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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Here it is a taco Tuesday, November eighteenth rain. Yeah,
pretty much this week some of the big stories we're
looking at. The House is set to vote today on
that bill seeking to force the release of the Jeffrey
Epstein case files. It's going to go. The President went
one to eighty on that one because obviously the political
pressure was way way too much that overcame his reluctance
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to release the files. Now he wants to release the files,
but he wants to vote even though he can make
a phone call, and the files were released immediately. Very
complicated stuff, all right, Moving to what happened yesterday. If
we go back thirty years and for those of us
that were around thirty years ago and knew about the news,
the oj Simpson case the trial of the century nine
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months and it was covered literally wall to wall by
I think CNN was covering it, and it was just
completely insane in terms of its news. And Oja was acquitted,
which really interesting. The majority of white people said he
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was guilty, the majority of black people said he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
VOI did that go down racial lines.
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Anyway, he was acquitted of the crime and then he
was sued by the Goldman family.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
If you remember, that was not Ron.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Ron is the father, I think right, Oh my god,
did I just forget the kid's name?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now Fred is the father.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Ron was the kid who was killed as well as
Nicole Brown at the doorstep of her condo. In any case,
there was a civil lawsuit and he was found guilty.
That's OJ was found liable, not guilty, a thirty three
million dollar hit. The Goldman family got that kind of
an award, which JOJ never paid. I mean, there was
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some memorabilia that was sold off and maybe three hundred
thousand dollars that was paid out of a thirty three
million dollar award. So the fight has continued on, the
judgment has been still there, and finally the OJ Simpson
estate has agreed to pay fifty eight million dollars. That's
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thirty three million plus interest to the Goldman family. And
everybody's jumping up and down, isn't that wonderful? Well, the
reality there's not going to be any money. The Simpson estate,
according to the state lawyer, has more debts than it
has assets. And even if you look at all the assets,
it's six hundred thousand dollars maybe, and so there's not
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going to be much money there. It's a pyrrhic victory.
But they didn't give up. The Goldmans did not give up.
They have kept going to them. It is a moral issue.
They want some kind of judgment or justice, and so
the judge overseeing the case. This is back two thousand
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and eight in this where he was found guilty. By
the way, he was charged in Nevada with kidnapping, arm
robbery and other charges because he wanted to collect memorabilia
that he said was stolen from him. So he went
after the purported bad guys who probably did it, and
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he came in with a gun and got nailed for that,
and he did nine years in prison for that. Now
you would think that his income right. You've heard, for example,
of the irs garnishing wages and if I get a
judgment against you, I can garnish wages.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Not Nevada.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Those are protector At least pensions are protected, and holmes
are protected, and cars are protected.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Here. If you have a car.
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Worth one hundred thousand dollars and I have a judgment,
I can rabbit, not in Florida where he lives. So
you can have a million dollar Maserati, you can have
a twenty five million dollar home and it can't be
touched with a judgment. So here we are, thirty three
years later and some sense of justice. Now a quick story,
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and this is why OJ was still alive. I remember
going to some event I don't know, I don't remember
exactly where or exactly when.
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But the part that I remember vividly was OJ was there.
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And the people lining up to get his autograph and
owing and aweing, and OJ were just sign this please.
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He was a hero. It was this. It was if
he was a major star, still with no blemish at all.
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And I'm looking at this and these are young women
in their and thirties, both black and white, and I'm
thinking this guy committed to murders. In my mind there
was there's absolutely no issue. By the way, I was one.
I think I was on CBS at the time. I
was a commentator on CBS every day until they kicked
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me off because they didn't like what I was saying.
Yeah so much. Yeah, I get kicked off a lot
of panels. No surprise there, all right. The good news
in the world of the Kamas Israel war. A US
drafted UN resolution endorsing the President's got as a peace
plan passed in the Security Council overwhelmingly. It passed and
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unanimously except for China and Russia who just they abstained
from the vote, and it provides a legal mandate for
key parts of the plan of the President's plan, including
persuading other countries to provide troops for an international security force.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's pretty good news.
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Several countries have voted in favor, still sought commitments that
would they be watching carefully to see the progress because
they're being asked to advance the cause or advance the plan,
and asked to provide troops for the international force now
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turning in their weapons as the peace planned demands. Hamas
said that must remain an internal national matter. In other words,
they will decide whether to give up their weapons, which
of course Camas is going to say no to. The
plan also calls for the eventual establishment of a Palestinian state. Nettagna,
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who says that will never happen. There will be no
Israeli or there will be no Palestinian state.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So while the peace plan is it's great news, and
it was done under because of the pressure of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's no issue about that.
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And so this international Peace Organization, which by the way,
will be headed by President Trump and the members will
be selected by President Trump. It truly is a Trump plan,
and initial elements of the plan.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Actually it's already a ceasefire.
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The hostages, the Israeli hostages held by Hamas.
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Have been received released.
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Expansion of humanitarian aid to Gaza is happening, at least partially.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Now.
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There's a story in the La Times that I read
this morning that famine is now part of what's going
on in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Israel says that's an utter lie.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Israel says that there is unbridled, total allowance of humanitarian aid.
They're not getting in the way of humanitarian aid whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That is a crock.
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And I'll say about schooling, you know, one of the
things we don't talk about very much. We talk about
humanitarian aid not going there. There are kids, most of
the kids in guys that have not been in school
for two years. There's been no education and there are
no schoolrooms left. Now we're talking about medicines being brought
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in and food being brought in. How about school supplies?
Those aren't being brought in? And where do the kids
go to school? Most of the kids are not in school,
they don't have the facilities. I mean you talk about
a generation. I mean this is it will literally take
Gaza a generation or more to come back to normal.
