October 18, 2025 • 32 mins
We have spooky and historic stories from the Disney Mansion by CEO of MiceChat.com, Dusty Sage , PLUS Disney Villains: Devilishly Delicious Cookbook by Julie Tremaine has some really cook recipes. PLUS there is something spooky going down at Bowers Museaum. It's all on KFIAM-640!
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Can't six forty live everywhere on the eye Heart Radio app. Hey, everybody,
it's the Forker Port all things food, beverage and beyond
with our Halloween panel today.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Ernie a.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Lonzo from Haunted OC to Dusty Sage, CEO of mice
chat dot com, also does some fabulous tours we're going
to talk about at the Disney Mansion in Los Phelis.
Julie Tremaine, journalist extraordinary and cookbook author. You write Forsfgate
as well, right, or is that something you did before?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I'm the theme park editor for a Sefgate out of
San Francisco, and everyone asked me if that means I
live in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I do not.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I live much much closer to Disneyland. I certainly couldn't
do my job. I couldn't get to Disneyland several times
a week.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I would imagine there's well, there are you know,
theme parks up north, but not like.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hare not not like not like not it's not like Universal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, it's like all these things that were We really
are blessed. I mean it is probably seven minutes from
our place on the eastern side of Los Angeles to Universal.
So yeah, so it's like, you know, we go. My
wife and boy were there yesterday, and we're very lucky
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we've got passes to these places and be able to
go here in southern California. And that's something all you,
all three of you have in common, is you guys
like to go to all of these things. Now is
Haunted season. Have you guys been up and out to
all of the different whether they're at the theme parks
or one offs, and.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not just here.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
We've been all over the country already because Halloween meial
now starts in August.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh boy, can you.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Believe it's still one hundred degrees in humid outside and
we're all putting on our Halloween colors and going to
haunted houses and haunted theme parks all over.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's so odd.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, well, I think that's probably the beginning of August
was when I start my YouTube consumption changes to people
making spooky props. I love, you know, the lighting techniques
and all of these things that change every single year.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Have you seen anything, whether.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's a theme or an effect, that just blew your
mind this year's.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Offerings? What do you think, Julie.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I think that the appetite for really intense, immersive horror
is bigger than it's ever been before. And at Universal
Orlando and at Universal Studios Hollywood, it's Halloween Horror nights
right now. It's funny that you were saying, oh, we're
starting Halloween early. We've both started Halloween the last week.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Of August and it has been Halloween every day since then.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
And I wouldn't have it any other way but that
at both Universal Halloween Horror nights they have this year.
Terrifier Y is hands down the scariest house I have
ever seen on either coast, not just scary wise, not
just jump scares and terror, but just the level of
intensity of disgusting cares, the visceral, the smells, sensations.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay, so you just hit a key that more and
more I'm noticing that things are becoming more odorific.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, and I did.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I never thought of it. I mean, you think about
that in certain you know that, whether it was the
original King Kong ride at Universal with the banana smell
when he's grown, things like that, but I'm hearing, no,
the smell of really disgusting.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Thing's horrifying right absolutely right into it.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
But you know, aside from the horror that everybody's into,
I'm also seeing a lot more comedy in the haunted
houses everywhere, and that's a nice release. So some of
the houses are really terrifying and others have a lot
of comedy in them. The Alvira House last night at
the Haunted hay Ride was pretty funny, and even Universal
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has now funny mases. They do ghostbusters and things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
This year Five Nights at Freddy's was a really wonderful counterballance.
So you have terrifier, which is the scariest you can
possibly get, but that's not for everyone. Some people want
that Five Nights at Freddy's. It's you know, puppets, it's
Chuck e cheese style puppets that maybe they're gonna kill you,
but they'll sing you a song first.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, serve you with pizza. I like that. That's how
I want to go out, Little pizza and some songs.
Good night, Irene.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
But I think my point is more just like the
level of immersion is the designers of these mazes are saying,
how can we make them an even more heightened experience
for everyone?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So no more black walls? Yeah? No, well everything but
the mazes are there, they're rooms there, rock and they're yeah,
and it's different because I loved it all.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I remember the black wall mazes everywhere. But really, now
unless you have something tactile about that where the darkness
is important to the you know, kind of the emptiness
you're feeling you're walking through movies.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's so true and really well done.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How is it nots this year has At eleven pm,
they turn off all the lights and you walk through
in the pitch black.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
With a flashy through in the pitch black.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'm not walking through in the pitch black, but they
give you a flashlight so you can illuminate the set yourself.
That's weird, and you're in a haunted zoo with you know,
killer animals, and you have a flashlight.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And a gun, your wits, okay, and machete. Just the flashlight,
just the flashlight a real heavy brick, No, just the
flash light. They need to make sure they quick kneel
through security. Yeah, can we get a bag check on
this day? Clean Cliang coming out? I'm like, there's nothing
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in there.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Stop checking, don't go any lower that the you talked
about the Terrifier. That is that the clown? Okay, so
who's you know, a clown? Already you're starting off bad.
But the gore, I know there's some you know, there's
also some other scatological type of things in certain it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Get that bad, does it.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
You are really dancing around what you want us to say.
Nobody wants to say it. But it's true that the
most disgusting room in any haunted house I've ever been
in is the bathroom scene in Terrifier.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Gross.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It smells real, real bad. It smells as bad as
you could possibly imagine smell.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, it looks as bad as I have five brothers
and only one sister. So it's worse than anything I
can amende worse, Wow, worse?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How do you think they get those odors?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thanks Jernie. Nice addition, Hey, how do you think they
make that stink man? I got a couple of bums
in the back room. I got something for you. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I don't know that that's my speed. But the
whole uh, you know, five Night at Freddy's. The concept
if you will have been if you don't know about
this listening, imagine you know, Chuck E Cheese going bonkers,
and the animatronics going bonkers and some you know, some
backstories that are creepy. But it does have a humor
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side to it because it's a bear.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
And one of the big gags throughout that maze is
they have this killer cupcake that keeps jumping out at
you from the walls. This cute little cupcake, but people
still scream because something's jumping out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, let me tell you. They made that cupcake.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That's one of the Halloween treats they have this year
and it is really delicious. Oh, they have the killer cupcake.
