October 26, 2024 • 30 mins
Darcy Staniforth of Haunted Tours is giving us the whole scoop on the tours happening this spooky season. It's all on KFIAM-640!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Neil Sevadra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Today is more on the beyond than ever before. As
I wanted to do a Halloween show this year that
was a little different, and I'm introducing you to interesting people,
at least I think they're interesting. But then again, the
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show's got my name on it, and that implies I
think I'm interesting. I guess, my god, the world is
coming down on me. What's happening. But I'm happy to
introduce these folks to you. If you didn't get a
chance to listen to. The whole thing started with legendary
Disney imagineer Bob Gerr. What a delight and a philosophical guy.
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I knew that he had a spark. You can see
it when you just see a picture of him, and
I knew I was gonna get a zap from that
spark of curiosity in life that he has. But at
ninety three years old, he just turned ninety three yesterday,
he has a philosophy and a magic about him that
goes long beyond existed before, Disney, exists after, and will
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continue to exist just because of who he is. Right now,
we're going to go for that from that zest for
life to zest for the afterlife. Let's get started. Those
of you that listen to the last segment might enjoy
that bit. I love this, Darcy Stana fourth. Now you're
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the half sister of Dean Sharp, who's heard here. Yes,
the house Whisperer, does he really? Because I've heard rumors
that like people will wake up in the middle of
night if they're staying in his place and he's actually
out in the yard in his undergarments, high house, it's me, Dean,
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how are you? House? Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is? That?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Is that fake news?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Or here's the thing. My brother has found his own magic. Yeah,
and however he continue to refeed that meonjic magic so
that he can bring it to listeners here on the air.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't think anything. I don't think Tina exists, she exists.
I think all of it is made up in his head.
I think he is living some life in his head
and he has some shack in the hills somewhere that
he refers to as his cottage. Cottage.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He just keeps breaking into other people's yards and is like,
look what we've done.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Now He cuts pictures out of Architectural Digest and posts
them and goes, I built houses. This is what I do,
and it's none of it's true. So you think that
Dean is the joker? Yeah, essentially I think he's Where
do you think I got all these wonderful toys? All right?
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So Drothy a Darcy rather is and I love this.
I came across a renaissance woman of the weird. So
we go from Zest for Life to zes to the
afterlife here and if you don't know, and that's part
of my job to introduce you to you got this
academia bug behind you. Multifaceted writer, performer, paranormal investigator. You
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have a fascination with the unexplained. Curiosity is a theme
throughout the show today. You've got your masters in American Studies.
You research all kinds of topics, ideals, institutions, death, dying,
grief in American culture. And one of the things you
do is you do you'll host guided tours with Haunted
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Orange County. You can find them at hauntedoc dot com.
Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I have to say to follow Bobber and then Derek
and then me, you're welcome everyone.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I hate listen. I curated this show purposely and with
intent of people that I find interesting. It's awesome that
I think fall into the curious and explore tory nature
of humankind. And I don't believe in ghosts in the
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spiritual sense of someone that you know, it hasn't passed over.
I do believe in a spiritual realm. I do believe
that there's things we don't understand. I believe in all
that stuff, and I love all of it. I love it.
It's part of the curiosity of you know, not knowing.
I think we'd be you'd have to have intense hubrisk
to say that, you know, you know more than one
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percent of the total knowledge of the some of the universe.
So there's a lot we don't know. Oh yeah, and
that intrigues me. That that that that has been your focus.
So does death scare you or talking about death or
the concept of death.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It really doesn't, because you know, one of the things
that you were talking about with Derek, and this idea
of us putting tombstones in our art, also because we
don't have seasons. But the idea Wyatt, I think seems
foreign to us or only happens once a year, is
because we live in a death avoidant and grief of
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wind and culture and death is on the outskirts of everything,
right Like coming here to the studio, we have got
one of the largest memorial parks in southern California just
up the street, but it's hidden away in the hills.
Nobody's really living next door to that. It's a city
of the dead, right saying with Rose Hills. Whereas death
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used to be very much part of everybody's everyday lives
and a it's a half hacky joke, but you know,
the data shows that one hundred percent of us are
going to die. No, what one hundred one hundred percent
of us?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, that's the data they have so far, so far,
so far, okay, okay, in it changes, there's a chance.
And so for me, death does not scare me. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And I think that the more there's something called mortality salience,
and that is the idea of us as human animals
realizing oh I'm gonna oh no. But we also have
data that shows us that the more we actually consider
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our own death, the better we do it living because
we're aware that we're not gonna be here for do
it now right live life where you were talking about
that with Bob as well, like we have to keep living.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, well alive, live.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
While alive, live and so death does not scare me.
I'm not ready to go there yet, Like I have
a lot of things I want to do.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I was gonna put this, so we're gonna for ratings. Cayla,
can you come in and fold the tarp up please?
