October 25, 2025 • 32 mins
Terri Hardin is talking all things pumpkin carving for the spooky season. The type of pumpkins you want to buy and exactly how to carve. That and more onKFIAM-640!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
Happy Saturday to you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You're listening to KFI of course, and this is the
four Report. I'm your well fed host, Neil Savandra.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
How do you do? Holding in my hand?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
A book by my next guest, very talented artist Pumpkin
Carver and uh a former imagineer with Disney.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Which is an imagineer with Disney.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I can wondered that. Do you do you ever leave?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Or is it like once you have like Seal Team
six or something, Once you have those abilities, they call
you back for projects.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Once an imagineer, always an imagine well, of course, but yes,
because I was very fast at what I did, they
would bring me back. And at one point they asked
me to come back and I said I wasn't able to.
I'll keep the reason why later, but I was unable to.
And so when I came, I said, how can I
be of service? And they said, well, we'll bring in
(01:47):
as a contractor and that allows me to do what
I do on the outside over here, and then once
they need me, they just reach out and say, hey,
are you free, and I say yes or no. I
call it the cat bird seat.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, yeah, that's a great and of course that is
the voice of Terry Harden, who is we had her
on last year around this time to talk about pumpkin
carving and the like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But you know, I've asked my friend Derek to Derek
Young to stay because he's also a fan of Disney
and the like and to be able to sit and
hang out with you as a real treat as well.
So when it comes to Disney, you said that you
were faster what you do. Every imagineer, I imagine has to
be sort of a universalist in the sense that you
(02:32):
have a bunch of skills. But you're known for one.
What what's the skill that they lean on you for.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally, and a
sculptor of hard foam, and that means the floral foam
that you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I
know you know this, there's different grades. He knows that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He's like, okay, the two.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Four pone man. The white foam is the six pound
foam and each one is for carving. And one of
the things that many companies realize because I had been
doing it for the film industry for so long, and
they'd bring in the green foam. And when you carve
the green foam, it creates static, which means it gets
all over you sure, which means you try to spray
yourself off, and then you go home and someone who's
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unsuspecting and loves you and cares about you gets it
in their eye. It's like glass. So I would come
in and say, if you are willing to invest in
the gold, the gold falls to the ground. And Disney said,
this is fantastic. We don't need to wear suits, we
don't have to try and spray off all we all
we have to do is carve it. So that's how
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a lot of the gold foam came in.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's that's an expertise you That only comes from
getting that crap in your eye. I mean really, it's
only once you use any material and you start learning
its limitations and your limitations with it, is when you
become an expert. So what was do you remember the
very first thing you ever carved out of foam?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my Dragon's layer. So
underneath a castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(04:24):
are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Aren't we Disney? Don't we animate stuff? Why is it stone?
And I had to go to battle to fight for
it to be animated, and Tony Baxter, who was in charge,
the person I stood before, said okay, we'll do it,
but you got to design the attraction. And I remember
in my heart, I went, oh oh, but I just
leat through the door. I tell everybody go through that door,
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worry about how to do it later, right, I would
have been That's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Just got through the door.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I got this, you know, because you can't know if
it's always if you're always going to be breaking new
ground in some form, and with a company like this
you have to.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Then you can't be sure of anything but yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And I had never done an attraction before, but I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
It's not, but I will say, as someone who just
recently visited a couple of years ago, it's absolutely fantastic
and probably my favorite thing in the entire park all that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So I'm so.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Glad that you got to see it, because it breaks
my heart when people say, oh, I went to Paris,
and I say, do you see my did you see
my dragon? And they said there's a dragon in Paris?
And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do you do slap them hard?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh? Oh? No?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
You got to go back to Paris now and see
the dragon And they're like, what do you mean? I mean,
you know, because people save up to go to these places,
you want to make sure they that they see.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So were you carving mcquets? Are you doing it to scale?
Are you creating that in full?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We were carving models. I was first hired in nineteen
eighty seven, and it took them three months to decide
that I was someone that they wanted to have there.
Once I went there, they put me in what was
called the rock work division and we started carving Big
Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that, the person
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I was working with was not the easiest to get
along with, but they said, we think you're gregarious enough
you can do it. And I think the way we
ended up working together was I told him, you know,
we're equal level, and so if he doesn't want to
see me climb all over him when people of higher
authority want to hear about the attraction, then he needs enter.
