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September 19, 2023 34 mins
Amy King hosts your Monday Wake Up Call. ABC White House Correspondent Karen Travers discusses President to address UN General Assembly and give a “full-throated defense of support for Ukraine. Host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard joins Amy King on Wake Up Call to talk about why not all index funds are created equal, cell phone carrier promotions that are happening right now that are trying to entice folks into getting a new iPhone. Amy interviews Botanical Gardens Curator Brandon Tam about the Corpse Flower that is ready to bloom at the Huntington Library. The Corpse Flower is the largest unbranched inflorescence in the plant kingdom. It can grow more than 8 feet tall, blooms for only 1 to 3 days every year or so, and boasts a powerful stench when it blooms, earning the flower its putrid name. ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst Jim Ryan wraps the show speaking on fake goods causing real damage.
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You're listening to KFI AM six fortywake Up Call with me Amy King on
demand on the iHeartRadio apps. It'sgonna be left on a day, Los
Angeles, Srange County. It's timefor your morning wake up call. Here's

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Amy King. It's actually good thatwe played that because that thing. This
is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. We have a certain
window of time that we have toplay that, and I think it played
way too early today. It wasoutside our window of opportunity. So here's
what's ahead on wake up Call.It is five oh five. You're not
getting started late. I actually gotstarted early, so we're restarting. It's

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gonna be a day. The familyof the man accused of killing in La
County sheriff's deputy and Palmdale says hehas paranoid schizophrenia. There are several reports
the twenty nine year old has confessedto the killing. The crash site for
the Stealth Fighter jet that went missingafter the pilot ejected has been found about
two hours north of Joint based Charleston, South Carolina. The pilot who ejected

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is okay, but military officials arewondering how the heck they lost a one
hundred twenty two million dollars fighter jet. A series of modern earthquakes have rattled
the Central Valley. The first wasa four point zero hit at five fifteen
in Stanislaus County last night. TheUS Geological Survey says that was followed by
three point six and four point fourquakes. Lost recordings of the Beatles are

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going to be auctioned off, butthose are going to go for big,
big bucks. At six oh five, it's handle on the news. We're
gonna tell you why you might notbe able to get your favorite Clorox products,
and can we get Karen up?Yes we do. Okay, we're
gonna say good morning to ABC's KarenTravers. Karen, you're gonna have to

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bear with us this morning. We'vegot gremlins all over the place. Sorry
about that, and not your fault. So now we just need you to
entertain and enlighten us and tell usabout. President Biden is making his big
address to the UN General Assembly today. What's he expected to talk about?
Yeah, it's coming up in abouttwo hours. These things always tend to

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slide a little late, so Ikind of don't hold your breath for that
start time because of you, you'reat the liberty of a speaker before you.
But the President, according to WhiteHouse officials, will be issuing a
descents of American leadership abroad, andhe'll reiterate US support for Ukraine. It's
gonna be a false road, adefense of American support for Ukraine, according

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to a White House official, andwhy that is so important not just for
the US national security interests, butthe idea of sovereignty and the sovereign nation
being invaded. And the timing,of course is important because it comes as
there is this fierce debate right nowunderway on Capitol Hill about funding for Ukraine.
Twenty four billion dollars is what theadministration has asked for and what Congress

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is considering. You've got Republicans onthe Senate side who are firmly in favor
of that by partisan support there buta loud group of House Republicans who say,
no, this has to stop.We can't have a blank check and
this is all going to be tiedto the government funding site, which the
deadline is coming up of September thirtieth, So a big amount of pressure right

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now on lawmakers and the President willbe making a case today to a global
audience, but also a message toCapitol Hill. Okay, so all of
the funding that we have sent toUkraine, has that been getting Congressional approval
as it goes or so the Presidentcan't just say, hey, we're going
to send it. They have torun it by Congress each time. Yeah,

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new funding has to be approved byCongress. You know, they can
do a thing where they can happento existing stockpiles of like extra stuff,
but things have to be authorized byCongress. You know. Congress controls the
purse strings, as they like tosay, so if the President wants to
send money, Congress has to signoff on it. So everything so far
has had Congressional approval and has tocontinue with that going forward. This new

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request of twenty four billion dollars,the White House would like to see it
done as soon as possible. Andthat's where this is all getting tricky because
Congress also has to fund the governmentby September thirtieth. They have not yet
done that. By that, youknow, they have to do this every
September at the end of the fiscalyear. Since there will be a short
term agreement of some sort to punt, to kick the can down the road

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a little bit. Whether or notthe Ukraine funding is part of that,
that's what the big conversation is rightnow. And so McCarthy has like an
idea, but the chances of gettingthe full on funding, what are the
chances of that happening. You justmentioned the short term thing which they keep
doing, which is so frustrating thatthey do it every September. I mean,

