Hour 1 | UCLA Protests @ConwayShow

UCLA Protests – the next day...now what? UCLA Protesters and the numerous warnings they were given. Protesters arrested, cited & released. Protests in Chicago 1968 / House fire in Lynwood.

Episode Transcript

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It's k IF. I Am sixforty and you're listening to the Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.I Am six forty It Conway Show a

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king Dog. The protests that UCLAare over. Now the cleanup begins.
And uh, if you listened toKFI last night, we came on right
after mo Kelly. He stayed tilleleven. We came on from eleven o'clock,
or I should say I did fromeleven o'clock to about one thirty something
like that. And then I'm youwere on he remember how it's how long

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of a night it was? Itwas long? And uh and and and
Kiki was a great help, andbelly O and Tony the Bordom you were
an absolute side by. I realizedI made a mistake about fourteen years ago,
moving too close to the station.That's who they call first. Yeah,

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they had the proximity as tip foryou if you ever work in Bakersfield
and radio live in San Diego,there's my tip. What do you think
I live in Claricy. That's right, But I like it though. I
like the you know, the theuh you know, I think it's an
honor to be called and it wasgreat, man, it was it was

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It was really cool to be onwell a big story. That was an
international story. There are people aroundthe world watching that UCLA is. A
is a world renowned university. It'sone of the most famous universities in the
world. That UCLA logo, yousee it everywhere you go to you know,
you're traveling Europe, Japan, China, you know, Australia, South

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America, Africa, and everywhere yougo you see that logo. You see
LA. It's synonymous with uh,you know, with the beach and the
Southern California lifestyle. And as muchas that's been degraded over the last twenty
or thirty years, it's still ayou know, it's a world class organized,

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a world class university, UCLA.And while Southern California is not what
it was when I grew up,I'll tell you that. And here's a
microcosm of that. My daughter wentto the beach with a bunch of her
friends. They're about to graduate highschool, and they went to the beach
and one kid started a bonfire,and I guess he got in trouble for

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doing that. But when I wasa kid, you could go to any
beach in California, move the sandaway, put some logs down, start
a bonfire, and the cops wouldnever hassle your bonfire, as ahoy,
never hassle you at all. Youcould walk your dog on the beach without
a leash. You could smoke cigarettes, you could drink beer, you could
drink alcohol, you can smoke weed. You can do almost anything you wanted

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to do on the beach. Itwas fair game after night, after dark.
But now you get arrested for almosteverything. You know that that that
sign that's on an airline, ifyour front, if you're if you're on
an airplane, a commercial airliner,and you see a sign over the toilet,
it'll say all the things not tothrow in the toilet. No cigarettes,

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no napkins, no sanitary napkins,I you know I, no soap,
no nothing. Right, there's likenine things. There's the sign should
say you know we we and dutyonly, but it doesn't. But that
sign is now at Santa Monica Beach. There's a whole sign of things you

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can't do on the beach now,and so it's not the same as when
I grew up. There's a lotof there's a lot of freedom you could
do almost anything, you know,when I was growing up. Now you
can't do anything. But U cl A still has a great reputation until
last night. Until last night,It's going to be a long time before
U c l A can get thatreputation back, a long time because people

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every time you ipe in UCLA nowon Google, and there was no Google
back in nineteen sixty, nineteen seventy, nineteen eighty, and so when Kent
State happened, you could still right, you know, if you still type
in Kent State, that was beforethe Internet, you'll see the mayhem and
the protests still going on at theuniversity at Kent State, and the National
Guard coming onto campus. That wasin the sixties. And that's if you

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type in I'm gonna do that.I'm gonna type in crasher. Do you
have the Internet open? I do, type in Kent State. And then
and in searches, what is thefirst thing that comes up? Is it
the protest of nineteen sixty eight?I believe, aside from the university's own
website, the first thing is WikipediaKent State shootings. Okay, that was

