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March 11, 2025 26 mins
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LAPD cops caught on secret recording using racist and sexist comments, complaint alleges. The REAL cost of backyard eggs. DOJ says many Jan. 6 pardons extend to crimes after that date because of how they were collected. Columbia University student was the first to be arrested by Homeland Security for protests… Trump says it won’t be the last.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
It is a Taco Tuesday, Rainy Taco Tuesday, March eleventh,
And before I dive into what happened with the LAPD
and give you a little bit of handle history.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, now moving on, And this is a story of
racism within the LAPD. And this has been going on
since the turn of the last century. LAPD has a
reputation of being quite possibly historically the most racist police

(01:17):
department in the country and maybe in the South, they
were more but for a fairly liberal area, although southern
California has been at times pretty conservative and so for
the better part of a year, an LAPD officer working
in the recruitment office secretly recorded dozens of conversation in

(01:41):
which fellow cops well racist and derogatory comments against black
police applicants, female colleagues, lesbian and gay coworkers. One Latina
LAPD officer said, you hit black people in the liver.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I heard they got weak livers. Whoever said that? You've
ever heard that?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean, I've heard every racist rant against African Americans
out there.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
We all have really weak livers.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Another described a Latina janitor to her colleagues as a
wet back that we've heard. One referred to a female
supervisor as a gay ass bitch. Black people enjoy grape
soda soda. Another Latino officer black people enjoy watermelon in
between basketball. I mean, you know, insanely racist remarks. And

(02:37):
these are recruitment people they're trying to while the lap
is trying to bring in minorities. This is what's going on.
So these officers are in big, big trouble. Not only
the officers who hurled this invictive stuff. But also there
was a lieutenant supervisor who heard it and didn't do anything.

(03:03):
So they've got some issues. But I want to go
back and talk about the LAPD. The LAPD since its
inception has been known, has a history of astounding racism.
My favorite racist story, and it's not particularly racism per se.
This is not in terms of race, but this is
a socioeconomic kind of racism that during the Great Depression,

(03:25):
the dust Bowl Oklahoma, where people were starving to death,
the farmland disappeared in these huge dust storms, so you
had a lot of these oakis. That's where that term
comes from. From Oklahoma driving in their dilapidated old trucks,
their pickup trucks piled high with furniture. LAPD stopped them

(03:49):
at the border of Nevada and California and Arizona and
New Mexico, stop them right there at the order not
letting them into la because they were Okie's and Los
Angeleos didn't want them around. We've had police chiefs that

(04:11):
were members of the q klux Klan, even storied police chiefs.
William Parker, for example, who was police chief for twenty
years and is Parker Centers named after him.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
A racist of the first.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Water and a ton of officers caught making inappropriate remarks
and straight out beating African Americans. Rodney King was not aberrational.
There is a huge history of that. What happened with
Rodney King is it finally became plu public things like

(04:52):
Chief Daryl Gates, another police chief revered by the rank
and file, declared blacks might die from choke holds because
their arteries do not open as fast as normal people.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
He brought in choke holds. He also he started with when.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Female officers first started going into the force. He wanted
women and men to be held in the same standards
in terms of their physical ability. And he said that
the reason that lesbians are allowed in and going after
lesbians is only lesbians with good upper body strength. I

(05:38):
mean just insanity, the stuff that goes on. And so
here you have a history and you've got at least
remember the Christopher Commission with all the misgivings. By the way,
the FEDS took over LAPD for a while, it was
so bad. So I hope this is going to change

(06:03):
big time, and I think it will.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think it will. The fact is that a cop
recorded that.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know this blue silence, you don't report you protect
other police officers.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's sort of going by the wayside.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
By the way, it's a law now that if police
officer sees what's going on and doesn't report it, that's
a crime in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, one of the things.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I don't know where the hell Neil is, but
I wanted to bring him into this because he cooks
with eggs.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yesterday I had an omelet.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I made an omelet, and what did I pay for
a dozen eggs? Ten bucks for a dozen eggs?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Isn't that? Isn't that special? Well?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Bird flu hit in twenty twenty two, right, the Avian flu,
and since then, one hundred and sixty six million egg
laying eggs hens have been quote cold, which is another
way they've been killed. It's like, you know, for example,
putting your dog to sleep. You do not put your
dog to sleep. You have your dog killed. I mean,

