June 24, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the Weekend Box Office AND five films that Tom Cruise should have won an Academy Award for…PLUS – Thoughts on Nick Cannon being unable to name all of his children - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with Mo Kelly with live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
iHeartRadio app all over social media.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And now let's check in with what happened over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I don't get it, Twalla said he loved the movie
How To Train Your Dragon. Still number one for the
second week. It brought in another thirty six million domestically worldwide,
It's at three hundred and sixty million last week. I
was making a point and I can still make it again.
This is a very healthy summer so far for box office,
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for movie theaters, strong performances by movies which are staying
in theaters, people are seeing the movies multiple times, and
overall it's off to a great start. We're still in June,
twenty eight years later. You heard the run report and
Mark Ronner detail it was not it is it fair
(01:02):
to say it wasn't great, but it was better than
the twenty eight weeks later.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It was definitely better than twenty eight weeks later. And
I liked it a lot, and I think it's going
to be on the list of the year's best horror films.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It brought in sixty million worldwide this week, so that's
a that's not a bad start.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, not at all. It's it's going to be around
for a while. I'm hearing a lot from horror people
and normal human beings that they really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The budget was only seventy five million, so it will
eclipse that this week. And as always, horror movies by
and large do well. They don't cost a lot to make,
but you know they have a pretty good shelf life. Now, Elio,
I really didn't have any desire to see it's a
Pixar feature, but this one seems to have underperformed. It
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was only when I say only usually a Pixar movie
will be in more than four thousand theaters, this was
only in thirty seven hundred theaters. Did not see a
lot of promos for it, did not see the trailer
as much for it only brought in thirty five million
dollars worldwide, and I have to assume with a Pixar movie,
(02:08):
that's probably well under expectations. But you know, I think
I see most Pixar movies unlike Mark Ronner, because you know,
he's an adult, or that's what he claims, but Elio
its budget is set at one hundred and fifty million
dollars for thirty five million out the gate.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's not That's not a good omen at all for
that movie. It's the lowest opening ever for a Pixar movie.
There you go. That quantifies it and qualifies it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Coming in number four was Lelo and Stitch and it's
fifth week, still in the top five. It brought in
nine million this week. Overall, it's at nine hundred and
eleven million worldwide. Is trying to make it to a billion,
and that would be an incredible, incredible haul for that movie,
given it did not have those types of expectations. Coming
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in fifth this week, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, we
have another story we're going to talk about with Tom
Cruise's next segment, but it's still doing well. It brought
in another six point four million to come in fifth
this week, and it's gross more than a half a
billion worldwide. It's five hundred and forty million at this point.
So if this is going to be the true end
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of the Mission Impossible series is doing very well.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I can't remember all the other.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Budgets and also returns for the other Mission impossible movies,
but I know this is the best one probably in
a long time. And did you know that the twentieth
anniversary of Broke Back Mountain? How will you be celebrating
this mo? It came in number fourteen this week. It's
been re released in theaters. I did not know that. Yeah,
(03:50):
for Pride month. I'm guessing probably. Yeah, I think that's
a fair assumption. Yeah, Joe Random, Yeah, yeah, twentieth anniversary,
But yeah, it does make sense. And yeah, that's basically
the big takeaways from the top ten. There are other
movies like The Phoenician Scheme, which is in its fourth week.
It's still hanging around, brought in thirty two million. I
(04:11):
don't care really to see it. But the movies overall
are still doing pretty darn well. In fact, coming in
ninth this week is The Final Destination Bloodlines. Talk about horror,
it's gross two hundred and eighty million worldwide.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh that guarantees we're gonna get more of that crap.
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And speaking of horror, Sinners finally dropped out of the
top ten this week, but it's also in its tenth
week in theaters, which is a great harbinger when you
get a movie to stay in theaters ten weeks and
it's three hundred and sixty four million dollars. It's been
a very, very very healthy movie season since maybe April,
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and if you're rooting for movie theaters, you want to
see those types of numbers.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
And to your point, Moe, it's also a good I mean,
I don't know which side it's good and bad for,
but that's one of the centers. Was one of the
few movies I haven't seen available on like for streaming yet.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I think I just maybe saw it like last night.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
But normally after like two three weeks, you're already like, oh,
you can start streaming.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, we're ten weeks in. That means yeah, people are
going to see it multiple times. People are going to
see it not on the weekend but during the week
And also, and we were commenting about how nice the
traffic was driving in.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're at that point where everyone's out of school. Yep.
I noticed that today too, So it's like, this is
the best time of year for the next three months,
and then you forget and then you're like, why is
the traffic so bad today?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's okay. September, Yeah, people start trickling back.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, it's different now because with this year round schooling
and the different school districts, you're on different tracks.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're never really all out of school.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
At the same time, you'll have some kids who'd be
going back to school in August, some even in July,
depending on the school district. But it's nice to be
able to drive in this time of year and not
deal with the fullness of traffic. But that also means
you have more crumb snatchers at the movies mark, so
you'll have to stay away probably going forward.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, just following up on Sinners. Good on Ryan Kugler,
the director of that, he says he's not going to
do a sequel, no matter how much money it makes.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Thank you Ryan Kugler. Seriously, Yeah, he could. He make
goog gobs of money.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Of course, you don't always have to go back to
the well. This is really good news from somebody who
seems like an actual artist.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And I heard that he's not even going to do
a prequel slash sequel either. He's just it's just going
to be a standalone. It was that story and it's done,
and that's something I appreciate about filmmakers like a Christopher
Nolan out put Ryan Kugler in that where they have
these ideas, these event movie ideas that they're creating on
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their own, which you're not sequel dependent. You can say
what you want about Inception, but he did it and
he walked away. You can say what you want about
in Stellar, he did it and walked away. That's really
rare these days because most of these directors want to
have something they can sequelize.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, the bulk of the movie market is now remakes
and sequels. And if you want to know why more
people aren't going to the movies, it's because they're just
bored with that. Can't disagree with it. But I do
like a good sequel every now and then. Don't get
me wrong, I don't like reboots.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I do like sequels because there are some characters I
want to catch up with. There are some worlds I
wouldn't mind revisiting, But reboots not so much.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Not so much.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't want to see the same story just updated
a certain way which I already am familiar with, Like
there was no need to do a total recall reboot.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You know, I'm not sure I even bothered with that one,
even when it was free to stream, because what's the point.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's not even in the true tradition of Philip K. Dick,
which was the underlying story for it. I thought the
nineteen ninety version when Arnold Swarzdegga, was a much better
telling of that story then the one would callin Ferrell.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Uh yeah, I I couldn't see any reason to watch
it and just try making new stuff. This is the
problem because the budgets are so huge. They want a
more sure return on their investment. Spend less money on
the movie so you can take some risks from your
lips to God's eers. That's Oh, thank you for finishing that.
