September 9, 2024 • 24 mins
Gov. Gavin Newsom declares State of Emergency in San Bernardino County due to Line Fire… over 20,000 acres burned with 0% containment. Justice department preparing rental market collusion lawsuit. Should California community colleges offer bachelor’s degree in nursing? Universities say no. How snacks took over American life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen seats KFI AM six forty the bill handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f and this is
KFI Bill Handle Here. It is a Monday morning, September ninth,
big fire. I no surprise that we were expecting fires
that happened over the last few days because of this
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heat spell. I mean this incredible amount of heat, some
world breaking heat records, well at least in southern California.
So we got the line fire going on San Bernardino.
Over twenty thousand acres burned so far. KFI is Blake
Trolley on the fire line. Blake, what is going on there?
Give us the particulars.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So right now, Bill, if you take a look at
this fire, the activity is somewhat slow. And what I'm
told is that that's because you know, it's nightfall. There's
been smoke over the fire. So when you look at
these flames, I took a shot of them, the fire
seems relatively quiet. Now that said, this fire, I'm told,
as soon as the afternoon starts and light really gets
on this thing, it starts growing. Right now, this fire
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has burned more than twenty thousand acres, marking massive growth
since we began covering this fire on Friday. On Friday,
and keep in mind this fire broke out Thursday, this
fire had only burned a few hundred acres. This fire
started just north of East Highland. Now the fire is
three percent surrounded. We're told that firefighters were able to
make some progress on this fire last night with temperatures
(01:25):
down in humidity up, but again today they're expecting those
temperatures to climb back up and create another.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Really difficult fight.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
As far as the community's impacted, Bill, yesterday, were told
this fire was heading towards Running Springs. Well, most recently
it began heading towards the Forest Falls area, So while
it was kind of on the west side of some
of these mountain communities, it's now starting to head east.
Calfire's Brent Pasqua says thunder is making this fire super unpredictable.
(01:52):
It sounds like Saturday was a very hazardous day for
ground crews.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's correct. On Saturday we had over three hundred lightning strikes. Luckily,
we had a little bit of rain so we didn't
get any new starts from those lightning strikes, but again,
very hazardous to firefighters.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So Bill right now there's eighteen hundred and fifty five
firefighters on scene. Some of these firefighters are from in state,
out of state.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Let me throw something at you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm assuming that they've pretty well decided that this was
a lightning strike that caused the fire.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I but believe the official cause of the fire is
under investigation. But that said, yeah, I mean with this
monsoonal whether there's a high likelihood of that?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
All right, So, if you have fire, if you have lightning,
I'm assuming that lightning just doesn't hit in one place.
If you've got lightning storms coming in, you probably have
dozens of places where lightning hits the ground. Did that
happen where there are several many fires that were started?
Or this is a specific fire, a compilation or amalgamation
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of a.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Bunch of little ones, or a single pest, we have
any information?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, So they had lightning strikes really all over the map,
and when you look at this twenty thousand square foot map,
you know that's it's pretty impressive that none of these
lightning strikes actually led to new fires. And what they
said was that was because this lightning and a lot
of cases was actually paired up with rain. So firefighters
feel very lucky that, you know, while the lightning was
obviously creating a very dangerous situation for ground.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crews because it was paired up with rain.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They said they had actually zero news starts because of
this lightning. That said, they're not keeping their eyes off
the ball. They're saying today again, this fire, they kind
of have a direction it's heading. I told you, it's
kind of heading eastward. But then again with this lightning
and with this weather, they're saying, it's very unpredictable. And
with that, firefighters are watching all sides.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And how about evacuations, what's going on in that regard.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, so there's several evacuations, or there's evacuations for several
communities and a lot of these or these communities in
a lot of cases are these mountain communities, so forest falls,
running springs. There's also lowland evacuations and parts of u Kaipa,
parts of Highland. Again, this fire really didn't start too
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far from the city of Highland. It was on the
east part of Highland. So again a lot of these
mountain communities or several of these mountain communities are under
evacuation order. Many under evacuation warning, and what firefighters are
warning people is, hey, look, you got to get out
of here sooner than later, right, I Mean, there's not
that many entrances in and there's not that many entrances
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out of this area, so you know, getting ahead of
this is kind of your best friend here.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How about air assets? Have you seen many of those