(07:10):
that's the bottom line. Aren't I special?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
With that?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
The price of eggs is predicted to climb forty one
percent higher this year after climbing like crazy, So it's
my ten dollars egg price is going to be fourteen
dollars this year is boy, that's special.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So what are people doing?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, eggs have gotten to the point where either
they're not buying eggs, using fewer eggs, going to restaurants
where some restaurants are charging a surcharge if you have
an egg dish, Well, how about backyard chicken.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Raise your own chickens. That's a simple solution.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And if you look at backyard chicken forums on the internet,
it has exploded. Story on Saturday, Brooke Rowlands, the new
Secretary of Agriculture, in a Fox and Friends interview, said
that raising backyard chickens is an awesome solution to high
egg prices. Okay, so an interview was done, a story

(08:17):
was done with someone who did start a backyard chicken flock. Now,
if you're raising them just to have chickens pecking around
and you like chickens, or you're blind and when a
train of seeing eye chicken.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
That is not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
If you're doing it to get eggs, they're going to
be the most expensive eggs you will ever ever buy
in a lifetime. Because let's go through what's going on
chicken coops. That's kind of mandatory a thousand bucks, give
or take, unless you want to build your own the
chicks themselves. Egg laying chicks are about seventy bucks, and

(09:00):
then they grow, and then you have to feed them,
and so a heating plate to warm the birds because
you gotta have to keep them warm. Then about seven
months after you buy the little chicks, you get your
first egg. And eggs are seasonal because around November the

(09:22):
chickens slow down and then until March there are no
longer any eggs, so you got a few months of
springtime laying. If you have your own chickens, unless you
have your own industrial chicken farm that you have these
huge warehouses with artificial light and kept to a certain temperature,

(09:45):
then you are going.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
To be able to have your own egges.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And the thought of the price is just astronomical. Why
wire eggs or used to be such an inexpensive way
to have protein. I mean, eggs are great food well
economies of scale. Eighty five percent of the table eggs
in the country they are from hens in industrial houses

(10:14):
that contain fifty thousand to three hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hens each each big facility.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Some of these farms can have up to six million
of these chickens. The Department of agri Agriculture refers to
any farm with fewer than ten thousand eggs as smaller.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Now, a backyard flock of three to twenty hens, please,
doesn't even show up. It's not even a speck. Now.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Back in the early nineteen hundreds, when we were a
grarian society, eggs did come from smaller flocks, and it
was typically the housewife who raised eggs and sold them
to her neighbors. And those days are gone, Neil, So
let's talk about eggs for a moment.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You're Are you still using eggs?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Are you paying ten bucks a carton for a dozen
eggs like I do?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Nine something? Yes, indeed we are.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
We still have them, and we haven't switched to different
proteins or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
What can you do at that price? Even in a
bucket egg? What do you do? What do you mean?
I mean, what do you do to supplant it?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
If eggs are protein and you are, what you're doing
is supplanting that protein with some other protein or egg?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Still a decent deal at ten dollars a dozen?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think so, But that you know, our household may
be different. Than other people's households. So for us, it's
an easy way to do it. You could still you
could supplement with beans. Beans are a great protein. You
could supplement with meat and add these different types of
things into your But for us, the amount of eggs

(12:02):
we eat it makes sense, and it's fine, it doesn't
It's not like we're plowing through them, you know, and
having you know where we're getting carton after carton after carton,
carton will last quite a while here.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Usually I don't pay attention at the supermarket. I don't.
It's just not something I do.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I just throw things into the cart because you know,
I make enough so it's not going.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
To affect me.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
So there's two things I pay attention to. One now
the price of eggs, and two when I have a
barbecue and I go to Costco like the other day
and there was some prime beef and I was gonna
barbecue at my daughter's house at twenty six dollars a pound,
then I paid attention.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And with eggs I pay attention. Yeah, I'm not really.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I only pay attention to know what's going on because
of the show. But my wife is very much she
has three or four different grocery stores, including Costco, Smart
and Final and the like, and she goes to them
based on cost and pricing.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, and unfortunately they're Unfortunately there are more and more
people that really do have to be concerned with cost
because food has gotten to be so dear.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
But I still a good bargain. It's same with milk.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
The cost of milk goes up and down, but when
you think about what you're getting, the nutrients, the vitamins,
the protein in these things, to me, I think it's
well worth it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'd rather cut back on something else.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, And I'm a big milk drinker. In the morning
with my coffee, I drink milk. And I always buy
homogenized milk as opposed to raw milk because I don't
want to die because crazy people out there believe in
raw milk. Although I do buy raw eggs.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Go Fike.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, yeah, but you don't eat them that way, Rocky.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Some do.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Some people you know, suck them up, put them in
blenders and make egg drinks and things.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
All right, Okay, story about the Pardons.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
And as as strongly as I felt about the Pardons,
which I thought were completely insane, not all of them,
but certainly, you know, pardoning the cops. You know the
people who are January sixth insurrection, who were beating up cops,
some with an insure of their lives, all pardoned, all
of them heroes, all of them patriots, all of them hostages.