(08:24):
I sure where you're going to take it, Carnecian. You
knew what I was saying, now, you know I was.
I didn't know what you was talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh gosh, that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You've heard that right from your lips to God's ears,
like hopefully that happened.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, I thought you were going to turn it into
some grotesque insult.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, he's not you. I thought it was a movie line. Okay, gosh,
you think so less of me. I don't understand how
we got here.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Not really that bad, gosh, I was insult Mark but
I wouldn't insult Mark and Carnacia. Come on now six
forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. When we come back,
we're going to talk about some Tom Crouvy Tom Cruise
movies which are getting a second look given.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
His latest Oscar to talk.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, they're looking at his career again and realizing
he's not a bad actor after all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
We'll tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere on social media YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
the iHeartRadio App if you want to check out the
show live and in living color. And a few weeks ago,
we were talking about Tom Cruise and I was making
the case that he should be considered for one of
the top four categories. I'm talking about Best Actor Oscar
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and some people laugh me off. It's just like, no,
he's a stunt guy. He's not a great actor. And
I would say, like, wait a minute, wait a minute,
slow down.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Slow down.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He actually was a very good actor and now he's
done more stunts than anyone. But I thought that stunt
should be considered as part of his acting performance because
he's in character. It's one thing when you have a
stunt double doing all of your work, Yeah, then that's
separate from what you're doing. But if you're climbing on
that plane as it takes off and you're saying lines
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as the plane takes off, I think that should be
given more considerations because that is part of your actual
performance of being a secret agent. You know you're doing
far more than someone who's just memorizing lines and blocking.
I have noticed, and maybe it's confirmation biased. I'll be
the first one to say that, but I have noticed
(10:38):
more and more stories about Tom Cruise, not only the
story about him getting an honorary Oscar for the totality
of his career at the next Oscars, but more and
more people are talking out loud about actively considering Tom
Cruise for a Best Acting Oscar. In other words, they
(11:01):
would enter him and maybe he could be in the
top five or top ten however many and get a nomination.
I don't think that's out of the question. And we
were talking about the hashtag Tom Oscar for Tom Cruise
or Tom Cruise for Oscar. However you want to do it,
and I think that there is a gathering momentum for
Tom Cruise to get that consideration. And when I come
(11:22):
across a story like this on KTLA five times Tom
Cruise deserved an oscar Win, that says to me that
it's not just me talking about it. There are more
people who are thinking about Tom Cruise within those acting terms.
And if you have been a Tom Cruise fan as
long as I have, and you've seen his earlier roles,
(11:47):
you know how talented he is as an actor. I
remember the first time I saw Tom Cruise. It's a
movie called Taps with Timothy Hutton. I think was maybe
was it maybe key key for Somelyn but Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He had a smaller role in it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And it's about these teenagers who are working at a
military academy and they take over the military academy because
they were going to close it down. Highly underrated, it's
a classic, and the more I talk about it right now,
it reminds me I need to go back and rewatch it.
You get to see a super young Tom Cruise in
that you like him In that Vampire Fancy Boys movie,
(12:24):
that's the only one I actually did not like Interview
with the Vampire. I hated that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I did not like it at all, And maybe
because I'm not really particular or partial to vampire movies.
I thought it was just a little bit over the
top in that one. Yeah, it was him and Brad Pitt.
I just knows Brad Pitt and oh I thought Leo
DiCaprio never mind.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, So Taps was the movie that I saw. I
think it was like nineteen eighty three and it starred
Tom Cruise, Timothy Hutton, Sean Penn, George C. Scott, Ronnie Cox,
Beverly Hills, Cop two and one, gian Carlo Esposito.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I forgot he was in that. He was very young
and at the beginning of his career. He paid his dues.
He's been around a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, he's not one of those overnight sensations, but very quickly,
like if you go back and review the pre stunt
Tom Cruise, you realize that he's done some very stellar
work Magnolia.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That was a good one. Obviously, we know a few
good men. That's one.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think he should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
And it's been shown a lot lately. I've noticed I
keep finding it on T and T it's being played,
and if you go back and watch that interplay between
Tom Cruise and Me Moore, he does a spot on
impression of Jack Nicholson in it. It is hilarious. You
get to see that this dude is actually pretty talented
(13:48):
as an actor.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think A Few.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Good Men is turning into the Shawshank of movies that
whenever it's on, you just kind of sit there and
get wrapped up in it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh good, it's not just me too, because I know
what's coming and I want to see that damn monologue
court scene between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I want to see all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, because the way Jack Nicholson just reads everybody in
the courtroom, it's just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know if they'll actually in that movie.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know if you'll find any better Jack Nicholson
as far as a particular scene. Now, they're better movies
with Jack Nicholson, but I don't know if you'll see
a better scene with Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He's a terrific heal in that movie. Oh, he's great
either way. I don't give a damn what you think.
You're a title too, I'm sorry, I just had to
do that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Vanilla's Guy was another good Tom Cruise acting movie. And
these are movies that I think you should watch just
because if you're a fan of movies. In fact, if
you're paying attention right now, they might end up in
name that movie called classic at the end of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Hint, hint, hint. Just wanted to let you know that.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Have you reached out to Tom Cruise's people about appearing
on the show. No, I'm warming them up right now.
So you're just focused entirely on Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm focused on buttering up the Tom Cruise folks.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Take time, Okay. You just can't just reach out there.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You have to make sure that people listen to the
show and word of mouth gets back to the Cruise people. Ah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So you're being strategic, Yes I am. I'm employing George
Bush strategery. Yes, strategy and putting food on your family.
