'll have someone contact you with
the parameters as far as when you can go.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
But you're not locked into one day.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Oh fantastic, Oh you can't. It's made me so happy.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's all we want. That's all we want so much.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
MO.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
You're very welcome don't think Twala. It's all me. Don't
think Twalla. I've given to all a hard time.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's actually everything to do with Twala because he's the
one who's choosing the phone line. So Mellie, I'm going
to put you back on hold because I know Chuala
needs to get more.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Information from you.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Okay, thank you, And.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Once you go, I want you to hit us back
because you know how to reach us in the mo
Migo's chat and we would love to hear about your experience.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
See what it pays off to get in the Migo chat.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
That's what I'm saying. I wish people would just listen
to me and take my word for it. We give
it away, freezing congratulations.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
We'll talk soon. Okay, it's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
We'll check in with George Norri when we come back
and find out what's going on with Coast to Coast
a m KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Forty, KFI Later with mo Kelly Live on YouTube and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Coming up in just moments. We'll be Coast to Coast
AM with George Norri and he choice me. Now, good evening, George,
what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Got a great program tonight, missed to Kelly. We're going
to talk about Darwin and intelligent design and then later
on ET disclosure. When will it happen?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You and me both been asking that question for years.
I hope it's within my lifetime. We've had sub level
of disclosure, but definitely not full disclosure.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
You got that right, But we'll talk about that tonight
on Coast to Coast and KFI.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I cannot wait. Thank you, sir, Talk soon, buddy. I
and I mean this with complete seriousness. I'm one of
those when I talk about UFOs and intelligent life beyond Earth,
I'm not talking about the in a conspiratorial way. I'm
I'm I've said this before, but it bears mentioning again.
I talk about the mathematical certainty of it not just
(23:48):
being us.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You know, if you think about the.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The billions of stars in just our galaxy, and that's
not counting the exoplanets combined with the trillions of gala
seas in the known observable universe. Mathematically, it would be impossible,
(24:17):
whether you believe in God or not, whether you believe
in just luck that we came out of this primordial
ooze and it's just here on this one rock, which
happens to be in what they call the habitable zone,
the inhabitable zone.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
The math does not even support that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So when I say, yes, I believe that there is
intelligent life other than on this rock. And I'm not
so sure there's even intelligent life on this rock, given
what I've been seeing on this planet for the you know,
for the better part.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Of my adult life. Yeah, I just talk about the math.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And I think I've talked about this with you, Mark
the Fermi paradox, where we as humans and being able
to look beyond the Earth, we've only had the real technology.
I'm not talking about Copernicus and Galileo with a telescope
to I'm talking about being able to really look into
(25:21):
the cosmos and see on a granular level different planets
and solar systems. We've only been able to do that
for the pa maybe past forty fifty years.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, Carl Sagan laid it all out way back in
the Cosmos days about how it's nearly mathematically impossible that
there isn't some kind of advanced alien life. But we
do know that if they have the technology to get
here from wherever they came from, they can obliterate us.
We better hope their patient and forgiving.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, and hopefully talking about Carl Sagan and Cosmos, which
was the basis for the movie Contact, Yeah, you could like,
and I'm taking this from the movie, hopefully they'll think
of us as like an ant hill in a positive sense,
where we're not all that important to them in paraphrasing,
as opposed to an ant hill that they would just
go ahead and step on because we're of no consequence. Look,
(26:15):
I don't know if we will ever have and I'm
not asking for some intelligent race to land on the
White House lawn. I'm not saying that, and I'm not
saying that they would be humanoid in form. Our concept
of life is very limited of what we know because
we always think from an earth bound perspective carbon based
life forms. And when I was talking about the Family
(26:37):
paradox is, there could be other civilizations, but we're not
passing each other in the timeline in the larger course
of history.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
At the same time.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You know, if there was a civilization which was beyond
our reach, which existed, let's say, three thousand years ago
or three million years ago, doesn't mean that we're going
to cross in the sense of their technolology. In our technology,
we may not come to the point where we could
contact each other at the same point in time. And
(27:08):
to Mark's point, if we're contacting anyone, or if anyone's
come to visit us, because we can't even get to Mars,
they are vastly superior than us, vastly in ways that
we can't even comprehend.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I keep going back to the original day the Earth
stood still, and I don't think we've really changed that
much since the fifties when that came out. What did
we do in that movie? To Gort and Klattu, we
probably haven't earned the benefit of the doubt so much.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, we're probably very unimpressive. And you think about our technology.
