October 4, 2025 • 34 mins
From props to pumpkin carving. We are talking to the absolute legend Terri Hardin about her career, art, and some tips so you can do it too. It's all on KFIAM-640!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Neil Savedra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is the fore Report. I'm your well fed host,
Neil Savadra. How do you do? Holding in my hand
a book by my next guest, a very talented artist,
Pumpkin Carver And uh former imagineer with Disney, which is Disney?
(00:26):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I've been wondered that do you do you ever leave?
Or is it like once you have your like Seal
Team six or something, Once you have those abilities, they
call you back for projects.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Once an imagineer, always an imagine well, of course, but uh, yes,
because I was very fast at what I did, they
would bring me back. And at one point they asked
me to come back and I said I wasn't able to.
I'll keep the reason why later, but I was unable to.
And so when I came, I said, how can I
be of service? And they said, well, we'll bring in
(01:06):
as a contractor and that allows me to do what
I do on the outside over here, and then what
do you need me? They just reach out and say hey,
are you free, and I say yes or no. I
call it the catbird seat.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, oh yeah, that's a great And of course that
is the voice of Terry Harden, who is We had
her on last year around this time to talk about
pumpkin carving and the like. But you know, I've asked
my friend Derek to Derek Young to stay because he's
also a fan of Disney and the like and to
be able to sit and hang out with you as
(01:40):
a real treat as well. So when it comes to Disney,
you said that you were faster what you do. Every imagineer,
I imagine has to be sort of a universalist in
the sense that you have a bunch of skills, but
you're known for one. What's the skill that they lean
on you for.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally and sculptor
of hard foam, and that means the floral foam that
you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I know
you know this, there's different grades.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
She knows that she's like.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
The two and the.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Gold foam is the four pound phone, and the white
foam is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The six pound foam.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But each one is for carving. And one of the
things that many companies realize because I had been doing
it for the film industry for so long, and they'd
bring in the green foam. And when you carve the
green foam, it creates static, which means it gets all
over you, which means you try to spray yourself off,
and then you go home and someone who's unsuspecting and
loves you and cares about you gets it in their eye.
(02:44):
It's like glass. So I would come in and say,
if you are willing to invest in the gold, the
gold falls to the ground, and Disney said, this is fantastic.
We don't need to wear suits, we don't have to
try and spray off all. All we have to do
is carve it. So that's how a lot of the
gold foam came in.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And that's that's an expertise that you that only comes
from getting that crap in your eye. I mean, really,
it's only once you use any material and you start
learning its limitations and your limitations with it, is when
you become an expert. So what was do you remember
the very first thing you ever carved out of foam.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my dragons Layer. So
underneath the castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(03:43):
are you kidding me? Wait? Aren't we Disney. Don't we
animate stuff? Why is it stone? And I had to
go to battle to fight for it to be animated,
and Tony Baxter, who was in charge, the person I
stood before, said okay, we'll do it, but you got
to design the attraction. And I remember in my heart
I went, oh oh, but I just leat through the door.
(04:05):
I tell everybody, go through that door. Worry about how
to do it later. Right, I would have been, That's
exactly what I did, Just go through the door.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I got this, You know, because you can't know if
it's always, if you're always going to be breaking new
ground in some form, and with a company like Disney,
you have to. Then you can't be sure of anything
but yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I had never done an attraction before. But I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction. It's not, but I will say,
as someone who just recently visited a couple of years ago,
it's absolutely fantastic and probably my favorite thing in the
entire park. I'm so glad that you got to see
it because it breaks my heart when people say, oh,
I went to Paris, and I say, do you see
my did you see my dragon? And they said there's
(04:59):
a dragon in Paris? And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you do slap them hard? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh no, you got to go back to Paris now
and see the dragon And they're like, what do you mean?
I mean, you know, because people save up to go
to these places, you want to make sure they that
they see.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So were you at carving mccuettes. Are you doing it
to scale? Are you creating that and fun?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
We were, we were carving models. I was first hired
in nineteen eighty seven, and it took them three months
to decide that I was someone that they wanted to
have there. Once I went there, they put me in
what was called the rock work division and we started
carving big Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that,
(05:40):
the person I was working with was not the easiest
to get along with, but they said, we think you're
gregarious enough you can do it. And I think the
way we ended up working together was I told him,
you know, we're equal level, and so if he doesn't
want to see me climb all over him when people
of higher authority want to hear about the attraction, then
(06:02):
he needs to enter. He needs to include me. He
was just a few days before me, and he said okay,
And then afterwards he really liked me and wanted me
to do the area where the queue and I said, no,
I'm I'm going to fight for Dragon's Layer because I
had seen it and said, I paid my penance, Now
I want good for you. I want to do and
I asked for dragons Lair and fought for it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone, though I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures want rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring, And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they're, well, no, but it's can't be like carving
a face or carving. But what I realized was when
you're sculpting, most of the time you go from A
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to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop somewhere
on your way to Z because that's where you see
God is God moments. Yeah, So, because if you take
it to the one hundred percent, it looks fake and
you can't do horsehead rock, you can't do papoose rock
because it looks fake. And that's when you realize that
(07:18):
you're going to have to back off of that because
you're not God. And I thought that was really liberating,
you know, learning to carve to a certain point and
then that's what kept it real. But if you went
too far, it was like ah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Ah, yeah, you get into that territory where your humanity
is seen more clearly, and you start going that looks
like the set of Star Trek. You're having a business, yes,
you know, never me. All right, it's the Fork or
Fort Nil Savage. As we celebrate Halloween this month. Of course,
we've got Terry Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress,
(07:57):
but also a book. This book I'm holding my hands
giggling pumpkin, pumpkin that you were kind enough to bring
to me for my boy. And it's got some art
in here by you as well, Disney imagineer at all,
all that wonderful stuff. And we'll come back and talk
about pumpkins and some more. So go know where you're.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
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and what a treat to have Terry back to the show.