(06:44):
He needs to include me. He was just a few
days before me, and he said okay, And then afterwards
he really liked me and wanted me to do the
area where the queue and I said no, I'm I'm
going to fight for Dragon's lair because I had seen
it and said, I paid my pen. Now I want
good for you. I want to do and I asked
for dragons learn and fought for it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone though, I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures went rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring? And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they're, well, no, but it's it can't be like
carving a face or carving. But what I realized was
when you're sculpting, most of the time you go from
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A to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop
somewhere on your way to Z because that's where you
see God is God moments.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So, because if you take it to the one hundred percent,
it looks fake and you can't do horsehead rock, you
can't do papoose rock because it looks fake. And that's
when you realize that you're going to have to back
off of that because you're not God. And I thought
that was really liberating, you know, learning to carve to
a certain point and then that's what kept it real.
(08:11):
But if you went too far, it was like, uh ah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You get into that territory where your humanity is seen
more clearly and you start going that looks like the
set of Star Trek.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You're having a business complex, are you?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Never me?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, it's the Fork or Fort Nil Savadre. As
we celebrate Halloween this month. Of course, we've got Terry
Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress, but also a book.
This book I'm holding my hands giggling pumpkin pumpkin that
you were kind enough to bring to me for my boy.
(08:48):
And it's got some art in here by you as well,
Disney Imagineer at all all that wonderful stuff. And we'll
come back and talk about pumpkins and some more. So
go know where you're.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
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and what a treat to have.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Terry back to the show.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
She's a Disney imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't you.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yes, I do. And this has been a tumultuous month
because people started wanting to book classes and then they
would say, I'd say, I like to provide the pumpkins
so that everybody has an equal chance of carving them.
A lot of people will go to a market and
carve a pumpkin. If you're a first timer, those market
pumpkins can be the devil and you would be trying
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to carve it and you'd feel like if you've done it,
if it's your first time, you feel it's you because
that's what first timers do. I can't carve this pumpkin
the way I've seen Terry do it. Why am I
having so much trouble? And if I'm there with you,
I can say because that pumpkin is terrible. And what
you need to do is go to a pumpkin patch
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and find a couple of pumpkins that are really, very
very good for carving the dimensional carvings that you see
on Outrageous Pumpkins, which is the show that I'm the
judge on.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So do you if you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, I want to say that it's.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get you another one.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons everything.
How do you How do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner, and I don't like that,
(11:34):
so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victorian. She has a lot of followers, and she
reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass and
we're doing it next weekend on the twelfth. She said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:55):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to add to your question, the easiest
is a white ghost, but not the kind you see
at Walmart. The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge,
and the problem is that it's more closer to a
gored than it is a pumpkin. You want that super
smooth white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that
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has that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get
what's called a wolf wolf. It has what appears to
have a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio
from pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes
up two thirds of the little bitty bunkin underneath, or
the size of the pumpkin. If it's a basketball, it
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has like a three inch or a two and a
half inch them that looks like a tree trunk. So
you know that that's a wolf. And that's the easiest
way to identify it. Go to a patch and if
you don't know, ask, But these classic jack lantern ones
are completely designed and created for jack landers for carving
a hole and putting a light inside. This technique that
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I teach and many have seen is to carve like
the show and do faces and monsters and all kinds skulls.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
The flesh, the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
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do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're going
to get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to
think it's awful. You hit something and then all of
a sudden, it's like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back up to me, Well, you're
still living with his wife because there are only happy actions.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Because okay, he did that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
My dad, God rest his soul, was an artist too.
He said, use your mistakes. Until I got into tattooing,
I'm like, it's not as easy. The whole key is
not to have them in this case. And do you
let the I don't know, not to get sappy, but
do you let the pumpkin shape speak to you as
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far as how you're going to what you're gonna put
on it? Or do you go in with, you know,
looking for a pumpkin that fits something that's in your
head already.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:59):
They've seen pumpkins that on the internet. They want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm gonna catch it from
some of my outrageous Pumpkins contestants, because they do one
thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem with
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that is a beginner we'll look over at the person
next to them and go, oh, it's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't go
they won't go any further. So I can't have that
in my class, with everyone doing something different that they're
passionate about. Yes, it's hard to work for me as
a teacher. I'm leaping around with a leprechat, but there's
so much when they're done, and they never look at
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someone else and say that person is doing better than me,
because they're all different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I love that, and that's a that's a superior teaching
method and it's a pain in the ass. Like what
you said, I but it is because of the fact that,
like our school system that tries to fit everybody into
one mold, you teach people on the level and the
desire and the passion of the individual. We'll talk more.
(16:08):
Can you stick around here. Let's talk all right with
Terry Harden. She is a Disney imagineer. She is a
pumpkin carver. She is a delight and an artist and
a kindred spirit. And we'll talk more about pumpkin carving
when we return on the forker Port.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
You're listening to the fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff.