being used?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You're definitely seeing air assets. There's nearly actually there's eighteen
helicopters on scene, so nearly twenty helicopters on scene. And
I think air assets are going to be the most
important part of this fight. I mean, if you look
at the topography of this wildfire, it's in an area
that really shoots up right, I mean, this is really
steep terrain, and firefighters have alluded to that, saying that
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this is really creating a challenge. That said, there still
are two hundred eleven engines and twenty seven dozers, also
three water tenders. But again, those eighteen helicopters are a
very important part to this fight. But there is a
lot of smoke. I mean I just heard Will talking about,
you know, the air quality over LA. You can see
it out here in the Inland Empires. Several schools have
been closed, and I'm told that that smoke is making
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it hard for these helicopters to get on scene, you know,
the way they'd like to.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah. I always wonder about the ability of firefighters to
get water on a blaze, because obviously you don't have
water assets going up and down these mountains or in
these areas, so it has to be just fire retardant
or water drops and guys on the ground just digging
place up.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But again in this fight, I believe air assets are
going to be their best help. I mean you can
just see that from the topography. They said some of
the areas that this fire's burn, I mean, they just
really can't even get ground crews into this. I mean
this is some really steep and treacherous terrain. And really,
when you look.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
At the fuels, this is some hot fuel some of the.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Grass that's been burning out here, Bill and again in steep, steep, steep.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Terrain where fires is gonna run uphill.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is two and a half foot talled dry grass,
So very dangerous conditions out here for firefighters.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And where are or let me ask you this, how.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Many of these areas have what's the word I'm looking
for here?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Oh God, my mind just went I'm having a Joe
Biden moment.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We're talking about places where you have you know what,
I can't believe I missed that, you know what. I'm
going to leave it at that, and I'm going to
figure this out during the break. What I was talking
about because I knew where I was going there, But
I'm not going to tell you because I don't know
where I was going headquarters? Is that the word I'm
(07:00):
looking for? Never mind, Blake, we'll be.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Talking you are you Are you asking about maybe like
evacuation shelter location.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, I'm talking about like a command they set up
centers where they set up centers where they're basically moving
out of.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
How many of those do they have? Are you talking
about for resources or for people?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Never mind, never mind, never mind. Sorry, I was thinking
about something else.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This is why I get paid all this money. You
know that, don't you? Never mind? Blake?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I know, I'll try to figure it out. I
was going in a direction. I completely lost track. All right,
we'll talk a little bit later, Blake. I'm sure you're
gonna be reporting for the UH in basically the entire day.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I would as yeah, we'll be out here all day.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, we'll be out here all day at the Corbyn
Carson's taken over this afternoon, so as well, you.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Got it all right?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Coming up by the way during the break, I will
have figured out exactly what I was going to say,
and I'll just.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Interrupt the commercials or news or amy or something, and
I'll start screaming where I was going on that one,
all right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Biden administration has made a very big deal of
housing and the rental issues. A matter of fact, during
the State of the Union, Joe Biden said specifically that
that is one of the biggest problems, calling out retail
price rental prices and saying for millions of renters, we're
cracking down on big landlords who break anti trust laws
(08:27):
by price fixing and driving up rents. Okay with that,
there is now a lawsuit that's being produced to challenge
what's being called collusive conduct and the rental housing market.
And the lawsuit is against one software company that the
government believes is allowing large landlords to fix prices. And
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this is a company, boy, I tell you talk about
a successful company to say the least called real Page,
and real Page has someware various software programs that allow
property owners across the country to compare prices using information
that is both public and non public. Non public being
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information they share with each other, and based on that,
they are colluding to fixed prices, which is illegal. It's
under its violation of antitrust laws. Now they're saying, we're
not doing it. They're not doing any colluding. We're just
giving them information. That's what they're doing. They're getting information
on demand on prices geographical areas, and they're using that
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to establish prices. That's not collusion, that's just gathering information.
