February 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Renowned composer Charlie Fox joins the show to talk about the huge hit he wrote for Roberta Flack, “Killing Me Softly with His Song,” and how his relationship formed with Roberta. // Tim continues his conversation with renowned composer Charlie Fox, and they talk about his process for composing music and his collaborations with different lyricists. // Starbucks is laying off over 1,000 employees, and Tim surmises the reasons why Starbucks might be losing some business. // Tim provides an update on the health of Pope Francis who has been critically ill but has shown some signs of slight improvement today amidst battling a pneumonia and mild kidney failure. Tim also talks about his personal experience with Catholicism. And Tim talks about Emergency Room etiquette, and things that ER Doctors wish you would avoid.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. The world's
greatest songwriter is joining us. ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Flack passed away at age.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Eighty eight, and the man who wrote Killing Me Softly
is with us, Charlie Fox.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How are you, sir, I'm good, Tim, Thank you. Van
M's lovely to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm sorry that you lost such a beautiful friend and
such a talented woman. I can't imagine what it was
like to work with somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
She was. She was an extraordinarily talented woman. She was
a good friend, and you know, for many years we
had a wonderful relationship. It started up out of the blue. Tim,
I got a call from ROBERTA. Flag. She had just
won the Grammy Award I think nineteen seventy two or
seventy three for first time ever I saw your face
(00:59):
and day I was at the Musical Library at Paramount
Pictures and I get a call some and says here,
the phone is see you, and the phone is from
She says, Hi, this is ROBERTA. Flack. Mind you. She
was just wondering Grammy for Record of the year and
we haven't met, but I'm going to sing your songs.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That's how it started. And you know, over the years,
killing Meselfie look has been a very important part of
my life. It's a very important part of hers. Do
you know that she was the one who gave me
the and she inducted me into the song ride a
Hall of Fame. Oh that's great, nineteen ninety two thousand
(01:40):
and four, I think it was. And so she had
rehearsed singing the song and the two of us were
in an empty ballroom in New York used ballroom and
just talking and then began to share rehearse to song.
And I said, you know, Roberta, how how lucky for
me that you found my song? And she said she
was a very spiritual woman and she said, no, no,
(02:01):
this song found me. Wow. It was like she was
she was born to sing that song. And anyway, so
I have years of pleasure. And then she she sung
other too. She came out to California and she did
the theme for the Valerie Harper Show with me that
I wrote with Stephen Dyer. And yeah, that was on
the air for six six years. I think it was
(02:24):
funny because it was a Valie Harper show. And after
she was replaced by Sandy Duncan who became the Hogan Family.
And that's how I say it on the air for
six years.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But again, Tony boxes with us. I love the fact
that you remembered the phone call. You know that must
have been sixty years ago or so, and or maybe
you know fifty years ago, and you remember where you
were when you got.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That call from ROBERTA. Flag.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I love that you that you know that a person
like yourself, with all your success, still goes back to
these moments in Hollywood and in your life, your personal life.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Do you remember and they stick out with you?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Do you know what most people do? Most people remember
there's something important to I'll say another very nice story
just recently last week Lauren Hill sang, who of course
had her hit with the Fuji is twenty years later
and she she was her mother said that she was.
(03:21):
She would listened Verd the Flack saying, well, Lauren was
still not born, so she inherited that feeling. But anyway,
she sang that on that the miser Girl in the
Radio City last week about a week ago.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That great and she.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Lauren sang it and she was fantastic, saying, that's part
of the Saturday Night Live fifty or three union, you know.
And then Adele was also a very dear person and
I love her. Adele was watching that on television and
she posted on intimate or maybe you're Instagram page, someone
(04:01):
said it to me and she posted herself singing along
with Lauren and dancing to the song and uh. And
when I wrote to her, so thank you when I
saw that, she wrote back and she remembers the relationship
with the mother over that song. Wow, people people with them,
(04:23):
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Charlie Fox is with us.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He wrote to Kill Me Softly, along with a million
other TV theme songs as well. But you know, just
last night, it was so coincidental because I drove out
with my with my daughter out to Westlake last night
and this song came on the air. And it's one
of the few songs that that you know, you always
go for the volume button when you hear it. You know,
(04:47):
you want to turn it up, and you wanted to
play loudly in your car. And I told my daughter
of the story of if I knew Robbie Fox, and
I got to meet his dad, you know, Charlie Fox,
and and I was telling her about this song, and
she said, Dad, you've told me this story fifty times.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, I guess she didn't know that I set it
up for you to get that strong in your product.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But what a coincidence that we're driving to Westlake. What
a coincidence that we drive into Westlake hear this song
and then you know, and then just literally hours later,
one of the most beautiful singers in the.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
World passed away.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But Charlie, I know you're too close to this song,
so you know you can't separate yourself from it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But I can.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I got to tell you, you know, only beautiful songs
all this can be written by people with beautiful souls.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's not a mistake that you know that you were
able to come up with with a song like this
that has been around what since nineteen seventy one, so
that's thirty almost sixty years, And yet every time it
comes out, it's playing on stations that are playing modern
music as well, but they also go back to playing
this nineteen seventy one. I don't know what other songs
(06:04):
coast it was on Coast one on three point five.
I don't know the Coast plays another song on their
rotation from nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
There were very nice things to hear Dan, thank you,
but don't forget Norman Gimbla wrote those lyrics and that's
that was a fantastic lyric. I know, man, and we
wrote a lot of songs together, right, And you know,
you never know what the song. You know, you don't
know if it's going to reach people. If it does,
you got to can consider yourself. Look, I've been around
(06:33):
the world, performed in music. I've conducted orchestras in every country.
People said nice things to me about it in every language.
I performed it in French. I mean I didn't singing
it French. We had a wonderful singer and Sila, who
had won the French Voice contest as part of the
documentary film that you know that you know about.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The documentary's great. But you know Charlie not only killing
Me Softly nineteen seventy one and again played on my
radio last night as I drove to Westlake. But I
turn on the TV when I get home and they're
still using the love boat theme song from that you
created back in nineteen seventy six, nineteen seventy seven, that
that era, and they if you ask anybody in the
(07:16):
cruise industry, they attribute that song with that show's success
and turning cruising into the multi, multi billion dollar industry
that it is now. And they still use that song today.
And I saw an ad yesterday for a cruise ship
that uses that song today.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I get into that. It's also and I about that.
Paul was a brilliant lyricist, you know who I work
with on that song. And we said, well, when we
did the show, I think Princess line said two boats
and I don't know. They think they've had a thousand now.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, they create, they build two boats a week now
over their princess.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah. Both said that's not for us being around with
up right, try to get money, Princess exactly?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Can you stay with us?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Can I?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes? Can you stay?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, all right, I love to put you on hold here.
We got to take a break, but I want to
come back. Charlie Fox, the world's greatest songwriter is with us.