Born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Obviously, this is probably one of his best performances. I
believe that he was underappreciated in it, and people forget
that he is a fantastic actor, but he when he
was playing ron Kovid, maybe because he was overshadowed by
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just being in an Oliver Stone movie, or maybe people
did not take him seriously. But if you may remember,
the best Oscar went to Daniel day Lewis for My
Left Foot. I just don't see I don't understand that
how that happened that year. And that was the problem
with the oscars because they oftentimes don't have a real
(16:00):
sense of the movies which have broken through and have
a lasting impact in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Born of the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Absolutely, my left Foot nobody cares about.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Not then or now.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Well, there's a politically incorrect way that I will not
get into to describe how people figured that voting went
in the Academy over decades.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But no, to answer your question.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And also Jerry Jerry McGuire, that's another one where people
keep overlooking Tom Cruise as an actor, when if you
go back and just watch his performances in his movies,
he is always undersold but is a talented, talented actor
who has never had to rely on stunts.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
He's done stunts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But he's never had to rely And when do you
go back to the firm when opposite Gene Hackman, here
a great performance of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
He just didn't get the credit trans your honor. You've
doctored the log book. Can't do yourself in your Colonel, Jesseph,
did you water the You don't have to answer that question.
I'll answer the question you want answers. I think I'm entitled.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
You want answer what the truth?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You can't handle the truth? Here it comes, son.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
We live in a world that has walls, and those
walls have to be guarded by men with guns.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Who's gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
You, Lieutenant Weinberg, I have a greater responsibility than you
can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse
the Marines. You have that luxury, You have the luxury
of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic,
probably saved lives, and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To you, saves lives.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You don't want the truth because deep down in places
you don't talk about at parties, you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
We youse words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these
words as a backbone of a life spent defending something.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You've used them as a poschline.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I have neither the time nor the information to explain
myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the
blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questioned.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The matter and which I provide it.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I would rather you just said thank you and went
on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a
weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give
a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Did you order the code writ I did the job.
Did you order the code ruler? Goddamn right, I did.
I Am six forty Nick Cannon. When we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Can if I mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's Later with mo Kelly live everywhere on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. Nick Cannon is someone that I've
had I've had an issue with. I don't know him personally,
I don't think we've ever met, actually, but I have
an issue with how he carries himself and the idea
of having some twelve kids and how cavalier he is
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about having twelve kids and possibly wanting to have more.
And I was talking about earlier in the show about
every time I open up this mic and everything I do.
I'm very conscious of what I put out there. Either
I can confirm or debunk a stereotype. Very particular about that.
So when you see me, you will never see me
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without a belt. My pants are not going to be sagging.
You know, you're not going to see me engaging behavior
which is going to be indicative of any type of stereotype.
That's never not at all, because I know that people
will make their judgments on what they see from people
who are working in the public eye.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Do I have a profile if Nick Cannon? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But I do know being on KFI, some people will
take their cues as far as African Americans and who
we are by things I say. What we do is
because I am an entry point and I'm a firm
believer of being an ambassador everywhere I go. So if
you see me in a KFI event, I'm always dressed
always because that's the way I'm going to present myself.
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When I leave the house, I always have an undershirt on.
If you're looking at YouTube, you can see it right now.
There's something that was instilled with me very young. I
always have a belt. I'm always presentable ninety nine times
out of one hundred, you're only going to see me
in a collared shirt. I don't do the T shirt
thing when I'm at work. That's how I present myself.
And I say that to say, Nick Cannon is none
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of those things. None of them.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And each time I come across a moment which he
can't even name all twelve of his children.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It reminds me, and hopefully it reminds anyone else who
may idolize or admire him, that fatherhood is not about
being able to only financially provide for a child. Fatherhood
is about being present. My father was ever present. He
was there to help me with my homework. He was
there as the flag football coach, the basketball coach. He
(21:27):
was there pitching me baseballs in the backyard. He was
there teaching me music. He was there to counsel me.
He was there to chasen me and also financially provide.
Nick Cannon, he may be very wealthy, and he may
be able to financially provide for his many children, but
he obviously can't be there for them. And if you
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struggle to remember the names of all your children, then
clearly you're not being a provider.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In the emotional sense being present.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
There are not enough hours in a day for him
to do his jobs, bring home the bacon, as they say,
and also spend time with his many children, which vary
in age ranges. And I think that you're cheating your children.
You're robbing them of the opportunity to have a particular
personal relationship with their own father. And someone who has
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had a father who passed on and very very appreciative
of our relationship, I can say firsthand I know what
it's like to have a good father and how important
it is to have a father in a child's life.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
This is Nick.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Cannon over the weekend on the Bobby Althoss, The Really
Good Podcast. And of course whenever he goes on a podcast,
nine times out of ten they will ask him.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Can you name all twelve of your children?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So if Nick Cannon wasn't good at it five months ago,
he should be good at it now, you would think,
because he gets the same damn question over and over again.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well this was this past weekend. Uh, let's see how
it turned out. What are their names?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I just told you, you told me one?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You want?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You want all twelve?
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Twelve names?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
All right? This is where I usually get in trouble
because you don't know them. I know all of them.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
But like when you're labeled, like, can you label or
just rattle off twelve of anything?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Can you name twelve states?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
They're not like something personal to me though?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Okay, can you see exactly? Okay, name twelve? What do
you have twelve of?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Can you do?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
You have twelve tattoos?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
That's I don't even have twelve tattoos.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You have more kids than I have tattoos?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
All right, here we go, I'll label off for you. See,
let's keep me, keep me on it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
There's rock Row, Golden, Powerful, Rise, ONYX, Legendary, Zion, zillion
Zen and you see this is where I.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Damn, I mean you're missing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm missing too.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
And then I would say, oh yeah, did I say beautiful?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Did I say there's beautiful?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And then there would be halo, miamis there?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
You go? You?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I feel like to be so cavalier almost did it? Yeah?
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And uh, Nick Cannon is doing all the things that
I wish he would not do. And I'm trying to
do something so people don't look at specifically African American
men in.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A certain way. Do you think Elon Musk can name
all of his thank you for making that point.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Unfortunately, the same social stigma is not going to be
attached to Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
He's held to a different standard, right And even though
his kids are Nevada, Vivian, griff Kai, Saxon, Damien. And
here's where they get funny. X A EA twelve, that's
the one I remember, you can't pronounce them o x
ae A twelve. That's a child abuse lawsuit waiting to
happen right there. Exa Strider, Azure techno, he named a
(25:19):
kid technoow Arcadia, selden Lysergis and Romulus.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And we know that Elon Musk is a very busy
man himself. Between SpaceX and Tesla, I don't know how
much time he spends with his children.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Or generating them, right right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know if it's a turkey baster or he's
actually present for the actual act. I don't know, But
I do know he's not brought up in the same
conversation or its frequently in conversation about how many children
he has or perceived the same way as a Nick Cannon,
And I think they should be perceived the same way,
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because what I would call negligence and the arrogance are
the same in that regard.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
You heard Nick Cannon how he's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He doesn't take it, he doesn't take it seriously, and
that's something I would take very seriously. So but to
answer your point, Mark, and it's a great one, the
same social stigma is not attached. I can't say it's
not fair, but always say it may not be fair,
but it's a fact. I just need Nick Cannon to
do better, not for me, because other people will look
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at him and ascribe what he does to other people
who look like him, and we could do better than that.