We just had the we just got the ability to
fly about one hundred and ten years ago. Okay, we
haven't been in the whole technological revolution all that long.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We haven't even been pooping indoors that long.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Are you just kidding me?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
But any alien civilization that looks at us has got
to think, oh, well, infants, they barely know what they're doing,
they can barely feed themselves, and they're on the verge
of wiping out their own planet like a bunch of
morons daily.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, daily. So I don't think anyone it put us away.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I'm quite sure if there is an alien intelligent entity race,
they're probably monitoring us. They're probably aware of us in
ways that we can't even imagine. I'm probably sure that
we've been visited. Now where that is in our timeline
of advanced civilization, or whether we're even considered advance by comparison,
(28:33):
who knows. But I always talk about this in a
very serious way. So, yeah, it would be ridiculous to
believe that we're the only ones in the vastness of
the universe. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being,
even if you don't believe in intelligent design, there's just
no way.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
If you think that it happened organically on Earth, why
would it not happen organically somewhere else in this universe.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I've never really let me understood the logic behind intelligent
design because it seems to me like the argument is,
since we don't understand absolutely everything right now, we throw
out all our painstakingly accumulated knowledge and just chalk it
up to supernatural stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, I wouldn't say supernatural. Let me make the argument
for intelligent design. I look at the complexity of life
and how it is an organism which is actively involved
in survival, repairing itself and a level of self awareness
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and in the sense of survival. That says to me,
it is unlike anything else that we know of What
I mean by that is the intricacies of life. Consciousness
to human body says to me. I don't believe it
happened by mere accident. And there are levels to this.
(29:59):
There are those who believe that we were created as
in God, that there was an omniscient, omnipresent being.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
That's one level.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
And there are those who believe that there was intelligent
design in the way that humans could create you know,
artificial life forms where it's intelligent design and we were
created and created with a purpose.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
But we're not omniscient.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You know, there's an argument that has been made that
we were created, but it wasn't from an all powerful,
all knowing being.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There are different levels as far as the whole idea of.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Creationism, which is not necessarily biblical, which is not necessarily
supreme being.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, but you're familiar with the.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Old Arthur C. Clark quote that anything that looks sufficiently advanced
that we don't understand can seem like magic. I think
that's kind of what we're doing when we make these arguments.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, no, but if we're sufficiently advanced, think about what
we're doing with just AI and robotics in the past
twenty years. What might that look like in a thousand years,
assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves at that point.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
In a thousand we couldn't even predict. We couldn't even
predict a century from that.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
But that's my point I'm saying, So, imagine a civilization
with a similar evolutionary path as humans and mastery of technology.
What it might be able to do if they just
advanced as humans did, but had an advanced civilization lifespan
of let's say, twenty thousand years, as opposed to our
(31:29):
only maybe two hundred years since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Well, I think what we all better hope is that
if there is another situation or another civilization monitoring us.
It's like Gary seven in that old Star Trek episode
where he's going to intervene before we wipe ourselves out.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I actually think using Star Trek. John Delancy, who played
Qah in Star Trek, he had a conversation with Picard.