That's all we're giving. And they're saying there's no proof
that they're calling each other up and saying hey, or
done with an algorithm, or done via some kind of program,
Hey let's raise prices or we can. According to real Page,
it's simply a database that the various landlorders use and
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you can do that. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Now,
obviously I'm not very sophisticated in the world of computers
and coding and what algorithms do and don't. And by
the way, this is a civil lawsuit that is going on,
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the government is also putting together a criminal suit against them,
with the grand Jury saying that they have gone beyond
simply price fixing. Civilly, it is a criminal violation depending
on the level.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And again Real Page and.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
The property companies that are also being part of this
have argued, and this is in court. These allegations don't
support any agreement to fixed prices. There's no evidence that
there is a conspiracy to fix prices. They're just determining
what market value is. And when you sell a house,
for example, as I did, the first thing you do
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is figure out what the market is, what market is
out there, what is the price?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What should I look?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You look at comps for example, now is where property
owners are looking at other prices. And now my price
is gone up because the price down the hill of that.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
House went up.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean that's to a very small degree what Real
Page is saying.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What it does. We're just giving out information.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Which way it goes, I don't know, I have no idea,
but at first glance, it seems as if it is
simply a program that gives.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Information to landlords.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And if I'm a landlord, I'd like to know what
the going price is I'd like to know what other
landlords are charging so I can decide how much I'm
going to charge for my property, my rental. And the
bottom line is, why don't we charge a price that
no one can afford?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
How does that work out for you? Because if you
look at well, I talked.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
To renters all the time on the Saturday show Bill,
I can't afford it anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm being evicted. What can I do?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't do much, can't do much. I mean, that's
one of the real downfalls. And I'm going to talk
a little bit more about what's going on in California
a little bit later on, and I'll do that at
eight o'clock to see what's going on with our laws.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
By the way, the word I was looking for as
command centers, Neil, when I had that brain that Biden.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Moment, I just wanted to share that with you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Question that's going around about nursing, right, we don't have
enough nurses. We will have enough nurses, at least that's
the projection by the state.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We're going to have all the nurses we need because
there's a major rise in nursing program enrollment.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But there is a caveat there.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
One is most of the rises in private nursing programs
you've gone on see if you go to daytime TV
and you watch it. And I used to not so
much anymore because I don't watch much broadcast TV. But
during the day you'd hear, you'd see commercials about go
to these private schools. They have nursing programs and you
can learn to be the backside nurse in the back
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end of the office of the doctors or the front end,
and we'll train you to do that. And you can
spend four thousand dollars for a semester and get some
kind of a certificate.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Things like you pick up the phone and go.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Doctor Smith's office, Can I help you? And it tells
you how to do that and how to calendar and
say things like I'll see if doctor is available. Got
to remember those I would call up when I was
practicing and reproducting the reproductive world. I'd be calling doctors
all the time, infertility doctors, and I'd say, is doctor
(14:09):
Smith there? And I go, I'll see if doctor And
then i'd hear, I'll see if doctor is available, tell
him that lawyer is waiting for him.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's just it's just crazy. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You can learn to pick up the phone and say
hello and get a certificate for.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
The front end of a doctor's office.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, it gets a little bit more complicated than that,
and it has to do with a degree in nursing.
Now you can become an RN with a two year
associate's degree. Most our ends or most hospitals high end
doctor's office won a four year bachelor's degree. And therein
(14:50):
is the issue because there are a couple of bills
that are up and running in California trying to be
passed that say let's move and expand license in the
junior colleges for a bachelor's degree. And you know saying
absolutely not cal State, No, no, no, we give out
the bachelor's degrees, not you, you give out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Two year degrees.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
They're actually running scared because they see their program diminishing
and they see their nursing programs, well, they're more expensive.
For one thing, community colleges, especially in the Central.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Valley, where a lot of this is looked at.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
A lot of this is targeted is communities in the
Central Valley that just don't have cal.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
States in the area.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And if someone wants to be a nurse, you know,
and there's a community college a couple miles away. Why
would you have to go to a cal state that's
forty miles away?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And people want a bachelor's degree.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Even though you can go to take the nursing test
with an associate's degree. A bachelor's degree is about a
year more of training. But it's just a better degree.
You get a better job, you are considered more professional, and.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The state system is fighting it. You go, why how
is that possible?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Isn't the educational system in this state about encompassing, about
making our abilities and the opportunities as.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Great as possible.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But it all boils down to, you know what, if
I'm going to get nailed, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
To let that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And if I'm going to lose enrollment because that little
Pittley Junior college down the road we're forty miles away,
is giving bachelor's degree like I do, I'm going to
fight it, come hell or high water. You know, this
goes across medicine and it has gone for years where
everybody has their own turf.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
For example, the whole.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Issue of physicians Assistants PAS, which have a fair amount
of power were the medical community fought that, like crazy,
only doctors should do this, PA should not do these
kinds of examinations and actually diagnosed, only a doctor can
(17:13):
do that. For a PA to prescribe, oh my god,
only doctors can do this, well, the state law changed
and doctors had to suck it up.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And then allowing nurses to.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Prescribe antibiotics I mean nothing crazy, but and allowed to
do sutures which never heretofore was allowed the medical the
medical community fought that, like crazy, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You protect your own turf.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So we've got two bills going up at pretty much
the same thing. One has to do with tuition, capping tuition,
and these are pilot programs and keeping limiting it to
the Central Valley, these pilot programs with the community colleges
and the other in a state wide and they're moving
through the legislature.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And you know, the only argument they.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Have, the cal state systems has you don't need them.