So it just is I love this time of year,
and so we're making sure each shows chalk filled with
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holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins, and obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
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pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
uh you know, methods, but I never thought that there's
a species or a type of pumpkin that I should
be looking for, even though I've carved a gorge and
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you know, or you know having this, you know a
squash which is the same family and everything, and the
flesh is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so the wolf with.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The wolf with the big step.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Easy ones, but like on the Show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big Mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds. But that's lovely about these, and
I try to get them for beginners. Is the wall
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is about four inches thick. When you take the covering off,
you have four inches of depth to play with. And
this was usually the pumpkins I would carve for shows
like True Blood or Desperate Housewives or many of them.
Many people would have me carve them for parties and stuff,
and I would always say, you know, I can carve
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it for you, but take my video and take my
tools and I'll teach you how to do it. And
the class is only like a hundred bucks instead of
five or six to have.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Me do it.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You know. So it's and my Patreon page, which is
something that is just great because people it's the one
place they can find me live and live. We do
a call each week on my Patreon page, and this
is something that they all love to do. So we
tried to get together and do it. This year's been
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a little bit crazier than usual because we lost the
location that we were going to do it at, but
I said, you know, so now we've relocated to a
place in Seemi Valley and we're going to do it
on Wednesday, the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and
I will provide the pumpkin and they will be a
smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wow. I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
God bless Patreon. I'm going to tell you something about artistry.
This could be actors, singers, performers, artists. So there was
always a gatekeeper, so someone made money off of the
artistry for you to do what you do. Patreon moves
(19:48):
out out of the way and allows those of us
that love what artists do to directly pay to them.
Of course, Patreon takes its portion or what have you,
but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh, you can
only do your art if you do it through our
system and we get the cut. Whether it's you know,
recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever. That
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owning your own craft is important and it's one of
the reasons why I do what I can to support
artists that I enjoy because you know, so I love
that you're on Patreon as well, and even well, you.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Can still do well on it because people find you
and they say, you know, I want to support what
you're doing. I want to support the support your giving
and stuff like that. And I have a YouTube channel
and an Instagram page and all of that. It's best
just to google my name. It's easier. Terry Harten dot
com is my website. But Patreon is a place that
(20:48):
I've decided as I work towards semi retirement, no artist
ever retires that that's where I'm going to be live.
So if you want to talk to me live, that's
where you're going to be able to do it and
listen at a venue like these sure courses and classes
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, So there's got to be someone listening that. And
I don't just mean that, by the way, Kayla, there's
got to be someone listening. I know there's people that
there's got to I'm sorry, I want to say something.
What there's we know there's people listening. My point being
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that that are looking to get into carving pumpkins, you've
told them what kind of pumpkins they should look into.
What are the tools because it can also be dangerous too,
because the sticky nature of the flesh and a sharp
blade and all of that. So what's the best tools
to carve with?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Well, now, on outrageous pumpkins, the pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
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tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terryharn dot com click on online store, and then you
can say.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, that's cool, so that's what they need.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, I've taken about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting,
they're going to see these tools and go I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is and you know, and they're made by Kemper,
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them
(22:33):
up and so I didn't get to lose I didn't
have to lose those tools. I'm very very fun.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Doesn't that stink?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
When things change or don't change hands and they go
away and nobody picks up the legacy or the molds
or the techniques or those types of things, that's very
frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and once you
find something you love.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And this is a beautiful tool, it's made in the USA.
I've carved with it since it was about twenty fifteen,
twenty years old, so I was devastated when I heard
it might not have. You know, it wasn't gonna go away.
It was gonna go a wait. I think everybody was
buying a big amount of them. And then Sculpture how
stepped in and said we're going to adopt it. So
it's still good. It's still there. You don't have to
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rely on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You can
actually get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're gonna
do right by you. And there really are wonderful for
carving pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to
care about?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Some of my some of my students want to stencil
because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it out
with Kember makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a tiny
tool and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool,
so you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing, and if
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you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that
really and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in More Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Farms under I was just looking it up. I think
it's Underwood.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Farms and we can see these ghosts. They're about the
size of the large medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes
when you take the white off of it, they are
like a casabo mel and they're white or they're peach,
and peach is like winning at the lottery because they're
just beautiful peach color in the daylight. But then when
they're lit, you get all of that as well. But
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the closer you go to the light, the brighter the light.