And if you have the world's greatest songwriter on you
gotta have him, you know, you got to keep him
around and have him, you know, tell these great stories
because he's got the greatest stories in the world. The
greatest song right Rode Killing Me Softly ROBERTA. Flak back
(08:29):
in the nineteen seventies. That song came out in nineteen
seventy two, and yet it played last night on Coast
one oh three.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Point five while I was driving around.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Tell me another song that that happens too, I say,
it's zero zero and then also, you know the love
boat theme song Wide World of Sports, Happy Days, Laverne
and Shirley. The greatest songwriter in the world is with us,
Charlie Fox. On a day that we're remembering ROBERTA. Flack
and killing me Softly.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI.
I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hello, Oh yes, exciting and new come aboard We're expected.
Oh what I saw?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I's gond my show on camp I am at six forty.
Charlie Fox is with us. He will kill me softly,
remembering ROBERTA. Flack as well as she turned eighty eight.
She was born February tenth, nineteen thirty seven, and passed
away today a little after her eighty eighth birthday. And Charlie,
I really appreciate you coming on. I know that ROBERTA.
(09:47):
Flack was a was a huge influence for a lot
of kids. She started playing piano and oregon in church,
and she was very religious and and you know, God
fearing and and I know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're also very religious as well.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think there's a great connection to being religious and
and and and soulful and great and beautiful music. Do
you get that connection at all? Or am I on
the moon here?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You know a lot of people have different ways that
they get their soulful moments. Religions certainly is one of them.
Humanity is that one of them. You know, the world
is one of them. We look around, we see, we
see the world needs, we see love, we see we
see emotions. And songwriters write about all those things, and
they're the digs deeply into their own their own beings
(10:38):
to come up with the person they are and the
song that they have to write and the needs they
have to write it. You know, I write, I write melodies.
I always work with the lyricists, and I had the
good fortune to work with some of the greatest Jim mcgimmel,
and I did a lot of songs to Hell David
and all going back to Sammy Kahn, and so the
(10:58):
experience is working people and they different motivations. So I've
done a lot of television theme songs, you know, but
in every case you dig deep down into your own feelings,
your own understanding of what it is and and call
it what you're like to Everyone has their own, their
own process, and it's all good. It's all good, whether
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it's religiously as it happens. I have written music. I've
written theturgical music, but I've written ballets and custom music too.
I just kind of I kind of loved doing it all.
But you know, talking about Roberta Flack, that was a
singular experience in my life. I mean around the world
when I would travel, everyone loved Roberta. And I was
(11:44):
so lucky that one of us songs was mine. Do
you know that I read that there was a magazine
article when she met Nelson Mandela. Mandela said to her
that her singing killing Me Softly kept him alive while
he was in prison. I mean, how much more meaningful
can can you get with something I touched with people?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh man, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I've been lucky to be able to be touched
with her by her and uh and you know we're friends.
I saw that a couple of three years ago actually,
when she came out here to do the the Grammy Awards.
She they gave her a lifetime Achieving and I spent
a full time with her. She was in the wheelchair then,
and she looked beautiful and I spent some lovely time
(12:31):
with her. And then when when I was given the
star of the Hollywood Walk of Famous past April, I
got a call from a bird of flack and now
she couldn't speak anymore. Her manager called me and I
spoke to her manager today and the managers that she's
here with her birders. Once they congratulate with me and
Sunday love and and so I could get to express
(12:52):
my feelings to her back on the phone. I was
on Hollywood Boulevard ready to get this visious honor. Were
remain truly appreciative and in love with it with a
great woman who was more than a great song style.
She she really was. She she brought her in her
feelings with her. She was she called it soul, you know,
(13:14):
and as a lot of people would, but she dug
deep into her soul to get those things.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And yeah, Charlie Fox is with us when you talk
about process in writing a song, I really don't think
that you could have done it on your own. I think,
you know, with your wife, Joan, I think she was
a huge part of your success, raising three beautiful kids
(13:40):
and still having you know, the time to sit there
alone in your studio and write your songs.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We Yeah, we're married sixty two years. Joan has been
part of my every moment in my musical life, and
and I share that with her. She says it with me,
and I always feel like we it together, to be honest,
it to and you know it together. And when I
read a deal, you're long a tell you this, and
you're very good friends with Ruby of course they know
(14:10):
and uh. And so the deal was I wrote all
the music and Joe did everything else.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I respected your wife because she yelled at me like
I was one of her own, and I felt like
I was family.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You can't get better recognition than her yelling. So far
the way. I was friendly with your dad as well.
I loved your dad, you know. Yeah, we worked the dad.
I wrote my only uh rap song and we wrote
it for Iced Tea, of all people. This is before
he became a television star. He was a sweet, soft,
(14:54):
soap spoken I can't to the studio with like in
it Wardian sort of an outfit with a cane. It
was a three guy and he and your dad sang
the song that we wrote called the Long Shot. Yeah,
that four loses a track and so I'm still treasure
that that moment. Anyway, I think I.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Think that was his only rap song as well. I
don't remember him getting deep into the rap world after that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think that was a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I think we were at was in the rap world
after that real quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I know we're you know, a ropertaflex on your mind,
but if you could, please, if you could please tell
us that story. I never get tired of the story.
And I know we have different listeners that may not
have heard it, but the story of you taking the
theme to the Love Boat over to Aaron Spelling is
such a quick but great story.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Sure, I'll be happy to do so. Paul Williams and
I wrote there was a television movie called The Love Boat.
I did a few of those and decided to make
a series out of it, and I said to Aaron Spelling,
why don't we get a song of takeing a theme
about I'll get less bul Wlliams to write a lyric.
We'll have a song and he said, great, great idea.
(16:05):
So we made that. We wrote the song. Paul and
I went to the studio made a really good demo,
which a professional songwriter would do, and I brought it
to Aaron's office and he said, oh boy, what'd you
bring me? I said, I think I have a good
song eron. He said, all right, let's hear it. I said, great,
I have a tape with me. Do you have a
tape machine? And he said, no, we have no tape machine.
(16:28):
He's used. He used your office on a lot of
twenty says your fox. He had everything you think of
on those walls, but no tape machine. I said, well,
no problem. I brought a cassette with me. You have
a cassette I said, I brought a cassette with me too.
You have a cassette machine, he said, let me ask
my secretary. Say it comes back in a few minutes
and says, sine Must is telling there's no cassette machine
(16:50):
in the building. So I said, really, no problem. I said,
when a lot of twenty cent your foxes, lots of
pianos and studios. I used to sometimes use mel Brooks office.
He had a in it when I get to play
some songs of people. Mel mel was fine with that.