She's a Disney imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You, Yes, I do. And this has been a tumultuous
month because people started wanting to book classes and then
they would say, I'd say, I like to provide the
pumpkins so that everybody has an equal chance of carving them.
A lot of people will go to a market and
carve a pumpkin. If you're a first timer, those market
pumpkins can be the devil and you would be trying
(09:30):
to carve it, and you would feel like if you've
done it, if it's your first time, you feel it's
you because that's what first timers do. I can't carve
this pumpkin the way I've seen Terry do it. Why
am I having so much trouble? And if I'm there
with you, I can say because that pumpkin is terrible.
And what you need to do is go to a
pumpkin patch and find a couple of pumpkins that are
(09:53):
really very very good for carving. The dimensional carvings that
you see on outrageous pump which is the show that
I'm the judge on.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So do you have you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, Darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, I want to say.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That it's not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get
you another one.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay. So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons, everything.
How do you how do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner, and I don't like that,
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so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victoria and she has a lot of followers and
she reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass
and we're doing it next weekend on the twelfth. She said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:14):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to answer your question, the easiest is
a white ghost, but not the kind you see at Walmart.
The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge, and
the problem is that it's more closer to a gourd
than it is a pumpkin. You want that super smooth
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white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that has
that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get what's
called a wolf wolf it has what appears to have
a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio from
pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes up
two thirds of the little bitty punkin underneath, or the
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size of the pumpkin if it's a basketball it has
like a three inch or a two and a half inch.
Then that looks like a tree drunk. So you know
that that's a wolf and that's the easiest way to
identify it. Go to a patch and if you don't know, ask,
But these classic jack lantern ones are completely designed and
created for jack Landers for carving a hole and putting
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a light inside. But this technique that I teach and
many have seen is to carve like the show and
do faces and monsters and all kind of skulls.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The flesh the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
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do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're gonna
get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to think of.
You hit something and then all of a sudden, it's
like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back up. To me, well, he
is living with his wife. There are only happy accents. Goes, Okay, he.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did that, my dad, God rest, his soul was an
artist too. He said, use your mistakes. Until I got
into tattooing. I'm like that as easy. The whole key
is not to have them in this case. And do
you let the I don't know, not to get sappy,
but do you let the pumpkin shape speak to you
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as far as how you're gonna what you're gonna put
on it? Or do you go in with, you know,
looking for a pumpkin that fits something that's in your
head already.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:19):
They've seen pumpkins on the internet they want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm going to catch it
from some of my outrageous pumpkins contestants because they do
one thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem
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with that is the beginner we'll look over at the
person next to them and go, oh, mine's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't they
won't go any further. So I can't have that in
my class, with everyone doing something different that they're passionate about. Yes,
it's hard to work for me as a teacher. I'm
leaping around like a leprechaut. But they're so much happier
(15:02):
when they're done, and they never look at someone else
and say that person is doing better than me, because
they're all different.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I love that, and that's a superior teaching method. And
it's a pain in the ass, like what you said,
I but it is because of the fact that, unlike
our school system that tries to fit everybody into one mold,
you teach people on the level and the desire and
the passion of the individual. We'll talk more. Can you
(15:29):
stick around?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Let's talk all right with Terry Harden. She is a
Disney imagineer. She is a pumpkin carver. She is a
delight and an artist and a kindred spirit. We'll talk
more about pumpkin carving when we return on the Fork Report.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevadra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff. So, uh,
it just is. I love this time of year, and
so we're making sure each show is chalk filled with
(16:12):
holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins. And obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
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pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
you know, methods, but I never thought that there's a
species or a type of pumpkin that I should be
looking for. Even though I've carved a gorge and you
(16:56):
know or you know having this, you know a squash
which is the same family and everything, and the flesh
is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so. The wolf, the wolf, and
the big.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Step easy ones. But like on the show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big Mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Holy's small.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's lovely about these, and I try to get them
for beginners. Is the wall is about four inches thick.