You don't need them because by twenty twenty seven, we're
going to have enough slots open that anybody wants to
be a nurse can go ahead and be a nurse.
Problem is is that a lot of these slots are
for private colleges. And let me tell you what a
bachelor's degree costs in anything at a private college.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, it's a lot of money. So go figure. You know,
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And it makes all that it makes so much sense
to allow bachelor's degrees in nursing in the community college,
so people number one get a better education, number two
have a have better access to better jobs.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now, up until the.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Nineteen eighties, okay, this is recent stuff. You know, our
world was or in and around meals, and eating between
meals was kind of discouraged. Snacking between meals was you know,
that wasn't a good thing, right, Moms wouldn't want you
to do that. It's just it was empty calories. Today,
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snacking has superseded supplanted meals. Snacking is more important than meals.
And look at the number of snacks that are out there.
They have exploded, and we've just reached a whole new
level to the point where snacks are pretending to be meals.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And we're actually buying into that. And of course.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Snacks are so healthy for you, fat and salt and sugar.
I wish I had a snack in front of me
that I was munching on right now.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Damn, my timing is horrible.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So Neil, you've seen this happen like crazy because you
pay attention to this, and are you seeing snacking that
is actually advancing by the hour with more being introduced.
We talk about this all the time. The crazier it is,
the more snacks there are.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, they say all the time they being nutritionists, to
eat the outer circumference of the grocery store. That's your
fresh baked goods, that's your produce.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Your meats, your dairy.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Once you get into the inside is where you find
all the snacking section. And as Americans, we've switched through
many different seasons when it comes to eating. You go,
you know, up until the late eighteen hundreds and vegetables
weren't a big deal. People were eating, you know, the
heavier things, dairy meat, oat meal, sugar. These were people
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that were working probably in the farms for the most part,
and sometimes it was eating throughout the day, you know,
with a supper and you're not so much lunch, but
you'd have your breakfast. And now we've seen that that
we'd have like you know, pizza bagels become bagel bites,
and pizza's becoming you know, in little pockets or hot pockets.
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That or we've made them easier to carry and efficient
to snack on.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But that has happened throughout the centuries.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I mean tacos, taketos, these types of things were often
said to be created because they were easy to handle
and easy to eat while you were working. And as
we become more of a work society here in the
United States where we take very little time off, you know,
more people are snacking and then comfort foods and salt
and all these things.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
By the way, I'm prominent. Yeah, the numbers are extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There was a Harris study that ended in twenty twenty
before the pandemic, and it's now up to ninety five
percent of the population snacks. Half of the respondents say
they consume at least three snacks a day.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Sixty percent say that they like snacking over traditional meals.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I mean snack. Yeah, this is what we do now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We snack and the food is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
It's great tasting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I love snacks, but calories and fat and I mean
all of it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Pre two thousand and eight. Bilt you look, and the
average American doubled their snacking. So back in those days
you're looking at maybe fifty some odd percentage, and as
you just said, twenty twenty, just before the pandemic, it
rose to ninety five percent. You're not going to find
anybody that doesn't snack for the most part.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah. Are you a big snacker? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
All right?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Are you a big snacker?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Amy?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Are you a big snacker?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Cono, can you afford any snacks? No?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, so and I'm a big snacker. So that's one
out of five. But Cono, realistically, are you a big snacker?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Massive?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I see. That's the problem. That is exact. We have
just hit exactly what society is doing in the world
of snacking, and it's in.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
There and we throw breadcrumbs and crackers at Kno like
a pigeon.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And and the obesity issue UH has to be directly
tied UH to snacking. I mean, there's no way around it.
And the fact that it's the salt in the cholesterol
level and all that, I mean, it's terrible stuff. Where
do they what country do they not snack? I would
think France and I don't know. I haven't looked at
any figures doesn't don't have a lot of snacks. Yeah,
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but it's but it's not the same as the snacks
that we do. It's not process the way we uh,
the way we have it. I think what in uh
in the Alaska parts of Canada with the Inuit community,
do they have like different kinds of blubber in bags,
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different flavored blubber. I don't know if they do or not.