He was saying, like, look, in about fifty two centuries,
the human race will evolve past the level of q
And I understood that because who knows where we might
(32:06):
be in five thousand, two hundred years, assuming we ascend
at the same trajectory. Just I'm amazed at what humans
have been able to do in the past forty years
thanks to computers. Just computers, and I think that has
exponentially increased the rate of advancement.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Do you think Tillie Norwood is the apex of our civilization?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Not at all, But it's.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Indicative of ways we can't even conceive of where our
civilization is going, in the way that we are determined
to replace ourselves on every single level visually, you know, theoretically, cognitively,
who knows where we might be. I just just give
you a round number. If our civilization should exist in
(32:54):
ten thousand years, there's no telling what we might be
capable of in ten thousand years, and we to the
Arthur C. Clark reference, who knows what we might create.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
We're going to have such cool be days in ten
thousand years.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, I probably won't. We won't need one intendaight.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Now, you and Tauwala and all your GI issues, you're
gonna be set.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I won't have a GI issue in ten thousand years,
I'm sure now. And I'm not gonna be one of
those who's gonna live in a cryo chamber until they
come back and figure out how to cure whatever disease
I died of, or cure old age and find the
fountain of youth.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Well, the moment Tuola clones made from your remains will
have the best be days, God willing from your lips
to God there.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So yes, I'm a creationist. K IF I am six forty,
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm Tiffany Hobbes and this is tonight's viral load. If
you're looking for a friend, there's a new app, a
new device that could possibly fit into your life as
a companion. It's not a furry friend. It's not a
digi pet to those were popular in the nineties. No,
(01:03):
this one is actually a pendant, a necklace that you
wear around your neck. You might have seen these advertisements
on the sides of buses. You might have seen them
inside of subway car subway trains. You might have seen
them on large scale billboards. It's called friend dot com
(01:23):
and the billboard itself the advertisement is very nondescript.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
There's just this.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Little kind of glowing pendant and it says friend dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's meant to draw your attention, and it has drawn
the attention of many people, and that's why we're talking
about it. In tonight's Viral load because as a counter
to what people perceive as a dystopian entrance into companionship,
people are what are they doing? They are spray painting,
(01:56):
they are graffitiing over these ads. In an effort to
try and get people to not necessarily buy into this
digital friend, it would start it by Avi Schiffman, who
is a tech founder, a tech bro who rose to
fame during the COVID nineteen pandemic as he created a
(02:17):
very popular case tracking website.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He took the funding.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That he was able to generate from that website and
also raised an additional two point five million dollars to
create this AI powered pendant, which again offers or claims
to offer you companionship by listening to your conversations and
sending you messages.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The pitch is very simple.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Loneliness is a public health crisis, and friend dot com
has a product to fix it. Just clip this one
hundred and twenty nine dollars pendant to your shirt, Let
it listen to how you interact throughout the day or night,
Be careful, and it will then send you encouraging messages
(03:06):
tailored to your personal algorithm.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's always on.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's an AI powered friend, but now we're seeing images
go viral all over social media of people spray painting,
vandalizing things with slogans like quote get real friends, and
quote stop profiting off of loneliness. But Avi Schiffman, the creator,
seems to believe that all press is good press, and
(03:33):
they push forward with this concept. It's not yet available,
but it will be soon.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
What do you think, bum, Look, it's not for me,
and there's something swarmy about it, but I think it's
a brilliant idea from a marketing standpoint where there's not
a lot of overhead. You create the pendant, which obviously
is more than one hundred percent markup at one hundred
and twenty nine dollars right, and it's providing AI. So
(04:02):
that's technology that you're not really paying for after a
certain point, and it's just going to bring in mostly revenue.
The upfront cost is probably in the R and D,
the research and the development, but after it gets going,
it's probably a cash cow waiting to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is, and that's what they're banking on that loneliness
will translate hello, a cash cow being a cash cow.
Speaking of loneliness, if you're lonely and you are a
person who suffers from depression or any sort of withdrawal
from society, that one of the side effects that you
might be familiar with is apparently a lack of regular hygiene.