Can if I am six forty, want to check in
with George norin just a moment, find out what he's
going to be talking about, and also have my final thought,
and it's connected to the events of today. What has
happened with a supposed supposed ceasefire. Their conflicting reports, so
(26:53):
I'm gonna have to navigate that with incomplete information.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
KFI AM six forties Later with mo Kelly it's time
to check in with George Norroy Coast to Coast, Am George,
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
How was your weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Great weekend, Moe, and it's ready to roll here for
another great weekend?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
KFI. How you been not too bad?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But weekend was full and full of stuff. It felt
like I didn't have a weekend. But you know, I
had a good day today, so it balanced out.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's been hot lately, Yes, it has been, That's what
I hear.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Really hot in Saint Louis's days humid too. But we're
going to have on the show tonight. We're going to
talk about artificial intelligence and what it all means to us,
and then Kim trails what are they doing Coast to Coast?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Look, I wish you had the answer for AI, because
I surely do not.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Are you scared of it?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But I think it's going to take us places that
even we don't even know at this point.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
It's going to replace a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I was trying to tell Mark Ronnad that he didn't
want to believe me.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I think you'd be crazy not to be scared of it.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Is that real or you AI?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay? Point by George.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Let me get serious for one, because I want to
talk about the latest as far as the US, Israel
and Iran. But I will say this, I don't know
why we and I mean we as a country are
always in a rush. We didn't get here overnight in
regard to Iran, and the final result won't be revealed today,
this week, or this year.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
As of this.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Moment, there is supposedly a ceasefire, only announced by President
Trump and neither confirmed by Israel nor Iran, and there
have been some conflicting reports of even other missiles fired.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So we would have just taken it for what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And let's say for the sake of argument, there is
a ceasefire in place. A ceasefire is always continuous and delicate.
Iran may not break it, but one of its proxies
like Hamas, may not honor it or has Belah. Foreign policy,
though by social media, is not a thing, it really isn't,
and negotiations, true negotiations take time, often months. Last week,
(29:11):
our president was demanding quote unquote unconditional surrender. Today he
literally said, quote God bless Herron close quote that's a
wild swing of the pendulum, meaning all this could change
at a moment's notice. For something that has been baking
since nineteen seventy nine. We keep hearing that date nineteen
(29:31):
seventy nine. President Trump has said that Iron's nuclear capabilities
have been quote obliterated historically. That isn't how missile strikes
or attacks a work. But let's say that's true, there's
nothing left to negotiate, you know, threat neutralize, one would think.
Don't be surprised though, if we found out later that
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Iran actually didn't keep all of its facile material in
one place, or that they might have moved it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
It'd be pretty dumb all in one place.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Right, So I think it's willing to I wanted to
believe that it might have been moved because everybody knew
it was a target, and there's no need then to
rush and declare victory. I always try to err on
the side of caution. There's no microwave version of baking
this cake. Israel as it stands, wants Iran to forego
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all nuclear enrichment capabilities going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Do you think this regime will go for that? I
don't think so.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
To my last point, why would Iran need to agree
to that? If it in fact, has been obliterated. I'm
just asking questions because Rome wasn't built in a day,
and Iran's hatred for Israel and the US did not
end in a day. But if there's going to be
some modern agreement, Iran has to get something, If they're
going to give up some measure of everything, whatever that is,
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they need to get something.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Again.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
This is all assuming the other bad act in the
region don't interfere. This is assuming Iran wants peace with Israel.
That's a big assumption, and Israel wants peace with Iran.
Another big assumption. Iran doesn't go from wanting to annihilate
Israel on Thursday to willing to negotiate in good faith
on Monday. I know, I know, call me Debbie Downer,
but I remember the Israel slash Egypt peace Treaty of
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nineteen seventy nine. There's that year again. Nineteen seventy nine,
Egypt at Israel signed a treaty to normalize relations, making
Egypt the first Middle Eastern country to recognize Israel, and,
according to some historians, gave momentum to the coming Iranian
Iranian Revolution. Later that year nineteen seventy nine, the same
(31:42):
revolution which led to the Muslim theocratic state we're dealing
with today.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
All of that was a form of blowback.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
All of this is very complex and it's not something
a post on social media can dictate. The Muslim nations
today largely considered the treaty a stab in the back
to them by allowing more interference from the US and
support of Israel. Sounds like the past is happening again.
Sounds like history is repeating itself.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Because of that treaty, we've been dealing with the instability
and hostility ever since. After a Middle East peace treaty,
all of this was set into motion. Al Qaeda rose
out of our involvement in Kuwait ninety one. That didn't
come back around until nine to eleven. We went into
Afghanistan in two thousand and one. The Taliban was in control.
Then we left in twenty twenty one. Say it with me,
(32:32):
the Taliban is still in control. There is Afghanistan any
better today after the Afghanistan Peace Agreement of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I can't find a lot of believers. The point is.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Peace is always a noble goal, but the unattended, unintended
consequences are always there. Forced regime change isn't often the
magic pill many think it is, and beyond getting to
the actual agreement, all sides have to actually honor it
means not pulling out of it three years later like
we did with the JCPOA the Iran deal. That means
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not tearing up NAFTA, renegotiating it, and then tearing it
up again. America's word has to mean something too, or
the other parties have no reason to negotiate in good
faith or even under the deal after the fact. So
stop being in such a rush to declare victory. When
it comes to the Middle East. It may not be
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even before the end of the Trump presidency will we
get a real sense of whether this moment means something,
means nothing, or means everything, because whatever happens between the US, Israel,
and Iran will still have a ripple effect throughout the
Middle East, and that will be beyond the control of
what any president posts on social media.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For KF I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with Mo Kelly with live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
And now let's check in with what happened over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I don't get it, Twalla said he loved the movie
How To Train Your Dragon. Still number one for the
second week. It brought in another thirty six million domestically worldwide,
It's at three hundred and sixty million last week. I
was making a point and I can still make it again.