It won't murder you, except probably with diabetes.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But if you gotta go though, the sugars is a
nice way I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's the silent killer I'll take that. Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So they are getting and even the effects whether it's
projection or digital you know, animatronics, all these different things.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
They're really multi layered now at Haunted actions all over.
Last night we were at Haunted hay Ride, which is
a small, you know, lower budgets experience in the Hollywood
Hills in Griffith Park Park and it's wonderful. But they
are using projection and digital screens in their mazes, and
so it shows you that the technology is spreading.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh I did.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I was the head of last year for my son's
schools Haunted House that they do every year, and I
had rear projection and all kinds of stuff all over
the place and animatronics in that and that was for school.
That type of thing to me, there are so many
unique ways to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We'll come back, we'll talk some stories.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We'll also squeeze some fun maybe spooky stories out of Dusty.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
You tell a great story, sir. I have been breathless
during one of your tours listening and and so we'll
get into some of those things and what's going on
in southern California for Halloween. We'll talk about food.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Some more with Julie and some more haunted fun with
the tours from Ernie as well.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So go know where.
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And all of that. So every dollar helps and we
appreciate that. It is our starting of the Halloween season
for us. We have Ernie Alonso with Haunted OC. Dusty Sage,
who's the CEO not only of mice chat dot com,
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which I highly recommend for Disney fans, but also gives
tours at the Disney Mansion and others. Julie Tremaine, journalist,
cookbook author, and her book that we're going to be
talking about more today is Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
As we talk about this season, Let's see, we only
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have about two minutes in this segment. Dusty, is there
a booky story, haunted story you can tell us in
that time?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
When I started working at the mansion, I had no
idea that the house was haunted. I was the Disney
Mansion in the Hollywood Hills. I just knew the stories
and I was giving history tours. And one day the
owner called me to say, you know, are you going
to be sleeping.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In the house tonight?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And I said, yeah, if you don't mind, because I'm
going to be here for a few days. And he said,
if I were you, I wouldn't sleep upstairs in the
yellow room. So of course I went upstairs and I
slept in the yellow room, and all night long, I
kept feeling like I was going to have a heart attack.
And I had my two little dogs with me, two
little shelties, and I woke up in the middle of
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the night just feeling this horrible pressure in my chest.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
This is it.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I'm gonna call nine to one one. I'm definitely having
a heart attack. And the minute I opened my eyes,
the dogs started baying like they were wolves, and it
scared the Bejesus out of me, and I thought maybe
somebody was looking into the house. I grabbed a bat
and at the end of this whole scenario, police come.
They look at the house, nothing and I suddenly realize
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dogs see things people don't. And maybe it wasn't someone
in the house with something in the house, and maybe
the owner just telling me don't sleep in the yellow
room did it. But since that day, I've been afraid
to sleep upstairs in the house because.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, so I'm thinking, you go up, you go up
the stairs, they curl the shape that the round shape,
the spiral shape that goes up is is that the main,
it's the it's the Walt Disney's eldest daughter's bedroom. Oh okay,
so that's that's as you go up off to the
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right somewhere yep, until it's the first of the two
girls rooms.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
And it's kind of a creepy room, has some creepy
old dolls and things in it.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Dolls. Why is it always got to be dolls? Dolls?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
But yeah, and to this day when I talk about it,
Teamore just laughs because you know, no one in.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Their own ever sleep in that room.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Because okay, but why did it can't find its way
into another room?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's right. The ghosts need to leave because I need
to get a good night.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But that's what I'm saying, Like why a room? Like,
aren't you afraid of any room?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
At that point, I O, Well, I am definitely afraid
of a lot of the rooms in the house at
night when I'm alone and when I'm giving tours or
there during the day. It's just charming and amazing, but
there's no denying the shadows and the noises and popping sound.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That house is haunted, even the Disney House. You can't
get away with it being unhaunted. You just can't gosh,
thanks Obama. That's a joke he made. He made Disney's
Houses haunted.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I just know it to somebody has Yeah, great, probably
Hannah Barbera putting some sort of curse on it. That
is so weird. Not to mention the thought of Shelty's
howling at the moon, of Shelty's terrifying Little Shelty. Yeah,
that's a never heard anybody call them terrifying before. It's
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like the most terrifying Chihuahua you've ever seen. All right,
back with more on our guest panel today, Ernie Alonzo,
Dusty Sage, and Julie Tremaine, as we talk all things
Halloween moving into the season Disney Villains is the book
Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We'll be talking more when we return.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
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Speaker 3 (15:33):
Thanks for hanging out today.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We're starting out the Halloween season, the spooky season with
a great panel today Ernie Alonso from Haunted OC, Dusty Sage,
who's the CEO of mice chat dot com but also
gives tours both haunted and historical throughout Southland, including the
Disney Mansion Julie Tremaine, which is like, you have to
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be a writer with the name Julie Tremaine.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I actually share a name with the big bad in Cinderella. Also,
oh wow, the evil stepmother is Lady Tremaine. Oh my gosh,
ask me where my villain villain origin story started.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was right there. You're all done and done.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I accept this author, journalist and cookbook author. The book
that we've been talking about is her book, Disney Villains
Devilishly Delicious Cookbook. Now, I got to imagine writing a cookbook.