(04:41):
People who experience depression say that it's hard for them
to get up and do their everyday tasks, including practicing
their hygiene.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now on TikTok, there's a new trend. There's a chow
hell and that challenge is supposed to shed light on
depression and what people go through. And instead of raising money,
instead of dumping a bucket of ice water over your
head or planking, people are entering into this challenge. It's
(05:14):
called the twenty eight days without a shower. What twenty
eight days without a shower?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Like the month of.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
February without taking a shower, and I assume that includes
not taking.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A bath, that includes any kind of bathing that would
then wash you in your entirety.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
There are people who are saying there are other ways
you can do the why the hot spots.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You can do the hot spots, but you are not
to submerge yourself or stand under anything that could potentially I'd.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Rather make a donation. No, I'll talk about it on
my radio show. But damn, I want to take a shower.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm wash my ass twenty eight days.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And people again are saying that this is to call
attention to what happens when people are experienced mental health issues.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I gotta ask some quick questions.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So, Mark, what's the longest you've ever gone without taking
a shower, willingly or unwillingly.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I don't have to answer that question, but I wonder
is who's the challenge for? Here is the challenge for
people who have to be around you, because there's really.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
No upside for people who are not involved in the challenge. No,
if I were to if I were like under house
arrest and I had to stay in my house by myself, I.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Could probably manage three or four days.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, we went through the COVID nineteen pandemic where
we all were at home.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I showered every single day during the pandemic, every.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Single day exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And I know again it's related to a mental health issue.
So we're not at all putting down people who experience
these sorts of effects of mental health turmoil, but to
try and raise awareness by then mimicking more or less
what people go through.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You can talk about it. You ain't got to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You don't have to do it raise money.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Look, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Need to avoid a shower for a month to do
what we're doing right now. Use our platforms which are
available to discuss it, raise awareness.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But we don't have to go through go to those extremes.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
To be fair, and I'm being serious now, there are
members of my family who are veterans, and like my
brother in law, he's retired now working police department, but
he's Special Forces ranger. He's used to being in the bush,
as they say, weeks at a time. Yeah, and so
(07:44):
showering obviously became less and less important. And a lot
of people who are veterans, who have seen actual combat,
they will come back, reintegrate in society and showering is
not the biggest priority.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
That is something completely different. It is.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But for the rest of us civilians, damn it, take
your shower, take a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
On the other side, we're gonna talk about a couple,
a woman in a couple who's doing something different to
raise money in her own relationship with her spouse. And
then lastly, aging happens. But apparently if you are in
this industry, you're not supposed to age because people are
talking about it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All of that more, well, that was a great tease.
It's a Lady with mo Kelly viral though, Part two
coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, it's my moment Tiffany live on Canes Lata with Mokelly.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
She'll talk about them.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
This on social media, it's Tiffany Hubbs.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hey if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I'm Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this is part two, the conclusion of tonight's viral
load mote.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You're married, I offen, Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
When I have these sorts of stories, I often often
throw it to you because you have longevity in the game.
You've been married for a while almost ten years now.
That's plenty of time to devise a chore system in
your household.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Do you have one of those?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I wouldn't say chure, but there are some expectations like
if the dishes in the sink, just go ahead and
clean them off and put them in the dishwasher. I
will be the one who will pull out the trash
cans and take the trash cans in, Like, for example,
I pull them out on Wednesday, they pick them up,
the trash picked up on Thursday, and I'll pull them
in when I get home from work on a Thursday night.
(09:51):
But I wouldn't say chores or there are days where
I have time, I'll pick up the dog pool in
the backyard. But that's about it. So you get it done,
is what you're absolutely it needs to be done. It
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Can you imagine if your wife decided to charge you
a fee for every chore that remained undone according to
her standards. Can you imagine what might that cause in
your relationship more than friction?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know, because I don't know if you know this,
have a little bit of a mouth on me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh done tiny.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So I suspect that if she were to broach that,
like there's a profanity jar or a chore jar of
if you don't take out the trash or clean the dishes.
To your point, I'm gonna charge you twenty five dollars
like a ticket or something. We probably would have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, there's a Georgia woman who's going viral because she
has decided within her marriage that to keep chores balanced
in their household, she would invoice her husband every month
for the accumulation of chores that he has forgotten to do.
Her name is Jess, right, she's thirty two. Her husband's
(11:03):
name is DJ, and Jess the wife tracks husband DJ's
missed tasks on a spreadsheet. She's going old school and
she charges get this five dollars per small slip up,
and a small slip up could be leaving the toothpaste
(11:23):
out at fifty dollars for large slip ups, like forgetting
to bring the car seats in.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
They have infant children.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
At first, the husband DJ says he was surprised, but
now he says that it keeps the peace in their relationship.