I said, let's I'll do it. I'll sing it live,
and his his Secretaric's back in a few minutes of them, Sorry,
(17:12):
miss going, there's no no channo available a lot. So
I look at him and how am I gonna? Are
you going to hear the song? I SA, all right, Aaron,
here goes and I started snapping my fingers. I love
exciting and new We're expecting you the love. That's how
(17:35):
he heard the docpella snapping my fingers.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Great.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And the curious thing is he said, I like it,
But that song.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, you know, fifty years later, it's still being
used today to sell cruise the cruise lines, and that's
a multi multi billion billion dollar industry. And again, I
know I've said this before, I'll say it a million
times until I die. They a lot of people credit
that show, and that show would not have been the
same without that theme song.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It wouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, please take my love.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I really appreciate coming on. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I know what she what ROBERTA. Flack meant to you
and uh and you'll always be connected with her. And
I really appreciate taking time with us today.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Thank you very much. It's a great, great loss for
those of us will love her and those of USh
didn't know it but just loved the music. So yes,
it's a sad day. Thank you very much. It's wonderful
to speak with you as always.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I really appreciate it, all right, mister Fox, thank you
very much. Every time I run into him, you know,
I still I've known him since I was twelve years old,
and I still refer to as mister Fox. And he
goes please, he goes, got almighty, he goes call me Charlie,
and I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's mister Fox, Missus Hennessy, ms McDaniel, mister Crouch, Missus Crouch,
you know, Missus Ray. It's still you know, mister Lowie
ash or mister Tampkin, all those guys. I still when
I see him, it's still mister and then the last name,
mister Myers. I have never used Steve Meyers dad's first
(19:14):
name in my life.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't even know it. Don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Known't the guy for fifty years, don't even know it's
less his dad's first name.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
When I heard ROBERTA.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Flack pass away today, first thing I thought it was
you and Robbie Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's a great loss, man, that ROBERTA. Flack is
an international, huge, huge celebrity. You know, later on in
before she got sick, she would perform that song in
Europe or Africa or Australia, you know, South America and
sell out, you know, just based on that one song
(19:48):
and everybody knew it. It was the number one song in
the world for thirty thirty five years.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Growing up with my dad being in music and in
bands and stuff, and they'd always do cover songs and
there were a few singers, specifically female, that my dad
always was very just celebratory towards it. Just talks about
how great their voices were. Karen Carpenter ROBERTA. Flack with
the two that he always talked about, man and kind
of when Karen Carpenter passed away. He the only time
(20:14):
I ever saw him cry was certain people with those voices,
and Flack was definitely one of the two. He always mentioned.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, they were on my mom's list too, especially Karen Carpenter. Yeah, man,
whatever voice just unbelievable. Two of the great by the way,
your dad unbelievable taste of music, Karen Carpenter were Berta Flack.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't know how you beat that, you know, for
one two punch? That is great?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
ROVERTA Flag passed away at age eighty eight, And we're
fortunate enough to get Charlie Fox, who wrote Killing Me
Softly on the air. If you missed any part of it,
you can go back and listen to the podcast. He
came on shortly after five pm. Ah, what a man?
What Amen?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Love that, mister Fox.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
ROBERTA. Flack passed away at age eighty eight. What a life.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
February tenth, nineteen thirty seven to February What is today?
The twenty fourth, twenty fourth, two thousand and five, just
celebrated her eighty eighth birthday. Okay, we have Starbucks is
in the news. I think that a lot of people
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are still going to Starbucks and still enjoying Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I do see the tapering off.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Whenever I went to Starbucks five years ago, ten years ago,
there was.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Always always a line. Always.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now maybe one person in front of me, maybe two.
And I understand a lot of it is, you know,
ordering online and you know I'm getting it to go,
and ordering where you don't have to stand in line.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I get that, But I think they've had people there's
other options out there. When Starbucks it was really hot,
it was the only the only option. Everybody went there,
and it was a place to meet people. It's a
place to hang out. You didn't just have coffee and split.
Maybe you worked on a script that you're writing and
that you know, you showed everybody you were working on
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a script, and that's that's always a cool look. When
you got a script and you're, you know, working on
it at Starbucks. Nothing says, uh, you're really cool over
working a script at Starbucks. It's always a cool look.
It's never ever pretentious or goofy or d bagg is
(22:39):
or uh self serving or braggadocious or creepy. It's always
so studeley to sit there with papers all over the
table and people see that you're working on a script.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's my favorite thing of going to Starbucks is seeing
guys and gals work on scripts.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I enjoy them.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
What I like also is while they're working on the scripts,
well they take phone calls.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I enjoy that too, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I forgot about that little tidbit, that little d
additional sort of stutley move of taking loud phone calls
at the table.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's a good look as well. But I think the writers.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't know about you, Angel, what's going on in
Orange County, but I think a lot of the writers
have been replaced with homeless people.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh maybe not.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It seems like it, you know, but they seem to
read a lot of newspapers.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I saw a guy at the Starbucks that I that
I go to in Burbank, and I was in the
parking lot enjoying my Starbucks, and a guy with a
grocery cart came in. You know, it's a homeless guy
putting in a grocery cart. And all four of the
grocery parking spots were full. And he had to split
and go to another Starbucks. Oh, that happens.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That happens, though, that happens. Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Layoffs at Starbucks. What's going on here? What's going on
with the Starbucks?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
For more breaking news this morning from Starbucks, the company
plans to lay off eleven hundred corporate employees around the world.
It's the latest move by the new chairman and CEO
to try to streamline operations. In a letter sent out
to workers, CEO Brian Nichols says Starbucks will inform employees
tomorrow about who has lost their job. He goes on
to say that Starbucks plan to also eliminate several hundred
(24:28):
open and unfilled positions within the company. Seattle Bay Starbucks
has sixteen thousand corporate support employees worldwide, but.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is that way sixteen thousand corporate employees at Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Seattle Bay?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Starbucks has sixteen thousand corporate support employees worldwide, But.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Good god, sixteen thousand people who are not Beeriza's. They're
not cleaning up, they're not taking your order, they're in
the office at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That seems like a perfect bullseye and target for doze.
They need to get doze in there and whack some
of those guys and gals.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That includes some employees who aren't impacted, like roasting and
warehouse staff.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh that's a good job to.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Have roasting and warehouse staff roasting.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I'm a roaster.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We're told baristas in the company stores will also not
be affected by layoffs.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Boy, all right, then we have a Pope Francis update
when we come back. Pope francis very very sick man,
and he's the King of the Catholic Church and he's
not well.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But we'll give you an update when we come back.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (25:44):
We have an update on Pope Francis, the head of
the Catholic Church. He's been ill lately, so let's get
an update on Pope Francis.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
The Associated Press reports that Pope Francis has shown slight
improvement in laboratory testing and has resumed work, including calling
a parish in Gaza. He made headlines for being in
critical condition over the weekend, battling pneumonia, also early stage.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Of kidney failure.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Here in southern California, Home to over four million Catholic
parishes are holding special masses.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And prayer visuals in his honor.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
The faithful say that they're praying for strength and healing.
The Vatican continues nightly prayers as the world watches and waits.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right, that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Pope France has showed slight improvement today, according to the Vatican.