One of the hardest things is editing for space, Like
did you have a bunch of recipes and have to
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edit them down?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
There were a lot more villains that I wanted to
include in the book I had. I had a recipe
in mind for a cake that was themed after Monstro
from you where it was just a blue cake and
you it was like a belly of the whale cake.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Were you cut it? Yes? Yes, yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it opens his mouth and just just like the
killer cupcake, No, were you cut it? And then all
the all this candy comes out because like came out
of the stomach of the whale.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh that's cool, but I didn't get to do it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So if anybody wants me to write a second Disney
Villain's book, that'll be in it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, I as we were talking, because I don't have
a copy of it. As we were talking, I went
on Amazon and bought it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I'm hoping it does well enough that you do
a second one.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Why not. It's it's very fun.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It's I never know what the next project is going
to be, and they've taken me in some very interesting directions,
usually haunted, creepy directions, which is fine by me.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm very happy about it. Who is your who's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's say above the fold famous Disney villain, and then
who's your favorite below the fold?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Well, I above the fold, I'm moleficent. I feel like
we are just soul sisters. We're just I feel like
we really get each other. The ability to turto.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
A purple dragon.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
But no, Lady Tremaine, I love her. She's she an
a stage and Risella. They don't show up in the
parks very often at Halloween times. Sometimes they do, which
makes me really happy. But every time I see them,
I'm like, we have to take a family photo.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah, I used to do, you know, the Evil
Queen and stuff like that. I take pictures and post
it and say, enjoy the park with my wife today.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But she likes the villains.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
To my wife is very She kind of like you know,
likes go to the beat of her own drum. And
she always seems to act like the bad person or
the villain is the good one, and she'll explain to
you why this is why they're misunderstood. So what's one
of your favorite recipes in the book that ties the
maleficent maleficent?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I made a I made a trifle which is one
of those layered kind of putting your cake in different
layers of custards. And it's called the Mistress of All
Evil Trifle. And the layers are black and purple and green,
so it's very dark chocolate cake and then statio pudding
and then purple with cream.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Wow. And did you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Create the recipes for the individual based on inspiration saying
what would what would this tie into or was it
a visual queue or a flavor queue that made you
go down that path?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, foods don't really figure into very many Disney movies.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
It's tied to villains specifically, Like you don't see villains
eating very often.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You see Hades eating his like cup of worms, which is.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
In the book actually, but there's otherwise, there's not a lot,
like Mother Gothal makes hazelnut soup for Rapunzel Entangled.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But other than that, it was really tough. So I
just watched.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I watched the movies, and certain phrases would stick out
to me, where like in Sword in the Stone, when
what's the name of the the woman you're not helping me,
you're a Disney editor.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I could see her at a mimic Madam Madam them.
She they have that.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
She and Merlin have that like wizard off and they
turn each other into things and she turns into like
a stick dragon. I made a chicken soup that would
heal a sick dragon, or I love it. At one
point she Marilyn, I think opens the windows, and she says,
I hate horrible wholesome sunshine. So I made a horrible
wholesome sunshine salad, which is a very citrus forward salad.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh I love it, so yeah. So the inspiration come
from some of the text or some of the context
of the.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, some of the things they say really spark spark
food ideas.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I love that and so and I love that you
have like the deep cut villains too, because you know,
there's nothing back when Disney would have the Villain's Night.
I always liked when there was a villain that I
had to go, wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I know that where that's from. And even some of
the newer ones that I was less familiar with or
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my son would go, oh, I know who that is.
But they really, especially in the early days, really had
such a beautiful way of showing the villains the sharp angles,
the dark colors, yeah, and all those things that they're
hard not to fall in love with.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, and the freedom that they can sort of do
what they want. They have more agency over their own
actions than the heros, because the heroes are sort of
bound by I don't know the rules of right and
what I'm saying. The villains are doing the right thing.
I'm saying that they can follow their bliss and they
there's something appealing in that.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Some of the early ones were really beautiful and elegant,
you know, proper.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, that, you know what, the evil queen in the
mirror like, she's she's a beautiful lady, she's got a
real she's got riz.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think actually she would have been the one I
hit on in my day. You know, that would have been, Hey,
what's with all the anger you feel like you've got?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's like I'm the guy that looks and sees someone
smiling and say, hey, why don't you frown.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That happy about?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But it's it is funny that you say, well, they're
all bound by that morality. Like in Superman seventy seven
when the three Batties come down and they're looking like, oh,
he cares about them, like the humans, that's his problem,
Flick one of them.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Look what he does.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
He freaks out about these humans. And so yes, it
is a problem caring. I guess that is a problem
in deed. All right, stick around. It is our Halloween show.
As we talk with our panel today. Throughout the entirety
of this show, we have Earnie Alonso from Haunted OC
and that's just haunted OC dot com. Right, yep, haunted
oc dot com. If you want to go on a
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tour here in Southern California and talk about great date night,
or if you're one of those more cerebral people, like
a great experience going to make you think about something
or experiencing something, a great way to do it. Dusty Sage,
CEO of mice chat dot com find all things Disney
and on there, including finding out that Dusty also does
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tours at the Disney Mansion here in Hollywood slash Los Felis.
And there are some interesting twists and turns in that,
and it is fabulous I went last year. And then
of course Julie Tremaine, journalist and cookbook author. The book
is Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook. You can find that
on Amazon or your better bookstores.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Happy Saturday to you, Neil Savadra. Here of course, with
the Fork Report, we're starting off the Halloween season with
a panel today that we'll get back to in a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Ernie Alonzo from.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Haunted OC, Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Dot com Alting's Disney and beyond.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He also does some fantastic tours we'll be talking about
at the Disney Mansion. In the Hollywood Hills slash Los
Phelis area where he raised his family and Julie Tremaine
a journalist and cookbook author. Not only is she a
journalist for SFGate dot com, which is great. I've used
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the stories many times on the show that's so funny,
but she also has a cookbook, Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook,
that you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Can find on Amazon as well. I got my copy today.