He went on to say, she's not yelling. I just
pay it and that's it. I will say this. If
it works in your marriage, so be it. And let
me just give another example. There's some people say like
(11:53):
the man has to provide all this and be the
sole provider. They should not split bills, and I say,
whatever works for your house.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
If that works for their household, that's fine, it. Damn sure,
we're not working on.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And again it's going viral, so people are of course
weighing in like we are now, and it may very
well spur others into action. I wonder how many wives
or even husbands or spouses of any kind might implore
such a such a strategy to quote unquote keep the
chores balanced for go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
No, I'm just saying it. I hope you know who
you're married.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, And I would be inclined to believe that if
this wife is proposing this or mandating this, there are
probably other similar types of expectations. I wouldn't I don't
want to say with intimacy. I'm just saying, however, that
house is run. She probably is the dominating personality in
(12:55):
the Marriica. She sounds sounds very fun. At parties, she's
like yeah, probably, yeah, she probably get on my friend nerves.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Last story, something that got on my nerves personally, is
this attention being paid to athletes. I said in industries
and now we're talking sports athletes who are aging.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Aging happens.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It happens to everyone, and if you're in the public eye,
even as a sports figure, that aging is going to
be chronicled throughout your time, throughout your throughout your career,
and in this case, those who are being targeted are
basketball players Lebron James and Stephen Curry. They're going viral
because their hair has turned noticeably gray.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, Lebron, he colors his beard. Yeah, you know what,
I think it's a combination of we see athletes more
than ever. We see them on their social media, we
see them in their personal projects. You know, Lebron has
a television production company, he's and all sorts of things.
As a school, we see them more than just on
the court. And there's also since players are playing longer,
(14:05):
Lebron is in his twenty third season, that will always
be a part of the conversation, his age, aging and
how he looks on the court physically and also athletically.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
And one other thing.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Sports media they always have to have something to talk about.
So as players get older and their skills maybe decline
or precipitously decline, they're going to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And also the look.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And let's be honest, they've always made fun of Lebron
and his hairline and what he does to hide his
mail pattern baldness.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
That's just I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That just comes with the territory because we're so TV
look focused.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Back in the day, you would have.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
An NBA game like one a week and maybe get
your local games, and you have like the national game
on Saturday, but you didn't get to see every NBA
game of every team like they have the NBA League Pass.
It's just different now and with social media, everyone has
something to say about everything.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, and Lebron is forty forty year old's gray. Imagine
that Stephen Curry is thirty seven to be thirty eight.
That is not young. It's young ish in comparison, but
it's not young. And so all of this is a hullabaloo.
People are making a lot of a lot of a
lot of it out. I am I trying to say
a lot of it when they shouldn't be. It's a
(15:26):
natural progression.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
But it's viral and that's why we're talking about it,
and it's tripping me up apparently.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And that's tonight's viral load.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'll see you here on Saturday from five to seven
pm for Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It's later with Moe Kelly. Caller number nine. Disney forepack
is yours. We're are just going to get straight to
a caller number nine. Caller number nine, Number nine, you
and three friends of family members could be you, a
baby mama and your two kids, You, your wife, your mistress,
and I don't know herd side dude, form family four
(16:08):
pack whatever. Your family might be going to Disneyland or
Disney California Adventure. Caller number nine. The family four pack
is yours. The phones have exploded partly because they were
probably watching on YouTube and got the information advanced. Yes,
I gave them the advance hook up so they know
(16:28):
what was coming. If you're calling in right now and
the phone lines are busy, that's probably because you weren't
watching the show on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Tiffany, didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I give them all the information, all of the information.
I told him when I was going to give it away,
I told him what caller was gonna be. See that's
what you get from not watching. Call he number nine,
and I can see twelve right now, just slowly hanging
up on people calling number one.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Click call number two, Click call her number three. I
don't like you. Click call he number four, you won
last week. Click.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He's vicious with it and fast. Oh yeah, it's sometimes
I think it's personal with Twala. I think he gets
enjoyment hanging up on people, letting them know that they
didn't win because they hear Twala Twayla said kf I
and they said, did I win?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
No Click.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's kind of a status.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
It's just it's like he's I don't know, it's just
maybe his kids made a matter or something.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
He just takes it out on the caller.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
He's very efficient. Were looking at the positive way EF
eight hundred and five to two zero one, five three four.