All right, I'm gonna end at that point. You know,
that was a pretty good idea. You know, boy there you.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Know when you walk around the Middle East. Anywhere in
the Middle East, there's red vendors who you just tear
off a piece and you put it in the zatar
and you I mean, there's snacks everywhere, but.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Those are healthy. That's the difference. They're not processing. Yeah,
little bags, big difference.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
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KFI Bill Handle Here. It is a Monday morning, September ninth,
big fire. I no surprise that we were expecting fires
that happened over the last few days because of this
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heat spell. I mean this incredible amount of heat, some
world breaking heat records, well at least in southern California.
So we got the line fire going on San Bernardino.
Over twenty thousand acres burned so far. KFI is Blake
Trolley on the fire line. Blake, what is going on there?
Give us the particulars.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So right now, Bill, if you take a look at
this fire, the activity is somewhat slow. And what I'm
told is that that's because you know, it's nightfall. There's
been smoke over the fire. So when you look at
these flames, I took a shot of them, the fire
seems relatively quiet. Now that said, this fire, I'm told,
as soon as the afternoon starts and light really gets
on this thing, it starts growing. Right now, this fire
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has burned more than twenty thousand acres, marking massive growth
since we began covering this fire on Friday. On Friday,
and keep in mind this fire broke out Thursday, this
fire had only burned a few hundred acres. This fire
started just north of East Highland. Now the fire is
three percent surrounded. We're told that firefighters were able to
make some progress on this fire last night with temperatures
(01:25):
down in humidity up, but again today they're expecting those
temperatures to climb back up and create another.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Really difficult fight.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
As far as the community's impacted, Bill, yesterday, were told
this fire was heading towards Running Springs. Well, most recently
it began heading towards the Forest Falls area, So while
it was kind of on the west side of some
of these mountain communities, it's now starting to head east.
Calfire's Brent Pasqua says thunder is making this fire super unpredictable.
(01:52):
It sounds like Saturday was a very hazardous day for
ground crews.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's correct. On Saturday we had over three hundred lightning strikes. Luckily,
we had a little bit of rain so we didn't
get any new starts from those lightning strikes, but again,
very hazardous to firefighters.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So Bill right now there's eighteen hundred and fifty five
firefighters on scene. Some of these firefighters are from in state,
out of state.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Let me throw something at you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm assuming that they've pretty well decided that this was
a lightning strike that caused the fire.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I but believe the official cause of the fire is
under investigation. But that said, yeah, I mean with this
monsoonal whether there's a high likelihood of that?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
All right, So, if you have fire, if you have lightning,
I'm assuming that lightning just doesn't hit in one place.
If you've got lightning storms coming in, you probably have
dozens of places where lightning hits the ground. Did that
happen where there are several many fires that were started?
Or this is a specific fire, a compilation or amalgamation
(02:59):
of a.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Bunch of little ones, or a single pest, we have
any information?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, So they had lightning strikes really all over the map,
and when you look at this twenty thousand square foot map,
you know that's it's pretty impressive that none of these
lightning strikes actually led to new fires. And what they
said was that was because this lightning and a lot
of cases was actually paired up with rain. So firefighters
feel very lucky that, you know, while the lightning was
obviously creating a very dangerous situation for ground.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crews because it was paired up with rain.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They said they had actually zero news starts because of
this lightning. That said, they're not keeping their eyes off
the ball. They're saying today again, this fire, they kind
of have a direction it's heading. I told you, it's
kind of heading eastward. But then again with this lightning
and with this weather, they're saying, it's very unpredictable. And
with that, firefighters are watching all sides.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And how about evacuations, what's going on in that regard.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, so there's several evacuations, or there's evacuations for several
communities and a lot of these or these communities in
a lot of cases are these mountain communities, so forest falls,
running springs. There's also lowland evacuations and parts of u Kaipa,
parts of Highland. Again, this fire really didn't start too
(04:12):
far from the city of Highland. It was on the
east part of Highland. So again a lot of these
mountain communities or several of these mountain communities are under
evacuation order. Many under evacuation warning, and what firefighters are
warning people is, hey, look, you got to get out
of here sooner than later, right, I Mean, there's not
that many entrances in and there's not that many entrances
(04:33):
out of this area, so you know, getting ahead of