On Monday afternoon, the Pope, who's eighty eight born the
same year as a word of Fleac, did some light
work around Rome's hospital where he spent the last ten
days with pneumonia, a complex infection mild kidney problems as
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well that together left him in critical condition. Court to
the Vatican. The Vatican said that France's mild kidney infection
or kidney problem was not a cause for concern, that
oxygen therapy continued, although with slightly reduced flow, and that
some laboratory tests have improved. So this guy man, he
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keeps going. He is a very strong man, eighty eight
years old. So that is the update on Pope Francis.
Two things I found interesting. One is they at the
Rome hospital where he's being treated. They the Pope has
his own room, his own suite. He doesn't share it
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with anybody, right, it's not into it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But even when he's not sick, that room is available
three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He doesn't have a roommate where they argue over what
channel the TV.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Is going to be on, or how about he's got
a roommate and dumb and Jim and the other guy
tries to like out religion him.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know what do you know? Yeah, he's like, you
think you're a religious how about me? So he has
his own room.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean literally, that room is available three hundred and
sixty five days here. Nobody goes in there, nobody uses
it unless you're the pope. And the second thing I
found interesting, you know, the Catholic Church is always you know,
supporting immigrants who are running around the running around the world,
you know, I'm leaving their home country to find a
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better life in another country, and that they always get
down especially in the United States. The United States has
always taken flag from the Catholic Church, saying that the
United States is too critical and too overbearing and has
too many rules when it comes to illegal immigration. However,
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a little hypocritical. The most difficult country in the world
to get into the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Vatican.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You can't become a citizen of the Vatican. It's impossible,
almost impossible. Yes, Catholic Church thing going with them. I
grew up Catholic, born and raised Catholic. Went I got
my first you know, it's confession first, and then you
get communion, and then I think comes after that confession,
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Communion confirmed, I think, and then marriage. And so I
have four out of those four. The confirmation one was
a big deal for my mom. She made me go
to a CCD on Wednesday and Friday after school. So
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while all my buddies were skateboarding on Friday at three o'clock,
I was at church for two and a half hours,
and I don't remember learning a lot in the two
and a half hours. I remember at our Lady of
Grace on Ventura and White Oak, looking out the window
and seeing my skateboard by to go to McDonald's. And
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I always thought I'd like to do that. I like
to be part of that. But I had to stick
with confirmation. And then my mom said once I was confirmed,
I didn't have to go anymore. And so I was confirmed.
I don't know seventh grade or so Timothy Walter Dalton
Conway is my confirmation name for anyone interested.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And then that was it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And then I just went to church on my own
whenever I wanted to, and my mom occasionally would lob in.
I don't know why I raised such a heathen to me,
but that didn't seem to bother me. But it's the
Catholic is a big commitment. I know, Judaism is a
big commitment as well. Getting a bar mits for a
bot mitzvah, a lot of work goes into them. But
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I always thought that my friends whose parents weren't that
really into religion, they had a lot going for them,
a lot of free time, a lot of time to
hang out and party and I chase guys or gals
whatever you're doing in life.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That was the move. That was the move.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
All right, we have we got some more news here
from sill Mar and Granada Hills. We got more debris
moving into these areas and people don't like that.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Ancidents from sill Mar and the Granada Hills area are
set to continue a protest against a plan to dispose
of wildfire debris at a local landfill. They fear the
material taken to the Sunshine Canyon landfill could still be
toxic despite efforts to have it sorted and cleaned. The
La County Board of Supervisors is said to vote on
the proposal tomorrow. Opponents will gather at Balboa Boulevard and
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Ronaldi Street at five tonight to protest that plan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Now, we've also we've got some emergency room etiquette. These
are er doctors and they wish you would avoid these things.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
We all have the same conclusions on what we wish
you avoids. You can jump in because I know both
of you have worked with me long enough that you
probably have heard me complain about this and that things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That are dangerous.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
It starts out in our kitchen. Avocados, something that I've
seen many atoll because of the knives.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know, the number one accident in the in the
kitchen is slicing a bagel in half. That's where the
emergency room sees the most guys and gals flying in
who are requiring stitches.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Cutting a bagel in.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Half always cut away from yourself. When you're cutting something
that is slippery and difficult to handle, like an avocado,
you want to make sure that you're doing it on
a stable surface. I know people can feel really confident
when they're holding that avocado that it's not going to
knife a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Very good option, but it's a horrible idea.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Butter knives are horrible unless that avocado is really really
ripe or ready to eat and soft and mushy. Really
dumb idea that it's not going to butter knife.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
Butter knife is one option, very good option, but I's
not Dad even kick them cells with a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So you've got to be seen.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Some dads cut themselves with a butter knife, and.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Some dads even kick themselves with a butter knife, So
you've got.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To be cared as idiot fathers.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Have you been around, I'd like to see some evidence
of that that guy's cut himself with a butter knife.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Hmm.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
Always cut away from yourself and not toward yourself. Another
thing that we know trampolines.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We ah, yes, the trampoline. I love the trampolines.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
We all know that they're dangerous, spinal cord injuries, broken bones.
You got to make sure that one person's on it
at a time.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
And oh no way, dude, trampolines don't get hot until
there's five guys on it at the same time, and
they're launching a guy in the middle. That's when it
gets great.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
So you got to make sure that one person's on
it at a time, and if you can develop a
safety apparatus around it. Strange dogs or dogs that just
don't belong to you. It's something that I reinforce and
has also made me a little bit more cautious around
dogs because I've seen strange dogs, strange dog, stranger dogs, strange.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
What is this strange dog doing? Is he like strange?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
He's being strange? Is this strange dog?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
That dog looking at him? My eyes right, strange? Look
at that guy.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Strange dogs, strange dogs. I've seen what animals can do.
You can't communicate with that dog. You don't know what
it's feeling. So if you don't know it, it's best
to keep your distance. Dogs like me, that's what you please.
And wearing a helmet most important. Seems so simple, but
I cannot tell you how many times I've had conversations
with people who wish that they can turn back time
and put the helmet on.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And put that helmet on. Very simple.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
And that seatbelt, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Think most people have gotten the seatbelt. But I see
kids riding bikes around all the time without a helmet. Son,
do it all the time. I see it all time.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Don't ape and don't smoke, a babe, just keep going?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
How many other warnings?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Thing?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
But these are basic things that like, we can all fix.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Basic things we can all fix. It's all all about
reducing your risk and every other step. I always seem
like a cautious person, but that's because I know too much.
So try to follow what I There, you go and stay.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Safe er emergency room doctors, all right, all right, don't
vape unless you were a helmet I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And stay away from the strange dogs. What can you do?
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Flu is not good. We're going to talk about it.
I got to warn you. We've got bad news on
the flus. Not very good flu and measles, A deadly
season for flu. Maybe you still can get the flu shot.