Caller number nine DK Fuel on the mo migles chat
says he was number six, caller number six Tommy god
loved from the momgles chat.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
So he was number three.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
So I'm just saying, the people were in the momagles
chat legitimately had a chance to win. They were, they
were in there, they got through. That's why you should
have been People people don't listen. They don't they don't
take the advice. I'm giving them free advice. I gave
them a back doorway in. It's coming down to it,
(18:05):
and I can see Twala's like on number eight right now.
If I'm not mistaken, he's methodically moving through it. Oh
he's on number nine right now. Has he found someone? Okay, well,
well I know Twala has talked to someone. And here's
the spiel. He will say, have you won anything in
the last thirty days? And some people will try to
lie and they don't know. There are ways that we
(18:27):
can ascertain whether you won or called recently, or you
call maybe last week, or name that movie called classic.
It's like and they'll try to change their voice or something,
or they want to give a different name. It's like, nah, dog,
we know who you are. We know who you are.
Stop lying. And so even though he may be on
calling number nine, I say, hey, you know he may
(18:48):
have to let that person go because they may not
be eligible. So I think, hey, Tony, does he have
a winner at this point? He's working it out. No
tell us someth Mike, you're just shaking your head. Doesn't
work for radio.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh yeah, he's taking their information right now.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Okay, so we have a winner tentatively. Yis the family? Fore?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Pat, do they sound excited? Can you ear hustle? Hear anything?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh? They're very excited. Okay, yeah, why not?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, let's put them through. Who am I talking to
other than just call him winner? Is it mister Winner
or MS Winner? Melanie Mattson Melanie, Melanie?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Aren't you wait bit? Weren't you in the momgos chat?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes? See, yes, yay.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yes, I am so happy. Wait bit?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And didn't you specifically ask when we were giving away tickets?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Didn't you ask something about the contest?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
What did you ask? I don't remember your question, but
I remember I responded to you.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
When when was it? That was a long time ago chat?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, but you were asking like when we were we
going to give the tickets away or something like that,
And I responded to you. And it's so nice to
know that someone who was watching the show on YouTube
following instructions, and you know when the call and I
told you about when the call, I told you what
number caller we were gonna be asking for.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Everything was above board. We weren't hiding anything.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
All you had to do was log on to the
chat and you did, and here you are a winner
and I could not be more happy for you.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Congratulations, Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Do you know who you will take?
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Oh? Oh, yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Okay, that's one person. You got two more people you
can take.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
That's a family four pack. There's a four pack.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Oh my gosh. Yes, yes, yes, oh, I have to
think about that. I don't want to say that on
the air lock yourself in.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yes, yes, all right, let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Does your son have a significant other that he may
want to bring.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
No, no, no, he's mentally challenged that you might say.
They used to call it something that you can't say anymore.
It started with an R.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Okay, I'll just say.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Let's just say he's with me and we haven't been
for a long time because I haven't been able to
afford it. So this is Oh my god, he's going
to be so excited. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
That's all I want.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Is on a special day or what?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No, no, no, it's a family four pack that will be
given to you and we'll have someone contact you with
the parameters as far as when you can go.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
But you're not locked into one day.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Oh fantastic, Oh you can't. It's made me so happy.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's all we want. That's all we want so much.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
MO.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
You're very welcome don't think Twala. It's all me. Don't
think Twalla. I've given to all a hard time.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's actually everything to do with Twala because he's the
one who's choosing the phone line. So Mellie, I'm going
to put you back on hold because I know Chuala
needs to get more.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Information from you.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Okay, thank you, And.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Once you go, I want you to hit us back
because you know how to reach us in the mo
Migo's chat and we would love to hear about your experience.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
See what it pays off to get in the Migo chat.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
That's what I'm saying. I wish people would just listen
to me and take my word for it. We give
it away, freezing congratulations.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
We'll talk soon. Okay, it's Later with mo Kelly.
