March 14, 2025 • 21 mins
(Friday 03/14/25)
Democrats to Decide: Shutdown government or support GOP spending bill. In California, cost of undocumented healthcare is $3BIL above the budget estimate. Trump Officials release water in California that experts say will serve little use. Move over kids, Hasbro wants the adults to play.
Democrats to Decide: Shutdown government or support GOP spending bill. In California, cost of undocumented healthcare is $3BIL above the budget estimate. Trump Officials release water in California that experts say will serve little use. Move over kids, Hasbro wants the adults to play.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
KFI AM six forty Handle Morning Crew on a Foody Friday,
March fourteenth, Pie Day three fourteen, of course coming up
at I love Fridays because especially the last hour because
we have Foody Friday, which means Neil and I get
into it with food, which we do all the time anyway.
(00:26):
And then at eight thirty it is to ask handle
anything we end the show with embarrassing me.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, one of the big stories that we are covering,
and it affects every one of us, and that is
the government shutdown maybe and unless there is what's called
a stop gap bill to keep the government running because
Congress has to vote itself. The ability now it is
to borrow money because the income of the government is
(00:57):
far far less than the expenditure by the two trillion
dollars a year insane deficit anyway, so your usually there
is a stop gap bill when you're about to shut down.
The government's about to shut down, and it turns out
that Republicans and Democrats can't agree. So here's what the
Republicans did. They want a bill that extends to September,
(01:23):
allowing all the negotiations to go in for the fiscal year,
which means you're halfway.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We're halfway through this now it's a kind of October November.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, three months into the fiscal year before there is
a budget agreement. And usually what they do is they
cut a deal which continues the government with no changes.
You know, while we're figuring this that we'll leave the
government alone. All right, We'll leave the budget alone and then.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We'll figure this out. Republican are saying no. Now they
have introduced the bill.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Their bill is we'll have the stop gap bill, but
here's what we want in it. And this is where
the Democrats are going completely crazy. What it is is
it takes away a lot of governmental programs, education programs,
(02:16):
programs to various disability issues. I mean, it just goes
on and on, substance abuse treatment, international peacekeeping, the DC
budget because the federal government pays.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
For Washington d C.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And federal government in this case, because it's a Trump
government hates Washington d C. Because it is a very
liberal area and it's a city state sort of things
very unique. So in any case, here's the Democrats dilemma.
If they say no to that bill. Therefore, the government
shuts down Saturday night, shutting down meaning that only essential
(02:56):
workers are allowed to get paid, and the government can't
borrow money. And literally, if it can't borrow money to
keep on going, it doesn't keep on going. So the
Republicans say, okay, we're going to keep on going, but
this is what we want in the bill.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We want those cuts. But wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Usually you have a stopgap bill that sort of keeps
everything the same. Nope, not this time around. So now
it's up to the Senate House. It's already passed. Now
it's up to the Senate. Chuck Schumer, who is the
minority leader, said, oh, we have enough Democrats to keep
this from going forward. Well that was on Thursday, or
(03:34):
that was on Wednesday, next day Thursday. He changes his
mind because look at he calls it a Hobson's choice,
which is true. If the Democrats stop this, which they could,
if all the Democrats voted that way, then they're going
to be blamed for the shutdown. The Republicans are already saying,
we're looking at a Schumer shutdown. Now if they let
(03:58):
the government run out, where the uh, the stopgap bill
isn't passed, then what happens is that the president has
complete power to determine, for example, which employees are essential,
which employees are non essential. It gives Trump enormous more
(04:22):
power to run the government during a period in which
there is no budget. So the Democrats are looking, we
have no choice. Look what the Republicans did to us.
By the way, it's a good move on the Republicans,
very smart political move.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But they have everything.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They have the House, they have the Senate, they have
the White House, so they have a lot of power.
Obama had the same thing in his first two years.
How do you think Obamacare got passed? Well, it changes midterms.