When you take the covering off, you have four inches
of depth to play with. And this was usually the
pumpkins I would carve for shows like True Blood or
Desperate Housewives or many of them. Many people would have
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me carve them for parties and stuff, and I would
always say, you know, I can carve it for you,
but take my video and take my tools and I'll
teach you how to do it. In the class, this
is only like a hundred bucks instead of five or
six to have me do it.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So it's a and my Patreon page, which is something
that is just great because people it's the one place
they can find me live and live. We do a
call each week on my Patreon page, and this is
something that they all love to do. So we tried
to get together and do it. This year's been a
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little bit crazier than usual because we lost the location
that we were going to do it at. But I said,
you know, so now we've relocated to a place in
see Me Valley and we're going to do it on Wednesday,
the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and I will
provide the pumpkin and they will be a smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow. I love that. God bless Patreon. I got to
tell you something about artistry. This could be actors, singers, performers, artists.
So there was always a gatekeeper, so someone made money
off of the artist, thry for you to do what
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you do. Patreon moves that out of the way and
allows those of us that love what artists do to
directly pay to them. Of course Patreon takes its portion
or what have you, but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh,
you can only do your art if you do it
through our system and we get the cut. Whether it's
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you know, recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever.
That owning your own craft is important, and it's one
of the reasons why I do what I can to
support artists that I enjoy. Because you know, so I
love that you're on Patreon as well, and well you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Can still do well on it because people find you
and they say, you know, I want to support what
you're doing. I want to support the support your giving
and stuff like that. And I have a YouTube channel
and an Instagram page and all of that 'es bes
Just to google my name. It's easier. Terry Harden dot
com is my website. But Patreon is a place that
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I've decided as I work towards semi retirement, no artist
ever retires, that that's where I'm going to be live.
So if you want to talk to me live, that's
where you're going to be able to do it. Unless
I'm at a venue like these sure courses and classes
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I love it, so there's got to be someone listening
that and I don't just mean that. By the way, Kayla,
there's got to be someone listening. I know that there's
people that there's got I'm sorry to say something. What
there's we know there's people listening. My point being that
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that are looking to get into carving pumpkins, you've told
them what kind of pumpkins they should look into. What
are the tools because it can also be dangerous too,
because the sticky nature of the flesh and the sharp
blade and all of that. So what's the best tools
to carve with?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well, now, on utrageous pumpkins, the pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
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tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terry Harn dot com click on online store and then
you can say.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's cool, So that's what they need.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I've teak about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting.
They're going to see these tools and go, I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is, and you know, and they're made by Kemper,
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them up,
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and so I didn't get to lose I didn't have
to lose those tools. I'm very, very fun.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Doesn't that stink? When things change or don't change hands
and they go away and nobody picks up the legacy
or the molds or the techniques or those types of things.
That's very frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and
once you find something you love, and this is.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A beautiful tool. It's made in the USA. I've carved
with it since it was about twenty fifteen, twenty years old.
So I was devastated when I heard it might not
have You know, it wasn't going to go away. It
was gonna go a wait. I think everybody was buying
a big amount of them, and then Sculpture House stepped
in and said we're going to adopt it. So it's
still good. It's still there. You don't have to rely
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on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You can actually
get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're going to
do right by you, and they really are wonderful for
carving pumpkins.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to about.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Some of the my some of my students want to
stencil because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it
out with Kimber makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a
tiny tool, and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool.
So you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing. And if
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you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger Kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that really,
and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in More Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Farms under I was just looking it up. I think
it's underwood farms and we.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Can see these ghosts. They're about the size of a
large medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes when you take
the white off of it, they are like a casaba
mel and they're white or they're peach. And peach is
like winning at the lottery because they're just beautiful peach
color in the daylight. But then when they're lit you
get all of that as well. But the closer you
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go to the light, the brighter the light. So you
think of a hole in a jack lantern and then
anywhere from the outside where it can be black to
and then between that that strectrum and you can really
create some wonderful things. And lighting them is really good
because your beginner is going to carve and they're gonna
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feel You'll always get one person you're asking, you know,
do you have to kind of coax them along? And
I had one woman. She cried the whole time she
was and I said to her, I say, you're only
an inch deep, you have three inches to go. Let's
fix this. It's fine, You're just not far enough. And
then when we took it into a booth and we
put a light in it, she cried because she couldn't
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believe how gorgeous it was. So it was just someone
who just had heard that voice that people often say
to you, which is, don't quit your day job. What's
that supposed to share? What makes you think you're an artist?
Don't let someone else tell you what you can do
and how you can do it. And I do the
pumpkins to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're
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just listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh yeah, I've been deaf to those voices forever. Derek
and I were talking about those today, about people who
feel the need I mean when you're public in any way,
obviously a YouTube channel or whatever, there's comment sections, whatever.
Thirty years plus of doing talk radio, trust me, I'm
so calloused when people say things. I'm just like, wow,
(26:01):
I apologize if I did anything that made you think
I cared about your opinion, if that was wrong of
me to imply that it's important to me. If you
have you know, if somebody steps out and said, hey,
I heard you say this, and he confused me, that's
a different thing. I said, no, no, no, that's not
what I meant, or you know, that's not really me.
I'm playing a character of poking round with people I
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work with, just the same way you would it your
work or things like that. To clarify, But the people
that sit there in a dark room somewhere in their
mom's basement, try and tell me. I'm like, brother, where
were you when I was climbing this pole in the
first place? But that is really I love that, And Terry,
it's always a real treat to take some time and
(26:43):
chat with you. Please make sure that you give all
the information for people to be able to find you again.
Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, Terry Harden dot com. Is a good place to
start because from there you can go to my Instagram page,
which is Terry Harden Legend. You can go over to
the YouTube channel which is just put it in there
under Terry Harden. It really is best to google because
there's two Wikipedia pages. Someone has done a dulcier on
me that's like twenty four pages long. Wow, And I
(27:11):
was amazed at how much I had done when I
read it, and I was like, this is kind of
fun that someone else decided to do this. I guess
others would think it was a stalker, but honestly, I
really did love that they.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Seriously, I double think that whole stalker thing. That's a
good puff. Anybody wrote twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Pages, and it really has done me well because there
are places that want me to speak at schools and things.
Oh one, I'll do it a bio that's short, and
I'll say I have this one that's twenty four pages long,
and they go, let me have that one, and they'll
actually read through the whole thing. So it's I think
the main thing is that if someone is out there
(27:49):
and they're worried that their topic is to everybody's talking
about it and whatever, just remember you, you are your
unique self sure and you always have something to add
to the conversation. So please, if you want to do
a YouTube channel, if you want to, you know, talk
on the Instagram or whatever, just do it because you'll
(28:12):
find that, even if nobody's listening, it's a good vit
point for you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah. Yeah, do it for yourself first, and people can
figure out what to do with it after.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
My opinion out in the airwaves. Let's see if anybody's listening.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Stick around. Will have one final segment as we as
we usher in Tiffany Hobbs, who comes up at five o'clock,
we'll chat just a little bit more. I think what
a twenty five page Wikipedia page on me would be.
Neil's been in radio for a very very very very
very very very very very very how many pages, very
(28:46):
very very AnyWho.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
You're listening to The Fork Report with nilsa Adra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
My YouTube but YouTube is it's Terry. You can do
Terry harden slash. It's Terry. I do my best to
do a broadcast every Monday and just talk about the
upcoming news. Like the figure from of Walt Disney was
one of the later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
(29:17):
Then then there's the instag you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it's very lovely that you keep yourself so accessible
to other creatives and people that want to learn. Thanks
for taking time to come on. It's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you for asking me. Thank you for of course
you're a perennial times a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have to do two things already on my in
my car, so when I use his car, I don't
have to search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's lots we like to hear. And what you'll be
listening to on your way home is this next lady,
Tiffany Hobbs. How are you?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm well, you have two so cow legends in here, Terry,
I'm I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck following Neil
because he has the best guests but no one has
ever come in here with that jacket that you have here, Terry,
with the soles on it. You can leave that behind
(30:28):
you as a partying gift for your love for the.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Station design myself.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Please, that is incredible. Oh my god, but I'm well,
how are you, neil I? Hello's right, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay, hie. No, it's this is leading into your show.
This is where we do the handshake. Yes, and you
grab the baton and hopefully not drop it. No, I
never do. I enjoy your show. And I told you
when I saw you today that I'm very proud of you.
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
(31:05):
and thought. It's very easy to be ejaculatory and needs
on the station. And I like thinkers.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Thank you. Yeah, I like to think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you. I put
the socowhaunt list dot Com into my phone because I
love a good haunt. I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I love it. I love I don't know. I love
make believe and the more real you can make it,
the more I suspend disbelief, the better. And uh and
I love that. So what's going on tonight on the
Tiffany h Speaking of.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Real things, we have quite a few updates about some
huge stories in the news. Of course, Sean Diddycomb's was sentenced.
I'll tell you about what happened in the courtroom yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
More like a phrase than a sentence.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
More that's abbreviation at this point, but he will do
some time. And as you've been hearing, former USC quarterback
Mark Sanchez was stabbed, right, and now he's a round
the Yeah, there's some crazy twists and turns to this story.
So I have some of the details as they continue
to unfold, because this is an ever unfolding situation. We're
(32:21):
going to talk about kind of the blowback from the
Chevron refinery fire. What does it mean for your gas prices?
That's definitely the question on everybody everyone's minds. No fatalities,
no injuries, luckily, but what will happen to gas prices?
Costco is going to be stocking their shelves with something
that could change your life. I'll tell you what that is.
(32:42):
And I fully expect Bill to do this story on
Monday because it's a Costco story and he loves his Costco.
So I'll share the details therein keep listening and deep dive.
At six o'clock, we're going to get into why kids
can't read anymore. It's a lot to this, and then
after six thirty a pair of AI and chat GPT
(33:02):
stories that will undoubtedly terrify you. Speaking of haunts and
speaking of real and speaking of not real AI and
chat GPT, all of those things are going to mesh
together for our final final pair of stories, Big show.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
I like that. Now that's guy and everybody else is
talking weird with all these full sentences and syntax and
all that stuff. Weird.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Seriously, or as the kids would say before GTA six video.
Yeah there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Always good to see you. I will be listening and
have a wonderful show thanks to my wonderful guests. To
be Halloween and we will catch you again next week.
Have empathy, be kind to each other. It's free. This
is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. You've
been listening to the Fork Report. You can always hear
(34:08):
us live on KFI AM six forty two to five
pm on Saturday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Hey, it's Neil Savedra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is the fore Report. I'm your well fed host,
Neil Savadra. How do you do? Holding in my hand
a book by my next guest, a very talented artist,
Pumpkin Carver And uh former imagineer with Disney, which is Disney?