I don't know how to protect yourself, but it's not
a good one.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's not a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I think a lot of people passed on getting vaccinated
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
A lot of people said no.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Maybe they didn't trust the vaccine, or they just assume,
you know, they that they were okay. Maybe they'd loaded
up on covid vacs and they thought that would transfer over.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And also the doctors who put together the flu vaccine,
it wasn't a great year for them.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
They had twenty four percent success rate. Even doctor Ray
said it was not a good year.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Not a good year.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So we'll come back, not totally bum you out, but
just try to warn you that you could save your life.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We're live on KFI AM six forty Conway Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Now you can always
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Hear us live on KFI AM six forty four to
seven pm Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on
the iHeartRadio app.
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. The world's
greatest songwriter is joining us. ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Flack passed away at age.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Eighty eight, and the man who wrote Killing Me Softly
is with us, Charlie Fox.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How are you, sir, I'm good, Tim, Thank you. Van
M's lovely to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm sorry that you lost such a beautiful friend and
such a talented woman. I can't imagine what it was
like to work with somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
She was. She was an extraordinarily talented woman. She was
a good friend, and you know, for many years we
had a wonderful relationship. It started up out of the blue. Tim,
I got a call from ROBERTA. Flag. She had just
won the Grammy Award I think nineteen seventy two or
seventy three for first time ever I saw your face
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and day I was at the Musical Library at Paramount
Pictures and I get a call some and says here,
the phone is see you, and the phone is from
She says, Hi, this is ROBERTA. Flack. Mind you. She
was just wondering Grammy for Record of the year and
we haven't met, but I'm going to sing your songs.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That's how it started. And you know, over the years,
killing Meselfie look has been a very important part of
my life. It's a very important part of hers. Do
you know that she was the one who gave me
the and she inducted me into the song ride a
Hall of Fame. Oh that's great, nineteen ninety two thousand
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and four, I think it was. And so she had
rehearsed singing the song and the two of us were
in an empty ballroom in New York used ballroom and
just talking and then began to share rehearse to song.
And I said, you know, Roberta, how how lucky for
me that you found my song? And she said she
was a very spiritual woman and she said, no, no,
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this song found me. Wow. It was like she was
she was born to sing that song. And anyway, so
I have years of pleasure. And then she she sung
other too. She came out to California and she did
the theme for the Valerie Harper Show with me that
I wrote with Stephen Dyer. And yeah, that was on
the air for six six years. I think it was
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funny because it was a Valie Harper show. And after
she was replaced by Sandy Duncan who became the Hogan Family.
And that's how I say it on the air for
six years.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But again, Tony boxes with us. I love the fact
that you remembered the phone call. You know that must
have been sixty years ago or so, and or maybe
you know fifty years ago, and you remember where you
were when you got.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That call from ROBERTA. Flag.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I love that you that you know that a person
like yourself, with all your success, still goes back to
these moments in Hollywood and in your life, your personal life.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Do you remember and they stick out with you?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Do you know what most people do? Most people remember
there's something important to I'll say another very nice story
just recently last week Lauren Hill sang, who of course
had her hit with the Fuji is twenty years later
and she she was her mother said that she was.
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She would listened Verd the Flack saying, well, Lauren was
still not born, so she inherited that feeling. But anyway,
she sang that on that the miser Girl in the
Radio City last week about a week ago.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That great and she.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Lauren sang it and she was fantastic, saying, that's part
of the Saturday Night Live fifty or three union, you know.
And then Adele was also a very dear person and
I love her. Adele was watching that on television and
she posted on intimate or maybe you're Instagram page, someone
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said it to me and she posted herself singing along
with Lauren and dancing to the song and uh. And
when I wrote to her, so thank you when I
saw that, she wrote back and she remembers the relationship
with the mother over that song. Wow, people people with them,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Charlie Fox is with us.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He wrote to Kill Me Softly, along with a million
other TV theme songs as well. But you know, just
last night, it was so coincidental because I drove out
with my with my daughter out to Westlake last night
and this song came on the air. And it's one
of the few songs that that you know, you always
go for the volume button when you hear it. You know,
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you want to turn it up, and you wanted to
play loudly in your car. And I told my daughter
of the story of if I knew Robbie Fox, and
I got to meet his dad, you know, Charlie Fox,
and and I was telling her about this song, and
she said, Dad, you've told me this story fifty times.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, I guess she didn't know that I set it
up for you to get that strong in your product.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But what a coincidence that we're driving to Westlake. What
a coincidence that we drive into Westlake hear this song
and then you know, and then just literally hours later,
one of the most beautiful singers in the.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
World passed away.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But Charlie, I know you're too close to this song,
so you know you can't separate yourself from it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But I can.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I got to tell you, you know, only beautiful songs
all this can be written by people with beautiful souls.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's not a mistake that you know that you were
able to come up with with a song like this
that has been around what since nineteen seventy one, so
that's thirty almost sixty years, And yet every time it
comes out, it's playing on stations that are playing modern
music as well, but they also go back to playing
this nineteen seventy one. I don't know what other songs
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coast it was on Coast one on three point five.
I don't know the Coast plays another song on their
rotation from nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
There were very nice things to hear Dan, thank you,
but don't forget Norman Gimbla wrote those lyrics and that's
that was a fantastic lyric. I know, man, and we
wrote a lot of songs together, right, And you know,
you never know what the song. You know, you don't
know if it's going to reach people. If it does,
you got to can consider yourself. Look, I've been around
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the world, performed in music. I've conducted orchestras in every country.
People said nice things to me about it in every language.
I performed it in French. I mean I didn't singing
it French. We had a wonderful singer and Sila, who
had won the French Voice contest as part of the
documentary film that you know that you know about.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The documentary's great. But you know Charlie not only killing
Me Softly nineteen seventy one and again played on my
radio last night as I drove to Westlake. But I
turn on the TV when I get home and they're
still using the love boat theme song from that you
created back in nineteen seventy six, nineteen seventy seven, that
that era, and they if you ask anybody in the
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cruise industry, they attribute that song with that show's success
and turning cruising into the multi, multi billion dollar industry
that it is now. And they still use that song today.
And I saw an ad yesterday for a cruise ship
that uses that song today.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I get into that. It's also and I about that.
Paul was a brilliant lyricist, you know who I work
with on that song. And we said, well, when we
did the show, I think Princess line said two boats
and I don't know. They think they've had a thousand now.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, they create, they build two boats a week now
over their princess.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah. Both said that's not for us being around with
up right, try to get money, Princess exactly?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Can you stay with us?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Can I?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes? Can you stay?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, all right, I love to put you on hold here.
We got to take a break, but I want to
come back. Charlie Fox, the world's greatest songwriter is with us.
And if you have the world's greatest songwriter on you
gotta have him, you know, you got to keep him
around and have him, you know, tell these great stories
because he's got the greatest stories in the world. The
greatest song right Rode Killing Me Softly ROBERTA. Flak back
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in the nineteen seventies. That song came out in nineteen
seventy two, and yet it played last night on Coast
one oh three.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Point five while I was driving around.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Tell me another song that that happens too, I say,
it's zero zero and then also, you know the love
boat theme song Wide World of Sports, Happy Days, Laverne
and Shirley. The greatest songwriter in the world is with us,
Charlie Fox. On a day that we're remembering ROBERTA. Flack
and killing me Softly.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI.