This is a very healthy summer so far for box office,
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for movie theaters, strong performances by movies which are staying
in theaters, people are seeing the movies multiple times, and
overall it's off to a great start. We're still in June,
twenty eight years later. You heard the run report and
Mark Ronner detail it was not it is it fair
(01:02):
to say it wasn't great, but it was better than
the twenty eight weeks later.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It was definitely better than twenty eight weeks later. And
I liked it a lot, and I think it's going
to be on the list of the year's best horror films.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It brought in sixty million worldwide this week, so that's
a that's not a bad start.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, not at all. It's it's going to be around
for a while. I'm hearing a lot from horror people
and normal human beings that they really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The budget was only seventy five million, so it will
eclipse that this week. And as always, horror movies by
and large do well. They don't cost a lot to make,
but you know they have a pretty good shelf life. Now, Elio,
I really didn't have any desire to see it's a
Pixar feature, but this one seems to have underperformed. It
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was only when I say only usually a Pixar movie
will be in more than four thousand theaters, this was
only in thirty seven hundred theaters. Did not see a
lot of promos for it, did not see the trailer
as much for it only brought in thirty five million
dollars worldwide, and I have to assume with a Pixar movie,
(02:08):
that's probably well under expectations. But you know, I think
I see most Pixar movies unlike Mark Ronner, because you know,
he's an adult, or that's what he claims, but Elio
its budget is set at one hundred and fifty million
dollars for thirty five million out the gate.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's not That's not a good omen at all for
that movie. It's the lowest opening ever for a Pixar movie.
There you go. That quantifies it and qualifies it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Coming in number four was Lelo and Stitch and it's
fifth week, still in the top five. It brought in
nine million this week. Overall, it's at nine hundred and
eleven million worldwide. Is trying to make it to a billion,
and that would be an incredible, incredible haul for that movie,
given it did not have those types of expectations. Coming
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in fifth this week, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, we
have another story we're going to talk about with Tom
Cruise's next segment, but it's still doing well. It brought
in another six point four million to come in fifth
this week, and it's gross more than a half a
billion worldwide. It's five hundred and forty million at this point.
So if this is going to be the true end
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of the Mission Impossible series is doing very well.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I can't remember all the other.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Budgets and also returns for the other Mission impossible movies,
but I know this is the best one probably in
a long time. And did you know that the twentieth
anniversary of Broke Back Mountain? How will you be celebrating
this mo? It came in number fourteen this week. It's
been re released in theaters. I did not know that. Yeah,
(03:50):
for Pride month. I'm guessing probably. Yeah, I think that's
a fair assumption. Yeah, Joe Random, Yeah, yeah, twentieth anniversary,
But yeah, it does make sense. And yeah, that's basically
the big takeaways from the top ten. There are other
movies like The Phoenician Scheme, which is in its fourth week.
It's still hanging around, brought in thirty two million. I
(04:11):
don't care really to see it. But the movies overall
are still doing pretty darn well. In fact, coming in
ninth this week is The Final Destination Bloodlines. Talk about horror,
it's gross two hundred and eighty million worldwide.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh that guarantees we're gonna get more of that crap.
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And speaking of horror, Sinners finally dropped out of the
top ten this week, but it's also in its tenth
week in theaters, which is a great harbinger when you
get a movie to stay in theaters ten weeks and
it's three hundred and sixty four million dollars. It's been
a very, very very healthy movie season since maybe April,
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and if you're rooting for movie theaters, you want to
see those types of numbers.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
And to your point, Moe, it's also a good I mean,
I don't know which side it's good and bad for,
but that's one of the centers. Was one of the
few movies I haven't seen available on like for streaming yet.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I think I just maybe saw it like last night.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
But normally after like two three weeks, you're already like, oh,
you can start streaming.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, we're ten weeks in. That means yeah, people are
going to see it multiple times. People are going to
see it not on the weekend but during the week
And also, and we were commenting about how nice the
traffic was driving in.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We're at that point where everyone's out of school. Yep.
I noticed that today too, So it's like, this is
the best time of year for the next three months,
and then you forget and then you're like, why is
the traffic so bad today?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's okay. September, Yeah, people start trickling back.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, it's different now because with this year round schooling
and the different school districts, you're on different tracks.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're never really all out of school.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
At the same time, you'll have some kids who'd be
going back to school in August, some even in July,
depending on the school district. But it's nice to be
able to drive in this time of year and not
deal with the fullness of traffic. But that also means
you have more crumb snatchers at the movies mark, so
you'll have to stay away probably going forward.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, just following up on Sinners. Good on Ryan Kugler,
the director of that, he says he's not going to
do a sequel, no matter how much money it makes.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Thank you Ryan Kugler. Seriously, Yeah, he could. He make
goog gobs of money.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Of course, you don't always have to go back to
the well. This is really good news from somebody who
seems like an actual artist.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And I heard that he's not even going to do
a prequel slash sequel either. He's just it's just going
to be a standalone. It was that story and it's done,
and that's something I appreciate about filmmakers like a Christopher
Nolan out put Ryan Kugler in that where they have
these ideas, these event movie ideas that they're creating on
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their own, which you're not sequel dependent. You can say
what you want about Inception, but he did it and
he walked away. You can say what you want about
in Stellar, he did it and walked away. That's really
rare these days because most of these directors want to
have something they can sequelize.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, the bulk of the movie market is now remakes
and sequels. And if you want to know why more
people aren't going to the movies, it's because they're just
bored with that. Can't disagree with it. But I do
like a good sequel every now and then. Don't get
me wrong, I don't like reboots.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I do like sequels because there are some characters I
want to catch up with. There are some worlds I
wouldn't mind revisiting, But reboots not so much.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Not so much.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't want to see the same story just updated
a certain way which I already am familiar with, Like
there was no need to do a total recall reboot.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You know, I'm not sure I even bothered with that one,
even when it was free to stream, because what's the point.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's not even in the true tradition of Philip K. Dick,
which was the underlying story for it. I thought the
nineteen ninety version when Arnold Swarzdegga, was a much better
telling of that story then the one would callin Ferrell.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Uh yeah, I I couldn't see any reason to watch
it and just try making new stuff. This is the
problem because the budgets are so huge. They want a
more sure return on their investment. Spend less money on
the movie so you can take some risks from your
lips to God's eers. That's Oh, thank you for finishing that.