I think that. Get that little note on that thought
and we'll come back and talk more. With a Darcy
Stana fourth. She is definitely a renaissance. When we were
talking about match a slight of hand earlier, so we're
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geeks in that sense as well. She does tours right
now and beyond with Haunted Orange County. Hauntedoc dot com
is where you can find out more stick around as
we talk about life, death and the spookiness of Halloween
and why people tend to allow themselves to get in
touch with that during this time of the year.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Neil Savadra with you on the forok Report. A very
special and different show today as I personally curated people
that I would love for you to know. And if
you didn't get a chance to hear the show, please
go back and listen to it on the iHeartRadio app
on the podcast on demand as I've had a really
good time and I hope you have as well. Right
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now I'm talking with Darcy Staniforth. She is incredibly well
rounded with all of her studies and interests and somebody
that I would seek out at a party to sit
down and have cocktail and chat with. You know, it's
like you're You're the tyde person that I want to
I want to know more about and hear your insights
and thoughts about people and things. But uh, I have
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you here for the Halloween Show because of the tours
that you host, in particular with Haunted Orange County. You
can find them at HAUNTEDOC dot com and it's year
round yep. But obviously right now people go, hey, I
want to know, we have a lot of really interesting
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places throughout the Southland to tour. What are some of
your favorite places to check out and to take people
through that they may not know are considered haunted.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, I think you know, obviously I love taking people
through the Kellogg House where I do that tour for
Haunted Orange County. But also like with my Downtown Santa ANATRM,
I get a chance to introduce many people to the
doctor Willela how waffle House, a medical museum, which is
a beautiful twelve room Victorian home, need name.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's a lot, but we we shorten it to waffle house.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But then people are expecting grits and I feel that
they're disappointed.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
If they get there, go Is it open twenty four hours? No,
who's gonna fight?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, but the the waffle House was the home of
the first female physician in all of Santa Ana, and.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's why it's haunted. Wow, that is so sexist. That
is horrible to say.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We just find out that I just go her famous
saying whoops oops. But she she actually was an incredibly
compassionate woman who you know, we were talking h off
air about the Spanish flu. During the Spanish flu pandemic,
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she set up army tents in her backyard for all
of the children in the area to make sure they
could be cared for.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Like and she was one of.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Those folks that if people could not pay, she never
turned them away.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And so it's it was.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
A space with as both a home but also a
liminal space, right that betwixt and between where so many
people came in and out of. And I think a
lot of times people don't realize that those liminal spaces
tend to be very haunted. Hotels, airplanes can be really haunted,
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which is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I'm like, where's my haunted airplane? Yeah? And so uh
are people? I guess people do die on airplanes that
don't crash. I mean, people have heart attacks. Are people?
But what would cause them to be a place for haunting?
I mean, I don't know the rules I'm going off there?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He mean, well, I mean there's there's different theories about
how things get haunted.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, tell so sometimes.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It has to do with that kind of you know,
traditional thought pattern, right of like somebody passed away or
they passed away suddenly, and they're they don't crossover for
various reasons, right, they don't want to, they don't know
to all these different things. I don't think it's my
responsibility as a tour guide or an investigator to do that, Like,
I don't I don't know what they were into. Uh
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So I don't want to assume right and say you
have to go towards the light and they're like, what light?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
There's no light, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And that's not to say they're like doomed or anything,
but just I don't want to assume somebody's belief system
or where they want to go, and maybe they're in
their heaven.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
We would not be funny to tell everybody one thing
like that and then they're expecting that. They're like, you
have to go to the diamond, yeah, and then they
get there there there's no dim They're like, what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I thought I thought, we're so yeah, we don't know,
and anybody who says they know run the other way.
But there's also the idea that a place cannot is
not haunted, but because of the stories that are told
over and over again in it, it ends up haunting
the place.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, stop because I want to find out more about
that when we come back. You just spoke a haunt
into existence. Let's haunt this place. Let's let's do it
to it. To freak out Shannon Farren, It's gonna come
in here and things are going to be moving, she
will run out, all right, Let's get the latest News.
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You know Jackie Ray, that would be hilarious. Did she say,
don't haunt it while I'm here? Please do it after? Wait?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Wait, you're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevedra
on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Hey, everybody, it's the Fork Report all Things Food, beverage
and beyond. Today. It's more beyond than ever, as this
is our Halloween show and we're talking to interesting people,
people that I curated that I think are interesting. I
want you to know. Also, the music today is curated
by our buddy Clay Rowe from deadair dot Co. That
it's dead air dot co dot com, dead air dot Co.
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And it's I love it. It's year round Halloween music,
but not just the typical stuff. There's some weird mixes
and covers and all kinds of crazy stuff that I
just love. And it really is one of those things
that I listened to a lot around the house during
this time of year and beyond. So check it out
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and it is. It stays afloat by donations, and it
doesn't take much, you know, to to keep it afloat,
but it's a labor of love for him. I always
donate every year to it. I know our fearless leader
Robin Berdolucci does as well. We're big fans of it.
But check it out, enjoy it, and it is free.
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You don't have to pay anything for it. But if
you find in your heart and you say, hey, this
is really fun. Clay makes me laugh with his promos
and the things he does throughout the imaging here for
KFI being the imaging director, then throw him some full
money and I don't know at what level, but he
sends out these smashed coins, you know, press coins like
you get in an amusement park or something with the
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logo on it. That's very cool. And he refurbished an
old machine and he hired me to do the design
work on the outside. I say hired, but I would
never charge the guy. But it was really fun because
we made it look kind of old and things like that.
So you'll probably see pictures on the website or somewhere. Anyways,
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check that out dead air dot Co. Deadair dot Co
and enjoy that. But all the weird music and fun
stuff you're hearing on the programs from Clayrow and deadair
dot Co. Today, Drothy Staniforth is my guest right now
a renaissance woman of the weird talking about hauntings. Now
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you give tours. I'm open minded to anything out there
because I like explore things, and I'd be stupid to
think that I you know, am am done learning in life.
But I have never heard you said that if a
place is not hot, things get haunted for many reasons.
If a place is not haunted, just talking about stories
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enough in them makes them haunted. Now do you mean
psychologically people start feeling that energy or vibe or ghosts.