this is kind of your best friend here.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How about air assets? Have you seen many of those
being used?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You're definitely seeing air assets. There's nearly actually there's eighteen
helicopters on scene, so nearly twenty helicopters on scene. And
I think air assets are going to be the most
important part of this fight. I mean, if you look
at the topography of this wildfire, it's in an area
that really shoots up right, I mean, this is really
steep terrain, and firefighters have alluded to that, saying that
(05:04):
this is really creating a challenge. That said, there still
are two hundred eleven engines and twenty seven dozers, also
three water tenders. But again, those eighteen helicopters are a
very important part to this fight. But there is a
lot of smoke. I mean I just heard Will talking about,
you know, the air quality over LA. You can see
it out here in the Inland Empires. Several schools have
been closed, and I'm told that that smoke is making
(05:27):
it hard for these helicopters to get on scene, you know,
the way they'd like to.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah. I always wonder about the ability of firefighters to
get water on a blaze, because obviously you don't have
water assets going up and down these mountains or in
these areas, so it has to be just fire retardant
or water drops and guys on the ground just digging
place up.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But again in this fight, I believe air assets are
going to be their best help. I mean you can
just see that from the topography. They said some of
the areas that this fire's burn, I mean, they just
really can't even get ground crews into this. I mean
this is some really steep and treacherous terrain. And really,
when you look.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
At the fuels, this is some hot fuel some of the.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Grass that's been burning out here, Bill and again in steep, steep, steep.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Terrain where fires is gonna run uphill.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is two and a half foot talled dry grass,
So very dangerous conditions out here for firefighters.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And where are or let me ask you this, how.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Many of these areas have what's the word I'm looking
for here?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Oh God, my mind just went I'm having a Joe
Biden moment.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We're talking about places where you have you know what,
I can't believe I missed that, you know what. I'm
going to leave it at that, and I'm going to
figure this out during the break. What I was talking
about because I knew where I was going there, But
I'm not going to tell you because I don't know
where I was going headquarters? Is that the word I'm
(07:00):
looking for? Never mind, Blake, we'll be.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Talking you are you Are you asking about maybe like
evacuation shelter location.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, I'm talking about like a command they set up
centers where they set up centers where they're basically moving
out of.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
How many of those do they have? Are you talking
about for resources or for people?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Never mind, never mind, never mind. Sorry, I was thinking
about something else.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This is why I get paid all this money. You
know that, don't you? Never mind? Blake?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I know, I'll try to figure it out. I
was going in a direction. I completely lost track. All right,
we'll talk a little bit later, Blake. I'm sure you're
gonna be reporting for the UH in basically the entire day.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I would as yeah, we'll be out here all day.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, we'll be out here all day at the Corbyn
Carson's taken over this afternoon, so as well, you.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Got it all right?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Coming up by the way during the break, I will
have figured out exactly what I was going to say,
and I'll just.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Interrupt the commercials or news or amy or something, and
I'll start screaming where I was going on that one,
all right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Biden administration has made a very big deal of
housing and the rental issues. A matter of fact, during
the State of the Union, Joe Biden said specifically that
that is one of the biggest problems, calling out retail
price rental prices and saying for millions of renters, we're
cracking down on big landlords who break anti trust laws
(08:27):
by price fixing and driving up rents. Okay with that,
there is now a lawsuit that's being produced to challenge
what's being called collusive conduct and the rental housing market.
And the lawsuit is against one software company that the
government believes is allowing large landlords to fix prices. And
(08:52):
this is a company, boy, I tell you talk about
a successful company to say the least called real Page,
and real Page has someware various software programs that allow
property owners across the country to compare prices using information
that is both public and non public. Non public being
(09:14):
information they share with each other, and based on that,
they are colluding to fixed prices, which is illegal. It's
under its violation of antitrust laws. Now they're saying, we're
not doing it. They're not doing any colluding. We're just
giving them information. That's what they're doing. They're getting information
on demand on prices geographical areas, and they're using that
(09:38):
to establish prices. That's not collusion, that's just gathering information.