(08:24):
I sure where you're going to take it, Carnecian. You
knew what I was saying, now, you know I was.
I didn't know what you was talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh gosh, that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You've heard that right from your lips to God's ears,
like hopefully that happened.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, I thought you were going to turn it into
some grotesque insult.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, he's not you. I thought it was a movie line. Okay, gosh,
you think so less of me. I don't understand how
we got here.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Not really that bad, gosh, I was insult Mark but
I wouldn't insult Mark and Carnacia. Come on now six
forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. When we come back,
we're going to talk about some Tom Crouvy Tom Cruise
movies which are getting a second look given.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
His latest Oscar to talk.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, they're looking at his career again and realizing
he's not a bad actor after all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
We'll tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (09:26):
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere on social media YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
the iHeartRadio App if you want to check out the
show live and in living color. And a few weeks ago,
we were talking about Tom Cruise and I was making
the case that he should be considered for one of
the top four categories. I'm talking about Best Actor Oscar
(09:47):
and some people laugh me off. It's just like, no,
he's a stunt guy. He's not a great actor. And
I would say, like, wait a minute, wait a minute,
slow down.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Slow down.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He actually was a very good actor and now he's
done more stunts than anyone. But I thought that stunt
should be considered as part of his acting performance because
he's in character. It's one thing when you have a
stunt double doing all of your work, Yeah, then that's
separate from what you're doing. But if you're climbing on
that plane as it takes off and you're saying lines
(10:18):
as the plane takes off, I think that should be
given more considerations because that is part of your actual
performance of being a secret agent. You know you're doing
far more than someone who's just memorizing lines and blocking.
I have noticed, and maybe it's confirmation biased. I'll be
the first one to say that, but I have noticed
(10:38):
more and more stories about Tom Cruise, not only the
story about him getting an honorary Oscar for the totality
of his career at the next Oscars, but more and
more people are talking out loud about actively considering Tom
Cruise for a Best Acting Oscar. In other words, they
(11:01):
would enter him and maybe he could be in the
top five or top ten however many and get a nomination.
I don't think that's out of the question. And we
were talking about the hashtag Tom Oscar for Tom Cruise
or Tom Cruise for Oscar. However you want to do it,
and I think that there is a gathering momentum for
Tom Cruise to get that consideration. And when I come
(11:22):
across a story like this on KTLA five times Tom
Cruise deserved an oscar Win, that says to me that
it's not just me talking about it. There are more
people who are thinking about Tom Cruise within those acting terms.
And if you have been a Tom Cruise fan as
long as I have, and you've seen his earlier roles,
(11:47):
you know how talented he is as an actor. I
remember the first time I saw Tom Cruise. It's a
movie called Taps with Timothy Hutton. I think was maybe
was it maybe key key for Somelyn but Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He had a smaller role in it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And it's about these teenagers who are working at a
military academy and they take over the military academy because
they were going to close it down. Highly underrated, it's
a classic, and the more I talk about it right now,
it reminds me I need to go back and rewatch it.
You get to see a super young Tom Cruise in
that you like him In that Vampire Fancy Boys movie,
(12:24):
that's the only one I actually did not like Interview
with the Vampire. I hated that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I did not like it at all, And maybe
because I'm not really particular or partial to vampire movies.
I thought it was just a little bit over the
top in that one. Yeah, it was him and Brad Pitt.
I just knows Brad Pitt and oh I thought Leo
DiCaprio never mind.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, So Taps was the movie that I saw. I
think it was like nineteen eighty three and it starred
Tom Cruise, Timothy Hutton, Sean Penn, George C. Scott, Ronnie Cox,
Beverly Hills, Cop two and one, gian Carlo Esposito.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I forgot he was in that. He was very young
and at the beginning of his career. He paid his dues.
He's been around a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, he's not one of those overnight sensations, but very quickly,
like if you go back and review the pre stunt
Tom Cruise, you realize that he's done some very stellar
work Magnolia.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That was a good one. Obviously, we know a few
good men. That's one.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think he should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
And it's been shown a lot lately. I've noticed I
keep finding it on T and T it's being played,
and if you go back and watch that interplay between
Tom Cruise and Me Moore, he does a spot on
impression of Jack Nicholson in it. It is hilarious. You
get to see that this dude is actually pretty talented
(13:48):
as an actor.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think A Few.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Good Men is turning into the Shawshank of movies that
whenever it's on, you just kind of sit there and
get wrapped up in it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh good, it's not just me too, because I know
what's coming and I want to see that damn monologue
court scene between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I want to see all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, because the way Jack Nicholson just reads everybody in
the courtroom, it's just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know if they'll actually in that movie.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know if you'll find any better Jack Nicholson
as far as a particular scene. Now, they're better movies
with Jack Nicholson, but I don't know if you'll see
a better scene with Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He's a terrific heal in that movie. Oh, he's great
either way. I don't give a damn what you think.
You're a title too, I'm sorry, I just had to
do that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Vanilla's Guy was another good Tom Cruise acting movie. And
these are movies that I think you should watch just
because if you're a fan of movies. In fact, if
you're paying attention right now, they might end up in
name that movie called classic at the end of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Hint, hint, hint. Just wanted to let you know that.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Have you reached out to Tom Cruise's people about appearing
on the show. No, I'm warming them up right now.
So you're just focused entirely on Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm focused on buttering up the Tom Cruise folks.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Take time, Okay. You just can't just reach out there.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You have to make sure that people listen to the
show and word of mouth gets back to the Cruise people. Ah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So you're being strategic, Yes I am. I'm employing George
Bush strategery. Yes, strategy and putting food on your family.