Go hey, they're really talking it up over there. Let's
go over there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So there is the concept known as a tulpa, which
is this idea of a thought form coming to life
that if enough people think about and put energy into
something tacos tacos, right, I know, tacos more pie?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That pie? Oh my gosh, I am going through this pie.
Derek Young, our last guest, Van Oaks props. His wife
is a acre and an excellent one at that brought
this pie that is just fantastic. She calls it the
Grandpa Paye. I believe, but man, oh man, that is
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a great pie. So we're all enjoying.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah. Yes, So the idea that like of enough people
put energy and thought into it, it comes to life,
it comes into existence.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's been popular throughout the centuries in different forms. In
the sixties and seventies it was very popular something called
psycho pictography, when you think about things to make them come.
The Secret kind of talks about that and that, but
kind of the you know, think it and bring it
into existence. So it's been throughout the centuries in one
form or another that we have those.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Kinds of Yeah, the ideas of manifestation, you know, different
folks in like the New Thought Arena. But also it
can go into hauntings. Right, But I've so story from
the Kellogg before. We tell a challenging story about Helen
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Kellogg on the tour that is, uh, probably one of
the worst stories you could have told about.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yourself after you died. Oh no, had I.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
When I first started, we weren't kind of giving a
more holistic picture of her, and so I felt it
really really important to make sure that we changed the narrative,
and that to.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Me has changed.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's changed the energy of the house, like it's wild,
how active in very different ways the house was. And
then as I brought these other stories in that showed
like that shows uh, Helen's heart for babies, whole different vibe.
So it it And again I'm I'm just trying things, right,
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I don't know and so uh but yeah, it's these
different kinds of And I love when when people hear
that I do paranormal investigation because I'm also the paranormal
coordinator for the Heritage Museum of Orange County, which is
an incredible job. To have business cards for it. Let
me tell you, They're like, do you want business cards?
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I'm like, yes, absolutely, But that means when people want
to come investigate on the museum grounds, I vet them
and make sure they're upholding the values in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The mission of the museum, right. And so.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know, when when you're you're talking about these things,
so many times people are like, well, I don't believe.
I'm like, I don't, I don't. I don't need you
to believe. I just want you to want to come.
And I joke with people on the tours all the time.
I say, look, if I don't get you with the
ghost stories, I'll get you with the history.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
If I don't get you with the history, I'll gate
with the architecture. Because I'm a delight because I'm a
multifaceted delight.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I am a renaissance woman of the weird, which I'm
going to put on everything.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Now, that was the best statement. I laughed, and I said,
that is going in the introduction renaissance woman of the weird.
Down there is a business card and possibly a vanity plate.
Oh my gosh, but I uh, it's okay not to
believe things, all right, I get that all the time.
It's like, you're not there to do a persuasive.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, this is not This is not a persuasive speech
on gross No, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
It's these are some things and I love that. Have
you ever been up in Big Bear. There's a place
called the Captain's Anchorage, so old tell me about the captains?
Apparently that's a place. It's a it's a great steakhouse,
by the way. And is it an old man's steakhouse? Yeah,
well old steakhouses are old man's steakhouses technically.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know what I'm talking about, though, Like, am I
going to get an iceberg salad before that steak?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah? Yeah, it's yes, it's what you It's exactly what
you expect and want in this place. And there are
people who have been working there for a long time
that will take you upstairs and to show you where
they've had issues and things that they believe. There's this
one person who used to be I think the bookkeeper
for the place, okay, and maybe hanged themselves or something. Yeah,
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that they have all these stories, but I think you should.
It's just a really neat place. So when we went
up there, I took my son through there and they
gave us a little tour of stuff like that, because
I thought it was fascinating and I enjoy a good story.
I enjoy the unknown. And I think that as you
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are a curator of that information and somebody who passes
it on to those and they can make of it
what they will. But sometimes just the history of a building,
what is it with? What is it with children?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Children?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Creep us the hell out in ghost form. It's so funny,
dolls and Childrey. I'm laughing at Jackie Ray just shook
her head from the top of the building to the
bottom of the building. Okay, hold that thought, because we're
going to take a break. And if Tiffany's listening, Tiffany,
you come in and you can sit and ask some questions.
If you want to, because Tiffany's coming up, I believe
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after five o'clock. We're talking right now with Darcy stand
Forth stand a fourth rather a renaissance woman of the weird,
talking about her guided tours both with Haunted Orange County
at hauntedoc dot com and beyond. We'll talk more about
that and why dolls and kids are creepy when they're dead.
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I mean, you could know why that is, because we
all feel for them differently. But it's like, and everybody's
from the seventeen hundred, like nobody's gone, dude, that's rad,
Like there's no ghost going.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Bro I mean eventually we are gonna get ghosts named Skyler.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean yeah, that's scarily scary, right, Brosts, Yeah, Brosts, Yeah,
I mean sooner or later, it's gonna be different. Right.
It's like, thou hast come in my house. It's gonna dude,
where's my car? Dude? Dude, dude.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then it just starts talking to you Alexa, and
they're like, stop talking to the Alexa, stop ordering things
on Amazon, ghosts, stop.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It, ghost light lights on?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Bro Right, We're not even gonna need Alexa. We can
just talk to our Ghosts one day.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Forty very special. Hello and thank you for joining us
today as we do our Halloween show today. The holiday
is coming up next week. I think it's Wednesday or
Thursday or something Thursday Thursday. So did the show today
and have really enjoyed my guests. We went through chatting
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with Bob Gerr just I mean ninety three years old.