I went on there. It's very simple, that bezos.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He just.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Just going there and you click, and ain't it easy?
Wouldn't want to be married to him. But as far
as getting a book, it's pretty simple. So we'll get
to that in a minute. But I want to remind
you that the added excitement of the Disneyland Resorts seventieth celebration,
the parks are stunning right now. The food is popping.
They have so many different new recipes and fun things
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for the holidays. The Happiest Halloween has brought spooky thrills
and chills to both Disney California Adventure Park and Disney
Land Park now through October thirty. First offerings subject to
restrictions and change without notice.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, Ernie you're up, sir, A couple.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We just got a couple of minutes here, give us
a rundown. You've got something starting this week at Bower's Museum.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, we do an annual tour for them. It's I
think it's our fifth year doing it now, and so
that kicks off this Thursday night at seven pm.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Is it haunted there?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It is haunted most museums, you know, they've got so
many artifacts and collections that carry attachments of spirit attachments
they say. And so this is cool because the reason
we got involved with them is they reached out to
us and asked if we would be interested in developing
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a tour for them. And while we were doing that,
we had to interview a lot of the staff there
and I would say about percent had had experiences in
the museum where especially people like night guards and you know,
security people that are are there after hours that would
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experience phenomenon. And so our tour we're I think we're
doing seven nights there Thursdays, and then we have a
October thirtieth tours, our last one before Halloween. And then
of course we have Old Town Orange, which is our
oldest location and that's in if you're familiar with Orange
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County in the Little Plaza area, old Town Orange. And
then we have downtown Santa Ana. Let's see, we have
San Juan Capistrano, so we kind of go around the
mission there in the Los Rios district, which is the
one of the oldest neighborhoods in California.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Do you find the missions haunted?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, the Missions has a lot of ghost stories associated
with it, so we cover all those stories and sometimes
during the summer we actually take guests into the mission
itself as part of the tour. Then we have Black
Star Canyon, which is in the San Anna Mountains up
near Silverado Canyon. Then the Callogg House, which is at
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Heritage Museum of Orange County.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm curious about that one too.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, we do that one, and Darcy does it.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Darcy's been on the show.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And then and then of course the Disney Manchin is
what we're gonna kind of talk about a lot more
later on in the show. And Dusty does an amazing
job with that tour. And we've done that for how
long now, like figures.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, we started before the unmentionable pandemic. Yeah, still doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, it really I can't recommend it enough, and Dusty,
you do a phenomenal job of having respects for all
aspects of its history and telling that fabulous stories. I
just I'm a sucker for good storytelling and it's a
real treat. Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat dot com
for all your Disney knowledge and more. He also does
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tours at the Disney Mansion we've been talking about in
the Hollywood Hills. Slash lospheelis Julie Tremaine, cookbook author, Extraordinary
journalist for SFGate dot com and also the author of
Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious cookbook. They are partnering for a
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one day event, even though they will continue to do
daytime tours and the candlelight tours at the Disney Mansion.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This one night is win. What's the date again?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
It's on Halloween nights, so that's right, which is on
a Friday night? This year's is the perfect time to
join us up at Walt Disney's storybook mansion in the
Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I mean, imagine having a cocktail party in the Disney Mansion,
so of course there'll be wine, champagne. Did you put
together a special cocktail.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
For the night I did put together a signature cocktail.
It may be inspired by a certain potion that turns
a certain evil queen into an old woman who feeds
snow white a poison apple. So I was inspired by
the evil queen when she's you know, she's in her
dungeon brewing all her potions, and then she she drinks
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one that turns her into that the crone that gives
snow at the poison apple, and then you know, puts
her to sleep. So I this it's a it's a
book cocktail in the book mocktail in the book called
the Peddler's Disguise.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But for a spirited evening, we'll be adding some spirits
to that. I'm all in Dussi's all We're going to
lean on it. Don't worry about it. Get your mother.
You take two. That's awesome. Now what about you know.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Again, don't want to give it any spoilers, but there's
a bar in the house, two of them.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, even though it was prohibition, Yeah, prohibition, but what
was you know? You see?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I love how when you ask people about Walt Disney
they always respond with he was a man of his times.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So we are all product of our Yeah right, But.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So to have a cigarette and a drink in your
hand in the afternoon was not abnormal in those days.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So what was his was his drink?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Well liked a Scotch missed and I frequently tell people
during the tours what his recipe was. And it's easy
to remember because you put into a beautiful leaded crystal
glass crushed ice, and on top of that, you poor
scotch ladies and gentlemen, a scotch miss it is just Scotch.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
On the rocks, but with crushed ice with a twist
of lemon. Forget a twist, but not enough to change
the alcohol content. Yeah, very much. Not to mention, technically,
that's not a cocktail. You have to have three ingredients.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You have to have the three three points of a cocktail,
your bitters and your booze. And yeah, so even with
the garnish, it's not a cocktail. That's that's just a
that's a shot. That's a big old hairy shot.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
You know what's great about this story is that Walt's
dad was a teetotaler. He was in the Temperance movement
to prevent people from drinking alcohol. He even ran a
jelly and soda company called Ozl o dash z e
Ll And if you want to keep people from drinking
hard liquor, you offer them soft drinks, and that's where
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the term soft drink comes from.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I did not know that's true.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And Ozel Soda went defunked many years ago, but I
was able to help bring it back to life. And
today you can buy an ozl soda and any Rocket
Fizz store across America, and one hundred percent of the
proceeds go back to save and restore Walt Disney's historic
birthplace in Chicago, Illinois, project that I put on the
map many years ago. So it's just something I'm proud
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of having done. And it ties into the fact that
Walt was a drinker and his dad wasn't and Walt
built two bars in his house, so couldn't have been
happy about that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That is crazy. I love that story so much. If
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Can't six forty live everywhere on the eye Heart Radio app. Hey, everybody,
it's the Forker Port all things food, beverage and beyond
with our Halloween panel today.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Ernie a.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Lonzo from Haunted OC to Dusty Sage, CEO of mice
chat dot com, also does some fabulous tours we're going
to talk about at the Disney Mansion in Los Phelis.