Born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Obviously, this is probably one of his best performances. I
believe that he was underappreciated in it, and people forget
that he is a fantastic actor, but he when he
was playing ron Kovid, maybe because he was overshadowed by
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just being in an Oliver Stone movie, or maybe people
did not take him seriously. But if you may remember,
the best Oscar went to Daniel day Lewis for My
Left Foot. I just don't see I don't understand that
how that happened that year. And that was the problem
with the oscars because they oftentimes don't have a real
(16:00):
sense of the movies which have broken through and have
a lasting impact in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Born of the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Absolutely, my left Foot nobody cares about.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Not then or now.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Well, there's a politically incorrect way that I will not
get into to describe how people figured that voting went
in the Academy over decades.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But no, to answer your question.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And also Jerry Jerry McGuire, that's another one where people
keep overlooking Tom Cruise as an actor, when if you
go back and just watch his performances in his movies,
he is always undersold but is a talented, talented actor
who has never had to rely on stunts.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
He's done stunts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But he's never had to rely And when do you
go back to the firm when opposite Gene Hackman, here
a great performance of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
He just didn't get the credit trans your honor. You've
doctored the log book. Can't do yourself in your Colonel, Jesseph,
did you water the You don't have to answer that question.
I'll answer the question you want answers. I think I'm entitled.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
You want answer what the truth?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You can't handle the truth? Here it comes, son.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
We live in a world that has walls, and those
walls have to be guarded by men with guns.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Who's gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
You, Lieutenant Weinberg, I have a greater responsibility than you
can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse
the Marines. You have that luxury, You have the luxury
of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic,
probably saved lives, and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To you, saves lives.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You don't want the truth because deep down in places
you don't talk about at parties, you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
We youse words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these
words as a backbone of a life spent defending something.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You've used them as a poschline.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I have neither the time nor the information to explain
myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the
blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questioned.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The matter and which I provide it.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I would rather you just said thank you and went
on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a
weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give
a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Did you order the code writ I did the job.
Did you order the code ruler? Goddamn right, I did.
I Am six forty Nick Cannon. When we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Can if I mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's Later with mo Kelly live everywhere on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. Nick Cannon is someone that I've
had I've had an issue with. I don't know him personally,
I don't think we've ever met, actually, but I have
an issue with how he carries himself and the idea
of having some twelve kids and how cavalier he is
(19:29):
about having twelve kids and possibly wanting to have more.
And I was talking about earlier in the show about
every time I open up this mic and everything I do.
I'm very conscious of what I put out there. Either
I can confirm or debunk a stereotype. Very particular about that.
So when you see me, you will never see me
(19:51):
without a belt. My pants are not going to be sagging.
You know, you're not going to see me engaging behavior
which is going to be indicative of any type of stereotype.
That's never not at all, because I know that people
will make their judgments on what they see from people
who are working in the public eye.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Do I have a profile if Nick Cannon? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But I do know being on KFI, some people will
take their cues as far as African Americans and who
we are by things I say. What we do is
because I am an entry point and I'm a firm
believer of being an ambassador everywhere I go. So if
you see me in a KFI event, I'm always dressed
always because that's the way I'm going to present myself.
(20:33):
When I leave the house, I always have an undershirt on.
If you're looking at YouTube, you can see it right now.
There's something that was instilled with me very young. I
always have a belt. I'm always presentable ninety nine times
out of one hundred, you're only going to see me
in a collared shirt. I don't do the T shirt
thing when I'm at work. That's how I present myself.
And I say that to say, Nick Cannon is none
(20:53):
of those things. None of them.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And each time I come across a moment which he
can't even name all twelve of his children.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It reminds me, and hopefully it reminds anyone else who
may idolize or admire him, that fatherhood is not about
being able to only financially provide for a child. Fatherhood
is about being present. My father was ever present. He
was there to help me with my homework. He was
there as the flag football coach, the basketball coach. He
(21:27):
was there pitching me baseballs in the backyard. He was
there teaching me music. He was there to counsel me.
He was there to chasen me and also financially provide.
Nick Cannon, he may be very wealthy, and he may
be able to financially provide for his many children, but
he obviously can't be there for them. And if you
(21:50):
struggle to remember the names of all your children, then
clearly you're not being a provider.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In the emotional sense being present.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
There are not enough hours in a day for him
to do his jobs, bring home the bacon, as they say,
and also spend time with his many children, which vary
in age ranges. And I think that you're cheating your children.
You're robbing them of the opportunity to have a particular
personal relationship with their own father. And someone who has
(22:21):
had a father who passed on and very very appreciative
of our relationship, I can say firsthand I know what
it's like to have a good father and how important
it is to have a father in a child's life.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
This is Nick.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Cannon over the weekend on the Bobby Althoss, The Really
Good Podcast. And of course whenever he goes on a podcast,
nine times out of ten they will ask him.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Can you name all twelve of your children?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So if Nick Cannon wasn't good at it five months ago,
he should be good at it now, you would think,
because he gets the same damn question over and over again.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well this was this past weekend. Uh, let's see how
it turned out. What are their names?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I just told you, you told me one?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You want?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You want all twelve?
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Twelve names?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
All right? This is where I usually get in trouble
because you don't know them. I know all of them.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
But like when you're labeled, like, can you label or
just rattle off twelve of anything?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Can you name twelve states?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
They're not like something personal to me though?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Okay, can you see exactly? Okay, name twelve? What do
you have twelve of?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Can you do?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
You have twelve tattoos?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
That's I don't even have twelve tattoos.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You have more kids than I have tattoos?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
All right, here we go, I'll label off for you. See,
let's keep me, keep me on it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
There's rock Row, Golden, Powerful, Rise, ONYX, Legendary, Zion, zillion
Zen and you see this is where I.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Damn, I mean you're missing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm missing too.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
And then I would say, oh yeah, did I say beautiful?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Did I say there's beautiful?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And then there would be halo, miamis there?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
You go? You?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I feel like to be so cavalier almost did it? Yeah?
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And uh, Nick Cannon is doing all the things that
I wish he would not do. And I'm trying to
do something so people don't look at specifically African American
men in.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A certain way. Do you think Elon Musk can name
all of his thank you for making that point.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Unfortunately, the same social stigma is not going to be
attached to Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
He's held to a different standard, right And even though
his kids are Nevada, Vivian, griff Kai, Saxon, Damien. And
here's where they get funny. X A EA twelve, that's
the one I remember, you can't pronounce them o x
ae A twelve. That's a child abuse lawsuit waiting to
happen right there. Exa Strider, Azure techno, he named a
(25:19):
kid technoow Arcadia, selden Lysergis and Romulus.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And we know that Elon Musk is a very busy
man himself. Between SpaceX and Tesla, I don't know how
much time he spends with his children.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Or generating them, right right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know if it's a turkey baster or he's
actually present for the actual act. I don't know, But
I do know he's not brought up in the same
conversation or its frequently in conversation about how many children
he has or perceived the same way as a Nick Cannon,
And I think they should be perceived the same way,
(26:00):
because what I would call negligence and the arrogance are
the same in that regard.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
You heard Nick Cannon how he's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He doesn't take it, he doesn't take it seriously, and
that's something I would take very seriously. So but to
answer your point, Mark, and it's a great one, the
same social stigma is not attached. I can't say it's
not fair, but always say it may not be fair,
but it's a fact. I just need Nick Cannon to
do better, not for me, because other people will look
(26:32):
at him and ascribe what he does to other people
who look like him, and we could do better than that.