So you think of a hole in a jack lantern
and then anywhere from the outside where it can be
black to and in between that that strictrum, and you
can really create some wonderful things. And lighting them is
really good because your beginner is going to carve and
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they're going to feel you'll always get one person you're asking,
you know, do you have to kind of coax them along?
And I had one woman she cried the whole time,
and I said to her, I said, you're only an
inch deep, you have three inches to go. Let's fix this.
It's fine, You're just not far enough. And then when
we took it into a booth and we put a
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light in it, she cried because she couldn't believe how
gorgeous it was. So it was just someone who just
had heard that voice that people often say to you,
which is don't quit your day job. What's that supposed
to sure, what makes you think you're an artist? Don't
let someone else tell you what you can do and
how you can do it. And I do the pumpkins
(26:16):
to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're just
listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We'll have one final segments as we usher in Tiffany Hobbs,
who comes up at five o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We'll chat just a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
All things food, beverage and beyond, a lot of beyond
today because when it comes to the holidays, there's lots
of things that I like to talk about, decorating your house,
having fun. I'd like building props. As you know, carving
pumpkins is wonderful. So Derek Young has been sitting in
with us from van Oux Props. You have a hant
(27:00):
list that I wanted you to talk about where people
can see other people that do stuff to their houses
in the life.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Over the last thirteen, I guess fourteen years, I've been
putting together an annual list of all of the free
events that people can go to and check out and
most of them are just normal people who like to
decorate really extremely like myself. And so if you want
to find out about home haunts that are in your area,
(27:29):
you can go to socowhuntlist dot com. It's great for
people who just enjoy seeing Halloween decorations. If you are
one of those people who likes to decorate for Halloween,
you can submit your information and hopefully we get some
more bodies out there to see the hard work that
you've put your time and energy into.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Give the address again.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's so cowhunt list dot com excellent.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And of course Terry Harden Pumpkin Carver, Disney imagineer artist,
extraordinary and just a delightful human. I've loved getting to
know you throughout having you on and we you know,
connect off the air as well through texts and whatnot.
Let everybody know where they can find out more about
you again.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
First place you can go to Terryharden dot com. That's
going to take you to my Instagram, my YouTube, but
YouTube is it's Terry. You can do Terry Harden slash.
It's Terry. I do my best to do a broadcast
every Monday and just talk about the upcoming news, like
the figure from of Walt Disney was one of the
(28:35):
later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
Then then there's the Instagra, you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terryharten dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, it's it's very lovely that you keep yourself so
accessible to other creatives and people.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
That want to learn. Thanks for taking time. Come on,
it's nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Thank you for asking me. Thank you for of course
you're a perennial a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have two things already on my in my car,
so when I use his car, I don't have to
search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We like to hear.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And what you'll be listening to on your way home
is this next lady, Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
How are you well?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
You have two so cow legends in here, Terry. I'm
I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck. Following Neil because
he has the best guests. But no one has ever
come in here with that jacket that you have here,
Terry with the soles on it. You can leave that
behind you as a partying gift for your love for
(29:54):
the station.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Or design myself.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Please, that is indible. Oh my god, but I'm well,
how are you, Neil?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Hello, that's all right, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Hi show.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, No, this is leading into your show. This is
where we do the handshake.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yes, and you grab the baton on and hopefully not
drop it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, I never do. I enjoy your show.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I told you when I saw you today that
I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You did.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
and thought. It's very easy to beat the ejaculatory and.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
On the station. And I like thinkers.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I like to think. And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you. I put
the socowhunt list dot Com into my phone because I
love a good haunt, So I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I love it. I love I love making leave.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And the more real you can make it, the more
I suspend disbelief, the better.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So what's going on tonight on the Tiffany n Speaking
of real things?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
We have quite a few updates about some huge stories
in the news and deep dive at six o'clock speaking
of haunts and speaking of real and speaking of not
real big show.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
Like that now that guy, everybody else is talking weird
with all these full sentences and syntax and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Weird.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, And now it's here.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Seriously, or as the kids would say, before gta us six.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay, yeah, there you go. Always good to see you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I will be listening and have a wonderful show thanks
to my wonderful guest. Would be Halloween, and we will
catch you again next week. Have empathy, be kind to
each other. It's free. This is KFI and KOSTHD two
Los Angeles, Orange County. You've been listening to The Fork Report.
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
(32:14):
forty two to five pm on Saturday, and anytime on
demand on the iHeartRadio app
Hey, it's Neil Savedra.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You're listening to KFI EM six forty the four Purport
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Let me diad you had it? Let me teach you
had it? Condam merrit Nathan, Let me teach you at it.
It's it's a columnaratione name. Let me teach you at it.