That's all we're giving. And they're saying there's no proof
that they're calling each other up and saying hey, or
done with an algorithm, or done via some kind of program,
Hey let's raise prices or we can. According to real Page,
it's simply a database that the various landlorders use and
(10:05):
you can do that. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Now,
obviously I'm not very sophisticated in the world of computers
and coding and what algorithms do and don't. And by
the way, this is a civil lawsuit that is going on,
(10:26):
the government is also putting together a criminal suit against them,
with the grand Jury saying that they have gone beyond
simply price fixing. Civilly, it is a criminal violation depending
on the level.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And again Real Page and.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
The property companies that are also being part of this
have argued, and this is in court. These allegations don't
support any agreement to fixed prices. There's no evidence that
there is a conspiracy to fix prices. They're just determining
what market value is. And when you sell a house,
for example, as I did, the first thing you do
(11:08):
is figure out what the market is, what market is
out there, what is the price?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What should I look?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You look at comps for example, now is where property
owners are looking at other prices. And now my price
is gone up because the price down the hill of that.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
House went up.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean that's to a very small degree what Real
Page is saying.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What it does. We're just giving out information.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Which way it goes, I don't know, I have no idea,
but at first glance, it seems as if it is
simply a program that gives.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Information to landlords.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And if I'm a landlord, I'd like to know what
the going price is I'd like to know what other
landlords are charging so I can decide how much I'm
going to charge for my property, my rental. And the
bottom line is, why don't we charge a price that
no one can afford?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
How does that work out for you? Because if you
look at well, I talked.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
To renters all the time on the Saturday show Bill,
I can't afford it anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm being evicted. What can I do?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't do much, can't do much. I mean, that's
one of the real downfalls. And I'm going to talk
a little bit more about what's going on in California
a little bit later on, and I'll do that at
eight o'clock to see what's going on with our laws.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
By the way, the word I was looking for as
command centers, Neil, when I had that brain that Biden.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Moment, I just wanted to share that with you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Question that's going around about nursing, right, we don't have
enough nurses. We will have enough nurses, at least that's
the projection by the state.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We're going to have all the nurses we need because
there's a major rise in nursing program enrollment.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But there is a caveat there.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
One is most of the rises in private nursing programs
you've gone on see if you go to daytime TV
and you watch it. And I used to not so
much anymore because I don't watch much broadcast TV. But
during the day you'd hear, you'd see commercials about go
to these private schools. They have nursing programs and you
can learn to be the backside nurse in the back
(13:34):
end of the office of the doctors or the front end,
and we'll train you to do that. And you can
spend four thousand dollars for a semester and get some
kind of a certificate.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Things like you pick up the phone and go.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Doctor Smith's office, Can I help you? And it tells
you how to do that and how to calendar and
say things like I'll see if doctor is available. Got
to remember those I would call up when I was
practicing and reproducting the reproductive world. I'd be calling doctors
all the time, infertility doctors, and I'd say, is doctor
(14:09):
Smith there? And I go, I'll see if doctor And
then i'd hear, I'll see if doctor is available, tell
him that lawyer is waiting for him.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's just it's just crazy. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You can learn to pick up the phone and say
hello and get a certificate for.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
The front end of a doctor's office.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, it gets a little bit more complicated than that,
and it has to do with a degree in nursing.
Now you can become an RN with a two year
associate's degree. Most our ends or most hospitals high end
doctor's office won a four year bachelor's degree. And therein
(14:50):
is the issue because there are a couple of bills
that are up and running in California trying to be
passed that say let's move and expand license in the
junior colleges for a bachelor's degree. And you know saying
absolutely not cal State, No, no, no, we give out
the bachelor's degrees, not you, you give out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Two year degrees.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
They're actually running scared because they see their program diminishing
and they see their nursing programs, well, they're more expensive.
For one thing, community colleges, especially in the Central.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Valley, where a lot of this is looked at.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
A lot of this is targeted is communities in the
Central Valley that just don't have cal.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
States in the area.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And if someone wants to be a nurse, you know,
and there's a community college a couple miles away. Why
would you have to go to a cal state that's
forty miles away?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And people want a bachelor's degree.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Even though you can go to take the nursing test
with an associate's degree. A bachelor's degree is about a
year more of training. But it's just a better degree.
You get a better job, you are considered more professional, and.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The state system is fighting it. You go, why how
is that possible?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Isn't the educational system in this state about encompassing, about
making our abilities and the opportunities as.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Great as possible.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But it all boils down to, you know what, if
I'm going to get nailed, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
To let that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And if I'm going to lose enrollment because that little
Pittley Junior college down the road we're forty miles away,
is giving bachelor's degree like I do, I'm going to
fight it, come hell or high water. You know, this
goes across medicine and it has gone for years where
everybody has their own turf.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
For example, the whole.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Issue of physicians Assistants PAS, which have a fair amount
of power were the medical community fought that, like crazy,
only doctors should do this, PA should not do these
kinds of examinations and actually diagnosed, only a doctor can
(17:13):
do that. For a PA to prescribe, oh my god,
only doctors can do this, well, the state law changed
and doctors had to suck it up.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And then allowing nurses to.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Prescribe antibiotics I mean nothing crazy, but and allowed to
do sutures which never heretofore was allowed the medical the
medical community fought that, like crazy, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You protect your own turf.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So we've got two bills going up at pretty much
the same thing. One has to do with tuition, capping tuition,
and these are pilot programs and keeping limiting it to
the Central Valley, these pilot programs with the community colleges
and the other in a state wide and they're moving
through the legislature.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And you know, the only argument they.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Have, the cal state systems has you don't need them.