It's fascinating that he was such a huge part of
Disneyland and what we experienced there and all of his
stories and beyond that, I mean he left that in
eighty one, yeah, and has done more things outside of
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even the hundred plus things that he's done there. And
then we talked to Derek Young, is one of my
favorite YouTubers who does prop making and does hauntings, you know,
sets up his graveyard in the like the display in
his front yard except this year, which is probably why
we were able to get him. And now talking with
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Darcy about you know, hosting these walkthroughs and histories of
haunted places and the like there. But we were talking
a little bit about the spookiness of like Children's dolls,
toys or you know. My son, I mean, no one
taught him this, No one taught him this. But my
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wife loves creepy dolls, like old like old school dolls
that weren't necessarily meant to be creepy. Although we have
some of those as well, but from a young age,
he's like, ugh, yeah, that one creeps me out. I mean,
I think when it comes to dolls.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So we have in one of the rooms in the Kellogg,
we have a lot of dolls, and I always have
to give people a doll warning, and I make the joke.
I say, look, you all paid to come on a
haunted historical tour, but if I don't give this warning,
someone's going to be mad.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
This next room there's a lot of dolls and people
get It's like it's like I've had big, burly grown
men walk out.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Nope, not for me, because I mean they don't walk
off the tour, but they're just like not for dolls.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, And I think I'm gonna go have a smoke. Yeah,
I'll be back in the next room.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I think it has a lot to do with the
concept of the uncanny Valley, right, things that look human
but are not clowns. We don't enjoy contemporary legends like
slender Man. Yeah, you know, things with exaggerated features and
things like that. It may also not help even though
as a death scholar, I think she's beautiful, but we
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also have.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
A Victorian mourning doll in the house. Yeah. See that's
the type of thing that I would love and my
wife would love. But there. You know what, can I
tell you a fear that I have on the Uncanny Valley? Yes?
Unnatural movements? Oh so like you're crawling on the ceiling
or the weird oh yeah, yeah, the like the Exorcist
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crab walk, Yeah that is. Or you know what freaked
me out is in the movie Mars attacks. Yes, the
alien that's dressed as a woman. He turns around and
she leans forward and walks. Asked, Yep, creeps me the
hell out every time, and she's beautiful. Still creeps me
the hell out. Well, there's certain movements. It's like, as
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somebody who used to spar and scrap a little bit,
reading a person in certain movements is what makes you
feel safe? What's our biology or mean too? Because it's
like I can't look at an animal's eye and know
what it's going to do. I may not be able
to do that to a human being, but I have
a better chance sure, so that when they walk or
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move like I don't want to fight a shark that's
in their territory right And if somebody can walk on ceilings,
I'm at a loss or oh, it gives me the
chills already. I want to shake that mojo off. So
so you think that falls into the dull category.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Two, I think anything with that Uncanny Valley, we just
are like, that's I know what that is, but I
don't know what that is, and so we can't make
full sense of it. And that really bothers us a lot,
which I totally get.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And I think when it comes to kids, I mean,
there we see them is innocent, innocent. And I also
think the weeping woman is it often reaccur something that
we don't want to hear or we.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I also think with kids, because I was talking
to someone about this on at the how waffle House
the other night, like about, oh, I don't want I
don't want to talk about the kids, and I was like,
but they're all of the child spirits that I've ever
interacted with are like very happy very sweet, like not creepy.
But I also think it might tie in toward our
death avoidance because it reminds us that we're not necessarily
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going to get to live till we're old.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Sure, there's no promise, there's no problem real quickly because
we're up against the clock. Can a spirit does a spirit?
At what point do they show themselves? And I mean
what point they're living? So can a child show themselves
as an adult? Or can an adult show themselves as a child?
Or are they sealed in the age they were when
they passed? Or why would we see them one way
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or the other? You know, I don't. I don't have
a really good answer for that, but I really don't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't because we have a child spirit in the
Kellogg that it seems that this during investigations, we've gotten
kind of the same evidence over and over, but the
age has changed. And I'm still processing that, Like, but
you told us you were three and three quarters at
this time, but now you're telling us seven, but now
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you're four, Like it's very different.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then and then we don't have time to get
into trickster spirits, spirits and entities that claim that their
children or innocent things and then.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
One here we call it Kyla. Yeah, real trickster. Where
can people find you on social media and the like?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
People can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Darcy
Staniforth d A R C Y S T A N
I f O r t H and come follow me.
Let me know you found me on the Fork Report
and y all, I've had such a great time.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I love talking with you. I want to Yeah, this
is the longest we've ever had, you know, pull to
have this kind of conversation, But we will have more.
We'll have to have you guys over to the house
and hang out. Absolutely, you are delight and I want
you to meet my wife. She would love you. Fantastic.
You guys would be pals like this. Excellent. She's a weirdo.
I'm different. I love weirdos. Weirdo is not a bad word.
(29:22):
She is the best kind of weirdo because she has
her own weird but she can put up with other
people's weird like mine. And that's what you look for
in life. All right, Thanks so much, Darcy, Thanks to
all of you for hanging out. Stick around for Tiffany,
who's weird in her own right. Trust me and she'll
get you. You'll be in good hands. Happy Halloween to you,
Be safe and we'll talk again soon. It is the
(29:44):
Forkport Emil Savager. This is KFI and kost HD two
Los Angeles. You've been listening to the Fork Report. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
two to five pm on Saturday and anytime onto man
on the iHeartRadio app
Hey, it's Neil Sevadra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Today is more on the beyond than ever before. As
I wanted to do a Halloween show this year that
was a little different, and I'm introducing you to interesting people,
at least I think they're interesting. But then again, the
(00:21):
show's got my name on it, and that implies I
think I'm interesting. I guess, my god, the world is
coming down on me. What's happening. But I'm happy to
introduce these folks to you. If you didn't get a
chance to listen to. The whole thing started with legendary
Disney imagineer Bob Gerr. What a delight and a philosophical guy.