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what nineteen sixty eight, was itsixty eight or before that? Was sixty
seven, seventy it was seventy.Okay, May fourth is that right?
Wow? May the fourth be withyou? Nineteen seven? Four years ago
Saturday, it'll be yeah, aftertomorrow it'll be what did you say,
fifty four years? Yeah, fiftyfour years. That's wild fifty four years

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and that's fifty four years ago beforethe Internet. That was before social media,
is before texting. That was nineteenseventy. And yet you still type
in Kent State and that's the first, second, or third thing that comes
up that's going to happen for therest of eternity with UCLA when you type
in UCLA in your computer on Google, unless UCLA does spends a lot of

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money to try to wash this andget it off the websites and get it
off the Internet, which is verytough to do. The first thing you
see when you type in, like, I'm going to type in UCLA right
now, you see LA and I'mnot gonna I'm going to do a Google
search for UCLA, and I'll tellyou what comes up here, all right?

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You see LA, bang, andit comes up the University of Southern
California, And then are Pro PalestinianEncampment cleared, UCLA tries torect to reconcile
a week of turbulent events, andit goes on and on and on.
And if you put in images ornews, if you type UCLA and put

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in images, it's still all aboutfootball on the campus. But now on
the top level there's three of thefive let me say one, two,
three, four, five, there'sfive pictures on the top two of them
are already the protests, and thetop ten pictures, five of them are
the protests. And now UCLA willalways be connected to that event, always,

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And it's because the guys and galsrunning UCLA, they goofed, they
messed up, and they they shouldhave to resign, they really should.
I never call for people's jobs.I don't like that, like when people
call for mine, only calling forpeople's jobs. But man, did they
screw this up. They really screwedthis up. If you have kids that
are going to UCLA, you're nervousas hell last night, you know,

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because you didn't know what was goingto happen. And now when you say
that your kids going to UCLA,people aren't as congratulatory. People are now
like, are you going to useCLA? Okay? On campus or off
campus? Where are your kids?Where's your kid gonna live with these nuts
or without these nuts? Because halfof those students that were protesting, they

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were they were students at the school, They were students, and and a
lot of them, i would say, the majority of them, A lot
of them look like they haven't reallyever found a cause in life before.
You know, they're sort of goofy. And I was that way when I
was a kid too, you know, you sort of goofy, either shy

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or anti social. And all ofa sudden, they found a group of
people exactly like themselves, and theyall got together. They all had a
common cause, they all slept intents, they all probably socialized for the first
time in their life, and theywere really enjoying this. And then it
all comes to an end. Andthen President Biden today has asked, of

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all the protests, the two thousandarrests, all the you know, the
publicity that all these encampments have garneredover the last two weeks, has it
changed your foreign policy with Israel andand Gaza and the you know, the
West Bank, the Palestinians, hasit changed your policy at all? And
without skipping a beat, he saidno. He said no. All of

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these protests have had zero effect onthe president. Zero, So what are
we doing. There's got to bea different way. That's not working.
All the protests. They couldn't theycouldn't get more publicity for these protests.
They're on every radio station, they'reon every TV station, they're all over
the internet. You couldn't get morepublicity for it. The cable stations cover

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them sometimes twenty four hours a day. And there's some other bigger news going
on. You know, the formerpresident of the United States is on trial.
They could send him go to jail, and you never hear that story
unless it's on MSNBC or CNN.You never really hear the details of that
story because these college campuses have beenovershadowing that story. So they got a

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ton of publicity. Whoever wanted toget publicity for the protest, you got
it. But it had zero effect. So Plan B, Plan B.
And when we come back, I'llgive you a hint what Plan B is.
I'll help you out. I knowwhat Plan B is for the protesters,
and i'll come back. I'll tellyou what it is. You'll enjoy
this and you'll probably say this kid'sgot a point. You're listening to Tim