Let me die.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
Happy Saturday to you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You're listening to KFI of course, and this is the
four Report. I'm your well fed host, Neil Savandra.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
How do you do? Holding in my hand?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
A book by my next guest, very talented artist Pumpkin
Carver and uh a former imagineer with Disney.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Which is an imagineer with Disney.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I can wondered that. Do you do you ever leave?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Or is it like once you have like Seal Team
six or something, Once you have those abilities, they call
you back for projects.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Once an imagineer, always an imagine well, of course, but yes,
because I was very fast at what I did, they
would bring me back. And at one point they asked
me to come back and I said I wasn't able to.
I'll keep the reason why later, but I was unable to.
And so when I came, I said, how can I
be of service? And they said, well, we'll bring in
(01:47):
as a contractor and that allows me to do what
I do on the outside over here, and then once
they need me, they just reach out and say, hey,
are you free, and I say yes or no. I
call it the cat bird seat.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, yeah, that's a great and of course that is
the voice of Terry Harden, who is we had her
on last year around this time to talk about pumpkin
carving and the like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But you know, I've asked my friend Derek to Derek
Young to stay because he's also a fan of Disney
and the like and to be able to sit and
hang out with you as a real treat as well.
So when it comes to Disney, you said that you
were faster what you do. Every imagineer, I imagine has to
be sort of a universalist in the sense that you
(02:32):
have a bunch of skills. But you're known for one.
What what's the skill that they lean on you for.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally, and a
sculptor of hard foam, and that means the floral foam
that you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I
know you know this, there's different grades. He knows that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He's like, okay, the two.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Four pone man. The white foam is the six pound
foam and each one is for carving. And one of
the things that many companies realize because I had been
doing it for the film industry for so long, and
they'd bring in the green foam. And when you carve
the green foam, it creates static, which means it gets
all over you sure, which means you try to spray
yourself off, and then you go home and someone who's
(03:22):
unsuspecting and loves you and cares about you gets it
in their eye. It's like glass. So I would come
in and say, if you are willing to invest in
the gold, the gold falls to the ground. And Disney said,
this is fantastic. We don't need to wear suits, we
don't have to try and spray off all we all
we have to do is carve it. So that's how
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a lot of the gold foam came in.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's that's an expertise you That only comes from
getting that crap in your eye. I mean really, it's
only once you use any material and you start learning
its limitations and your limitations with it, is when you
become an expert. So what was do you remember the
very first thing you ever carved out of foam?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my Dragon's layer. So
underneath a castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(04:24):
are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Aren't we Disney? Don't we animate stuff? Why is it stone?
And I had to go to battle to fight for
it to be animated, and Tony Baxter, who was in charge,
the person I stood before, said okay, we'll do it,
but you got to design the attraction. And I remember
in my heart, I went, oh oh, but I just
leat through the door. I tell everybody go through that door,
(04:48):
worry about how to do it later, right, I would
have been That's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Just got through the door.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I got this, you know, because you can't know if
it's always if you're always going to be breaking new
ground in some form, and with a company like this
you have to.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Then you can't be sure of anything but yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And I had never done an attraction before, but I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
It's not, but I will say, as someone who just
recently visited a couple of years ago, it's absolutely fantastic
and probably my favorite thing in the entire park all that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So I'm so.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Glad that you got to see it, because it breaks
my heart when people say, oh, I went to Paris,
and I say, do you see my did you see
my dragon? And they said there's a dragon in Paris?
And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do you do slap them hard?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh? Oh? No?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
You got to go back to Paris now and see
the dragon And they're like, what do you mean? I mean,
you know, because people save up to go to these places,
you want to make sure they that they see.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So were you carving mcquets? Are you doing it to scale?
Are you creating that in full?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We were carving models. I was first hired in nineteen
eighty seven, and it took them three months to decide
that I was someone that they wanted to have there.
Once I went there, they put me in what was
called the rock work division and we started carving Big
Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that, the person
(06:22):
I was working with was not the easiest to get
along with, but they said, we think you're gregarious enough
you can do it. And I think the way we
ended up working together was I told him, you know,
we're equal level, and so if he doesn't want to
see me climb all over him when people of higher
authority want to hear about the attraction, then he needs enter.