Can if I am six forty, want to check in
with George norin just a moment, find out what he's
going to be talking about, and also have my final thought,
and it's connected to the events of today. What has
happened with a supposed supposed ceasefire. Their conflicting reports, so
(26:53):
I'm gonna have to navigate that with incomplete information.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
KFI AM six forties Later with mo Kelly it's time
to check in with George Norroy Coast to Coast, Am George,
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
How was your weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Great weekend, Moe, and it's ready to roll here for
another great weekend?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
KFI. How you been not too bad?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But weekend was full and full of stuff. It felt
like I didn't have a weekend. But you know, I
had a good day today, so it balanced out.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's been hot lately, Yes, it has been, That's what
I hear.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Really hot in Saint Louis's days humid too. But we're
going to have on the show tonight. We're going to
talk about artificial intelligence and what it all means to us,
and then Kim trails what are they doing Coast to Coast?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Look, I wish you had the answer for AI, because
I surely do not.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Are you scared of it?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But I think it's going to take us places that
even we don't even know at this point.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
It's going to replace a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I was trying to tell Mark Ronnad that he didn't
want to believe me.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I think you'd be crazy not to be scared of it.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Is that real or you AI?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay? Point by George.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Let me get serious for one, because I want to
talk about the latest as far as the US, Israel
and Iran. But I will say this, I don't know
why we and I mean we as a country are
always in a rush. We didn't get here overnight in
regard to Iran, and the final result won't be revealed today,
this week, or this year.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
As of this.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Moment, there is supposedly a ceasefire, only announced by President
Trump and neither confirmed by Israel nor Iran, and there
have been some conflicting reports of even other missiles fired.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So we would have just taken it for what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And let's say for the sake of argument, there is
a ceasefire in place. A ceasefire is always continuous and delicate.
Iran may not break it, but one of its proxies
like Hamas, may not honor it or has Belah. Foreign policy,
though by social media, is not a thing, it really isn't,
and negotiations, true negotiations take time, often months. Last week,
(29:11):
our president was demanding quote unquote unconditional surrender. Today he
literally said, quote God bless Herron close quote that's a
wild swing of the pendulum, meaning all this could change
at a moment's notice. For something that has been baking
since nineteen seventy nine. We keep hearing that date nineteen
(29:31):
seventy nine. President Trump has said that Iron's nuclear capabilities
have been quote obliterated historically. That isn't how missile strikes
or attacks a work. But let's say that's true, there's
nothing left to negotiate, you know, threat neutralize, one would think.
Don't be surprised though, if we found out later that
(29:52):
Iran actually didn't keep all of its facile material in
one place, or that they might have moved it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
It'd be pretty dumb all in one place.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Right, So I think it's willing to I wanted to
believe that it might have been moved because everybody knew
it was a target, and there's no need then to
rush and declare victory. I always try to err on
the side of caution. There's no microwave version of baking
this cake. Israel as it stands, wants Iran to forego
(30:23):
all nuclear enrichment capabilities going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Do you think this regime will go for that? I
don't think so.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
To my last point, why would Iran need to agree
to that? If it in fact, has been obliterated. I'm
just asking questions because Rome wasn't built in a day,
and Iran's hatred for Israel and the US did not
end in a day. But if there's going to be
some modern agreement, Iran has to get something, If they're
going to give up some measure of everything, whatever that is,
(30:55):
they need to get something.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Again.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
This is all assuming the other bad act in the
region don't interfere. This is assuming Iran wants peace with Israel.
That's a big assumption, and Israel wants peace with Iran.
Another big assumption. Iran doesn't go from wanting to annihilate
Israel on Thursday to willing to negotiate in good faith
on Monday. I know, I know, call me Debbie Downer,
but I remember the Israel slash Egypt peace Treaty of
(31:20):
nineteen seventy nine. There's that year again. Nineteen seventy nine,
Egypt at Israel signed a treaty to normalize relations, making
Egypt the first Middle Eastern country to recognize Israel, and,
according to some historians, gave momentum to the coming Iranian
Iranian Revolution. Later that year nineteen seventy nine, the same
(31:42):
revolution which led to the Muslim theocratic state we're dealing
with today.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
All of that was a form of blowback.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
All of this is very complex and it's not something
a post on social media can dictate. The Muslim nations
today largely considered the treaty a stab in the back
to them by allowing more interference from the US and
support of Israel. Sounds like the past is happening again.
Sounds like history is repeating itself.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Because of that treaty, we've been dealing with the instability
and hostility ever since. After a Middle East peace treaty,
all of this was set into motion. Al Qaeda rose
out of our involvement in Kuwait ninety one. That didn't
come back around until nine to eleven. We went into
Afghanistan in two thousand and one. The Taliban was in control.
Then we left in twenty twenty one. Say it with me,
(32:32):
the Taliban is still in control. There is Afghanistan any
better today after the Afghanistan Peace Agreement of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I can't find a lot of believers. The point is.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Peace is always a noble goal, but the unattended, unintended
consequences are always there. Forced regime change isn't often the
magic pill many think it is, and beyond getting to
the actual agreement, all sides have to actually honor it
means not pulling out of it three years later like
we did with the JCPOA the Iran deal. That means
(33:05):
not tearing up NAFTA, renegotiating it, and then tearing it
up again. America's word has to mean something too, or
the other parties have no reason to negotiate in good
faith or even under the deal after the fact. So
stop being in such a rush to declare victory. When
it comes to the Middle East. It may not be
(33:26):
even before the end of the Trump presidency will we
get a real sense of whether this moment means something,
means nothing, or means everything, because whatever happens between the US, Israel,
and Iran will still have a ripple effect throughout the
Middle East, and that will be beyond the control of
what any president posts on social media.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For KF I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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