(00:26):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I've been wondered that do you do you ever leave?
Or is it like once you have your like Seal
Team six or something, Once you have those abilities, they
call you back for projects.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Once an imagineer, always an imagine well, of course, but uh, yes,
because I was very fast at what I did, they
would bring me back. And at one point they asked
me to come back and I said I wasn't able to.
I'll keep the reason why later, but I was unable to.
And so when I came, I said, how can I
be of service? And they said, well, we'll bring in
(01:06):
as a contractor and that allows me to do what
I do on the outside over here, and then what
do you need me? They just reach out and say hey,
are you free, and I say yes or no. I
call it the catbird seat.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, oh yeah, that's a great And of course that
is the voice of Terry Harden, who is We had
her on last year around this time to talk about
pumpkin carving and the like. But you know, I've asked
my friend Derek to Derek Young to stay because he's
also a fan of Disney and the like and to
be able to sit and hang out with you as
(01:40):
a real treat as well. So when it comes to Disney,
you said that you were faster what you do. Every imagineer,
I imagine has to be sort of a universalist in
the sense that you have a bunch of skills, but
you're known for one. What's the skill that they lean
on you for.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally and sculptor
of hard foam, and that means the floral foam that
you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I know
you know this, there's different grades.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
She knows that she's like.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
The two and the.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Gold foam is the four pound phone, and the white
foam is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The six pound foam.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But each one is for carving. And one of the
things that many companies realize because I had been doing
it for the film industry for so long, and they'd
bring in the green foam. And when you carve the
green foam, it creates static, which means it gets all
over you, which means you try to spray yourself off,
and then you go home and someone who's unsuspecting and
loves you and cares about you gets it in their eye.
(02:44):
It's like glass. So I would come in and say,
if you are willing to invest in the gold, the
gold falls to the ground, and Disney said, this is fantastic.
We don't need to wear suits, we don't have to
try and spray off all. All we have to do
is carve it. So that's how a lot of the
gold foam came in.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And that's that's an expertise that you that only comes
from getting that crap in your eye. I mean, really,
it's only once you use any material and you start
learning its limitations and your limitations with it, is when
you become an expert. So what was do you remember
the very first thing you ever carved out of foam.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my dragons Layer. So
underneath the castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(03:43):
are you kidding me? Wait? Aren't we Disney. Don't we
animate stuff? Why is it stone? And I had to
go to battle to fight for it to be animated,
and Tony Baxter, who was in charge, the person I
stood before, said okay, we'll do it, but you got
to design the attraction. And I remember in my heart
I went, oh oh, but I just leat through the door.
(04:05):
I tell everybody, go through that door. Worry about how
to do it later. Right, I would have been, That's
exactly what I did, Just go through the door.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I got this, You know, because you can't know if
it's always, if you're always going to be breaking new
ground in some form, and with a company like Disney,
you have to. Then you can't be sure of anything
but yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I had never done an attraction before. But I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction. It's not, but I will say,
as someone who just recently visited a couple of years ago,
it's absolutely fantastic and probably my favorite thing in the
entire park. I'm so glad that you got to see
it because it breaks my heart when people say, oh,
I went to Paris, and I say, do you see
my did you see my dragon? And they said there's
(04:59):
a dragon in Paris? And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you do slap them hard? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh no, you got to go back to Paris now
and see the dragon And they're like, what do you mean?
I mean, you know, because people save up to go
to these places, you want to make sure they that
they see.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So were you at carving mccuettes. Are you doing it
to scale? Are you creating that and fun?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
We were, we were carving models. I was first hired
in nineteen eighty seven, and it took them three months
to decide that I was someone that they wanted to
have there. Once I went there, they put me in
what was called the rock work division and we started
carving big Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that,
(05:40):
the person I was working with was not the easiest
to get along with, but they said, we think you're
gregarious enough you can do it. And I think the
way we ended up working together was I told him,
you know, we're equal level, and so if he doesn't
want to see me climb all over him when people
of higher authority want to hear about the attraction, then
(06:02):
he needs to enter. He needs to include me. He
was just a few days before me, and he said okay,
And then afterwards he really liked me and wanted me
to do the area where the queue and I said, no,
I'm I'm going to fight for Dragon's Layer because I
had seen it and said, I paid my penance, Now
I want good for you. I want to do and
I asked for dragons Lair and fought for it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone, though I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures want rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring, And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they're, well, no, but it's can't be like carving
a face or carving. But what I realized was when
you're sculpting, most of the time you go from A
(06:57):
to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop somewhere
on your way to Z because that's where you see
God is God moments. Yeah, So, because if you take
it to the one hundred percent, it looks fake and
you can't do horsehead rock, you can't do papoose rock
because it looks fake. And that's when you realize that
(07:18):
you're going to have to back off of that because
you're not God. And I thought that was really liberating,
you know, learning to carve to a certain point and
then that's what kept it real. But if you went
too far, it was like ah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Ah, yeah, you get into that territory where your humanity
is seen more clearly, and you start going that looks
like the set of Star Trek. You're having a business, yes,
you know, never me. All right, it's the Fork or
Fort Nil Savage. As we celebrate Halloween this month. Of course,
we've got Terry Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress,
(07:57):
but also a book. This book I'm holding my hands
giggling pumpkin, pumpkin that you were kind enough to bring
to me for my boy. And it's got some art
in here by you as well, Disney imagineer at all,
all that wonderful stuff. And we'll come back and talk
about pumpkins and some more. So go know where you're.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
(08:49):
and what a treat to have Terry back to the show.