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Conway Junior on demand from KFI AMsix forty. You know who needs more
training, UCLA students because they didn'tunderstand the ramifications if you protest out there
after the time when the cops sayto leave, that they're going to rip
down your tent, throw you inhandcuffs and arrest you. And they told

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those kids all night long, youcan leave now, or you're going to
get arrested. You can leave now, you're going to get arrested, and
they stayed and stayed and stayed,and now they screwed their lives out.
And you could have left last nighton your own. They gave you plenty
of opportunities, and you could havebeen part of You could have been ninety

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eight percent part of that of thatprotest if you left at twelve o'clock,
eleven thirty, eleven o'clock, maybeeven even one o'clock, you know,
before the cops surrounded everybody. Ifyou split, you'd have beend at home
right now, enjoying yourself. Noarrest record, no expulsion, no suspension.
But they stayed. When were theystopping people from leaving? Because I

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know Chris Adler had an issue gettingout last night. They wouldn't let her.
Yeah, I don't know, butI know they gave a lot of
warnings before they finally said, youknow, that's a wrap. And I'm
sure they had them definitely cordoned offthe different groups that people like press and
such. Yeah, and I thinkthey even probably gave them, you know,
a last opportunity, said hey,look, we're going where there's nine
thousand of us, there's eight ofyou. We have a lot of equipment.

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You have none. You have plywoodand umbrellas, and yeah, it's
you're you're gonna lose this one.And it's in a major, major way.
And I didn't know this, butyou know, I thought the umbrellas
and the and the tents and everythingand uh, you know the pop ups,
I thought that was to protect themfrom projectiles or bottles or whatever.

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But I heard from a cop todayon on TV that's a that's a that's
a tool that people use to keepsatellite cameras from uh taking pictures of where
they are drones or yeah, yeah, exactly, so they so they they
can't be surprised. They you know, they they sort of hide between you
know, behind all that stuff.But anyway, so here's the tip for

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the protesters out there. These protestersare too scattered. You know, they're
all over the country and they're inalmost every university, and it's too open.
There's not enough of you to makea difference. And you saw that
last night a UCLA. There's justnot enough. I was reading the difference
between, you know, because everybodywants to kind of correlate, you know,
the nineteen sixties and Vietnam and allthat stuff, and Columbia specifically,

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and how Columbia in that was thatwas a real central point for a lot
of the protester in Vietnam, andwhen they basically did the same thing back
in the late sixties early seventies andthey took over Hamilton Hall as well,
and police went in there and arrestedpeople. The differences of as like you
say, the numbers of people thatwere arrested then it was like seven hundred
to one thousand were supposed to justlast week here Columbia was like one hundred.

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You need numbers, and you can'tget numbers scattered around the United States.
So here's your next move. TheDemocratic National Convention August nineteenth, twentieth,
twenty first, and twenty second.You guys all need to gather at
that. You don't go to theRepublican Convention because you won't be welcome there,
But you'll get a sympathetic year witha lot of people that go to

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this Democratic National Convention in Chicago onthe nineteenth, twentieth, twenty first,
and twenty second of August. Andthat was proven in nineteen sixty eight that
that happens to work. But thisright now, these protests are too scattered
and it's too all over the place. You need a big show of numbers.

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And you know they had that backin nineteen sixty eight with the March
on Washington as well. You knowyou had tens or hundreds of thousands of
people. You need in today's day, you need hundreds of thousands of people
to make a statement. You can'tdo it with two or three hundred people.
Nobody cares. It's just an inconveniencefor everybody else at these colleges.
All right, we'll come back.We'll go through last night. There's some

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great information on how the comps didit, how many were arrested, what's
going to happen to them? Andthe police clashing with the UCLA students last
night is still a major story.It's an international and happened right here in
our backyard. Wildly embarrassing, wildlyembarrassing. We have the Olympics coming up

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in four short years, and thisis what the world's looking at at Los
Angeles right now. If you typein Los Angeles and you live somewhere overseas,
you're going to see these riots atUCLA. It's a huge embarrassment.
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior ondemand from KFI AM six forty. All
right, the arrest from last nightat UCLA. How many, what they're