(00:43):
I knew that he had a spark. You can see
it when you just see a picture of him, and
I knew I was gonna get a zap from that
spark of curiosity in life that he has. But at
ninety three years old, he just turned ninety three yesterday,
he has a philosophy and a magic about him that
goes long beyond existed before, Disney, exists after, and will
(01:03):
continue to exist just because of who he is. Right now,
we're going to go for that from that zest for
life to zest for the afterlife. Let's get started. Those
of you that listen to the last segment might enjoy
that bit. I love this, Darcy Stana fourth. Now you're
(01:26):
the half sister of Dean Sharp, who's heard here. Yes,
the house Whisperer, does he really? Because I've heard rumors
that like people will wake up in the middle of
night if they're staying in his place and he's actually
out in the yard in his undergarments, high house, it's me, Dean,
(01:49):
how are you? House? Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is? That?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Is that fake news?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Or here's the thing. My brother has found his own magic. Yeah,
and however he continue to refeed that meonjic magic so
that he can bring it to listeners here on the air.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't think anything. I don't think Tina exists, she exists.
I think all of it is made up in his head.
I think he is living some life in his head
and he has some shack in the hills somewhere that
he refers to as his cottage. Cottage.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He just keeps breaking into other people's yards and is like,
look what we've done.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Now He cuts pictures out of Architectural Digest and posts
them and goes, I built houses. This is what I do,
and it's none of it's true. So you think that
Dean is the joker? Yeah, essentially I think he's Where
do you think I got all these wonderful toys? All right?
(02:47):
So Drothy a Darcy rather is and I love this.
I came across a renaissance woman of the weird. So
we go from Zest for Life to zes to the
afterlife here and if you don't know, and that's part
of my job to introduce you to you got this
academia bug behind you. Multifaceted writer, performer, paranormal investigator. You
(03:13):
have a fascination with the unexplained. Curiosity is a theme
throughout the show today. You've got your masters in American Studies.
You research all kinds of topics, ideals, institutions, death, dying,
grief in American culture. And one of the things you
do is you do you'll host guided tours with Haunted
(03:35):
Orange County. You can find them at hauntedoc dot com.
Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I have to say to follow Bobber and then Derek
and then me, you're welcome everyone.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I hate listen. I curated this show purposely and with
intent of people that I find interesting. It's awesome that
I think fall into the curious and explore tory nature
of humankind. And I don't believe in ghosts in the
(04:08):
spiritual sense of someone that you know, it hasn't passed over.
I do believe in a spiritual realm. I do believe
that there's things we don't understand. I believe in all
that stuff, and I love all of it. I love it.
It's part of the curiosity of you know, not knowing.
I think we'd be you'd have to have intense hubrisk
to say that, you know, you know more than one
(04:31):
percent of the total knowledge of the some of the universe.
So there's a lot we don't know. Oh yeah, and
that intrigues me. That that that that has been your focus.
So does death scare you or talking about death or
the concept of death.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It really doesn't, because you know, one of the things
that you were talking about with Derek, and this idea
of us putting tombstones in our art, also because we
don't have seasons. But the idea Wyatt, I think seems
foreign to us or only happens once a year, is
because we live in a death avoidant and grief of
(05:07):
wind and culture and death is on the outskirts of everything,
right Like coming here to the studio, we have got
one of the largest memorial parks in southern California just
up the street, but it's hidden away in the hills.
Nobody's really living next door to that. It's a city
of the dead, right saying with Rose Hills. Whereas death
(05:29):
used to be very much part of everybody's everyday lives
and a it's a half hacky joke, but you know,
the data shows that one hundred percent of us are
going to die. No, what one hundred one hundred percent
of us?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, that's the data they have so far, so far,
so far, okay, okay, in it changes, there's a chance.
And so for me, death does not scare me. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And I think that the more there's something called mortality salience,
and that is the idea of us as human animals
realizing oh I'm gonna oh no. But we also have
data that shows us that the more we actually consider
(06:19):
our own death, the better we do it living because
we're aware that we're not gonna be here for do
it now right live life where you were talking about
that with Bob as well, like we have to keep living.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, well alive, live.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
While alive, live and so death does not scare me.
I'm not ready to go there yet, Like I have
a lot of things I want to do.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I was gonna put this, so we're gonna for ratings. Cayla,
can you come in and fold the tarp up please?