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Speaker 6 (22:54):
Coming up in just moments. We'll be Coast to Coast
AM with George Norri and he choice me. Now, good evening, George,
what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Got a great program tonight, missed to Kelly. We're going
to talk about Darwin and intelligent design and then later
on ET disclosure. When will it happen?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You and me both been asking that question for years.
I hope it's within my lifetime. We've had sub level
of disclosure, but definitely not full disclosure.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
You got that right, But we'll talk about that tonight
on Coast to Coast and KFI.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I cannot wait. Thank you, sir, Talk soon, buddy. I
and I mean this with complete seriousness. I'm one of
those when I talk about UFOs and intelligent life beyond Earth,
I'm not talking about the in a conspiratorial way. I'm
I'm I've said this before, but it bears mentioning again.
I talk about the mathematical certainty of it not just
(23:48):
being us.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
You know, if you think about the.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The billions of stars in just our galaxy, and that's
not counting the exoplanets combined with the trillions of gala
seas in the known observable universe. Mathematically, it would be impossible,
(24:17):
whether you believe in God or not, whether you believe
in just luck that we came out of this primordial
ooze and it's just here on this one rock, which
happens to be in what they call the habitable zone,
the inhabitable zone.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
The math does not even support that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So when I say, yes, I believe that there is
intelligent life other than on this rock. And I'm not
so sure there's even intelligent life on this rock, given
what I've been seeing on this planet for the you know,
for the better part.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Of my adult life. Yeah, I just talk about the math.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And I think I've talked about this with you, Mark
the Fermi paradox, where we as humans and being able
to look beyond the Earth, we've only had the real technology.
I'm not talking about Copernicus and Galileo with a telescope
to I'm talking about being able to really look into
(25:21):
the cosmos and see on a granular level different planets
and solar systems. We've only been able to do that
for the pa maybe past forty fifty years.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, Carl Sagan laid it all out way back in
the Cosmos days about how it's nearly mathematically impossible that
there isn't some kind of advanced alien life. But we
do know that if they have the technology to get
here from wherever they came from, they can obliterate us.
We better hope their patient and forgiving.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, and hopefully talking about Carl Sagan and Cosmos, which
was the basis for the movie Contact, Yeah, you could like,
and I'm taking this from the movie, hopefully they'll think
of us as like an ant hill in a positive sense,
where we're not all that important to them in paraphrasing,
as opposed to an ant hill that they would just
go ahead and step on because we're of no consequence. Look,
(26:15):
I don't know if we will ever have and I'm
not asking for some intelligent race to land on the
White House lawn. I'm not saying that, and I'm not
saying that they would be humanoid in form. Our concept
of life is very limited of what we know because
we always think from an earth bound perspective carbon based
life forms. And when I was talking about the Family
(26:37):
paradox is, there could be other civilizations, but we're not
passing each other in the timeline in the larger course
of history.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
At the same time.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You know, if there was a civilization which was beyond
our reach, which existed, let's say, three thousand years ago
or three million years ago, doesn't mean that we're going
to cross in the sense of their technolology. In our technology,
we may not come to the point where we could
contact each other at the same point in time. And
(27:08):
to Mark's point, if we're contacting anyone, or if anyone's
come to visit us, because we can't even get to Mars,
they are vastly superior than us, vastly in ways that
we can't even comprehend.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I keep going back to the original day the Earth
stood still, and I don't think we've really changed that
much since the fifties when that came out. What did
we do in that movie? To Gort and Klattu, we
probably haven't earned the benefit of the doubt so much.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, we're probably very unimpressive. And you think about our technology.