Is it going to change midterm this thing this time?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think if there is a recession, I think if
people lose their jobs by the handful, I think if
businesses do not move in the do not move as
quickly as Trump promises, do not make as much money
where people as he said, you're going to be better off. Now,
(05:18):
there may be a slight delay. I mean he went
from day one, I'm going to change everything. We're gonna
have the best economy in the world, to now, okay,
there's going to be a period of adjustment and then.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We're going to have the greatest period in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
If none of that happens, I think the Republicans are
going to get nailed in the midterm, nailed. But for
the next two years, things like this are going to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Will fund the stop gap, We'll pass it. But here's
what we want.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And you Democrats have no choice because you're going to
get blamed for shutdown. As a matter of fact, I
think a lot of Republicans want to shut down of
the government because first of all, the Democrats get blamed.
Second of all, their president gets even more power than
he has now. By the way, that's the biggest fight
that's going on in the United States right now. This
(06:11):
is the largest number of lawsuits that have been filed
against the federal government and how to remember how many
years and it's all about the president's power.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How far does it go? Right now? Trump is not
winning a lot of it. But we'll see what the
Supreme Court has to say.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, moving on to the story of undocumented immigrants and
undocumented health care. Gavin Newsom has been very proud of
the fact that California is the first state in the
nation to offer health care to all income eligible immigrants
(06:53):
one year ago as people who don't have any money,
which is virtually all virtual the illegal immigrants. Nine point
five billion dollar price tag for state sponsored healthcare for
undocumented immigrants is not only is it expensive, it's three
billion dollars above the budget estimate and is expected to grow.
(07:15):
Now new some of the Democrats under.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Big pressure to hey, reduce that coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's just way too expensive, especially since California is under
a budget crunch right now. I mean, there's no issue
that we used to have a ton of money. We
used to have surpluses that were astronomical. Now they're going
the other way. For example, you go to Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,
pretty liberal guy. He proposed a three hundred and thirty
(07:42):
million dollar budget cut last month to stale to scale
back his expansion of healthcare coverage for undocumented illegal aliens.
So it's getting really expensive here in California and expected
to grow.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's an assembly member Carl.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Demeyo who's always on joining on John Cobot show. He's
a Republican out of San Diego.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
He says we.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Shouldn't bury these costs. Period, especially in a budget crisis.
And where are the politics here? Oh my god, this
whole issue is ridden riddled with politics. So California's position
coverage for all residents, illegal or not, we become a
state very right for conservatives. Elon Musk weighed in saying
(08:26):
that healthcare here in California is a mechanism by which
Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by essentially paying them
to come here and then turning them into voters. I
don't know how many illegal immigrants have become voters in
the last five years. None, or it's almost infinitesimal. I
(08:50):
must say Democrats are pushing hard to maximize payments to illegals.
Free luxury hotels in New York, free medical care for
illegals in California, And that's for their future voter base.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Wow, you know, I don't think that's the reason.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I do think Democrats view that healthcare should be for everybody,
illegal or not, no matter how expensive it is. And
in this day and age, you know, there's just not
a lot of money there and where do you cut?
And now here is the difference in political outlook of
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life in general? If you're a liberal Democrat you give
health care to everybody in the United States, regardless of
immigrant status.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're a conservative, you.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Don't illegals are illegals or illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants?
Is there undocumented I don't even if say, you can
say illegal undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is there any way for us to back charge or
have an agreement with Mexico?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Which or sure Mexico agree, Yeah, Mexico agrees to it,
like they're going to for sure?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Come on, yeah, yeah, you can argue that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Someone coming over the border is the money has to
be paid for any.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Health care that undocumented immigrants are voting even legally.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
No, they're not. No, they're not. There is virtually no
evidence that there is. It's the other way. Actually, you know,
the Republicans are arguing. Trump argued during the election, there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are millions and millions.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Of people who are illegal, and that's just not who voted.
That's just not true. It's simply an allegation the Democrats
want to pay for illegal immigrants medical care just to
make them voters.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Come on, I mean, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Now, they do want to pay because they believe it's
a very liberal approach that everybody, everybody gets medical care
come hell or high water, and Medicaid, particular medical which
is our version of medicaid, which gives medical care to
people that are extraordinary poor. It really goes to if
we give medical care to illegal immigrants, which we do
(11:02):
right now under Newsom's plan, it's almost every illegal immigrant.
