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June 6, 2024 29 mins
RETAIL THEFT_Security at TJ Maxx, Marshalls now sporting body-worn cameras // Boeing Starliner’s crew is now on the space station after encountering new issues en route // Kelly Au’Coin plays Andy Roeser in CLIPPED trailer ((AUDIO)) // Pat Sajak ending long stint as Wheel of Fortune host
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It's CAMF I am sixty and you'relistening to the Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. Conway Away arare day off for tim Mark Thompson sitting
in with the crew. It's alwaysfun when you get to drive the car
the way it was designed, youknow. Sometimes you come in and they're

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people filling in as I am,you know, and actually some of them
can be very good. I can'tthink even off hand of any weak links
particularly, But it's also fun todrive the car gassed up, ready to
go, with the seats it wasdesigned to have for you to sit in,

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and that's what we have today.So we're at full strength and we've
got quite the show. In fact, bottom of the hour, I mentioned
that show clipped on Hulu. It'sall about the meltdown around the La Clippers
and Donald Sterling, and they hityou right away with every thing, all
the controversy, all the weirdness,all of these salaciousness right away in episode

(01:04):
one. And then I'm told andagain they've only dropped the first couple of
episodes that later in the series theyflash back to some stuff. I kind
of like that. You get dumpedright into the water in the first episode.
So Kelly o'coin who plays the presidentof baseball operations for the Clippers,

(01:26):
and it's a role that has alot of humor in it in a show
that's not a comedy per se.But he will be here. You know
him maybe from playing dollar Bill inthe show Billions on Showtime, and he
was also in the Holdovers. SoKelly's a great actor and he will join

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us just after the bottom of thehour. It is D Day eighty years
ago. Tens of thousands of theAmerican, British and Canadian soldiers saving the
world from the Nazis. Only ahandful are left, most more than one

(02:13):
hundred years old, of course,and this is the anniversary of the Allied
invasion of Europe. There was awild story on this eightieth anniversary of D
Day. Wild sad really. Oneof the veterans, a one hundred two
year old World War Two vet fromNew York, was traveling to a D

(02:34):
Day ceremony in France and passed awayon his way there, and particularly sad.
But we'll be checking off with somany of the observances and the special
arrangements and ways that the world ismemorializing d Day across Europe and here in

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North of as well here on theConway Show. As we continue, So
something that's been an issue, andthere's been plenty of viral video on this
stuff, is retail theft. It'sbeen an issue not only in the bizarre
way that it seems to have takenoff, but it's been an issue in

(03:21):
that many of the institutions and businessesthat sell stuff are now facing real hits
to their bottom line because there's somuch in the way of shoplifting. So
listen to what they're doing. Hourly, retail security workers are now wearing police

(03:44):
like body cameras at major stores likeTjmax, Marshalls and Home Goods are the
latest to this party. They areequipping some store employees with body cameras.
This is to reduce shoplifting and tokeep customers and employees safe. They say
they're finance chief again, the financechief for the giant that owns Tjmax,

(04:09):
Marshalls and homegous it's called TJX.This guy, John Klinger, says this
is a de escalation where people areless likely to do something when they're being
videoed, and in a survey ofmajor chains thirty five percent of US retailers

(04:29):
say that they're researching body cameras forthe employees. And there are a bunch
of different companies now that are gettinginto the business of what body cameras.
It used to be kind of aspecialized business, but now they're more and
more to the party. There's alot of merchandise loss. You talk about

(04:51):
also the danger to those who stillshop brick and mortar. I mean,
we're all still out there on somelevel. I understand that the world of
the Internet has sort of brought thebrick and mortar world to us wherever we
are. But the reality is thatthere's a certain pleasure that people get in
actually trying stuff on, going tothese different places. It's an outing as

(05:14):
well. But if you have toworry about your own personal safety, I
mean that's a serious issue. Sooutfitting workers with body cameras may not do
much. If you talk to criminologists, they say it may have a negligible
effect. But if you train andstaff with people who handle these different situations,

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well, it will they say,reduce shoplifting, and it said add
a level of protection to those whoare just doing shopping. So look,
you never know how much of anythingis just for show and how much of
it really makes a difference, butsomething has to get done. It does

(06:00):
feel as though retail theft is somethingthat is happening on a level we just
didn't see, but it's so brazennow and people just you know, go
in. You've seen the shots fromSan Francisco and from other retail establishments.
We have it here with these gangsof kids, really everybody's usually under thirty,