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charged with, where they're going?What do you say? What do you
know? Let's find out what happened? After all the TV cameras turned off
midday this morning, the campus wascleared. All the trash was thrown away
in big dumpsters. Now, whatis going to happen with these kids?
What is going to happen with theseprotesters? How many were there? What

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are the details with that encampment lastnight? Most of the protesters that were
arrested at UCLA were brought here toMen's Central Jail to be processed. We
had a chance to talk to afew of them after they were released.
Take a listen. After being takeninto custody at UCLA, the La County
Sheriff's Department says one and thirty fiveof the more than two hundred protesters arrested

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were brought here to Men's Central Jail, and they're downtown Los Angeles. Here.
They were all processed, cited,and then released once they got past
the line of La County Shaf's deputiesweren't to the jail facility from campus or
had already been processed here. Theyshared what they went through early this morning
when the encampment was being taken downby police. A lot of officers telling

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people even though we were like gettingripped away, you know, yeah,
this has been a lot. Honestly, I'm kind of just I'm glad we
did it. I don't I weren'tdefinitely not done, but I'm just ready
wait you're on. I weren't definitelynot done, not done, Okay,
all right, so a lesson's learnedfrom this young lass. But I'm just

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are you could have bed now,I've been up forever. There you are,
there, you go, yeah,go to bed and get some sleep.
Get a hot bowl of soup andback to classes with you. It
was chaotic, it was scary.You know. They were unresponsive to the
things we would say, and theydestroy everything we had. They traveled over
our tents, you know, everythingwe had inside, and it seems like,

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you know, they had no remorseor sympathy for us. Okay,
Well they've told you twenty times toget the hell off campus and you didn't
listen. You could have taken yourtent home and all your you know,
your toys, your books, yourcandles, your dream catchers, whatever you
had there. You could have takeneverything home, and you didn't. You

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made your own bed here, youngman. After being released, some of
the students told us getting arrested wasworth it for them. Okay, all
right, all right, well there'san angle. It's fine. I mean,
we're disappointed that it happened, butyou know, it's something two of
the people guys that are going throughright now. So what's next for the
protesters who were arrested. There weresome attorneys here to explain what they could

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be facing legally. LA County DistrictAttorney Georgia Gascon talk to us earlier today
about what the protesters could be facingAll right, here's the DA of La
County. What's going on with theseprotesters? What are they looking at?
Punishment wise? So far, youknow, it looks like the behavior has
been you know, it's being handledrest and release, in which I again

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suspect that because of that, thatmost of those cases our city attorney cases
that we may not see any ormaybe very few cases at all. And
after there, you go, right, so all those cops had to come
in, you know, ruined theirnight, spend a lot of money on
equipment, a lot of money onovertime, and those arrests are going to
mean nothing nothing. Nobody's going tojail, No one's gonna get fine,

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no one's gonna get a record.Is that what he's saying? And after
here, many of those tudents didreturn to campus. They still have midterms
take care of. When we askedwhat snacks as far as a protest,
some indicated don't rule out the possibilityof another encampment popping up on campus.
Oh is that right? Okay,all right, that's gonna be welcomed.
Recording live you're downtown La. I'mso gar I see you man, those

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kids are gonna you gotta you gottarespect the balls of those kids. If
they put another encampment up that iswild, UCLA is not going to stand
for that. They're not going tostand for it. They can't. They
have to they they have to havestudents want to go to UCLA. And
if you have encampment after encampment,an eight hundred cops show up every couple
of months, people are gonna sayscrew it and they're going to go to

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a different school. All right,How did the cops do this last night?
How did they coordinate this event?What was the strategy all that?
Will we come back, uh lookbehind the scenes on how they they put
the plan together to take down thisencampment with the fewest uh you know,
injuries towards to the cop and tothe the kids there that are protesting.