I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hello, Oh yes, exciting and new come aboard We're expected.
Oh what I saw?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I's gond my show on camp I am at six forty.
Charlie Fox is with us. He will kill me softly,
remembering ROBERTA. Flack as well as she turned eighty eight.
She was born February tenth, nineteen thirty seven, and passed
away today a little after her eighty eighth birthday. And Charlie,
I really appreciate you coming on. I know that ROBERTA.
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Flack was a was a huge influence for a lot
of kids. She started playing piano and oregon in church,
and she was very religious and and you know, God
fearing and and I know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're also very religious as well.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think there's a great connection to being religious and
and and and soulful and great and beautiful music. Do
you get that connection at all? Or am I on
the moon here?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You know a lot of people have different ways that
they get their soulful moments. Religions certainly is one of them.
Humanity is that one of them. You know, the world
is one of them. We look around, we see, we
see the world needs, we see love, we see we
see emotions. And songwriters write about all those things, and
they're the digs deeply into their own their own beings
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to come up with the person they are and the
song that they have to write and the needs they
have to write it. You know, I write, I write melodies.
I always work with the lyricists, and I had the
good fortune to work with some of the greatest Jim mcgimmel,
and I did a lot of songs to Hell David
and all going back to Sammy Kahn, and so the
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experience is working people and they different motivations. So I've
done a lot of television theme songs, you know, but
in every case you dig deep down into your own feelings,
your own understanding of what it is and and call
it what you're like to Everyone has their own, their
own process, and it's all good. It's all good, whether
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it's religiously as it happens. I have written music. I've
written theturgical music, but I've written ballets and custom music too.
I just kind of I kind of loved doing it all.
But you know, talking about Roberta Flack, that was a
singular experience in my life. I mean around the world
when I would travel, everyone loved Roberta. And I was
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so lucky that one of us songs was mine. Do
you know that I read that there was a magazine
article when she met Nelson Mandela. Mandela said to her
that her singing killing Me Softly kept him alive while
he was in prison. I mean, how much more meaningful
can can you get with something I touched with people?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh man, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I've been lucky to be able to be touched
with her by her and uh and you know we're friends.
I saw that a couple of three years ago actually,
when she came out here to do the the Grammy Awards.
She they gave her a lifetime Achieving and I spent
a full time with her. She was in the wheelchair then,
and she looked beautiful and I spent some lovely time
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with her. And then when when I was given the
star of the Hollywood Walk of Famous past April, I
got a call from a bird of flack and now
she couldn't speak anymore. Her manager called me and I
spoke to her manager today and the managers that she's
here with her birders. Once they congratulate with me and
Sunday love and and so I could get to express
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my feelings to her back on the phone. I was
on Hollywood Boulevard ready to get this visious honor. Were
remain truly appreciative and in love with it with a
great woman who was more than a great song style.
She she really was. She she brought her in her
feelings with her. She was she called it soul, you know,
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and as a lot of people would, but she dug
deep into her soul to get those things.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And yeah, Charlie Fox is with us when you talk
about process in writing a song, I really don't think
that you could have done it on your own. I think,
you know, with your wife, Joan, I think she was
a huge part of your success, raising three beautiful kids
(13:40):
and still having you know, the time to sit there
alone in your studio and write your songs.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We Yeah, we're married sixty two years. Joan has been
part of my every moment in my musical life, and
and I share that with her. She says it with me,
and I always feel like we it together, to be honest,
it to and you know it together. And when I
read a deal, you're long a tell you this, and
you're very good friends with Ruby of course they know
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and uh. And so the deal was I wrote all
the music and Joe did everything else.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I respected your wife because she yelled at me like
I was one of her own, and I felt like
I was family.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You can't get better recognition than her yelling. So far
the way. I was friendly with your dad as well.
I loved your dad, you know. Yeah, we worked the dad.
I wrote my only uh rap song and we wrote
it for Iced Tea, of all people. This is before
he became a television star. He was a sweet, soft,
(14:54):
soap spoken I can't to the studio with like in
it Wardian sort of an outfit with a cane. It
was a three guy and he and your dad sang
the song that we wrote called the Long Shot. Yeah,
that four loses a track and so I'm still treasure
that that moment. Anyway, I think I.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Think that was his only rap song as well. I
don't remember him getting deep into the rap world after that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think that was a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I think we were at was in the rap world
after that real quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I know we're you know, a ropertaflex on your mind,
but if you could, please, if you could please tell
us that story. I never get tired of the story.
And I know we have different listeners that may not
have heard it, but the story of you taking the
theme to the Love Boat over to Aaron Spelling is
such a quick but great story.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Sure, I'll be happy to do so. Paul Williams and
I wrote there was a television movie called The Love Boat.
I did a few of those and decided to make
a series out of it, and I said to Aaron Spelling,
why don't we get a song of takeing a theme
about I'll get less bul Wlliams to write a lyric.
We'll have a song and he said, great, great idea.
(16:05):
So we made that. We wrote the song. Paul and
I went to the studio made a really good demo,
which a professional songwriter would do, and I brought it
to Aaron's office and he said, oh boy, what'd you
bring me? I said, I think I have a good
song eron. He said, all right, let's hear it. I said, great,
I have a tape with me. Do you have a
tape machine? And he said, no, we have no tape machine.
(16:28):
He's used. He used your office on a lot of
twenty says your fox. He had everything you think of
on those walls, but no tape machine. I said, well,
no problem. I brought a cassette with me. You have
a cassette I said, I brought a cassette with me too.
You have a cassette machine, he said, let me ask
my secretary. Say it comes back in a few minutes
and says, sine Must is telling there's no cassette machine
(16:50):
in the building. So I said, really, no problem. I said,
when a lot of twenty cent your foxes, lots of
pianos and studios. I used to sometimes use mel Brooks office.
He had a in it when I get to play
some songs of people. Mel mel was fine with that.