She's a Disney imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You, Yes, I do. And this has been a tumultuous
month because people started wanting to book classes and then
they would say, I'd say, I like to provide the
pumpkins so that everybody has an equal chance of carving them.
A lot of people will go to a market and
carve a pumpkin. If you're a first timer, those market
pumpkins can be the devil and you would be trying
(09:30):
to carve it, and you would feel like if you've
done it, if it's your first time, you feel it's
you because that's what first timers do. I can't carve
this pumpkin the way I've seen Terry do it. Why
am I having so much trouble? And if I'm there
with you, I can say because that pumpkin is terrible.
And what you need to do is go to a
pumpkin patch and find a couple of pumpkins that are
(09:53):
really very very good for carving. The dimensional carvings that
you see on outrageous pump which is the show that
I'm the judge on.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So do you have you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, Darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, I want to say.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That it's not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get
you another one.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay. So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons, everything.
How do you how do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner, and I don't like that,
(10:53):
so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victoria and she has a lot of followers and
she reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass
and we're doing it next weekend on the twelfth. She said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:14):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to answer your question, the easiest is
a white ghost, but not the kind you see at Walmart.
The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge, and
the problem is that it's more closer to a gourd
than it is a pumpkin. You want that super smooth
(11:35):
white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that has
that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get what's
called a wolf wolf it has what appears to have
a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio from
pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes up
two thirds of the little bitty punkin underneath, or the
(11:56):
size of the pumpkin if it's a basketball it has
like a three inch or a two and a half inch.
Then that looks like a tree drunk. So you know
that that's a wolf and that's the easiest way to
identify it. Go to a patch and if you don't know, ask,
But these classic jack lantern ones are completely designed and
created for jack Landers for carving a hole and putting
(12:18):
a light inside. But this technique that I teach and
many have seen is to carve like the show and
do faces and monsters and all kind of skulls.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The flesh the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
(12:52):
do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're gonna
get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to think of.
You hit something and then all of a sudden, it's
like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back up. To me, well, he
is living with his wife. There are only happy accents. Goes, Okay, he.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did that, my dad, God rest, his soul was an
artist too. He said, use your mistakes. Until I got
into tattooing. I'm like that as easy. The whole key
is not to have them in this case. And do
you let the I don't know, not to get sappy,
but do you let the pumpkin shape speak to you
(13:49):
as far as how you're gonna what you're gonna put
on it? Or do you go in with, you know,
looking for a pumpkin that fits something that's in your
head already.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:19):
They've seen pumpkins on the internet they want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm going to catch it
from some of my outrageous pumpkins contestants because they do
one thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem
(14:40):
with that is the beginner we'll look over at the
person next to them and go, oh, mine's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't they
won't go any further. So I can't have that in
my class, with everyone doing something different that they're passionate about. Yes,
it's hard to work for me as a teacher. I'm
leaping around like a leprechaut. But they're so much happier
(15:02):
when they're done, and they never look at someone else
and say that person is doing better than me, because
they're all different.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I love that, and that's a superior teaching method. And
it's a pain in the ass, like what you said,
I but it is because of the fact that, unlike
our school system that tries to fit everybody into one mold,
you teach people on the level and the desire and
the passion of the individual. We'll talk more. Can you
(15:29):
stick around?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Let's talk all right with Terry Harden. She is a
Disney imagineer. She is a pumpkin carver. She is a
delight and an artist and a kindred spirit. We'll talk
more about pumpkin carving when we return on the Fork Report.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevadra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff. So, uh,
it just is. I love this time of year, and
so we're making sure each show is chalk filled with
(16:12):
holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins. And obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
(16:33):
pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
you know, methods, but I never thought that there's a
species or a type of pumpkin that I should be
looking for. Even though I've carved a gorge and you
(16:56):
know or you know having this, you know a squash
which is the same family and everything, and the flesh
is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so. The wolf, the wolf, and
the big.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Step easy ones. But like on the show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big Mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Holy's small.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's lovely about these, and I try to get them
for beginners. Is the wall is about four inches thick.
When you take the covering off, you have four inches
of depth to play with. And this was usually the
pumpkins I would carve for shows like True Blood or
Desperate Housewives or many of them. Many people would have
(17:49):
me carve them for parties and stuff, and I would
always say, you know, I can carve it for you,
but take my video and take my tools and I'll
teach you how to do it. In the class, this
is only like a hundred bucks instead of five or
six to have me do it.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So it's a and my Patreon page, which is something
that is just great because people it's the one place
they can find me live and live. We do a
call each week on my Patreon page, and this is
something that they all love to do. So we tried
to get together and do it. This year's been a
(18:28):
little bit crazier than usual because we lost the location
that we were going to do it at. But I said,
you know, so now we've relocated to a place in
see Me Valley and we're going to do it on Wednesday,
the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and I will
provide the pumpkin and they will be a smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow. I love that. God bless Patreon. I got to
tell you something about artistry. This could be actors, singers, performers, artists.