(06:24):
and they go in and they'll attacka retail store, meaning they go
in, they grab stuff, andthey run out. Increasingly, if you
knew and this is something that's happeningnow that video was recording that act,
you might think twice before you didit, because they are arresting people based

(06:44):
on video. There's absolutely an effortnow to round up a lot of these
gangs associated with retail theft. Soagain, it's pretty big when you have
retailer like Marshall's TJ Max Home Goodsall getting in on this and they are

(07:05):
announcing, given the fact that they'retaking a hit to their bottom line on
a pretty significant level, that theyare now going to be doing that hourly.
Security workers at those places where we'llbe outfitted with police like body cameras
at all those major stores. Whenwe come back. There is a new

(07:29):
twist in the case of the zoomvideo driver who pleaded, well, he
pleaded what he zoomed in? Hewasn't supposed to be driving, isn't this
the guy right? Indeed? Andhe's driving when he's actually supposedly on a

(07:51):
suspended license, and he's trying toget his license reinstated, and of course
it's so comical that it goes viral. Well, apparently there is another to
this. There's another detail, andthere are other ripple effects from that which
we most of us saw, andwe'll get into that next. You're listening

(08:13):
to Tim Conway Junior on demand fromKFI AM six forty. Did you guys,
anybody watched that the Starliner take off? And that didn't really catch a
catch attention? Here, it's kindof a big deal. They tried to
launch this thing a couple of timesand didn't end up going and then finally

(08:35):
they had a successful launch, righttook them long enough? Yeah? Years
literally, And which is I'm soglad you said that, because I thought
we had this down. I thoughtthis was done in the sixties, wasn't
it. I mean when did whendo we walk on the moon? Conley
would tell you, of course that, well, we didn't really walk on
the moon. It was when didthe moon huax? I meant did that

(09:00):
go down? That was in thesixties, wasn't it moonlanding sixty nine?
You? Yeah, So I thoughtwe had perfected is the point as a
country I'm talking about. We hadmarshaled existing technology, which of course is
surpassed by all technology we have.Now we had marshaled that technology, and
we had created these systems by whichwe could launch people into space, I

(09:22):
mean, including sending men to theMoon. Then we got into the space
shuttle world, which is sort ofa utilitarian view of space, like we're
going to send this thing up,We're going to build stuff up there.
We're going to have satellites, wehave communication satellites, defense satellites. We're
going to kind of do stuff inspace that involves things that are not associated

(09:50):
with space exploration. We'll just putit that way. So we had the
Space Shuttle, and you can seethat amazing shuttle craft down at the Science
Center. But I mean, it'simmense. Doesn't even begin to describe how
much bigger it is in person,then you imagine it, or then you

(10:11):
imagine it because you see it depictedin photos and television, etc. But
the point is we got out ofthe you know, that big rocket into
space thing. But I would havethought we retained the knowledge that we had
in the sixties and early seventies asto how to launch those things. But
we scrapped the Space Shuttle program,and all of a sudden we were in

(10:35):
the situation where we're contracting with ElonMusk and others who have developed their own
space programs. I'm talking about billionairesbezos among them as well, and we're
having to put our communication satellites.I'm talking about as US citizens, you
and I pay for these communication satellites, defense satellites, these various payloads,

(10:58):
even stuff that was going up tothe International Space Station, we're putting it
on these commercial rocket launches, theones done by as I've just said,
these billionaires. So okay, Imean, we weren't in on those meetings,
but I assumed that was the moststrategic way to do it, maybe
the cost effective way to do it. Now, as Krozier has just kind

(11:20):
of said, we're sweating getting theselaunches back to where NASA is involved in
a vehicle built by Boeing, Andwe had two false starts. Then the
thing actually did take off. Ittook four years after SpaceX, the other
company that NASA has hired, asI said, to give astronauts rides,

(11:46):
four years and a few days afterits first mission with astronauts to the International
Space Station. So Boeing wants toprovide this service, but they've had huge
delays. They even had a heliumleak on this one. I mean,
these guys who actually ride in thesestar liners, they've got some guts,

(12:09):
you know. Would you like togo up and going? Hey, by
the way, we've got a heliumleak. Don't sweat it. I'm sure
it's going to be fine, youknow, guys. Maybe wait, I'll
wait for the next one when we'vegot the We got the leak sealed up.
Anyway, the star Liner arrived atthe space station right and the SpaceX