(06:44):
He needs to include me. He was just a few
days before me, and he said okay, And then afterwards
he really liked me and wanted me to do the
area where the queue and I said no, I'm I'm
going to fight for Dragon's lair because I had seen
it and said, I paid my pen. Now I want
good for you. I want to do and I asked
for dragons learn and fought for it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone though, I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures went rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring? And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they're, well, no, but it's it can't be like
carving a face or carving. But what I realized was
when you're sculpting, most of the time you go from
(07:38):
A to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop
somewhere on your way to Z because that's where you
see God is God moments.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So, because if you take it to the one hundred percent,
it looks fake and you can't do horsehead rock, you
can't do papoose rock because it looks fake. And that's
when you realize that you're going to have to back
off of that because you're not God. And I thought
that was really liberating, you know, learning to carve to
a certain point and then that's what kept it real.
(08:11):
But if you went too far, it was like, uh ah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You get into that territory where your humanity is seen
more clearly and you start going that looks like the
set of Star Trek.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You're having a business complex, are you?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Never me?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, it's the Fork or Fort Nil Savadre. As
we celebrate Halloween this month. Of course, we've got Terry
Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress, but also a book.
This book I'm holding my hands giggling pumpkin pumpkin that
you were kind enough to bring to me for my boy.
(08:48):
And it's got some art in here by you as well,
Disney Imagineer at all all that wonderful stuff. And we'll
come back and talk about pumpkins and some more. So
go know where you're.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
(09:30):
and what a treat to have.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Terry back to the show.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
She's a Disney imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't you.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yes, I do. And this has been a tumultuous month
because people started wanting to book classes and then they
would say, I'd say, I like to provide the pumpkins
so that everybody has an equal chance of carving them.
A lot of people will go to a market and
carve a pumpkin. If you're a first timer, those market
pumpkins can be the devil and you would be trying
(10:10):
to carve it and you'd feel like if you've done it,
if it's your first time, you feel it's you because
that's what first timers do. I can't carve this pumpkin
the way I've seen Terry do it. Why am I
having so much trouble? And if I'm there with you,
I can say because that pumpkin is terrible. And what
you need to do is go to a pumpkin patch
(10:32):
and find a couple of pumpkins that are really, very
very good for carving the dimensional carvings that you see
on Outrageous Pumpkins, which is the show that I'm the
judge on.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So do you if you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, I want to say that it's.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get you another one.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons everything.
How do you How do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner, and I don't like that,
(11:34):
so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victorian. She has a lot of followers, and she
reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass and
we're doing it next weekend on the twelfth. She said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:55):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to add to your question, the easiest
is a white ghost, but not the kind you see
at Walmart. The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge,
and the problem is that it's more closer to a
gored than it is a pumpkin. You want that super
smooth white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that
(12:18):
has that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get
what's called a wolf wolf. It has what appears to
have a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio
from pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes
up two thirds of the little bitty bunkin underneath, or
the size of the pumpkin. If it's a basketball, it
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has like a three inch or a two and a
half inch them that looks like a tree trunk. So
you know that that's a wolf. And that's the easiest
way to identify it. Go to a patch and if
you don't know, ask, But these classic jack lantern ones
are completely designed and created for jack landers for carving
a hole and putting a light inside. This technique that
(13:01):
I teach and many have seen is to carve like
the show and do faces and monsters and all kinds skulls.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
The flesh, the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
(13:32):
do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're going
to get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to
think it's awful. You hit something and then all of
a sudden, it's like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back up to me, Well, you're
still living with his wife because there are only happy actions.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Because okay, he did that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
My dad, God rest his soul, was an artist too.
He said, use your mistakes. Until I got into tattooing,
I'm like, it's not as easy. The whole key is
not to have them in this case. And do you
let the I don't know, not to get sappy, but
do you let the pumpkin shape speak to you as
(14:30):
far as how you're going to what you're gonna put
on it? Or do you go in with, you know,
looking for a pumpkin that fits something that's in your
head already.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:59):
They've seen pumpkins that on the internet. They want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm gonna catch it from
some of my outrageous Pumpkins contestants, because they do one
thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem with
(15:20):
that is a beginner we'll look over at the person
next to them and go, oh, it's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't go
they won't go any further. So I can't have that
in my class, with everyone doing something different that they're
passionate about. Yes, it's hard to work for me as
a teacher. I'm leaping around with a leprechat, but there's
so much when they're done, and they never look at
(15:43):
someone else and say that person is doing better than me,
because they're all different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I love that, and that's a that's a superior teaching
method and it's a pain in the ass. Like what
you said, I but it is because of the fact that,
like our school system that tries to fit everybody into
one mold, you teach people on the level and the
desire and the passion of the individual. We'll talk more.
(16:08):
Can you stick around here. Let's talk all right with
Terry Harden. She is a Disney imagineer. She is a
pumpkin carver. She is a delight and an artist and
a kindred spirit. And we'll talk more about pumpkin carving
when we return on the forker Port.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
You're listening to the fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff.