I think that. Get that little note on that thought
and we'll come back and talk more. With a Darcy
Stana fourth. She is definitely a renaissance. When we were
talking about match a slight of hand earlier, so we're
(07:02):
geeks in that sense as well. She does tours right
now and beyond with Haunted Orange County. Hauntedoc dot com
is where you can find out more stick around as
we talk about life, death and the spookiness of Halloween
and why people tend to allow themselves to get in
touch with that during this time of the year.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Neil Savadra with you on the forok Report. A very
special and different show today as I personally curated people
that I would love for you to know. And if
you didn't get a chance to hear the show, please
go back and listen to it on the iHeartRadio app
on the podcast on demand as I've had a really
good time and I hope you have as well. Right
(07:47):
now I'm talking with Darcy Staniforth. She is incredibly well
rounded with all of her studies and interests and somebody
that I would seek out at a party to sit
down and have cocktail and chat with. You know, it's
like you're You're the tyde person that I want to
I want to know more about and hear your insights
and thoughts about people and things. But uh, I have
(08:12):
you here for the Halloween Show because of the tours
that you host, in particular with Haunted Orange County. You
can find them at HAUNTEDOC dot com and it's year
round yep. But obviously right now people go, hey, I
want to know, we have a lot of really interesting
(08:32):
places throughout the Southland to tour. What are some of
your favorite places to check out and to take people
through that they may not know are considered haunted.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, I think you know, obviously I love taking people
through the Kellogg House where I do that tour for
Haunted Orange County. But also like with my Downtown Santa ANATRM,
I get a chance to introduce many people to the
doctor Willela how waffle House, a medical museum, which is
a beautiful twelve room Victorian home, need name.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's a lot, but we we shorten it to waffle house.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But then people are expecting grits and I feel that
they're disappointed.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
If they get there, go Is it open twenty four hours? No,
who's gonna fight?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, but the the waffle House was the home of
the first female physician in all of Santa Ana, and.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's why it's haunted. Wow, that is so sexist. That
is horrible to say.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We just find out that I just go her famous
saying whoops oops. But she she actually was an incredibly
compassionate woman who you know, we were talking h off
air about the Spanish flu. During the Spanish flu pandemic,
(10:00):
she set up army tents in her backyard for all
of the children in the area to make sure they
could be cared for.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Like and she was one of.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Those folks that if people could not pay, she never
turned them away.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And so it's it was.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
A space with as both a home but also a
liminal space, right that betwixt and between where so many
people came in and out of. And I think a
lot of times people don't realize that those liminal spaces
tend to be very haunted. Hotels, airplanes can be really haunted,
(10:37):
which is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I'm like, where's my haunted airplane? Yeah? And so uh
are people? I guess people do die on airplanes that
don't crash. I mean, people have heart attacks. Are people?
But what would cause them to be a place for haunting?
I mean, I don't know the rules I'm going off there?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He mean, well, I mean there's there's different theories about
how things get haunted.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, tell so sometimes.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It has to do with that kind of you know,
traditional thought pattern, right of like somebody passed away or
they passed away suddenly, and they're they don't crossover for
various reasons, right, they don't want to, they don't know
to all these different things. I don't think it's my
responsibility as a tour guide or an investigator to do that, Like,
I don't I don't know what they were into. Uh
(11:23):
So I don't want to assume right and say you
have to go towards the light and they're like, what light?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
There's no light, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And that's not to say they're like doomed or anything,
but just I don't want to assume somebody's belief system
or where they want to go, and maybe they're in
their heaven.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
We would not be funny to tell everybody one thing
like that and then they're expecting that. They're like, you
have to go to the diamond, yeah, and then they
get there there there's no dim They're like, what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I thought I thought, we're so yeah, we don't know,
and anybody who says they know run the other way.
But there's also the idea that a place cannot is
not haunted, but because of the stories that are told
over and over again in it, it ends up haunting
the place.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, stop because I want to find out more about
that when we come back. You just spoke a haunt
into existence. Let's haunt this place. Let's let's do it
to it. To freak out Shannon Farren, It's gonna come
in here and things are going to be moving, she
will run out, all right, Let's get the latest News.
(12:25):
You know Jackie Ray, that would be hilarious. Did she say,
don't haunt it while I'm here? Please do it after? Wait?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Wait, you're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevedra
on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Hey, everybody, it's the Fork Report all Things Food, beverage
and beyond. Today. It's more beyond than ever, as this
is our Halloween show and we're talking to interesting people,
people that I curated that I think are interesting. I
want you to know. Also, the music today is curated
by our buddy Clay Rowe from deadair dot Co. That
it's dead air dot co dot com, dead air dot Co.
(13:04):
And it's I love it. It's year round Halloween music,
but not just the typical stuff. There's some weird mixes
and covers and all kinds of crazy stuff that I
just love. And it really is one of those things
that I listened to a lot around the house during
this time of year and beyond. So check it out
(13:25):
and it is. It stays afloat by donations, and it
doesn't take much, you know, to to keep it afloat,
but it's a labor of love for him. I always
donate every year to it. I know our fearless leader
Robin Berdolucci does as well. We're big fans of it.
But check it out, enjoy it, and it is free.
(13:47):
You don't have to pay anything for it. But if
you find in your heart and you say, hey, this
is really fun. Clay makes me laugh with his promos
and the things he does throughout the imaging here for
KFI being the imaging director, then throw him some full
money and I don't know at what level, but he
sends out these smashed coins, you know, press coins like
you get in an amusement park or something with the
(14:09):
logo on it. That's very cool. And he refurbished an
old machine and he hired me to do the design
work on the outside. I say hired, but I would
never charge the guy. But it was really fun because
we made it look kind of old and things like that.
So you'll probably see pictures on the website or somewhere. Anyways,
(14:33):
check that out dead air dot Co. Deadair dot Co
and enjoy that. But all the weird music and fun
stuff you're hearing on the programs from Clayrow and deadair
dot Co. Today, Drothy Staniforth is my guest right now
a renaissance woman of the weird talking about hauntings. Now
(14:54):
you give tours. I'm open minded to anything out there
because I like explore things, and I'd be stupid to
think that I you know, am am done learning in life.
But I have never heard you said that if a
place is not hot, things get haunted for many reasons.
If a place is not haunted, just talking about stories
(15:17):
enough in them makes them haunted. Now do you mean
psychologically people start feeling that energy or vibe or ghosts.