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We will go through that entire thingwhen we come back. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on de Mayo fromkf I AM six forty. Let's find
out what happened last night, howthe cops did this. I was talking
to Petros during the during the break, you know, during the the LA
riots, when the city had balls, the USC had a graduation six days

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after the riots. Six days afterthe riots, we just all went about
our our lives. People went abouttheir lives. But now everybody stops for
these protests. Everybody stops and wonderswhat to do and how to handle them,
what's next, what's going on?Then we got soft, MA think

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we got soft. Speaking of Petros, I just saw him as the bumper
was playing, walking by in thehallway, literally twerking. Yeah, he's
he knows how to talk. Hestarted to working, the hips were moving,
Yeah, he's a He started talkingat us to the ground. He
was on me. The pantry duringthe riots, the pantry stayed open,
never closed, open twenty four hoursa day because that's where the cops were
eating. Cops had two, twoor three guys outside to protect the place,

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and the other cops ate there.And that's when you know the city
had had real guys buzzing around,which is always the irony because who were
all the employees of the pantry,right, yeah, exactly, the all
prisoners like the apple Pan. Yes, yeah, everybody that works at the
Apple Pan was an x com or. At least that was the rumor.
I don't if they were not,but by the way, when you know

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that, when you know that allthe workers are ex cons man, you
nice to them. Yeah. Younever say, hey, I think my
coke is flat. You never doany of that. You just eat the
crap they give you. That's right, that's right. Hey, I ordered
to stake. I ordered a beefsandwich. This thing is egg nog.
What, Yeah, you just ateit, ate it all right. Let's

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find out how First of all,let me play a little I got a
film strip here. Normally we don'tdo film strips on the air, but
let me see if I can thankyou for the tone to turn the next
slide, if I can spread thisthing here to play a film strip of
the look at you nineteen sixty eight. Damn you didn't forget any of that
national convention. There we go,radio, mister and Missions of America.

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This is the nineteen sixty eight conventionin Chicago. And listen to how many
cops, how many National Guard,and how many Army cats were out there.
In nineteen sixty eight, members ofthe Youth International Party Hippies they called
themselves, converged on Chicago. Theysaid they were there to protest the war,

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poverty, racism, and other socialills. Some of them were also
determined to provoke a confrontation to drawattention from the convention to the streets.
Mayor Richard Daley vowed to keep itpeaceful, even if it took force to
keep the peace. He was backedby twelve thousand police, five thousand National

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guardsman, okay, twelve thousand cops, five thousand National Guard. We're at
seventeen thousand if you're counting. Yougot a calculator out, you got your
radio shack, calculator rolling. We'reat seventeen thousand law enforcement right now.
Seventy five hundred regular army troops.All right, we're at nine. We're
twenty thousand, right around, twentythousand cops and National Guard and servicemen.

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Twenty thousand in Chicago. And theycouldn't keep the peace. That's how many
people were out there, and theywere pissed. It was known as the
Battle of Michigan Avenue. And Ihave a feeling that this is going to
be a repeat this year at thisconvention in Chicago. Let's go real quickly

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to Linwood here on Channel seven ifwe can. There's a major, huge,
huge house that's on fire that canbe seen from almost anywhere. It's
out near Lax in the Linwood area. Maybe an apartment building, might be
a probably apartment building out there.But there's a huge fire on Channel seven
right now. Let's jump on thevolume here, and it looks like probably

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five six fire engines. The housesor apartment building is completely destroyed. I've
popped the audio. Here's a reasonto be. The fire became fully engulfed
on this home. It's actually spreadto the neighbor's house. We don't know
what's inside the house or who's inside. And as you can see, they
have the flames pretty much under controlnow. It looked a little tricky just
a few minutes ago. And theyare now going through the home. You

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see on the side of the house. They're trying to get into the home
and look around. We don't knowwhat's going on inside. Are the circumstances
behind this fire and that suspect whois running around in front of that house,
But again, that suspect is incustody. Shots were confirmed to have
wrung out and that's all we knowright now. We're trying to get more