I said, let's I'll do it. I'll sing it live,
and his his Secretaric's back in a few minutes of them, Sorry,
(17:12):
miss going, there's no no channo available a lot. So
I look at him and how am I gonna? Are
you going to hear the song? I SA, all right, Aaron,
here goes and I started snapping my fingers. I love
exciting and new We're expecting you the love. That's how
(17:35):
he heard the docpella snapping my fingers.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Great.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And the curious thing is he said, I like it,
But that song.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, you know, fifty years later, it's still being
used today to sell cruise the cruise lines, and that's
a multi multi billion billion dollar industry. And again, I
know I've said this before, I'll say it a million
times until I die. They a lot of people credit
that show, and that show would not have been the
same without that theme song.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It wouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, please take my love.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I really appreciate coming on. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I know what she what ROBERTA. Flack meant to you
and uh and you'll always be connected with her. And
I really appreciate taking time with us today.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Thank you very much. It's a great, great loss for
those of us will love her and those of USh
didn't know it but just loved the music. So yes,
it's a sad day. Thank you very much. It's wonderful
to speak with you as always.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I really appreciate it, all right, mister Fox, thank you
very much. Every time I run into him, you know,
I still I've known him since I was twelve years old,
and I still refer to as mister Fox. And he
goes please, he goes, got almighty, he goes call me Charlie,
and I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's mister Fox, Missus Hennessy, ms McDaniel, mister Crouch, Missus Crouch,
you know, Missus Ray. It's still you know, mister Lowie
ash or mister Tampkin, all those guys. I still when
I see him, it's still mister and then the last name,
mister Myers. I have never used Steve Meyers dad's first
(19:14):
name in my life.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't even know it. Don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Known't the guy for fifty years, don't even know it's
less his dad's first name.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
When I heard ROBERTA.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Flack pass away today, first thing I thought it was
you and Robbie Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's a great loss, man, that ROBERTA. Flack is
an international, huge, huge celebrity. You know, later on in
before she got sick, she would perform that song in
Europe or Africa or Australia, you know, South America and
sell out, you know, just based on that one song
(19:48):
and everybody knew it. It was the number one song in
the world for thirty thirty five years.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Growing up with my dad being in music and in
bands and stuff, and they'd always do cover songs and
there were a few singers, specifically female, that my dad
always was very just celebratory towards it. Just talks about
how great their voices were. Karen Carpenter ROBERTA. Flack with
the two that he always talked about, man and kind
of when Karen Carpenter passed away. He the only time
(20:14):
I ever saw him cry was certain people with those voices,
and Flack was definitely one of the two. He always mentioned.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, they were on my mom's list too, especially Karen Carpenter. Yeah, man,
whatever voice just unbelievable. Two of the great by the way,
your dad unbelievable taste of music, Karen Carpenter were Berta Flack.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't know how you beat that, you know, for
one two punch? That is great?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
ROVERTA Flag passed away at age eighty eight, And we're
fortunate enough to get Charlie Fox, who wrote Killing Me
Softly on the air. If you missed any part of it,
you can go back and listen to the podcast. He
came on shortly after five pm. Ah, what a man?
What Amen?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Love that, mister Fox.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
ROBERTA. Flack passed away at age eighty eight. What a life.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
February tenth, nineteen thirty seven to February What is today?
The twenty fourth, twenty fourth, two thousand and five, just
celebrated her eighty eighth birthday. Okay, we have Starbucks is
in the news. I think that a lot of people
(21:22):
are still going to Starbucks and still enjoying Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I do see the tapering off.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Whenever I went to Starbucks five years ago, ten years ago,
there was.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Always always a line. Always.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now maybe one person in front of me, maybe two.
And I understand a lot of it is, you know,
ordering online and you know I'm getting it to go,
and ordering where you don't have to stand in line.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I get that, But I think they've had people there's
other options out there. When Starbucks it was really hot,
it was the only the only option. Everybody went there,
and it was a place to meet people. It's a
place to hang out. You didn't just have coffee and split.
Maybe you worked on a script that you're writing and
that you know, you showed everybody you were working on
(22:14):
a script, and that's that's always a cool look. When
you got a script and you're, you know, working on
it at Starbucks. Nothing says, uh, you're really cool over
working a script at Starbucks. It's always a cool look.
It's never ever pretentious or goofy or d bagg is
(22:39):
or uh self serving or braggadocious or creepy. It's always
so studeley to sit there with papers all over the
table and people see that you're working on a script.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's my favorite thing of going to Starbucks is seeing
guys and gals work on scripts.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I enjoy them.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
What I like also is while they're working on the scripts,
well they take phone calls.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I enjoy that too, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I forgot about that little tidbit, that little d
additional sort of stutley move of taking loud phone calls
at the table.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's a good look as well. But I think the writers.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't know about you, Angel, what's going on in
Orange County, but I think a lot of the writers
have been replaced with homeless people.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh maybe not.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It seems like it, you know, but they seem to
read a lot of newspapers.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I saw a guy at the Starbucks that I that
I go to in Burbank, and I was in the
parking lot enjoying my Starbucks, and a guy with a
grocery cart came in. You know, it's a homeless guy
putting in a grocery cart. And all four of the
grocery parking spots were full. And he had to split
and go to another Starbucks. Oh, that happens.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That happens, though, that happens. Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Layoffs at Starbucks. What's going on here? What's going on
with the Starbucks?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
For more breaking news this morning from Starbucks, the company
plans to lay off eleven hundred corporate employees around the world.
It's the latest move by the new chairman and CEO
to try to streamline operations. In a letter sent out
to workers, CEO Brian Nichols says Starbucks will inform employees
tomorrow about who has lost their job. He goes on
to say that Starbucks plan to also eliminate several hundred
(24:28):
open and unfilled positions within the company. Seattle Bay Starbucks
has sixteen thousand corporate support employees worldwide, but.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is that way sixteen thousand corporate employees at Starbucks?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Seattle Bay?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Starbucks has sixteen thousand corporate support employees worldwide, But.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Good god, sixteen thousand people who are not Beeriza's. They're
not cleaning up, they're not taking your order, they're in
the office at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That seems like a perfect bullseye and target for doze.
They need to get doze in there and whack some
of those guys and gals.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That includes some employees who aren't impacted, like roasting and
warehouse staff.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh that's a good job to.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Have roasting and warehouse staff roasting.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I'm a roaster.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We're told baristas in the company stores will also not
be affected by layoffs.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Boy, all right, then we have a Pope Francis update
when we come back. Pope francis very very sick man,
and he's the King of the Catholic Church and he's
not well.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But we'll give you an update when we come back.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
We have an update on Pope Francis, the head of
the Catholic Church. He's been ill lately, so let's get
an update on Pope Francis.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
The Associated Press reports that Pope Francis has shown slight
improvement in laboratory testing and has resumed work, including calling
a parish in Gaza. He made headlines for being in
critical condition over the weekend, battling pneumonia, also early stage.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Of kidney failure.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Here in southern California, Home to over four million Catholic
parishes are holding special masses.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And prayer visuals in his honor.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
The faithful say that they're praying for strength and healing.
The Vatican continues nightly prayers as the world watches and waits.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right, that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Pope France has showed slight improvement today, according to the Vatican.
On Monday afternoon, the Pope, who's eighty eight born the
same year as a word of Fleac, did some light
work around Rome's hospital where he spent the last ten
days with pneumonia, a complex infection mild kidney problems as
(26:50):
well that together left him in critical condition. Court to
the Vatican. The Vatican said that France's mild kidney infection
or kidney problem was not a cause for concern, that
oxygen therapy continued, although with slightly reduced flow, and that
some laboratory tests have improved. So this guy man, he
(27:12):
keeps going. He is a very strong man, eighty eight
years old. So that is the update on Pope Francis.