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Israel is not helping. They're getting in the way of it.
Israel has committed war crime in my opinion, there's no
question about it. Of course, the war in Gaza started.
You know, is anybody at Hamas in the organization said hey,
maybe we shouldn't have done this attack. You think we
guessed wrong on this one. You think that maybe the
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people of Gaza would suffer, that they have any doubts
what Israel would do. And the thinking was that once
the terrorist attack happened, the Arab world would then just
start up its attack on Israel. The entire Arab world
would join for forces to destroy Israel. What were they thinking?
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I mean, what planet were these people on. The problem
is is that now it's a question of bringing back
Gaza to some sense of statehood. Israel is not helping
at all. And the two major parts of the peace
plan that is Hamas, the Hamas not having any more weapons,
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giving up their weapons, no longer becoming a military force,
and the Palestinian state Hamas says it will decide about
the weapons, which means it'll never give up the weapons.
And the Palestinian state will never happen as long as
Nettaignahu in a right wing government are in place. So
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two points of that Peeps plan are not in good
shape and may never happen. But for the most part,
at least the world is on the same page. The
UN Security Council and I think most of the world
believes that a Palestinian state. I do, and let me
tell you, I'm not particularly pro Hamas, if you've noticed
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over the last couple of years, but I think the
Palestinians deserve a state. The problem is there a lot
of Palestinians. They think that their state is in is
part of Israel, that Israel should cease to exist. That's
a little problematic too, because you think that's going to happen.
There were still a ways away from a peace plan
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that actually is going to expand into a real peace plan.
All right, all right, we go back to nineteen ninety
two and nineteen ninety two through nineteen ninety six, and
the war between Croatia and Serbia was going full blast.
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It was a civil war, and astounding criminality had occurred,
I mean straight war crimes where eleven thousand people were killed,
many many civilians, and it was the Bosnian Serb that
committed The Serbs committed these atrocities, even to the point
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where the head of the army was tried for crimes
against humanity and was given twenty.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Years in prison. Here's what's come out of this.
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Italy's Public Prosecutor's office has just opened up an investigation
into claims that Italians traveled on weekends sniper safaris to
Sarajevo to shoot at citizens during the Serb army siege
on the city that killed more than eleven thousand people.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Now, wait a minute, hold on. We know.
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That the Bosnian Serbs were targeting civilians.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
If you remember stories.
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Of kids crossing streets to go to school were targeted
and killed in droves. It was virtually the entire country
was a killing zone. It was completely insane, and we
all know what was happening. Of course, was it Radovich
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who said, oh no, that's not happening. And Or Carriagi said,
denied it, that was not happening. He was the one
that was convicted. And there were stories that were confirmed
of thousands of men lined up and slaughtered, much like
what happened during World War Two with the Jews. Literally
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thousands and open pits that were slaughtered. And this story
is amazing, just incredible. During nineteen ninety two through nineteen
ninety six, the Bosnian Serb army was attacking the Croatian population.
Eleven thousand people had died, and in Sarajevo there was
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a place called Sniper Alley where snipers would be in
the buildings and shoot at anybody, civilians, kids.
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And now the prosecutor's office.
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Is opening this investigation because Italians are being accused of
traveling on weekends to the sniper safaris to shoot at
citizens during the siege on the city. I mean, that's
completely crazy. I mean the allegations came after a journalist
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and a novelist with a couple of lawyers who looked
into this, filed the legal complaint of murder aggravated by
cruelty and despicable motives against these Italians traveling on the
sniper safaris.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Evidence was turned over, and the investigator who's there said,
because we're talking about wealthy people with reputations, entrepreneurs who
during the siege paid to be able to kill defenseless civilians.
I mean, you know how upset do we get when
Safaris go out and kill animals in Africa and the
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amount of money that was paid. Can you imagine paying
to kill people? There were even price lists. According to
La Republica, which is a very well regarded newspaper, the
safari tourists paid up to one hundred thousand dollars adjusted
for inflation to join these trips. And these price lists
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actually included the type of kill that foreigners would pay,
children costing the most, Men, women and elderly could be
killed free of charge. I mean, that's almost unbelievable. It's
the inhumanity, the depravity.
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I mean, this reminds us of the Holocaust.
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It's a seventeen page filing, including the testimony of a
Bosnian military intelligence officer who said that he and colleagues
informed elderly about this. That Italians would fly from tries
to Sarajevo to take part in early nineteen ninety four,
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and the Italian Intelligence Service didn't do a damn thing
about it. Serbia has of course denied any involvement, but
investigators are aware that, of course Italy was involved or
certainly allowed it to happen or knew it was happening.
And there are photos of this Sniper Alley photo project,
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and we saw what was going on, We saw newsreels
of this, and it's believed citizens of multiple countries took part.
I mean, it is It's almost impossible to believe it. Now.
These were gun nuts who did this, obviously depraved. I
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may even call them human beings, because human beings don't
do this. I mean, human beings don't go go out
and shoot animals on safaris in Africa anymore.
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I mean, can you believe this? If this is true?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And it looks like there's tons of evidence, I mean
tons that are there. And my dad was Yugoslav He
was part of Croatia during the war and the atrocities
that happened there, but that were the Nazis that were
coming in that when after Serbs, Serbs are Muslim and
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the Croatians are Catholic. And Bill Clinton, by the way,
when he attacked Serbia straight out attacked Serbia for no
other reason than to save serbs. It's one of the
defining moments of his presidency in which it was a
straight humanitarian decision, no politics were involved. I mean, this
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is really crazy. This is is KFI AM sixty.
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