Because illegal immigrants have no money, they do not buy
medical insurance. They just don't. And if everybody is entitled
(11:22):
to medical care notwithstanding illegal status or illegal status, you
know what that means is that proportionally illegal immigrants are
going to get far more medical care than others.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I have insurance, you have insurance.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
The illegal immigrant that's crossing the border, which is not
because Trump has successfully shut down the border, which I'm
fine with, is that person has no money.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That person walks into.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
An emergency room and has to be treated by law,
by the way has to be treated. If I walk
into an emergency room, I'm handed a bill, and I
either go to Kaiser if I go to another hospital,
they pay, Kaiser pays the bill. Who pays the bill?
When someone has no money? Virtually every illegal immigrant we're
talking about the government does, And so some states say
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illegal immigrants, too bad, You're on your own if you
have a medical issue, that's cheaper than California, which says
everybody gets medical care. Remember, used to have anchor babies.
Anchor babies were babies that were born of women who
came over the border, who illegally had the baby. Because again,
(12:39):
a baby born in the United States is of course
a citizen, notwithstanding any immigrant status of the parents. And
so what these anchor baby, how these anchor babies work
is the prospective mom would sneak over the border and
go to a hospital where she would get treatment about
one hundred times better than she ever could in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It was absolutely free, and the kid was an American citizen.
That's the way it worked, or did work, not anymore,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, now moving on that, I want to talk about
what happened during the fires. If you remember, of course
you remember it because it just happened a little while ago.
During the course of the fire. There was huge controversy
afterwards when there wasn't enough water where the fire hydrants,
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especially in the upper regions of the regions of the Palisades,
didn't have enough water pressure and or there wasn't water
period in the fire hydrants and we had one of
those reservoirs that was empty up in the hills, because
our reservoirs all over up in the hills of southern California,
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and so that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Became really controversial.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And the argument is had there been water pressure, had
there been that reservoir and it was operating, then that
would have helped.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now fire officials.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Are saying, people that know fire saying nothing would have helped.
When you have one hundred mile an hour winds that
are kicking up fires.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, the fire outraces everything and there isn't enough
water on the planet of any city that could take
care of it. And the argument, another argument where a
ton more water it would be available, is that the
amount of water that was necessary to deal with the fire,
(14:40):
and even it couldn't be dealt with, let's say it
would have made an impact on the fire.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Not that it would have stopped it, but let's say
would have made an impact.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, there's no city in the world that can sustain
that much water being needed and used for that period
of time. That's what firefighters and water experts were saying
and explaining. Not that it matters because the lawsuits have
already filed, especially against PG and E, because they may
(15:08):
have started the fire with a power pole, a transmission
line hitting vegetation under those transmission poles could be don't
know yet, probably, but that doesn't mean that the fire
could have been put out.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because this thing started, well, we knew.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We knew because National Weather Service was telling us that
we are looking at a cataclysmic event coming up, a
life threatening event with the winds, and if the fire
is going to start, and it always does someplace, look
at massive damage and loss of life.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean, they were warning us.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They even warned Karen Bass when she was in Africa,
of which she promised during a campaign she would not
leave Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And of course there was the politics of it there,
not that it would have changed anything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
By the way, as far as Karen Bass is concerned,
what the hell could she have done if she were
in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Just the optics of.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Her not being here. And anyway, that's the political part.
Let's talk about the other political part, and that is
the amount of water that was released from northern California
and this was upon the order of President Trump. And
what happened and what didn't happen and how that was
pure one hundred percent politics, having nothing at all to
(16:31):
do with the fire, although it was portrayed that it did.
This is a segment as to what happened during the fires,
the Eating Fire, the Palisades Fire, Malibu, and what ended
up happening was, of course, there was a lack of water.
There wasn't enough water pressure in the Palisades fire particularly,
and that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Reservoir was empty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And so what the President did is ordered water to
be released from northern California into southern California as some
kind of aid to the firefighting.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And the government was told it's going to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That water is not going to go to the Palisades,
it is not going to Altadena.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's just going to be released. That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But the politics, oh my god, where the politics absolutely terrific.
The President said, I have released the water. I have
helped the situation, even though you know the water was not.