(14:38):
There was no legitimate arrest or conviction. It just didn't happen.
As we know.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well it's it's.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Taken another step and this one man, I mean, come on, okay.
In twenty twenty one, the skuy Elias Constianus was the
FBI raided his house and they found cocaine to stop costerone.
I guess he had some issues marijuana, scale guns.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Prosecutors said he was a drug dealer. He was also armed.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Now he said he was merely supplying himself and friends.
So last September, a federal judge sentenced him to a
year and a day in prison. He pleads guilty to
possessing a gun while using illegal drugs. But Costianus brings
up a new card and this is on appeal right now.

(15:31):
He was part of the Capitol riot on January sixth.
President Donald Trump had pardon him for that, and he's
saying that the pardon also covered his gun conviction because
the FBI raid was related to his actions on January sixth,

(15:52):
and guess what the government did.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Department of Justice agreed with him, said.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yep, that pardon extend did to what you were picked
up for seven cases around the country. Department of Justice
has argued that separate criminal actions uncovered by the investigation
in January sixth are covered by Trump's pardon, and unrelated charges,
usually for illegal gun possession, should be dismissed. Now in

(16:20):
these cases, federal prosecutors initially opposed wiping away those unrelated
felony convictions. They argued on appeal, you can't do that
because they're unrelated. That's what federal prosecutors did Washington, d c.
And within weeks they changed their mind completely, reversing themselves,
saying that they receive quote, further clarity on the intent

(16:44):
of the presidential pardon from the Justice Department, saying the
president intended to pardon Costianus for crimes activities not related
to that specific day. Now, the executive order that he
signed pardoning about sixteen hundred basically everybody, the sixteen hundred

(17:07):
January sixth defendants, says right there in the executive order,
the pardon applies only to convictions for offenses related to
events that occurred at or near the United States Capital
on January sixth. Okay, Now, his lawyers and the Justice

(17:28):
Department now are arguing that this was Trump's intent to
basically pardon him, to incorporate all of it, and the
courts should defer to the executive's reasonable interpretation of the
pardon language.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Now, it's with the courts, right, it's with a judge.
Department of Justice is right there.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
The position of the government is that those January sixth
defendants are were heroes, they were all patriots, they were
all hostages, and they are all victims of the weaponization
of the Department of Justice. And the position of the
department is that crimes that are quote not related, they're

(18:12):
saying are related.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
And when the judges are asking saying, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
You are arguing that this was the president's intent, and
this is too the Department of Justice, and they're saying, yep,
this was the president's intent. Based on what it's the
president's intent, because we say it's the president's intent, and
it is up for us to make that decision based

(18:39):
on what we believe was the president's intent. By the way,
the White House isn't saying it was Trump's intent. Even
the White House isn't gonna go that far, but the
Department of Justice is. And you know, just here's one
Jeremy Brown by his misdemeanor of January sixth was dismissed,

(19:01):
but he was convicted in twenty twenty two of possessing
classified material illegally possessing short barreled guns live M sixty
seven hand grenades.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
All discovered during a search.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And he is arguing, after your sentenced to seven years,
he appealed, the conviction is now awaiting oral arguments, and
the government is on his side. And you have his
defense attorney and the government saying yes, the pardon included
those charges, even though he was convicted separately, and originally