(12:31):
crew already docked there. And theywant to have two spacecrafts, two different
American spacecrafts, NASA says, capableof taking astronauts up into orbit. Which
makes sense, right, You've gotto have a backup, So This is

(12:52):
fascinating though to me, as Isay, how we kind of lost the
muscle that was associated with launching astronautsinto space. We seem to try now
to I don't know, find thatmuscle again, but it may be quite
a ride, because, as we'vesaid, Boeing has had some setbacks along

(13:13):
the way. But everybody at NASAvery excited. I'm sure they're excited at
Boeing. It's about time they geta decent headline. And it's uh,
I think this is a six monthstay for one of the crews, isn't
it up there at the at thespace station. I thought the ones that
just went up there coming back inlike three or four days. Oh is

(13:35):
that right? Okay, it'll justseem like six months. Yeah. Well,
there might be a crew that's upthere that'll be there that long.
God, well, that would justbe There was a problem I think with
the bathroom system on board. Youknow, they recycle all of the urine
and they I know, it seemsweird, but it's true, and you

(13:56):
can check this, but I'm fairlycertain that one of the fixes that they
were going for on the space stationwas that that the restroom system, you
know, was not working the wayit's supposed to, the recycling, and
so they have all these bags ofurine up there, and I know you're

(14:18):
probably saying, why not just throwthem out the into you know, the
great void that is space, ButI think they were trying to be responsible
about it. They are staying upthere, by the way, the two
astaurants they just went up there,staying up there for eight days, okay,
eight days. Do you see anythingon the on the urine situation up
there at Krozier. Let's see andwe can, well, we have our

(14:39):
best people on this urine thing.But i'd heard that the space station urine
situation was one of the things.I don't mean to say that this launch
is all about that there's a urinepump problem. Yeah, thank you.
It's a urine pump problem. Andthe headline that I'm seeing from space dot
Com says Boeing's Starliner astronaut launch willflush it out. Oh okay, very

(15:03):
well done. Thanks. They recycleninety eight percent of all the astronaut pee
and sweat on the International Space Station. So there's already a little fact you've
picked up on this show that youprobably weren't aware of. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFIAM six forty. My new guilty pleasure

(15:28):
and favorite show is Clipped. It'son Hulu and it's the story of the
meltdown that Donald Sterling and the Clippershad around his indiscretions and his racially charged
remarks that forced the sale of theClippers. And it involves so many people

(15:56):
that you know that is to sayyou've seen them in the headlines. You've
everyone from Doc Rivers to you knowwho was coaching the Clippers at the time,
to Donald Stirling and his wife andthe girlfriend v remembers she wore that
what was that thing? That likethat rainbow reflector that bidser thing. I

(16:18):
mean, it's populated with all ofthese characters and eccentricities that these characters have.
It's really great. So anyway,that's now a dramatized series on Hulu
and it's awesome. And from thatseries, we'll have one of the stars
who actually plays the chief executive ofthe Clippers, a president of the Clippers.

(16:44):
He'll join us in a moment,but first, here is the trailer
for the new Hulu show Clipped.I don't know if you saw about the
tape, things are teasing on theverge of catastrophe. Are you tricking into
saying terrible things? It's my world. You really need to put out a
statement. I have a media strategy. You We've a mess everywhere. People

(17:07):
aren't like it's wrong to want fI want the heat off the place.
The kn't out him making this manmoney? What's your relationship with Donald?
I'm as silly rabbit. What yourword? Sports? Racism? Money?
There is something in it for everyone. I have hundreds of teens. I
am banning mister Sterling or lighting.If you come here, I will physically

(17:30):
fight me. That's a little extreme. You have to vargue with the devil
if you want to get a hessstart. I'm the Lord Almighty as far
as you're concerned. He plays theformer president of the Clippers and the right

(17:53):
hand man to Donald Sterling in thenew Hulu Sherries Clipped. He's Kelly A
Coin. What's up, Kelly?How are you look at you? You're
on a hit show? Your brother? Yeah good, I'm you know.
I'm a fan personally of Kelly o'coin. But your work in the Holdovers,

(18:15):
I mean that was a huge moviebillions. You created this character that is
so memorable, dollar Bill. Andhere dollar Bill was kind of this tough
talking you know, well, whatwould I super agro guy? And yeah,
and and Andy Roser is the washe the president of the Clippers organization?