So here's what he did did not help, Okay, he
calls for the federal government to maximize water deliveries in
(17:45):
California and during the course of the fire. And there's
a memo that just been released by the government and
shows how the Army Corps engineers responded, because the Army
Corps engineers were responsible for this, so they went ahead
and and they emptied two dams to carry out the water.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Even though officials knew the water couldn't be moved out
of the Central Valley as he wished. They released the.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Water anyway by releasing the dams and downflow the water.
There's only one bit of good news about that that
I'll share with you in a minute. So the water,
and this is water that is held to be used
during the summer months for irrigation where it's hotter than
hell in the Central Valley, and he ordered it released
and flowing down southern California, not to the Palis Aes
(18:35):
area or Altadena area. Remember that's those two are not connected.
And he said, I release the water. It's a beautiful thing.
This is what I have done. I'm paraphrasing, but those
are his quotes. And it's the Army Corps engineer that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Had to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And they did, even though the water managers of the
various water districts saying what are you doing? This is
going to do nothing except release the water so there
won't be water for the summertime for the Central Valley.
I mean, everybody involved. We're told you can't do it,
you shouldn't do it. And the Army Corps of Engineers,
(19:10):
according to this memo, responded saying, this is a presidential order.
The president says, we release the water. We release the water, which,
by the way, the president does have the authority. No
one's saying that he didn't have the authority to do this.
It's just did it make sense? Absolutely not. Was it
a political issue? Absolutely now. Was the water wasted? Here's
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the one bit of good news.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The water did not go to anything that it was
intended to do. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It was a political move. So the president could say,
look what I did. I made the water flow. Where
the water went was it went, It was absorbed by
the ground, and it filled up the aquifer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Helped our aquifer.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Underneath southern California, which is a good thing. The water
was not wasted, it was not thrown away. It did
some good. Now that it do more harm than good. Probably,
We'll see what happens this summer and how droughty the
drought is going to be, and if we hit very
drowdy droughts, if we're into droughdiosity in a major way.
(20:28):
That water well, it could have, would have should have
been used. We'll find out. Okay, there there it is.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Let me see if I have the quote here. This
is a story out of the La Times. Where was it?
What he said?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Um? I had the quote, and there we go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There we go. Okay, I can't find it. Excellent.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is a show that is so well planned, and
I have such control of these topics. It's extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Coming out is well planned. Yeah, you're right. I take
that back.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay, I will rephrase that it is well planned. It
is not particularly well executed coming up foody front.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm sorry. Does someone just say something? Yeah, I said,
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
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KFI AM six forty Handle Morning Crew on a Foody Friday,
March fourteenth, Pie Day three fourteen, of course coming up
at I love Fridays because especially the last hour because
we have Foody Friday, which means Neil and I get
into it with food, which we do all the time anyway.
(00:26):
And then at eight thirty it is to ask handle
anything we end the show with embarrassing me.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, one of the big stories that we are covering,
and it affects every one of us, and that is
the government shutdown maybe and unless there is what's called
a stop gap bill to keep the government running because
Congress has to vote itself. The ability now it is
to borrow money because the income of the government is
(00:57):
far far less than the expenditure by the two trillion
dollars a year insane deficit anyway, so your usually there
is a stop gap bill when you're about to shut down.
The government's about to shut down, and it turns out
that Republicans and Democrats can't agree. So here's what the
Republicans did. They want a bill that extends to September,
(01:23):
allowing all the negotiations to go in for the fiscal year,
which means you're halfway.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We're halfway through this now it's a kind of October November.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, three months into the fiscal year before there is
a budget agreement. And usually what they do is they
cut a deal which continues the government with no changes.
You know, while we're figuring this that we'll leave the
government alone. All right, We'll leave the budget alone and then.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We'll figure this out. Republican are saying no. Now they
have introduced the bill.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Their bill is we'll have the stop gap bill, but
here's what we want in it. And this is where
the Democrats are going completely crazy. What it is is
it takes away a lot of governmental programs, education programs,
(02:16):
programs to various disability issues. I mean, it just goes
on and on, substance abuse treatment, international peacekeeping, the DC
budget because the federal government pays.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
For Washington d C.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And federal government in this case, because it's a Trump
government hates Washington d C. Because it is a very
liberal area and it's a city state sort of things
very unique. So in any case, here's the Democrats dilemma.