You don't need them because by twenty twenty seven, we're
going to have enough slots open that anybody wants to
be a nurse can go ahead and be a nurse.
Problem is is that a lot of these slots are
for private colleges. And let me tell you what a
bachelor's degree costs in anything at a private college.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, it's a lot of money. So go figure. You know,
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And it makes all that it makes so much sense
to allow bachelor's degrees in nursing in the community college,
so people number one get a better education, number two
have a have better access to better jobs.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now, up until the.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Nineteen eighties, okay, this is recent stuff. You know, our
world was or in and around meals, and eating between
meals was kind of discouraged. Snacking between meals was you know,
that wasn't a good thing, right, Moms wouldn't want you
to do that. It's just it was empty calories. Today,
(19:16):
snacking has superseded supplanted meals. Snacking is more important than meals.
And look at the number of snacks that are out there.
They have exploded, and we've just reached a whole new
level to the point where snacks are pretending to be meals.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And we're actually buying into that. And of course.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Snacks are so healthy for you, fat and salt and sugar.
I wish I had a snack in front of me
that I was munching on right now.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Damn, my timing is horrible.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So Neil, you've seen this happen like crazy because you
pay attention to this, and are you seeing snacking that
is actually advancing by the hour with more being introduced.
We talk about this all the time. The crazier it is,
the more snacks there are.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, they say all the time they being nutritionists, to
eat the outer circumference of the grocery store. That's your
fresh baked goods, that's your produce.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Your meats, your dairy.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Once you get into the inside is where you find
all the snacking section. And as Americans, we've switched through
many different seasons when it comes to eating. You go,
you know, up until the late eighteen hundreds and vegetables
weren't a big deal. People were eating, you know, the
heavier things, dairy meat, oat meal, sugar. These were people
(20:46):
that were working probably in the farms for the most part,
and sometimes it was eating throughout the day, you know,
with a supper and you're not so much lunch, but
you'd have your breakfast. And now we've seen that that
we'd have like you know, pizza bagels become bagel bites,
and pizza's becoming you know, in little pockets or hot pockets.
(21:10):
That or we've made them easier to carry and efficient
to snack on.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But that has happened throughout the centuries.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I mean tacos, taketos, these types of things were often
said to be created because they were easy to handle
and easy to eat while you were working. And as
we become more of a work society here in the
United States where we take very little time off, you know,
more people are snacking and then comfort foods and salt
and all these things.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
By the way, I'm prominent. Yeah, the numbers are extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There was a Harris study that ended in twenty twenty
before the pandemic, and it's now up to ninety five
percent of the population snacks. Half of the respondents say
they consume at least three snacks a day.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Sixty percent say that they like snacking over traditional meals.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I mean snack. Yeah, this is what we do now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We snack and the food is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
It's great tasting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I love snacks, but calories and fat and I mean
all of it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Pre two thousand and eight. Bilt you look, and the
average American doubled their snacking. So back in those days
you're looking at maybe fifty some odd percentage, and as
you just said, twenty twenty, just before the pandemic, it
rose to ninety five percent. You're not going to find
anybody that doesn't snack for the most part.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah. Are you a big snacker? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
All right?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Are you a big snacker?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Amy?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Are you a big snacker?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Cono, can you afford any snacks? No?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, so and I'm a big snacker. So that's one
out of five. But Cono, realistically, are you a big snacker?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Massive?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I see. That's the problem. That is exact. We have
just hit exactly what society is doing in the world
of snacking, and it's in.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
There and we throw breadcrumbs and crackers at Kno like
a pigeon.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And and the obesity issue UH has to be directly
tied UH to snacking. I mean, there's no way around it.
And the fact that it's the salt in the cholesterol
level and all that, I mean, it's terrible stuff. Where
do they what country do they not snack? I would
think France and I don't know. I haven't looked at
any figures doesn't don't have a lot of snacks. Yeah,
(23:42):
but it's but it's not the same as the snacks
that we do. It's not process the way we uh,
the way we have it. I think what in uh
in the Alaska parts of Canada with the Inuit community,
do they have like different kinds of blubber in bags,
(24:02):
different flavored blubber. I don't know if they do or not.
All right, I'm gonna end at that point. You know,
that was a pretty good idea. You know, boy there you.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Know when you walk around the Middle East. Anywhere in
the Middle East, there's red vendors who you just tear
off a piece and you put it in the zatar
and you I mean, there's snacks everywhere, but.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Those are healthy. That's the difference. They're not processing. Yeah,
little bags, big difference.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
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