(18:38):
Just the opposite, It would seemhe's kind of like a raw rod
Donald Sterling right hand man guy.Yeah, there feels like, you know,
at least in our interpretation, he'svery much a go along to get
along guy. He he his modusoperandi is to make everything small for Donald

(19:00):
and to get his h to gethis approval that he that he's you know,
feeling validated by by getting his approval, which he never gets. So
he's long suffering, but he smilesthrough it all. It's very much a
yes, I will eat your crapand can I have another scoop? It
does make for It makes for somelike lighter moments, It really does.

(19:22):
You know, you're in a wayyour character is and it's a real character.
You know, it wasn't concocted,but it does make for some comic
relief moments. Yeah. I thinkone of the things people say when they
want when they've seen all the episodesis I really didn't expect it to be
that funny. It's a very funnyshow does not shy away from the dark
stuff. I think you and Iwere talking about this maybe at some point

(19:47):
that it's a that it's a historicaldramedy's and there you know, there there's
it is meticulously researched. They do. You know, they had even Doc
Rivers was a consultant on it.They had I can't remember exactly who,
maybe JJ Reddick, somebody else wasone of the other players. And but

(20:08):
there's some stuff that happens behind thescenes that you make educated guesses about or
you have secondhand knowledge about because somebodywas in the room. But yeah,
it was, it was. Itwas really really fun to shoot, which
was surprising for some people, given, as I say, some of the
dark crap. Yeah, I meanthe recordings I remember hearing we played many

(20:32):
of them right here on this radiostation KFI, and there was uh really
oh yeah, I mean it waswell, it was a titanic thing that
went on here in Los Angeles.But uh, what's interesting is the crew
that you're working with too. Imean that you know, got Ed O'Neil
is playing Donald Sterling. Laurence Fishburnplays Doc Rivers and it has his voice,
you know, that raspe kind ofso good. Yeah, yeah,

(20:56):
yeah, it's so good. Andworking with those guys. So I mainly
worked with Ed and then second mostwith Lawrence, and you know, you
can't ask for two better scene partnersthan that, and a couple of great
scenes with Jackie as well. ButLawrence has been an acting idle of mine
for a long time, so thatwas that was sort of a dream come

(21:17):
true. And Ed I've always lovedit. I keep saying this to people,
so everybody knows edwi Neil was greatand he's got a star on the
Hollywood Walk of Fame. People lovehim. He's a great storyteller, wonderful
actor. But at a certain point, I think people aren't aware, fully
aware of how completely wonderful he is. He's doing great character work. And
he said this in interviews, likeyou know, sometimes you do a show

(21:40):
that's you give like seventy percent ofwhat you know it requires like seventy percent
of your skills, even if you'reit's not like he's shirking, but you
know what I mean, And hesaid he had some trepidation about accepting this
role because it was like, ohman, I'm gonna have to give a
hundred percentisfied Yeah, and he's transforminghim. It's really it's great character work.

(22:02):
So yeah, it was a blastworking with his cast. Yeah,
I want can you still a commercialbreak with us and just continue because I'm
kind of curious also about what thereaction has been and and how this all
happened. But I do think thatplaying in that band with Ed O'Neil and
Lawrence Fishburn. By the way,you don't call Laurence Fishman Larry Fishburn.

(22:22):
Anybody call him Larry. I've calledhim Lawrence every time I spoke them.
Sometimes I want to say mister Fishburn, but trying not to be weird.
So Laurence, yeah, but definitelynot Larry. He's not a Larry.
I don't find him Larry, Yeah, exactly. Kelly o'coin is whether it's
from the new Hulu show Clipped.You're listening to Tim Conwayton, you're on
demand from kf I am six forty. We're talking to Kelly o'coin from the

(22:47):
new hit series called Clipped. It'son Hulu and it's about the meltdown around
Donald Sterling and the Clippers. Itwas a decade ago and it rocked the
entire sports world. The Clippers.It was a weird time. Kelly o'coin,
Kelly plays in this show clip thepresident of the Clippers basketball operations.