If they say no to that bill. Therefore, the government
shuts down Saturday night, shutting down meaning that only essential
(02:56):
workers are allowed to get paid, and the government can't
borrow money. And literally, if it can't borrow money to
keep on going, it doesn't keep on going. So the
Republicans say, okay, we're going to keep on going, but
this is what we want in the bill.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We want those cuts. But wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Usually you have a stopgap bill that sort of keeps
everything the same. Nope, not this time around. So now
it's up to the Senate House. It's already passed. Now
it's up to the Senate. Chuck Schumer, who is the
minority leader, said, oh, we have enough Democrats to keep
this from going forward. Well that was on Thursday, or
(03:34):
that was on Wednesday, next day Thursday. He changes his
mind because look at he calls it a Hobson's choice,
which is true. If the Democrats stop this, which they could,
if all the Democrats voted that way, then they're going
to be blamed for the shutdown. The Republicans are already saying,
we're looking at a Schumer shutdown. Now if they let
(03:58):
the government run out, where the uh, the stopgap bill
isn't passed, then what happens is that the president has
complete power to determine, for example, which employees are essential,
which employees are non essential. It gives Trump enormous more
(04:22):
power to run the government during a period in which
there is no budget. So the Democrats are looking, we
have no choice. Look what the Republicans did to us.
By the way, it's a good move on the Republicans,
very smart political move.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But they have everything.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They have the House, they have the Senate, they have
the White House, so they have a lot of power.
Obama had the same thing in his first two years.
How do you think Obamacare got passed? Well, it changes midterms.
Is it going to change midterm this thing this time?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think if there is a recession, I think if
people lose their jobs by the handful, I think if
businesses do not move in the do not move as
quickly as Trump promises, do not make as much money
where people as he said, you're going to be better off. Now,
(05:18):
there may be a slight delay. I mean he went
from day one, I'm going to change everything. We're gonna
have the best economy in the world, to now, okay,
there's going to be a period of adjustment and then.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We're going to have the greatest period in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
If none of that happens, I think the Republicans are
going to get nailed in the midterm, nailed. But for
the next two years, things like this are going to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Will fund the stop gap, We'll pass it. But here's
what we want.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And you Democrats have no choice because you're going to
get blamed for shutdown. As a matter of fact, I
think a lot of Republicans want to shut down of
the government because first of all, the Democrats get blamed.
Second of all, their president gets even more power than
he has now. By the way, that's the biggest fight
that's going on in the United States right now. This
(06:11):
is the largest number of lawsuits that have been filed
against the federal government and how to remember how many
years and it's all about the president's power.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How far does it go? Right now? Trump is not
winning a lot of it. But we'll see what the
Supreme Court has to say.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, moving on to the story of undocumented immigrants and
undocumented health care. Gavin Newsom has been very proud of
the fact that California is the first state in the
nation to offer health care to all income eligible immigrants
(06:53):
one year ago as people who don't have any money,
which is virtually all virtual the illegal immigrants. Nine point
five billion dollar price tag for state sponsored healthcare for
undocumented immigrants is not only is it expensive, it's three
billion dollars above the budget estimate and is expected to grow.
(07:15):
Now new some of the Democrats under.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Big pressure to hey, reduce that coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's just way too expensive, especially since California is under
a budget crunch right now. I mean, there's no issue
that we used to have a ton of money. We
used to have surpluses that were astronomical. Now they're going
the other way. For example, you go to Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,
pretty liberal guy. He proposed a three hundred and thirty
(07:42):
million dollar budget cut last month to stale to scale
back his expansion of healthcare coverage for undocumented illegal aliens.
So it's getting really expensive here in California and expected
to grow.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's an assembly member Carl.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Demeyo who's always on joining on John Cobot show. He's
a Republican out of San Diego.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
He says we.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Shouldn't bury these costs. Period, especially in a budget crisis.
And where are the politics here? Oh my god, this
whole issue is ridden riddled with politics. So California's position
coverage for all residents, illegal or not, we become a
state very right for conservatives. Elon Musk weighed in saying
(08:26):
that healthcare here in California is a mechanism by which
Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by essentially paying them
to come here and then turning them into voters. I
don't know how many illegal immigrants have become voters in
the last five years. None, or it's almost infinitesimal. I
(08:50):
must say Democrats are pushing hard to maximize payments to illegals.