So it just is I love this time of year,
and so we're making sure each shows chalk filled with
(16:51):
holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins, and obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
(17:12):
pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
uh you know, methods, but I never thought that there's
a species or a type of pumpkin that I should
be looking for, even though I've carved a gorge and
(17:34):
you know, or you know having this, you know a
squash which is the same family and everything, and the
flesh is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so the wolf with.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The wolf with the big step.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Easy ones, but like on the Show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big Mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds. But that's lovely about these, and
I try to get them for beginners. Is the wall
(18:12):
is about four inches thick. When you take the covering off,
you have four inches of depth to play with. And
this was usually the pumpkins I would carve for shows
like True Blood or Desperate Housewives or many of them.
Many people would have me carve them for parties and stuff,
and I would always say, you know, I can carve
(18:33):
it for you, but take my video and take my
tools and I'll teach you how to do it. And
the class is only like a hundred bucks instead of
five or six to have.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Me do it.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You know. So it's and my Patreon page, which is
something that is just great because people it's the one
place they can find me live and live. We do
a call each week on my Patreon page, and this
is something that they all love to do. So we
tried to get together and do it. This year's been
(19:07):
a little bit crazier than usual because we lost the
location that we were going to do it at, but
I said, you know, so now we've relocated to a
place in Seemi Valley and we're going to do it
on Wednesday, the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and
I will provide the pumpkin and they will be a
smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wow. I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
God bless Patreon. I'm going to tell you something about artistry.
This could be actors, singers, performers, artists. So there was
always a gatekeeper, so someone made money off of the
artistry for you to do what you do. Patreon moves
(19:48):
out out of the way and allows those of us
that love what artists do to directly pay to them.
Of course, Patreon takes its portion or what have you,
but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh, you can
only do your art if you do it through our
system and we get the cut. Whether it's you know,
recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever. That
(20:13):
owning your own craft is important and it's one of
the reasons why I do what I can to support
artists that I enjoy because you know, so I love
that you're on Patreon as well, and even well, you.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Can still do well on it because people find you
and they say, you know, I want to support what
you're doing. I want to support the support your giving
and stuff like that. And I have a YouTube channel
and an Instagram page and all of that. It's best
just to google my name. It's easier. Terry Harten dot
com is my website. But Patreon is a place that
(20:48):
I've decided as I work towards semi retirement, no artist
ever retires that that's where I'm going to be live.
So if you want to talk to me live, that's
where you're going to be able to do it and
listen at a venue like these sure courses and classes
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, So there's got to be someone listening that. And
I don't just mean that, by the way, Kayla, there's
got to be someone listening. I know there's people that
there's got to I'm sorry, I want to say something.
What there's we know there's people listening. My point being
(21:24):
that that are looking to get into carving pumpkins, you've
told them what kind of pumpkins they should look into.
What are the tools because it can also be dangerous too,
because the sticky nature of the flesh and a sharp
blade and all of that. So what's the best tools
to carve with?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Well, now, on outrageous pumpkins, the pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
(22:02):
tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terryharn dot com click on online store, and then you
can say.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, that's cool, so that's what they need.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, I've taken about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting,
they're going to see these tools and go I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is and you know, and they're made by Kemper,
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them
(22:33):
up and so I didn't get to lose I didn't
have to lose those tools. I'm very very fun.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Doesn't that stink?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
When things change or don't change hands and they go
away and nobody picks up the legacy or the molds
or the techniques or those types of things, that's very
frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and once you
find something you love.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And this is a beautiful tool, it's made in the USA.
I've carved with it since it was about twenty fifteen,
twenty years old, so I was devastated when I heard
it might not have. You know, it wasn't gonna go away.
It was gonna go a wait. I think everybody was
buying a big amount of them. And then Sculpture how
stepped in and said we're going to adopt it. So
it's still good. It's still there. You don't have to
(23:16):
rely on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You can
actually get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're gonna
do right by you. And there really are wonderful for
carving pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to
care about?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Some of my some of my students want to stencil
because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it out
with Kember makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a tiny
tool and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool,
so you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing, and if
(23:58):
you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that
really and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in More Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Farms under I was just looking it up. I think
it's Underwood.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Farms and we can see these ghosts. They're about the
size of the large medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes
when you take the white off of it, they are
like a casabo mel and they're white or they're peach,
and peach is like winning at the lottery because they're
just beautiful peach color in the daylight. But then when
they're lit, you get all of that as well. But
(25:13):
the closer you go to the light, the brighter the light.