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information and I witnessed this at fiveis coming up next. We have a
preview with Mark Brown. All Right, all right, that was in Linn
Wood. For you geography nuts outthere, it's a little bit north of
the one oh five and between theseven ten and the one ten, between
the seven ten and one ten andjust off a little bit north of the
one oh five. That's where thatfire is going on. All right,

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let's find out what is happening andhow the cops did it last night.
They were able to secure so manyrests without any really major no major,
no deaths, and no major injurieslast night. It was pretty remarkable.
Yeah, there was a multitude ofhurdles to jump through. This has been
a long planning process. We've beenout here since early evening yesterday. I'm

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trying to coordinate and work with ourallied agencies at UCLA Police. Between everyone,
there was things like this encamment areait was hard just to get into.
There was multiple groups in different areais the campus as well as moving
moving targets as well. Talk tome about your game plan because at one
point you guys had some of thoseprotesters pushed up against the stairs, and

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then another point they were pushed upagainst the library, and so how are
these decisions kind of being made throughoutthe night. I can't speak too specifics
on what the actual situation was.Sure you could. It's over. You
can speak to specifics. It's ended. There's no element of surprise anymore.
I can't speak too specifics on myactual situation was. But our team out
here that was working tonight, ourspecial response team has tactics that they use

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that are trained within the CHP.So my guess is trying to break up
groups into certain areas. Yeah,this was a massive collaboration between multiple law
enforcement agencies. Do you know howmany officers within CCHP alone we're out here?
Okay? How many CHP officers wereout there? Great question? Less.
I hears maybe more coming from LosAngeles County here in Southern Division,

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Border Division which is Orange County,San Diego, San Diego County, as
well as in the Division which isRiverside in Sanmartino County. Any challenges with
some of these protesters, A lotof them seems like they we didn't kind
of quit get the number there.It was the only piece of audio that
was clipped. We didn't get theactual number. Your experience another officer's experience
with them detaining some of these protesters. Yeah, that's the case with any

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protests. You know, there's goingto be those peaceful protesters, which which
we support to the fullest. Butwhen it becomes dangerous and violent, those
are just unfortunate situations that we haveto handle as they come. You know,
last night, in watching all thecoverage, I got home last night
around around two two fifteen, andI stayed up till five o'clock watching I

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I couldn't go to sleep, couldn'tgo to bed watching because this is again
in our backyard, this is ourhome. This was happening in our house
in LA and it was being watchedby the world. So how could I
go to sleep when it was happeningin my backyard. This is our city,
this is our county, and itwas happening right here in a university

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that I've been to hundreds of times, and I've been to Westwood thousands of
times, and so I so I'mvery familiar with where this is all going
down, And so how could youjust go to sleep and ignore it?
I couldn't have to watch it all. And now that the sun is up,
now that this encampment is officially cleared, it's been here for a week.
Now, what are the next stepshere? Office? There? This

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is this is a piece of audio. I'm sorry. Let's go back to
the fire. They're back on channelseven right now, and this is a
major fire here. I think athree or four alarm fire here. Uh,
that's that's going on in channel seven. Let's crank in nearby home.
We will continue to monitor this andbring you any updates on eyewitness news.
All right, all right, butthey but there, there must have been

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some kind of firefight there that gotout of control because they landed an LA
County Sheriff's Department helicopter right there onthe street, which is very, very
unusual, so they had to bringsome reinforcements in really rapidly, so it
looks like a firefight starting, andthen the fire started, and then the

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firemen are always very hesitant to goon whether it's live ammunition or still a
guy inside shooting. So it's onchannel five right now. Let's go back
to real quickly. All right,let's take a break. Well, we'll
come back and talk more about this. But this fire looks like it's sort
of extinguished, but there's gonna bea bigger story come out of this fire.

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