Julie Tremaine, journalist extraordinary and cookbook author. You write Forsfgate
as well, right, or is that something you did before?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I'm the theme park editor for a Sefgate out of
San Francisco, and everyone asked me if that means I
live in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I do not.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I live much much closer to Disneyland. I certainly couldn't
do my job. I couldn't get to Disneyland several times
a week.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I would imagine there's well, there are you know,
theme parks up north, but not like.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hare not not like not like not it's not like Universal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, it's like all these things that were We really
are blessed. I mean it is probably seven minutes from
our place on the eastern side of Los Angeles to Universal.
So yeah, so it's like, you know, we go. My
wife and boy were there yesterday, and we're very lucky
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we've got passes to these places and be able to
go here in southern California. And that's something all you,
all three of you have in common, is you guys
like to go to all of these things. Now is
Haunted season. Have you guys been up and out to
all of the different whether they're at the theme parks
or one offs, and.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not just here.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
We've been all over the country already because Halloween meial
now starts in August.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh boy, can you.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Believe it's still one hundred degrees in humid outside and
we're all putting on our Halloween colors and going to
haunted houses and haunted theme parks all over.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's so odd.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, well, I think that's probably the beginning of August
was when I start my YouTube consumption changes to people
making spooky props. I love, you know, the lighting techniques
and all of these things that change every single year.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Have you seen anything, whether.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's a theme or an effect, that just blew your
mind this year's.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Offerings? What do you think, Julie.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I think that the appetite for really intense, immersive horror
is bigger than it's ever been before. And at Universal
Orlando and at Universal Studios Hollywood, it's Halloween Horror nights
right now. It's funny that you were saying, oh, we're
starting Halloween early. We've both started Halloween the last week.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Of August and it has been Halloween every day since then.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
And I wouldn't have it any other way but that
at both Universal Halloween Horror nights they have this year.
Terrifier Y is hands down the scariest house I have
ever seen on either coast, not just scary wise, not
just jump scares and terror, but just the level of
intensity of disgusting cares, the visceral, the smells, sensations.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay, so you just hit a key that more and
more I'm noticing that things are becoming more odorific.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, and I did.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I never thought of it. I mean, you think about
that in certain you know that, whether it was the
original King Kong ride at Universal with the banana smell
when he's grown, things like that, but I'm hearing, no,
the smell of really disgusting.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Thing's horrifying right absolutely right into it.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
But you know, aside from the horror that everybody's into,
I'm also seeing a lot more comedy in the haunted
houses everywhere, and that's a nice release. So some of
the houses are really terrifying and others have a lot
of comedy in them. The Alvira House last night at
the Haunted hay Ride was pretty funny, and even Universal
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has now funny mases. They do ghostbusters and things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
This year Five Nights at Freddy's was a really wonderful counterballance.
So you have terrifier, which is the scariest you can
possibly get, but that's not for everyone. Some people want
that Five Nights at Freddy's. It's you know, puppets, it's
Chuck e cheese style puppets that maybe they're gonna kill you,
but they'll sing you a song first.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, serve you with pizza. I like that. That's how
I want to go out, Little pizza and some songs.
Good night, Irene.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
But I think my point is more just like the
level of immersion is the designers of these mazes are saying,
how can we make them an even more heightened experience
for everyone?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So no more black walls? Yeah? No, well everything but
the mazes are there, they're rooms there, rock and they're yeah,
and it's different because I loved it all.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I remember the black wall mazes everywhere. But really, now
unless you have something tactile about that where the darkness
is important to the you know, kind of the emptiness
you're feeling you're walking through movies.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's so true and really well done.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How is it nots this year has At eleven pm,
they turn off all the lights and you walk through
in the pitch black.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
With a flashy through in the pitch black.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'm not walking through in the pitch black, but they
give you a flashlight so you can illuminate the set yourself.
That's weird, and you're in a haunted zoo with you know,
killer animals, and you have a flashlight.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And a gun, your wits, okay, and machete. Just the flashlight,
just the flashlight a real heavy brick, No, just the
flash light. They need to make sure they quick kneel
through security. Yeah, can we get a bag check on
this day? Clean Cliang coming out? I'm like, there's nothing
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in there.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Stop checking, don't go any lower that the you talked
about the Terrifier. That is that the clown? Okay, so
who's you know, a clown? Already you're starting off bad.
But the gore, I know there's some you know, there's
also some other scatological type of things in certain it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Get that bad, does it.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
You are really dancing around what you want us to say.
Nobody wants to say it. But it's true that the
most disgusting room in any haunted house I've ever been
in is the bathroom scene in Terrifier.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Gross.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It smells real, real bad. It smells as bad as
you could possibly imagine smell.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, it looks as bad as I have five brothers
and only one sister. So it's worse than anything I
can amende worse, Wow, worse?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How do you think they get those odors?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thanks Jernie. Nice addition, Hey, how do you think they
make that stink man? I got a couple of bums
in the back room. I got something for you. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I don't know that that's my speed. But the
whole uh, you know, five Night at Freddy's. The concept
if you will have been if you don't know about
this listening, imagine you know, Chuck E Cheese going bonkers,
and the animatronics going bonkers and some you know, some
backstories that are creepy. But it does have a humor
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side to it because it's a bear.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
And one of the big gags throughout that maze is
they have this killer cupcake that keeps jumping out at
you from the walls. This cute little cupcake, but people
still scream because something's jumping out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, let me tell you. They made that cupcake.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
That's one of the Halloween treats they have this year
and it is really delicious. Oh, they have the killer cupcake.