(19:43):
the prosecutor said, no, this is separate, and he was
prosecuted and convicted. Now the government has changed his mind
and said the pardon includes pardoning him.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
So it's the judge. She's gonna go no matter of fact.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
The judge asked his lawyer why that pardon covered the
Florida case, his Florida case, and the attorney for the
Just Department said because the Department of Justice has determined
that it covers that, and the judge says that is
not a completely satisfactory answer. So you know, I mean,

(20:19):
can it get any crazier? I mean, I will reach
the point where anybody who is a Trumps supporter gets
off the hook. If I get convicted of a federal crime,
I'm going to prison. If I stand here or sit
here and I talk about what a great guy Trump
is and how God really did save him to save America.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I'm off the hook. Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now a story about the Trump administration and going after
folks that they don't like, and in this case, for
the most part, I sort of agree and disagree. And
this happens to be with dealing with the case of
Columbia University student Mahmud Khalil, arrested by Homeland Security for

(21:11):
his participation in the pro palest Indian demonstrations on the
Columbia campus. President Trump said this would not be the
last one. He said, we know there are more students
at Columbia and other universities across the country who have
engaged in pro terrorists, anti Semitic, anti American activity, and

(21:31):
the Trump administration will not tolerat it this is Trump.
In a social and social media post, the Education Department
said Monday yesterday it sent letters to sixty schools warning
of potential enforcement actions if they don't fulfill the obligations
to protect Jewish students, and Columbia has become a ground zero.

(21:53):
The other thing that Trump administration does. You can kiss
goodbye for one hundred million dollars worth of grants and
contracts Columbia has. Now, this is an issue of someone
who has a green card, whose wife is an American citizen,
who's still a student at Columbia graduate program, and he

(22:19):
was arrested for what he did. Here's his problem is
he occupied the library at Columbia. His organization stopped Jewish
students from going to class.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Graduation was canceled because of this.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now does he have the right to stay here pending
a conviction. Absolutely, And a judge just agreed with that
because he was about to be deported. But the issue is, oh,
it's First Amendment. First Amendment. Hey, occupying libraries is not
first Amendment. I mean, you may think it is because
you have a legitimate bitch, but I don't buy it.

(23:00):
By the way, to Palestinian pro Palestinian students and people
have a right to They can protest all they want.
Can they go on campus, No, they're trespassing. Can they
occupy buildings, No they can't. And Trump, who is a
big fan of Israel, has delineated anti Semitism as the

(23:22):
poster child of what he wants to do in terms
of political discourse.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
And political opposition. He says, I won't take it. It's
all there is to it. Now. The universities, frankly, have been.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Anti Israel universities, the professors have been pro Palestinian across
the country.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
That's just the way they roll.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
They're super left wing, and for some reason, the left
wing loves the Palestinians and hates Israel because of the occupation,
because of the underdog, and for so many people. By
the way, if you ask him, the occupation has been
going on nineteen forty eight, when Israel became a state
and Israel invaded Gaza, he'll say absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Ask him about October seventh, that did well? Did that happen?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
And you deflect. I want to talk about the occupation.
How about twelve hundred Israeli's murdered. It's the occupation.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
We have to talk about.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
And that's the part that just riles me because if
you look at what's going on, have you seen one
pro Palestinian organization talk about October seventh and not October eighth?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
One? I haven't.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I mean, I'll buy the argument of occupation, you know,
yes or no. Israel says it's for national security. The
pro Palestinians, the Palestinians there argue it's about occupation and
putting the Arabs down. Okay, I got it. You know
it's a legitimate argument. But you know, admit what happened,
Admit the murder of twelve hundred people, just arbitrarily, you know,

(25:09):
admit that you're holding innocent hostages. No, no, no, it's
all about occupation. So now, does he have a right
to stay here penning a conviction? Absolutely, and then they
should deport his ass. By the way, green card is
not the right to stay here. The green card is

(25:32):
a permission to stay here by the government, and it
could be yanked at any time. Now granted for legal reasons,
and there is a legal argument, but until there is
a citizenship uhuh, you can be tossed.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And if you are a citizen, you're an American citizen.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But if you have applied under fraudulent circumstances, then you
can get tossed. And I think as an American citizen,
I don't think you can get deported. Even if you're
arrested for treason or seditious insurrection I do, or seditious conspiracy.

(26:11):
I think you still have to be tried as an
American I think, and you can't be deported. Okay, enough
of that. KFI AM six forty you've been listening to
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