So you think of a hole in a jack lantern
and then anywhere from the outside where it can be
black to and in between that that strictrum, and you
can really create some wonderful things. And lighting them is
really good because your beginner is going to carve and
(25:34):
they're going to feel you'll always get one person you're asking,
you know, do you have to kind of coax them along?
And I had one woman she cried the whole time,
and I said to her, I said, you're only an
inch deep, you have three inches to go. Let's fix this.
It's fine, You're just not far enough. And then when
we took it into a booth and we put a
(25:55):
light in it, she cried because she couldn't believe how
gorgeous it was. So it was just someone who just
had heard that voice that people often say to you,
which is don't quit your day job. What's that supposed
to sure, what makes you think you're an artist? Don't
let someone else tell you what you can do and
how you can do it. And I do the pumpkins
(26:16):
to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're just
listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We'll have one final segments as we usher in Tiffany Hobbs,
who comes up at five o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We'll chat just a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
All things food, beverage and beyond, a lot of beyond
today because when it comes to the holidays, there's lots
of things that I like to talk about, decorating your house,
having fun. I'd like building props. As you know, carving
pumpkins is wonderful. So Derek Young has been sitting in
with us from van Oux Props. You have a hant
(27:00):
list that I wanted you to talk about where people
can see other people that do stuff to their houses
in the life.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Over the last thirteen, I guess fourteen years, I've been
putting together an annual list of all of the free
events that people can go to and check out and
most of them are just normal people who like to
decorate really extremely like myself. And so if you want
to find out about home haunts that are in your area,
(27:29):
you can go to socowhuntlist dot com. It's great for
people who just enjoy seeing Halloween decorations. If you are
one of those people who likes to decorate for Halloween,
you can submit your information and hopefully we get some
more bodies out there to see the hard work that
you've put your time and energy into.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Give the address again.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's so cowhunt list dot com excellent.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And of course Terry Harden Pumpkin Carver, Disney imagineer artist,
extraordinary and just a delightful human. I've loved getting to
know you throughout having you on and we you know,
connect off the air as well through texts and whatnot.
Let everybody know where they can find out more about
you again.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
First place you can go to Terryharden dot com. That's
going to take you to my Instagram, my YouTube, but
YouTube is it's Terry. You can do Terry Harden slash.
It's Terry. I do my best to do a broadcast
every Monday and just talk about the upcoming news, like
the figure from of Walt Disney was one of the
(28:35):
later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
Then then there's the Instagra, you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terryharten dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, it's it's very lovely that you keep yourself so
accessible to other creatives and people.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
That want to learn. Thanks for taking time. Come on,
it's nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Thank you for asking me. Thank you for of course
you're a perennial a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have two things already on my in my car,
so when I use his car, I don't have to
search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We like to hear.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And what you'll be listening to on your way home
is this next lady, Tiffany Hobbs.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
How are you well?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
You have two so cow legends in here, Terry. I'm
I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck. Following Neil because
he has the best guests. But no one has ever
come in here with that jacket that you have here,
Terry with the soles on it. You can leave that
behind you as a partying gift for your love for
(29:54):
the station.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Or design myself.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Please, that is indible. Oh my god, but I'm well,
how are you, Neil?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Hello, that's all right, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Hi show.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, No, this is leading into your show. This is
where we do the handshake.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yes, and you grab the baton on and hopefully not
drop it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, I never do. I enjoy your show.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I told you when I saw you today that
I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You did.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
and thought. It's very easy to beat the ejaculatory and.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
On the station. And I like thinkers.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I like to think. And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you. I put
the socowhunt list dot Com into my phone because I
love a good haunt, So I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I love it. I love I love making leave.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And the more real you can make it, the more
I suspend disbelief, the better.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So what's going on tonight on the Tiffany n Speaking
of real things?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
We have quite a few updates about some huge stories
in the news and deep dive at six o'clock speaking
of haunts and speaking of real and speaking of not
real big show.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
Like that now that guy, everybody else is talking weird
with all these full sentences and syntax and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Weird.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, And now it's here.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Seriously, or as the kids would say, before gta us six.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay, yeah, there you go. Always good to see you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I will be listening and have a wonderful show thanks
to my wonderful guest. Would be Halloween, and we will
catch you again next week. Have empathy, be kind to
each other. It's free. This is KFI and KOSTHD two
Los Angeles, Orange County. You've been listening to The Fork Report.
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
(32:14):
forty two to five pm on Saturday, and anytime on
demand on the iHeartRadio app
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