It won't murder you, except probably with diabetes.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But if you gotta go though, the sugars is a
nice way I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's the silent killer I'll take that. Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So they are getting and even the effects whether it's
projection or digital you know, animatronics, all these different things.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
They're really multi layered now at Haunted actions all over.
Last night we were at Haunted hay Ride, which is
a small, you know, lower budgets experience in the Hollywood
Hills in Griffith Park Park and it's wonderful. But they
are using projection and digital screens in their mazes, and
so it shows you that the technology is spreading.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh I did.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I was the head of last year for my son's
schools Haunted House that they do every year, and I
had rear projection and all kinds of stuff all over
the place and animatronics in that and that was for school.
That type of thing to me, there are so many
unique ways to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We'll come back, we'll talk some stories.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We'll also squeeze some fun maybe spooky stories out of Dusty.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
You tell a great story, sir. I have been breathless
during one of your tours listening and and so we'll
get into some of those things and what's going on
in southern California for Halloween. We'll talk about food.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Some more with Julie and some more haunted fun with
the tours from Ernie as well.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So go know where.
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And all of that. So every dollar helps and we
appreciate that. It is our starting of the Halloween season
for us. We have Ernie Alonso with Haunted OC. Dusty Sage,
who's the CEO not only of mice chat dot com,
(11:31):
which I highly recommend for Disney fans, but also gives
tours at the Disney Mansion and others. Julie Tremaine, journalist,
cookbook author, and her book that we're going to be
talking about more today is Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
As we talk about this season, Let's see, we only
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have about two minutes in this segment. Dusty, is there
a booky story, haunted story you can tell us in
that time?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
When I started working at the mansion, I had no
idea that the house was haunted. I was the Disney
Mansion in the Hollywood Hills. I just knew the stories
and I was giving history tours. And one day the
owner called me to say, you know, are you going
to be sleeping.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In the house tonight?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And I said, yeah, if you don't mind, because I'm
going to be here for a few days. And he said,
if I were you, I wouldn't sleep upstairs in the
yellow room. So of course I went upstairs and I
slept in the yellow room, and all night long, I
kept feeling like I was going to have a heart attack.
And I had my two little dogs with me, two
little shelties, and I woke up in the middle of
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the night just feeling this horrible pressure in my chest.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
This is it.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I'm gonna call nine to one one. I'm definitely having
a heart attack. And the minute I opened my eyes,
the dogs started baying like they were wolves, and it
scared the Bejesus out of me, and I thought maybe
somebody was looking into the house. I grabbed a bat
and at the end of this whole scenario, police come.
They look at the house, nothing and I suddenly realize
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dogs see things people don't. And maybe it wasn't someone
in the house with something in the house, and maybe
the owner just telling me don't sleep in the yellow
room did it. But since that day, I've been afraid
to sleep upstairs in the house because.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, so I'm thinking, you go up, you go up
the stairs, they curl the shape that the round shape,
the spiral shape that goes up is is that the main,
it's the it's the Walt Disney's eldest daughter's bedroom. Oh okay,
so that's that's as you go up off to the
(13:43):
right somewhere yep, until it's the first of the two
girls rooms.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
And it's kind of a creepy room, has some creepy
old dolls and things in it.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Dolls. Why is it always got to be dolls? Dolls?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
But yeah, and to this day when I talk about it,
Teamore just laughs because you know, no one in.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Their own ever sleep in that room.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Because okay, but why did it can't find its way
into another room?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's right. The ghosts need to leave because I need
to get a good night.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But that's what I'm saying, Like why a room? Like,
aren't you afraid of any room?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
At that point, I O, Well, I am definitely afraid
of a lot of the rooms in the house at
night when I'm alone and when I'm giving tours or
there during the day. It's just charming and amazing, but
there's no denying the shadows and the noises and popping sound.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That house is haunted, even the Disney House. You can't
get away with it being unhaunted. You just can't gosh,
thanks Obama. That's a joke he made. He made Disney's
Houses haunted.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I just know it to somebody has Yeah, great, probably
Hannah Barbera putting some sort of curse on it. That
is so weird. Not to mention the thought of Shelty's
howling at the moon, of Shelty's terrifying Little Shelty. Yeah,
that's a never heard anybody call them terrifying before. It's
(15:01):
like the most terrifying Chihuahua you've ever seen. All right,
back with more on our guest panel today, Ernie Alonzo,
Dusty Sage, and Julie Tremaine, as we talk all things
Halloween moving into the season Disney Villains is the book
Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We'll be talking more when we return.
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Thanks for hanging out today.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We're starting out the Halloween season, the spooky season with
a great panel today Ernie Alonso from Haunted OC, Dusty Sage,
who's the CEO of mice chat dot com but also
gives tours both haunted and historical throughout Southland, including the
Disney Mansion Julie Tremaine, which is like, you have to
(16:00):
be a writer with the name Julie Tremaine.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I actually share a name with the big bad in Cinderella. Also,
oh wow, the evil stepmother is Lady Tremaine. Oh my gosh,
ask me where my villain villain origin story started.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was right there. You're all done and done.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I accept this author, journalist and cookbook author. The book
that we've been talking about is her book, Disney Villains
Devilishly Delicious Cookbook. Now, I got to imagine writing a cookbook.