Free luxury hotels in New York, free medical care for
illegals in California, And that's for their future voter base.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Wow, you know, I don't think that's the reason.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I do think Democrats view that healthcare should be for everybody,
illegal or not, no matter how expensive it is. And
in this day and age, you know, there's just not
a lot of money there and where do you cut?
And now here is the difference in political outlook of
(09:28):
life in general? If you're a liberal Democrat you give
health care to everybody in the United States, regardless of
immigrant status.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're a conservative, you.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Don't illegals are illegals or illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants?
Is there undocumented I don't even if say, you can
say illegal undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is there any way for us to back charge or
have an agreement with Mexico?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Which or sure Mexico agree, Yeah, Mexico agrees to it,
like they're going to for sure?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Come on, yeah, yeah, you can argue that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Someone coming over the border is the money has to
be paid for any.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Health care that undocumented immigrants are voting even legally.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
No, they're not. No, they're not. There is virtually no
evidence that there is. It's the other way. Actually, you know,
the Republicans are arguing. Trump argued during the election, there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are millions and millions.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Of people who are illegal, and that's just not who voted.
That's just not true. It's simply an allegation the Democrats
want to pay for illegal immigrants medical care just to
make them voters.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Come on, I mean, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Now, they do want to pay because they believe it's
a very liberal approach that everybody, everybody gets medical care
come hell or high water, and Medicaid, particular medical which
is our version of medicaid, which gives medical care to
people that are extraordinary poor. It really goes to if
we give medical care to illegal immigrants, which we do
(11:02):
right now under Newsom's plan, it's almost every illegal immigrant.
Because illegal immigrants have no money, they do not buy
medical insurance. They just don't. And if everybody is entitled
(11:22):
to medical care notwithstanding illegal status or illegal status, you
know what that means is that proportionally illegal immigrants are
going to get far more medical care than others.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I have insurance, you have insurance.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
The illegal immigrant that's crossing the border, which is not
because Trump has successfully shut down the border, which I'm
fine with, is that person has no money.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That person walks into.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
An emergency room and has to be treated by law,
by the way has to be treated. If I walk
into an emergency room, I'm handed a bill, and I
either go to Kaiser if I go to another hospital,
they pay, Kaiser pays the bill. Who pays the bill?
When someone has no money? Virtually every illegal immigrant we're
talking about the government does, And so some states say
(12:19):
illegal immigrants, too bad, You're on your own if you
have a medical issue, that's cheaper than California, which says
everybody gets medical care. Remember, used to have anchor babies.
Anchor babies were babies that were born of women who
came over the border, who illegally had the baby. Because again,
(12:39):
a baby born in the United States is of course
a citizen, notwithstanding any immigrant status of the parents. And
so what these anchor baby, how these anchor babies work
is the prospective mom would sneak over the border and
go to a hospital where she would get treatment about
one hundred times better than she ever could in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It was absolutely free, and the kid was an American citizen.
That's the way it worked, or did work, not anymore,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, now moving on that, I want to talk about
what happened during the fires. If you remember, of course
you remember it because it just happened a little while ago.
During the course of the fire. There was huge controversy
afterwards when there wasn't enough water where the fire hydrants,
(13:35):
especially in the upper regions of the regions of the Palisades,
didn't have enough water pressure and or there wasn't water
period in the fire hydrants and we had one of
those reservoirs that was empty up in the hills, because
our reservoirs all over up in the hills of southern California,
(13:55):
and so that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Became really controversial.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And the argument is had there been water pressure, had
there been that reservoir and it was operating, then that
would have helped.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now fire officials.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Are saying, people that know fire saying nothing would have helped.