Go hey, they're really talking it up over there. Let's
go over there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So there is the concept known as a tulpa, which
is this idea of a thought form coming to life
that if enough people think about and put energy into
something tacos tacos, right, I know, tacos more pie?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That pie? Oh my gosh, I am going through this pie.
Derek Young, our last guest, Van Oaks props. His wife
is a acre and an excellent one at that brought
this pie that is just fantastic. She calls it the
Grandpa Paye. I believe, but man, oh man, that is
(16:09):
a great pie. So we're all enjoying.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah. Yes, So the idea that like of enough people
put energy and thought into it, it comes to life,
it comes into existence.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's been popular throughout the centuries in different forms. In
the sixties and seventies it was very popular something called
psycho pictography, when you think about things to make them come.
The Secret kind of talks about that and that, but
kind of the you know, think it and bring it
into existence. So it's been throughout the centuries in one
form or another that we have those.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Kinds of Yeah, the ideas of manifestation, you know, different
folks in like the New Thought Arena. But also it
can go into hauntings. Right, But I've so story from
the Kellogg before. We tell a challenging story about Helen
(17:05):
Kellogg on the tour that is, uh, probably one of
the worst stories you could have told about.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yourself after you died. Oh no, had I.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
When I first started, we weren't kind of giving a
more holistic picture of her, and so I felt it
really really important to make sure that we changed the narrative,
and that to.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Me has changed.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's changed the energy of the house, like it's wild,
how active in very different ways the house was. And
then as I brought these other stories in that showed
like that shows uh, Helen's heart for babies, whole different vibe.
So it it And again I'm I'm just trying things, right,
(17:54):
I don't know and so uh but yeah, it's these
different kinds of And I love when when people hear
that I do paranormal investigation because I'm also the paranormal
coordinator for the Heritage Museum of Orange County, which is
an incredible job. To have business cards for it. Let
me tell you, They're like, do you want business cards?
(18:18):
I'm like, yes, absolutely, But that means when people want
to come investigate on the museum grounds, I vet them
and make sure they're upholding the values in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The mission of the museum, right. And so.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know, when when you're you're talking about these things,
so many times people are like, well, I don't believe.
I'm like, I don't, I don't. I don't need you
to believe. I just want you to want to come.
And I joke with people on the tours all the time.
I say, look, if I don't get you with the
ghost stories, I'll get you with the history.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
If I don't get you with the history, I'll gate
with the architecture. Because I'm a delight because I'm a
multifaceted delight.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I am a renaissance woman of the weird, which I'm
going to put on everything.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Now, that was the best statement. I laughed, and I said,
that is going in the introduction renaissance woman of the weird.
Down there is a business card and possibly a vanity plate.
Oh my gosh, but I uh, it's okay not to
believe things, all right, I get that all the time.
It's like, you're not there to do a persuasive.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, this is not This is not a persuasive speech
on gross No, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
It's these are some things and I love that. Have
you ever been up in Big Bear. There's a place
called the Captain's Anchorage, so old tell me about the captains?
Apparently that's a place. It's a it's a great steakhouse,
by the way. And is it an old man's steakhouse? Yeah,
well old steakhouses are old man's steakhouses technically.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know what I'm talking about, though, Like, am I
going to get an iceberg salad before that steak?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah? Yeah, it's yes, it's what you It's exactly what
you expect and want in this place. And there are
people who have been working there for a long time
that will take you upstairs and to show you where
they've had issues and things that they believe. There's this
one person who used to be I think the bookkeeper
for the place, okay, and maybe hanged themselves or something. Yeah,
(20:24):
that they have all these stories, but I think you should.
It's just a really neat place. So when we went
up there, I took my son through there and they
gave us a little tour of stuff like that, because
I thought it was fascinating and I enjoy a good story.
I enjoy the unknown. And I think that as you
(20:46):
are a curator of that information and somebody who passes
it on to those and they can make of it
what they will. But sometimes just the history of a building,
what is it with? What is it with children?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Children?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Creep us the hell out in ghost form. It's so funny,
dolls and Childrey. I'm laughing at Jackie Ray just shook
her head from the top of the building to the
bottom of the building. Okay, hold that thought, because we're
going to take a break. And if Tiffany's listening, Tiffany,
you come in and you can sit and ask some questions.
If you want to, because Tiffany's coming up, I believe
(21:24):
after five o'clock. We're talking right now with Darcy stand
Forth stand a fourth rather a renaissance woman of the weird,
talking about her guided tours both with Haunted Orange County
at hauntedoc dot com and beyond. We'll talk more about
that and why dolls and kids are creepy when they're dead.
(21:44):
I mean, you could know why that is, because we
all feel for them differently. But it's like, and everybody's
from the seventeen hundred, like nobody's gone, dude, that's rad,
Like there's no ghost going.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Bro I mean eventually we are gonna get ghosts named Skyler.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean yeah, that's scarily scary, right, Brosts, Yeah, Brosts, Yeah,
I mean sooner or later, it's gonna be different. Right.
It's like, thou hast come in my house. It's gonna dude,
where's my car? Dude? Dude, dude.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then it just starts talking to you Alexa, and
they're like, stop talking to the Alexa, stop ordering things
on Amazon, ghosts, stop.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It, ghost light lights on?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Bro Right, We're not even gonna need Alexa. We can
just talk to our Ghosts one day.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Forty very special. Hello and thank you for joining us
today as we do our Halloween show today. The holiday
is coming up next week. I think it's Wednesday or
Thursday or something Thursday Thursday. So did the show today
and have really enjoyed my guests. We went through chatting
(23:06):
with Bob Gerr just I mean ninety three years old.