One of the hardest things is editing for space, Like
did you have a bunch of recipes and have to
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edit them down?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
There were a lot more villains that I wanted to
include in the book I had. I had a recipe
in mind for a cake that was themed after Monstro
from you where it was just a blue cake and
you it was like a belly of the whale cake.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Were you cut it? Yes? Yes, yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it opens his mouth and just just like the
killer cupcake, No, were you cut it? And then all
the all this candy comes out because like came out
of the stomach of the whale.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh that's cool, but I didn't get to do it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So if anybody wants me to write a second Disney
Villain's book, that'll be in it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, I as we were talking, because I don't have
a copy of it. As we were talking, I went
on Amazon and bought it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I'm hoping it does well enough that you do
a second one.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Why not. It's it's very fun.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It's I never know what the next project is going
to be, and they've taken me in some very interesting directions,
usually haunted, creepy directions, which is fine by me.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm very happy about it. Who is your who's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's say above the fold famous Disney villain, and then
who's your favorite below the fold?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Well, I above the fold, I'm moleficent. I feel like
we are just soul sisters. We're just I feel like
we really get each other. The ability to turto.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
A purple dragon.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
But no, Lady Tremaine, I love her. She's she an
a stage and Risella. They don't show up in the
parks very often at Halloween times. Sometimes they do, which
makes me really happy. But every time I see them,
I'm like, we have to take a family photo.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah, I used to do, you know, the Evil
Queen and stuff like that. I take pictures and post
it and say, enjoy the park with my wife today.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But she likes the villains.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
To my wife is very She kind of like you know,
likes go to the beat of her own drum. And
she always seems to act like the bad person or
the villain is the good one, and she'll explain to
you why this is why they're misunderstood. So what's one
of your favorite recipes in the book that ties the
maleficent maleficent?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I made a I made a trifle which is one
of those layered kind of putting your cake in different
layers of custards. And it's called the Mistress of All
Evil Trifle. And the layers are black and purple and green,
so it's very dark chocolate cake and then statio pudding
and then purple with cream.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Wow. And did you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Create the recipes for the individual based on inspiration saying
what would what would this tie into or was it
a visual queue or a flavor queue that made you
go down that path?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, foods don't really figure into very many Disney movies.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
It's tied to villains specifically, Like you don't see villains
eating very often.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You see Hades eating his like cup of worms, which is.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
In the book actually, but there's otherwise, there's not a lot,
like Mother Gothal makes hazelnut soup for Rapunzel Entangled.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But other than that, it was really tough. So I
just watched.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I watched the movies, and certain phrases would stick out
to me, where like in Sword in the Stone, when
what's the name of the the woman you're not helping me,
you're a Disney editor.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I could see her at a mimic Madam Madam them.
She they have that.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
She and Merlin have that like wizard off and they
turn each other into things and she turns into like
a stick dragon. I made a chicken soup that would
heal a sick dragon, or I love it. At one
point she Marilyn, I think opens the windows, and she says,
I hate horrible wholesome sunshine. So I made a horrible
wholesome sunshine salad, which is a very citrus forward salad.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh I love it, so yeah. So the inspiration come
from some of the text or some of the context
of the.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, some of the things they say really spark spark
food ideas.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I love that and so and I love that you
have like the deep cut villains too, because you know,
there's nothing back when Disney would have the Villain's Night.
I always liked when there was a villain that I
had to go, wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I know that where that's from. And even some of
the newer ones that I was less familiar with or
(20:54):
my son would go, oh, I know who that is.
But they really, especially in the early days, really had
such a beautiful way of showing the villains the sharp angles,
the dark colors, yeah, and all those things that they're
hard not to fall in love with.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, and the freedom that they can sort of do
what they want. They have more agency over their own
actions than the heros, because the heroes are sort of
bound by I don't know the rules of right and
what I'm saying. The villains are doing the right thing.
I'm saying that they can follow their bliss and they
there's something appealing in that.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Some of the early ones were really beautiful and elegant,
you know, proper.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, that, you know what, the evil queen in the
mirror like, she's she's a beautiful lady, she's got a
real she's got riz.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think actually she would have been the one I
hit on in my day. You know, that would have been, Hey,
what's with all the anger you feel like you've got?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's like I'm the guy that looks and sees someone
smiling and say, hey, why don't you frown.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That happy about?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But it's it is funny that you say, well, they're
all bound by that morality. Like in Superman seventy seven
when the three Batties come down and they're looking like, oh,
he cares about them, like the humans, that's his problem,
Flick one of them.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Look what he does.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
He freaks out about these humans. And so yes, it
is a problem caring. I guess that is a problem
in deed. All right, stick around. It is our Halloween show.
As we talk with our panel today. Throughout the entirety
of this show, we have Earnie Alonso from Haunted OC
and that's just haunted OC dot com. Right, yep, haunted
oc dot com. If you want to go on a
(22:42):
tour here in Southern California and talk about great date night,
or if you're one of those more cerebral people, like
a great experience going to make you think about something
or experiencing something, a great way to do it. Dusty Sage,
CEO of mice chat dot com find all things Disney
and on there, including finding out that Dusty also does
(23:04):
tours at the Disney Mansion here in Hollywood slash Los Felis.
And there are some interesting twists and turns in that,
and it is fabulous I went last year. And then
of course Julie Tremaine, journalist and cookbook author. The book
is Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook. You can find that
on Amazon or your better bookstores.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Happy Saturday to you, Neil Savadra. Here of course, with
the Fork Report, we're starting off the Halloween season with
a panel today that we'll get back to in a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Ernie Alonzo from.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Haunted OC, Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Dot com Alting's Disney and beyond.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He also does some fantastic tours we'll be talking about
at the Disney Mansion. In the Hollywood Hills slash Los
Phelis area where he raised his family and Julie Tremaine
a journalist and cookbook author. Not only is she a
journalist for SFGate dot com, which is great. I've used
(24:11):
the stories many times on the show that's so funny,
but she also has a cookbook, Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook,
that you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Can find on Amazon as well. I got my copy today.
I went on there. It's very simple, that bezos.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He just.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Just going there and you click, and ain't it easy?
Wouldn't want to be married to him. But as far
as getting a book, it's pretty simple. So we'll get
to that in a minute. But I want to remind
you that the added excitement of the Disneyland Resorts seventieth celebration,
the parks are stunning right now. The food is popping.