(23:11):
And you're playing in such a greatband. We were saying before the commercial
break, I mean, you knowjust what a cast and you depict all
of you a real time as yousay, You've tried to be really true
to the specifics of that time.It was a weird time in the Clippers
history. This is a team theownership was never embraced. I mean he

(23:34):
was always Donald Sterling viewed as,you know, a problem owner. To
be polite about it, but theClippers actually were rallying during that time.
Weren't they behind Doc Rivers? Yeah, no, they were a legitimate championship
contender. It was a great teamthey got, like JJ Reddick was kind
of the final piece that Sharpshire theyneeded. But DeAndre Jordan was defensive player

(23:57):
of the year, I think ChrisPaul Blake Griffin. It was a great,
great team. And so yeah,and the show does sort of delve
into this this quandary that the playershad themselves. It's like white what,
you know, the pressure to makea grand statement as well as the pressure

(24:18):
to win a championship, and it'slike, why do we have to so
when it's funny because the fans ofthe Clippers were kind of in that same
dilemma. You know. On theone hand, here is this team that
you know, forever basement dwellers.They finally had a chance. They had
all of those great pieces that you'vejust talked about coming together, and then

(24:41):
the owner is caught on tape sayingthese vile things, you know, and
it underscores what a lot of fansalready knew. And it was a weird
thing. But ultimately I felt likethe Clippers, you know, Clippers Nation
or the fans did rally around theplayers. I think so. And I

(25:04):
wasn't in Los Angeles, Los Angelesat the time, so you know,
I was hearing it from Afar.I know it was a much bigger as
big as story as it was aroundthe country and the world, probably it
was much bigger here in Los Angeles. But yeah, I think I think
players there was a lot of sympathyfor what they were going through. And

(25:25):
I'm assuming Doc Rivers too well.Also, I would say, Kelly,
it's interesting the the the moment intime that we're talking about. As I
say, the Clippers were always youknow, the back of the stage,
and the Lakers were always center stageup front. But at this moment in
time, Lakers were bad and Clipperswere really good. As you say,

(25:47):
contenders, this is the time atwhich all this stuff that's in clipped is
going down. Yeah, it waslike everything flipped. It was like backwards
day. Yeah, exactly, Clippersare good. What and Doc got him
to I remember one of the notoriousthings was that he couldn't not He wouldn't

(26:07):
open the first you know, hewouldn't pay the players, he wouldn't keep
players. It was a big thingabout Elton Brand back when he was a
superstar. You know, he wouldn'tpay to keep players, he wouldn't pay
to build a team. And hetalked about there's a great quote from the
show where he's not selling success,he's selling hope because they're never good enough
to be successful. But maybe maybe, you know, maybe around the corner.

(26:32):
So he didn't really care. Hemade the same amount of money if
they were battery exactly exactly from abottom line standpoint, it didn't matter.
Donald Sterling. We're talking to Kellyo'coin. It's a delicious news series on
Hulu called Clipped. So there youare. You're in so many scenes with
so many great actors, and you'vebeen in scenes with great actors before.

(26:55):
You just finished The Holdovers with PaulGiamati. This is the glass. This
is a great time in your career, young man. Thanks Dad, it
was it's been it's been fun.It's been a nice ride. And it's
uh, you know, I hadthis the stability of Billions for seven seasons,
eight years, and so it's niceto be, uh to be able

(27:18):
to leave that and you know,stick the dismount hopefully. And I'm knocking
on wood as I say that,sure, of course. And just from
a an actors standpoint, do youyou still uh have to look for projects
hope that stuff comes to you?I mean, is there a career momentum
that comes with these achievements that hadseemed to be really something special? In

(27:42):
other words, does it change yourcareer a bit? Yeah? Billions definitely
changed my career. There's a lotthat I get. I never used to
get straight offers, but I donow not across the board. I still
audition I auditioned for clips, andbut you know, I just did.
I did a Law and Order episode, and I did some episodes of L's

(28:04):
Backs and those were straight offers.So you know that that kind of thing
happens where it didn't used to.Were you law or were your order Kelly
and the lawn Order? Were youof the were you one of the order
of my friend? Okay? Good, good, good? All right?
Hey, Kelly, you know Ilove your work. I think you're truly

(28:27):
top of the game. But wow, to see you with others who are
top of the game every week onthis series, it's so great and it's
a story that we lived here inLos Angeles, so it's really terrific.
Congratulations on clipped. Thank you somuch. I appreciate it. My plank.
Yeah, good to talk to Kellyo'cawn. Check it out. It's
on Hulu and you will love it. It's The Conway Show. Mark Thompson

(28:51):
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