It's fascinating that he was such a huge part of
Disneyland and what we experienced there and all of his
stories and beyond that, I mean he left that in
eighty one, yeah, and has done more things outside of
(23:26):
even the hundred plus things that he's done there. And
then we talked to Derek Young, is one of my
favorite YouTubers who does prop making and does hauntings, you know,
sets up his graveyard in the like the display in
his front yard except this year, which is probably why
we were able to get him. And now talking with
(23:49):
Darcy about you know, hosting these walkthroughs and histories of
haunted places and the like there. But we were talking
a little bit about the spookiness of like Children's dolls,
toys or you know. My son, I mean, no one
taught him this, No one taught him this. But my
(24:09):
wife loves creepy dolls, like old like old school dolls
that weren't necessarily meant to be creepy. Although we have
some of those as well, but from a young age,
he's like, ugh, yeah, that one creeps me out. I mean,
I think when it comes to dolls.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So we have in one of the rooms in the Kellogg,
we have a lot of dolls, and I always have
to give people a doll warning, and I make the joke.
I say, look, you all paid to come on a
haunted historical tour, but if I don't give this warning,
someone's going to be mad.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
This next room there's a lot of dolls and people
get It's like it's like I've had big, burly grown
men walk out.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Nope, not for me, because I mean they don't walk
off the tour, but they're just like not for dolls.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, And I think I'm gonna go have a smoke. Yeah,
I'll be back in the next room.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I think it has a lot to do with the
concept of the uncanny Valley, right, things that look human
but are not clowns. We don't enjoy contemporary legends like
slender Man. Yeah, you know, things with exaggerated features and
things like that. It may also not help even though
as a death scholar, I think she's beautiful, but we
(25:19):
also have.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
A Victorian mourning doll in the house. Yeah. See that's
the type of thing that I would love and my
wife would love. But there. You know what, can I
tell you a fear that I have on the Uncanny Valley? Yes?
Unnatural movements? Oh so like you're crawling on the ceiling
or the weird oh yeah, yeah, the like the Exorcist
(25:41):
crab walk, Yeah that is. Or you know what freaked
me out is in the movie Mars attacks. Yes, the
alien that's dressed as a woman. He turns around and
she leans forward and walks. Asked, Yep, creeps me the
hell out every time, and she's beautiful. Still creeps me
the hell out. Well, there's certain movements. It's like, as
(26:03):
somebody who used to spar and scrap a little bit,
reading a person in certain movements is what makes you
feel safe? What's our biology or mean too? Because it's
like I can't look at an animal's eye and know
what it's going to do. I may not be able
to do that to a human being, but I have
a better chance sure, so that when they walk or
(26:25):
move like I don't want to fight a shark that's
in their territory right And if somebody can walk on ceilings,
I'm at a loss or oh, it gives me the
chills already. I want to shake that mojo off. So
so you think that falls into the dull category.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Two, I think anything with that Uncanny Valley, we just
are like, that's I know what that is, but I
don't know what that is, and so we can't make
full sense of it. And that really bothers us a lot,
which I totally get.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And I think when it comes to kids, I mean,
there we see them is innocent, innocent. And I also
think the weeping woman is it often reaccur something that
we don't want to hear or we.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I also think with kids, because I was talking
to someone about this on at the how waffle House
the other night, like about, oh, I don't want I
don't want to talk about the kids, and I was like,
but they're all of the child spirits that I've ever
interacted with are like very happy very sweet, like not creepy.
But I also think it might tie in toward our
death avoidance because it reminds us that we're not necessarily
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going to get to live till we're old.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Sure, there's no promise, there's no problem real quickly because
we're up against the clock. Can a spirit does a spirit?
At what point do they show themselves? And I mean
what point they're living? So can a child show themselves
as an adult? Or can an adult show themselves as a child?
Or are they sealed in the age they were when
they passed? Or why would we see them one way
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or the other? You know, I don't. I don't have
a really good answer for that, but I really don't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't because we have a child spirit in the
Kellogg that it seems that this during investigations, we've gotten
kind of the same evidence over and over, but the
age has changed. And I'm still processing that, Like, but
you told us you were three and three quarters at
this time, but now you're telling us seven, but now
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you're four, Like it's very different.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then and then we don't have time to get
into trickster spirits, spirits and entities that claim that their
children or innocent things and then.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
One here we call it Kyla. Yeah, real trickster. Where
can people find you on social media and the like?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
People can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Darcy
Staniforth d A R C Y S T A N
I f O r t H and come follow me.
Let me know you found me on the Fork Report
and y all, I've had such a great time.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I love talking with you. I want to Yeah, this
is the longest we've ever had, you know, pull to
have this kind of conversation, But we will have more.
We'll have to have you guys over to the house
and hang out. Absolutely, you are delight and I want
you to meet my wife. She would love you. Fantastic.
You guys would be pals like this. Excellent. She's a weirdo.
I'm different. I love weirdos. Weirdo is not a bad word.
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She is the best kind of weirdo because she has
her own weird but she can put up with other
people's weird like mine. And that's what you look for
in life. All right, Thanks so much, Darcy, Thanks to
all of you for hanging out. Stick around for Tiffany,
who's weird in her own right. Trust me and she'll
get you. You'll be in good hands. Happy Halloween to you,
Be safe and we'll talk again soon. It is the
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Forkport Emil Savager. This is KFI and kost HD two
Los Angeles. You've been listening to the Fork Report. You
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