We just had the we just got the ability to
fly about one hundred and ten years ago. Okay, we
haven't been in the whole technological revolution all that long.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We haven't even been pooping indoors that long.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Are you just kidding me?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
But any alien civilization that looks at us has got
to think, oh, well, infants, they barely know what they're doing,
they can barely feed themselves, and they're on the verge
of wiping out their own planet like a bunch of
morons daily.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, daily. So I don't think anyone it put us away.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I'm quite sure if there is an alien intelligent entity race,
they're probably monitoring us. They're probably aware of us in
ways that we can't even imagine. I'm probably sure that
we've been visited. Now where that is in our timeline
of advanced civilization, or whether we're even considered advance by comparison,
(28:33):
who knows. But I always talk about this in a
very serious way. So, yeah, it would be ridiculous to
believe that we're the only ones in the vastness of
the universe. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being,
even if you don't believe in intelligent design, there's just
no way.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
If you think that it happened organically on Earth, why
would it not happen organically somewhere else in this universe.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I've never really let me understood the logic behind intelligent
design because it seems to me like the argument is,
since we don't understand absolutely everything right now, we throw
out all our painstakingly accumulated knowledge and just chalk it
up to supernatural stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, I wouldn't say supernatural. Let me make the argument
for intelligent design. I look at the complexity of life
and how it is an organism which is actively involved
in survival, repairing itself and a level of self awareness
(29:37):
and in the sense of survival. That says to me,
it is unlike anything else that we know of What
I mean by that is the intricacies of life. Consciousness
to human body says to me. I don't believe it
happened by mere accident. And there are levels to this.
(29:59):
There are those who believe that we were created as
in God, that there was an omniscient, omnipresent being.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
That's one level.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
And there are those who believe that there was intelligent
design in the way that humans could create you know,
artificial life forms where it's intelligent design and we were
created and created with a purpose.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
But we're not omniscient.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You know, there's an argument that has been made that
we were created, but it wasn't from an all powerful,
all knowing being.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There are different levels as far as the whole idea of.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Creationism, which is not necessarily biblical, which is not necessarily
supreme being.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, but you're familiar with the.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Old Arthur C. Clark quote that anything that looks sufficiently advanced
that we don't understand can seem like magic. I think
that's kind of what we're doing when we make these arguments.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, no, but if we're sufficiently advanced, think about what
we're doing with just AI and robotics in the past
twenty years. What might that look like in a thousand years,
assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves at that point.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
In a thousand we couldn't even predict. We couldn't even
predict a century from that.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
But that's my point I'm saying, So, imagine a civilization
with a similar evolutionary path as humans and mastery of technology.
What it might be able to do if they just
advanced as humans did, but had an advanced civilization lifespan
of let's say, twenty thousand years, as opposed to our
(31:29):
only maybe two hundred years since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Well, I think what we all better hope is that
if there is another situation or another civilization monitoring us.
It's like Gary seven in that old Star Trek episode
where he's going to intervene before we wipe ourselves out.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I actually think using Star Trek. John Delancy, who played
Qah in Star Trek, he had a conversation with Picard.
He was saying, like, look, in about fifty two centuries,
the human race will evolve past the level of q
And I understood that because who knows where we might
(32:06):
be in five thousand, two hundred years, assuming we ascend
at the same trajectory. Just I'm amazed at what humans
have been able to do in the past forty years
thanks to computers. Just computers, and I think that has
exponentially increased the rate of advancement.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Do you think Tillie Norwood is the apex of our civilization?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Not at all, But it's.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Indicative of ways we can't even conceive of where our
civilization is going, in the way that we are determined
to replace ourselves on every single level visually, you know, theoretically, cognitively,
who knows where we might be. I just just give
you a round number. If our civilization should exist in
(32:54):
ten thousand years, there's no telling what we might be
capable of in ten thousand years, and we to the
Arthur C. Clark reference, who knows what we might create.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
We're going to have such cool be days in ten
thousand years.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, I probably won't. We won't need one intendaight.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Now, you and Tauwala and all your GI issues, you're
gonna be set.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I won't have a GI issue in ten thousand years,
I'm sure now. And I'm not gonna be one of
those who's gonna live in a cryo chamber until they
come back and figure out how to cure whatever disease
I died of, or cure old age and find the
fountain of youth.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Well, the moment Tuola clones made from your remains will
have the best be days, God willing from your lips
to God there.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So yes, I'm a creationist. K IF I am six forty,
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