They have so many different new recipes and fun things
(24:52):
for the holidays. The Happiest Halloween has brought spooky thrills
and chills to both Disney California Adventure Park and Disney
Land Park now through October thirty. First offerings subject to
restrictions and change without notice.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, Ernie you're up, sir, A couple.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We just got a couple of minutes here, give us
a rundown. You've got something starting this week at Bower's Museum.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, we do an annual tour for them. It's I
think it's our fifth year doing it now, and so
that kicks off this Thursday night at seven pm.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Is it haunted there?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It is haunted most museums, you know, they've got so
many artifacts and collections that carry attachments of spirit attachments
they say. And so this is cool because the reason
we got involved with them is they reached out to
us and asked if we would be interested in developing
(25:50):
a tour for them. And while we were doing that,
we had to interview a lot of the staff there
and I would say about percent had had experiences in
the museum where especially people like night guards and you know,
security people that are are there after hours that would
(26:11):
experience phenomenon. And so our tour we're I think we're
doing seven nights there Thursdays, and then we have a
October thirtieth tours, our last one before Halloween. And then
of course we have Old Town Orange, which is our
oldest location and that's in if you're familiar with Orange
(26:33):
County in the Little Plaza area, old Town Orange. And
then we have downtown Santa Ana. Let's see, we have
San Juan Capistrano, so we kind of go around the
mission there in the Los Rios district, which is the
one of the oldest neighborhoods in California.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Do you find the missions haunted?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, the Missions has a lot of ghost stories associated
with it, so we cover all those stories and sometimes
during the summer we actually take guests into the mission
itself as part of the tour. Then we have Black
Star Canyon, which is in the San Anna Mountains up
near Silverado Canyon. Then the Callogg House, which is at
(27:14):
Heritage Museum of Orange County.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm curious about that one too.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, we do that one, and Darcy does it.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Darcy's been on the show.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And then and then of course the Disney Manchin is
what we're gonna kind of talk about a lot more
later on in the show. And Dusty does an amazing
job with that tour. And we've done that for how
long now, like figures.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, we started before the unmentionable pandemic. Yeah, still doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, it really I can't recommend it enough, and Dusty,
you do a phenomenal job of having respects for all
aspects of its history and telling that fabulous stories. I
just I'm a sucker for good storytelling and it's a
real treat. Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat dot com
for all your Disney knowledge and more. He also does
(28:06):
tours at the Disney Mansion we've been talking about in
the Hollywood Hills. Slash lospheelis Julie Tremaine, cookbook author, Extraordinary
journalist for SFGate dot com and also the author of
Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious cookbook. They are partnering for a
(28:26):
one day event, even though they will continue to do
daytime tours and the candlelight tours at the Disney Mansion.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This one night is win. What's the date again?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
It's on Halloween nights, so that's right, which is on
a Friday night? This year's is the perfect time to
join us up at Walt Disney's storybook mansion in the
Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I mean, imagine having a cocktail party in the Disney Mansion,
so of course there'll be wine, champagne. Did you put
together a special cocktail.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
For the night I did put together a signature cocktail.
It may be inspired by a certain potion that turns
a certain evil queen into an old woman who feeds
snow white a poison apple. So I was inspired by
the evil queen when she's you know, she's in her
dungeon brewing all her potions, and then she she drinks
(29:19):
one that turns her into that the crone that gives
snow at the poison apple, and then you know, puts
her to sleep. So I this it's a it's a
book cocktail in the book mocktail in the book called
the Peddler's Disguise.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But for a spirited evening, we'll be adding some spirits
to that. I'm all in Dussi's all We're going to
lean on it. Don't worry about it. Get your mother.
You take two. That's awesome. Now what about you know.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Again, don't want to give it any spoilers, but there's
a bar in the house, two of them.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, even though it was prohibition, Yeah, prohibition, but what
was you know? You see?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I love how when you ask people about Walt Disney
they always respond with he was a man of his times.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So we are all product of our Yeah right, But.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So to have a cigarette and a drink in your
hand in the afternoon was not abnormal in those days.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So what was his was his drink?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Well liked a Scotch missed and I frequently tell people
during the tours what his recipe was. And it's easy
to remember because you put into a beautiful leaded crystal
glass crushed ice, and on top of that, you poor
scotch ladies and gentlemen, a scotch miss it is just Scotch.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
On the rocks, but with crushed ice with a twist
of lemon. Forget a twist, but not enough to change
the alcohol content. Yeah, very much. Not to mention, technically,
that's not a cocktail. You have to have three ingredients.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You have to have the three three points of a cocktail,
your bitters and your booze. And yeah, so even with
the garnish, it's not a cocktail. That's that's just a
that's a shot. That's a big old hairy shot.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
You know what's great about this story is that Walt's
dad was a teetotaler. He was in the Temperance movement
to prevent people from drinking alcohol. He even ran a
jelly and soda company called Ozl o dash z e
Ll And if you want to keep people from drinking
hard liquor, you offer them soft drinks, and that's where
(31:26):
the term soft drink comes from.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I did not know that's true.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And Ozel Soda went defunked many years ago, but I
was able to help bring it back to life. And
today you can buy an ozl soda and any Rocket
Fizz store across America, and one hundred percent of the
proceeds go back to save and restore Walt Disney's historic
birthplace in Chicago, Illinois, project that I put on the
map many years ago. So it's just something I'm proud
(31:52):
of having done. And it ties into the fact that
Walt was a drinker and his dad wasn't and Walt
built two bars in his house, so couldn't have been
happy about that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That is crazy. I love that story so much. If
you're quiet, you can actually hear your friendly neighborhood folk
reporter learning something.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Live on the air. That last brain cell is really struggling.
We're gonna blow right.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Will be back more as we talk all things spooky,
Halloween and edible on the Fork report This is KFI
heard Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You've been listening to the Fork Report.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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