So there was always a gatekeeper, so someone made money
off of the artist, thry for you to do what
(19:07):
you do. Patreon moves that out of the way and
allows those of us that love what artists do to
directly pay to them. Of course Patreon takes its portion
or what have you, but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh,
you can only do your art if you do it
through our system and we get the cut. Whether it's
(19:28):
you know, recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever.
That owning your own craft is important, and it's one
of the reasons why I do what I can to
support artists that I enjoy. Because you know, so I
love that you're on Patreon as well, and well you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Can still do well on it because people find you
and they say, you know, I want to support what
you're doing. I want to support the support your giving
and stuff like that. And I have a YouTube channel
and an Instagram page and all of that 'es bes
Just to google my name. It's easier. Terry Harden dot
com is my website. But Patreon is a place that
(20:09):
I've decided as I work towards semi retirement, no artist
ever retires, that that's where I'm going to be live.
So if you want to talk to me live, that's
where you're going to be able to do it. Unless
I'm at a venue like these sure courses and classes
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I love it, so there's got to be someone listening
that and I don't just mean that. By the way, Kayla,
there's got to be someone listening. I know that there's
people that there's got I'm sorry to say something. What
there's we know there's people listening. My point being that
(20:46):
that are looking to get into carving pumpkins, you've told
them what kind of pumpkins they should look into. What
are the tools because it can also be dangerous too,
because the sticky nature of the flesh and the sharp
blade and all of that. So what's the best tools
to carve with?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well, now, on utrageous pumpkins, the pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
(21:23):
tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terry Harn dot com click on online store and then
you can say.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's cool, So that's what they need.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I've teak about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting.
They're going to see these tools and go, I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is, and you know, and they're made by Kemper,
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them up,
(21:54):
and so I didn't get to lose I didn't have
to lose those tools. I'm very, very fun.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Doesn't that stink? When things change or don't change hands
and they go away and nobody picks up the legacy
or the molds or the techniques or those types of things.
That's very frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and
once you find something you love, and this is.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A beautiful tool. It's made in the USA. I've carved
with it since it was about twenty fifteen, twenty years old.
So I was devastated when I heard it might not
have You know, it wasn't going to go away. It
was gonna go a wait. I think everybody was buying
a big amount of them, and then Sculpture House stepped
in and said we're going to adopt it. So it's
still good. It's still there. You don't have to rely
(22:37):
on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You can actually
get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're going to
do right by you, and they really are wonderful for
carving pumpkins.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to about.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Some of the my some of my students want to
stencil because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it
out with Kimber makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a
tiny tool, and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool.
So you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing. And if
(23:19):
you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger Kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that really,
and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in More Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Farms under I was just looking it up. I think
it's underwood farms and we.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Can see these ghosts. They're about the size of a
large medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes when you take
the white off of it, they are like a casaba
mel and they're white or they're peach. And peach is
like winning at the lottery because they're just beautiful peach
color in the daylight. But then when they're lit you
get all of that as well. But the closer you
(24:34):
go to the light, the brighter the light. So you
think of a hole in a jack lantern and then
anywhere from the outside where it can be black to
and then between that that strectrum and you can really
create some wonderful things. And lighting them is really good
because your beginner is going to carve and they're gonna
(24:56):
feel You'll always get one person you're asking, you know,
do you have to kind of coax them along? And
I had one woman. She cried the whole time she
was and I said to her, I say, you're only
an inch deep, you have three inches to go. Let's
fix this. It's fine, You're just not far enough. And
then when we took it into a booth and we
put a light in it, she cried because she couldn't
(25:18):
believe how gorgeous it was. So it was just someone
who just had heard that voice that people often say
to you, which is, don't quit your day job. What's
that supposed to share? What makes you think you're an artist?
Don't let someone else tell you what you can do
and how you can do it. And I do the
pumpkins to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're
(25:39):
just listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh yeah, I've been deaf to those voices forever. Derek
and I were talking about those today, about people who
feel the need I mean when you're public in any way,
obviously a YouTube channel or whatever, there's comment sections, whatever.
Thirty years plus of doing talk radio, trust me, I'm
so calloused when people say things. I'm just like, wow,
(26:01):
I apologize if I did anything that made you think
I cared about your opinion, if that was wrong of
me to imply that it's important to me. If you
have you know, if somebody steps out and said, hey,
I heard you say this, and he confused me, that's
a different thing. I said, no, no, no, that's not
what I meant, or you know, that's not really me.
I'm playing a character of poking round with people I
(26:22):
work with, just the same way you would it your
work or things like that. To clarify, But the people
that sit there in a dark room somewhere in their
mom's basement, try and tell me. I'm like, brother, where
were you when I was climbing this pole in the
first place? But that is really I love that, And Terry,
it's always a real treat to take some time and
(26:43):
chat with you. Please make sure that you give all
the information for people to be able to find you again.
Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, Terry Harden dot com. Is a good place to
start because from there you can go to my Instagram page,
which is Terry Harden Legend. You can go over to
the YouTube channel which is just put it in there
under Terry Harden. It really is best to google because
there's two Wikipedia pages. Someone has done a dulcier on
me that's like twenty four pages long. Wow, And I
(27:11):
was amazed at how much I had done when I
read it, and I was like, this is kind of
fun that someone else decided to do this. I guess
others would think it was a stalker, but honestly, I
really did love that they.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Seriously, I double think that whole stalker thing. That's a
good puff. Anybody wrote twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Pages, and it really has done me well because there
are places that want me to speak at schools and things.
Oh one, I'll do it a bio that's short, and
I'll say I have this one that's twenty four pages long,
and they go, let me have that one, and they'll
actually read through the whole thing. So it's I think
the main thing is that if someone is out there
(27:49):
and they're worried that their topic is to everybody's talking
about it and whatever, just remember you, you are your
unique self sure and you always have something to add
to the conversation. So please, if you want to do
a YouTube channel, if you want to, you know, talk
on the Instagram or whatever, just do it because you'll
(28:12):
find that, even if nobody's listening, it's a good vit
point for you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah. Yeah, do it for yourself first, and people can
figure out what to do with it after.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
My opinion out in the airwaves. Let's see if anybody's listening.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Stick around. Will have one final segment as we as
we usher in Tiffany Hobbs, who comes up at five o'clock,
we'll chat just a little bit more. I think what
a twenty five page Wikipedia page on me would be.
Neil's been in radio for a very very very very
very very very very very very how many pages, very
(28:46):
very very AnyWho.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
You're listening to The Fork Report with nilsa Adra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
My YouTube but YouTube is it's Terry. You can do
Terry harden slash. It's Terry. I do my best to
do a broadcast every Monday and just talk about the
upcoming news. Like the figure from of Walt Disney was
one of the later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
(29:17):
Then then there's the instag you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it's very lovely that you keep yourself so accessible
to other creatives and people that want to learn. Thanks
for taking time to come on. It's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you for asking me. Thank you for of course
you're a perennial times a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have to do two things already on my in
my car, so when I use his car, I don't
have to search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's lots we like to hear. And what you'll be
listening to on your way home is this next lady,
Tiffany Hobbs. How are you?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm well, you have two so cow legends in here, Terry,
I'm I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck following Neil
because he has the best guests but no one has
ever come in here with that jacket that you have here, Terry,
with the soles on it. You can leave that behind
(30:28):
you as a partying gift for your love for the.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Station design myself.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Please, that is incredible. Oh my god, but I'm well,
how are you, neil I? Hello's right, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay, hie. No, it's this is leading into your show.
This is where we do the handshake. Yes, and you
grab the baton and hopefully not drop it. No, I
never do. I enjoy your show. And I told you
when I saw you today that I'm very proud of you.
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
(31:05):
and thought. It's very easy to be ejaculatory and needs
on the station. And I like thinkers.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Thank you. Yeah, I like to think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you. I put
the socowhaunt list dot Com into my phone because I
love a good haunt. I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I love it. I love I don't know. I love
make believe and the more real you can make it,
the more I suspend disbelief, the better. And uh and
I love that. So what's going on tonight on the
Tiffany h Speaking of.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Real things, we have quite a few updates about some
huge stories in the news. Of course, Sean Diddycomb's was sentenced.
I'll tell you about what happened in the courtroom yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
More like a phrase than a sentence.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
More that's abbreviation at this point, but he will do
some time. And as you've been hearing, former USC quarterback
Mark Sanchez was stabbed, right, and now he's a round
the Yeah, there's some crazy twists and turns to this story.
So I have some of the details as they continue
to unfold, because this is an ever unfolding situation. We're
(32:21):
going to talk about kind of the blowback from the
Chevron refinery fire. What does it mean for your gas prices?
That's definitely the question on everybody everyone's minds. No fatalities,
no injuries, luckily, but what will happen to gas prices?
Costco is going to be stocking their shelves with something
that could change your life. I'll tell you what that is.
(32:42):
And I fully expect Bill to do this story on
Monday because it's a Costco story and he loves his Costco.
So I'll share the details therein keep listening and deep dive.
At six o'clock, we're going to get into why kids
can't read anymore. It's a lot to this, and then
after six thirty a pair of AI and chat GPT
(33:02):
stories that will undoubtedly terrify you. Speaking of haunts and
speaking of real and speaking of not real AI and
chat GPT, all of those things are going to mesh
together for our final final pair of stories, Big show.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
I like that. Now that's guy and everybody else is
talking weird with all these full sentences and syntax and
all that stuff. Weird.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Seriously, or as the kids would say before GTA six video.
Yeah there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Always good to see you. I will be listening and
have a wonderful show thanks to my wonderful guests. To
be Halloween and we will catch you again next week.
Have empathy, be kind to each other. It's free. This
is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. You've
been listening to the Fork Report. You can always hear
(34:08):
us live on KFI AM six forty two to five
pm on Saturday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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