Two things I found interesting. One is they at the
Rome hospital where he's being treated. They the Pope has
his own room, his own suite. He doesn't share it
(27:34):
with anybody, right, it's not into it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But even when he's not sick, that room is available
three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He doesn't have a roommate where they argue over what
channel the TV.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Is going to be on, or how about he's got
a roommate and dumb and Jim and the other guy
tries to like out religion him.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know what do you know? Yeah, he's like, you
think you're a religious how about me? So he has
his own room.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean literally, that room is available three hundred and
sixty five days here. Nobody goes in there, nobody uses
it unless you're the pope. And the second thing I
found interesting, you know, the Catholic Church is always you know,
supporting immigrants who are running around the running around the world,
you know, I'm leaving their home country to find a
(28:23):
better life in another country, and that they always get
down especially in the United States. The United States has
always taken flag from the Catholic Church, saying that the
United States is too critical and too overbearing and has
too many rules when it comes to illegal immigration. However,
(28:46):
a little hypocritical. The most difficult country in the world
to get into the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Vatican.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You can't become a citizen of the Vatican. It's impossible,
almost impossible. Yes, Catholic Church thing going with them. I
grew up Catholic, born and raised Catholic. Went I got
my first you know, it's confession first, and then you
get communion, and then I think comes after that confession,
(29:18):
Communion confirmed, I think, and then marriage. And so I
have four out of those four. The confirmation one was
a big deal for my mom. She made me go
to a CCD on Wednesday and Friday after school. So
(29:39):
while all my buddies were skateboarding on Friday at three o'clock,
I was at church for two and a half hours,
and I don't remember learning a lot in the two
and a half hours. I remember at our Lady of
Grace on Ventura and White Oak, looking out the window
and seeing my skateboard by to go to McDonald's. And
(30:03):
I always thought I'd like to do that. I like
to be part of that. But I had to stick
with confirmation. And then my mom said once I was confirmed,
I didn't have to go anymore. And so I was confirmed.
I don't know seventh grade or so Timothy Walter Dalton
Conway is my confirmation name for anyone interested.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And then that was it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And then I just went to church on my own
whenever I wanted to, and my mom occasionally would lob in.
I don't know why I raised such a heathen to me,
but that didn't seem to bother me. But it's the
Catholic is a big commitment. I know, Judaism is a
big commitment as well. Getting a bar mits for a
bot mitzvah, a lot of work goes into them. But
(30:46):
I always thought that my friends whose parents weren't that
really into religion, they had a lot going for them,
a lot of free time, a lot of time to
hang out and party and I chase guys or gals
whatever you're doing in life.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That was the move. That was the move.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
All right, we have we got some more news here
from sill Mar and Granada Hills. We got more debris
moving into these areas and people don't like that.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Ancidents from sill Mar and the Granada Hills area are
set to continue a protest against a plan to dispose
of wildfire debris at a local landfill. They fear the
material taken to the Sunshine Canyon landfill could still be
toxic despite efforts to have it sorted and cleaned. The
La County Board of Supervisors is said to vote on
the proposal tomorrow. Opponents will gather at Balboa Boulevard and
(31:40):
Ronaldi Street at five tonight to protest that plan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Now, we've also we've got some emergency room etiquette. These
are er doctors and they wish you would avoid these things.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
We all have the same conclusions on what we wish
you avoids. You can jump in because I know both
of you have worked with me long enough that you
probably have heard me complain about this and that things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That are dangerous.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
It starts out in our kitchen. Avocados, something that I've
seen many atoll because of the knives.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know, the number one accident in the in the
kitchen is slicing a bagel in half. That's where the
emergency room sees the most guys and gals flying in
who are requiring stitches.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Cutting a bagel in.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Half always cut away from yourself. When you're cutting something
that is slippery and difficult to handle, like an avocado,
you want to make sure that you're doing it on
a stable surface. I know people can feel really confident
when they're holding that avocado that it's not going to
knife a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Very good option, but it's a horrible idea.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Butter knives are horrible unless that avocado is really really
ripe or ready to eat and soft and mushy. Really
dumb idea that it's not going to butter knife.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
Butter knife is one option, very good option, but I's
not Dad even kick them cells with a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So you've got to be seen.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Some dads cut themselves with a butter knife, and.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Some dads even kick themselves with a butter knife, So
you've got.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To be cared as idiot fathers.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Have you been around, I'd like to see some evidence
of that that guy's cut himself with a butter knife.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Hmm.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
Always cut away from yourself and not toward yourself. Another
thing that we know trampolines.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We ah, yes, the trampoline. I love the trampolines.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
We all know that they're dangerous, spinal cord injuries, broken bones.
You got to make sure that one person's on it
at a time.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
And oh no way, dude, trampolines don't get hot until
there's five guys on it at the same time, and
they're launching a guy in the middle. That's when it
gets great.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
So you got to make sure that one person's on
it at a time, and if you can develop a
safety apparatus around it. Strange dogs or dogs that just
don't belong to you. It's something that I reinforce and
has also made me a little bit more cautious around
dogs because I've seen strange dogs, strange dog, stranger dogs, strange.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
What is this strange dog doing? Is he like strange?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
He's being strange? Is this strange dog?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
That dog looking at him? My eyes right, strange? Look
at that guy.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Strange dogs, strange dogs. I've seen what animals can do.
You can't communicate with that dog. You don't know what
it's feeling. So if you don't know it, it's best
to keep your distance. Dogs like me, that's what you please.
And wearing a helmet most important. Seems so simple, but
I cannot tell you how many times I've had conversations
with people who wish that they can turn back time
and put the helmet on.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And put that helmet on. Very simple.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
And that seatbelt, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Think most people have gotten the seatbelt. But I see
kids riding bikes around all the time without a helmet. Son,
do it all the time. I see it all time.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Don't ape and don't smoke, a babe, just keep going?
Speaker 8 (34:50):
How many other warnings?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Thing?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
But these are basic things that like, we can all fix.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Basic things we can all fix. It's all all about
reducing your risk and every other step. I always seem
like a cautious person, but that's because I know too much.
So try to follow what I There, you go and stay.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Safe er emergency room doctors, all right, all right, don't
vape unless you were a helmet I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And stay away from the strange dogs. What can you do?
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Flu is not good. We're going to talk about it.
I got to warn you. We've got bad news on
the flus. Not very good flu and measles, A deadly
season for flu. Maybe you still can get the flu shot.
I don't know how to protect yourself, but it's not
a good one.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's not a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I think a lot of people passed on getting vaccinated
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
A lot of people said no.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Maybe they didn't trust the vaccine, or they just assume,
you know, they that they were okay. Maybe they'd loaded
up on covid vacs and they thought that would transfer over.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And also the doctors who put together the flu vaccine,
it wasn't a great year for them.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
They had twenty four percent success rate. Even doctor Ray
said it was not a good year.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Not a good year.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
So we'll come back, not totally bum you out, but
just try to warn you that you could save your life.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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