When you have one hundred mile an hour winds that
are kicking up fires.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, the fire outraces everything and there isn't enough
water on the planet of any city that could take
care of it. And the argument, another argument where a
ton more water it would be available, is that the
amount of water that was necessary to deal with the fire,
(14:40):
and even it couldn't be dealt with, let's say it
would have made an impact on the fire.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Not that it would have stopped it, but let's say
would have made an impact.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, there's no city in the world that can sustain
that much water being needed and used for that period
of time. That's what firefighters and water experts were saying
and explaining. Not that it matters because the lawsuits have
already filed, especially against PG and E, because they may
(15:08):
have started the fire with a power pole, a transmission
line hitting vegetation under those transmission poles could be don't
know yet, probably, but that doesn't mean that the fire
could have been put out.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because this thing started, well, we knew.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We knew because National Weather Service was telling us that
we are looking at a cataclysmic event coming up, a
life threatening event with the winds, and if the fire
is going to start, and it always does someplace, look
at massive damage and loss of life.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean, they were warning us.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They even warned Karen Bass when she was in Africa,
of which she promised during a campaign she would not
leave Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And of course there was the politics of it there,
not that it would have changed anything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
By the way, as far as Karen Bass is concerned,
what the hell could she have done if she were
in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Just the optics of.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Her not being here. And anyway, that's the political part.
Let's talk about the other political part, and that is
the amount of water that was released from northern California
and this was upon the order of President Trump. And
what happened and what didn't happen and how that was
pure one hundred percent politics, having nothing at all to
(16:31):
do with the fire, although it was portrayed that it did.
This is a segment as to what happened during the fires,
the Eating Fire, the Palisades Fire, Malibu, and what ended
up happening was, of course, there was a lack of water.
There wasn't enough water pressure in the Palisades fire particularly,
and that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Reservoir was empty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And so what the President did is ordered water to
be released from northern California into southern California as some
kind of aid to the firefighting.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And the government was told it's going to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That water is not going to go to the Palisades,
it is not going to Altadena.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's just going to be released. That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But the politics, oh my god, where the politics absolutely terrific.
The President said, I have released the water. I have
helped the situation, even though you know the water was not.
So here's what he did did not help, Okay, he
calls for the federal government to maximize water deliveries in
(17:45):
California and during the course of the fire. And there's
a memo that just been released by the government and
shows how the Army Corps engineers responded, because the Army
Corps engineers were responsible for this, so they went ahead
and and they emptied two dams to carry out the water.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Even though officials knew the water couldn't be moved out
of the Central Valley as he wished. They released the.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Water anyway by releasing the dams and downflow the water.
There's only one bit of good news about that that
I'll share with you in a minute. So the water,
and this is water that is held to be used
during the summer months for irrigation where it's hotter than
hell in the Central Valley, and he ordered it released
and flowing down southern California, not to the Palis Aes
(18:35):
area or Altadena area. Remember that's those two are not connected.
And he said, I release the water. It's a beautiful thing.
This is what I have done. I'm paraphrasing, but those
are his quotes. And it's the Army Corps engineer that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Had to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And they did, even though the water managers of the
various water districts saying what are you doing? This is
going to do nothing except release the water so there
won't be water for the summertime for the Central Valley.
I mean, everybody involved. We're told you can't do it,
you shouldn't do it. And the Army Corps of Engineers,
(19:10):
according to this memo, responded saying, this is a presidential order.
The president says, we release the water. We release the water, which,
by the way, the president does have the authority. No
one's saying that he didn't have the authority to do this.
It's just did it make sense? Absolutely not. Was it
a political issue? Absolutely now. Was the water wasted? Here's
(19:36):
the one bit of good news.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The water did not go to anything that it was
intended to do. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It was a political move. So the president could say,
look what I did. I made the water flow. Where
the water went was it went, It was absorbed by
the ground, and it filled up the aquifer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Helped our aquifer.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Underneath southern California, which is a good thing. The water
was not wasted, it was not thrown away. It did
some good. Now that it do more harm than good. Probably,
We'll see what happens this summer and how droughty the
drought is going to be, and if we hit very
drowdy droughts, if we're into droughdiosity in a major way.
(20:28):
That water well, it could have, would have should have
been used. We'll find out. Okay, there there it is.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Let me see if I have the quote here. This
is a story out of the La Times. Where was it?
What he said?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Um? I had the quote, and there we go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There we go. Okay, I can't find it. Excellent.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is a show that is so well planned, and
I have such control of these topics. It's extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Coming out is well planned. Yeah, you're right. I take
that back.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay, I will rephrase that it is well planned. It
is not particularly well executed coming up foody front.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm sorry. Does someone just say something? Yeah, I said,
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
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