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I can't think of a time whenthey actually, like you did,
just the way it's supposed to bedone by September thirtieth. There's always just
a short term deal hunted to Novemberor December, and then you know,
the train speeds up so quickly inDecember because nobody wants to be here in
December once the holidays are coming around, and everybody then quickly hurries up.
Or as we've seen in a coupleof years, there actually was a government

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shutdown. So you know, Ithink we have seen some agreements reached amongst
the House Republican caucus that did nothave the funding for Ukraine in there.
That's dead on arrival in the Senatebecause the Senate's controlled by Democrats, and
there were Republicans from the Senate sidewho say we have to have this funding,
we need to keep supporting Ukraine.So it's all going to come to
a boiling point over the next potentiallyten days, two weeks, okay,

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And then Biden takes the stage toreally make his bid that hopefully we'll shore
up support for the funding for Ukraine, all right, and then we'll see
President Zelinsky in Washington on Thursday.He's visiting the White House to meet with
the President, and then we'll begoing to Capitol Hill to make his own
whibbying case to lawmakers. Okay,Karon Travers, thank you so much,
and thanks for baron with us,with our gremlins this morning. That it's

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going to be a day peers isbetter than our good luck. All right,
thank you, Karen. Let's getback to some of the stories coming
out of the KFI twenty four hournews room. A twenty nine year old
man has confessed to fatally shooting inLa County. Sheriff's deputy in Palmdale,
Sheriff Luna says after a swat teamarrived, Kevin Salazar refused to come out
of his home in Palmdale. Finally, early yesterday morning, Salazar surrender.

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All of our resources were entirely committedfor this investigation. Thirty six hours later,
in collaboration with our community, wehave the person that we believe is
responsible for the tragic murder of Ryan. On Saturday evening, Ryan Clinton Brewmer
was shot as he sat in hispatrol suv at a red light. Luna
says tips from the public led themto Salazar. Steve Gregory Knafi news Yeah,

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that's rocker. Marilyn Manson. Hehas pleaded no contest in New Hampshire
to blowing his nose on a videographer. He was sentenced yesterday to twenty hours
of community service. He was alsofined a little more than fourteen hundred dollars
for the offense. In twenty nineteen, the judge agreed to let Manson serve
his community service in California so hecan blow his nose on more of us.

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Teamsters and lawmakers in Arcadia have urgedgoverning Newsom to sign a bill that
would preserve trucking jobs amid the riseof automated trucks Driver Missus dangerous. The
bill requires automated semi trucks to havehuman operators Teamsters Local sixty three Vice president
Robert Terrell says he has safety concernswith automated trucks. Is some machine and

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you have computer glitchen and something cango wrong. Reps from SAGAFTRA, and
WGA joined truckers to support the billout of Teamster's rally in Arcadia yesterday.
The bipartisan back bill passed overwhelmingly inthe Assembly and state Senate in Arcadia.
Blake Trolley k i I news Californiais stewing big oil, but not everyone

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is on board. Republican state SenatorShannon Grove of Bakersfield says the lawsuit is
misguided, just ridiculous. The stateis taking legal action against five oil companies
BP, Chevron, Conico, Phillips, Exxon, Mobil, and Shell,
as well as the trade organization thatrepresents them for their role in perpetuating climate
change. The suit claims oil andgas executives are known for decades about the

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dangers of the fossil fuels they produce, but haven't done anything to fix it.
Grove says big oil isn't going anywhereanytime soon. People use things that
are convenient and cheap and reliable,and oil products are cheap, reliable,
inconvenient. California is seeking a cleanup fund from the oil companies that will

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pay for recovery efforts for future damageof human caused climate change. Researchers in
South Africa say the abundant great whiteshark population has moved from its longtime home
off the country's western Cape province tothe eastern coastline. They say they believe
it has to do with climate changeand the availability of food. Two time

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Super Bowl change and Patrick Mahomes isgetting a record paid a ESPN says Mahomes
has agreed to a restructured deal withthe Kansas City Chiefs that will pay him
more than two hundred ten million dollarsbetween now and twenty twenty six. The
twenty eight year old previously signed aten year, four hundred and fifty million
dollar extension with the Chiefs in twentytwenty. Well, that makes my head

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hurt. It's a lot a lotof money. Hey, they have Halloween
time at Disneyland. If you hadyou know you were thinking about what you
were going to do for the Halloween. But I have sad news for you,
and that is that Space Mountain isgoing to be closed, so they
do this ghost Galaxy overlay usually forthe Halloween season, but this year Space

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Mountain has been closed. It's goingto be closed for five weeks though,
through October twenty five for refurbishment.That's not very happy, do we have
nick? Okay, hey, itNational voter Registration Day. You just need
to take thirty seconds to register tovote, or you can also check to
make sure that your registration is goodto go, like if you've moved,

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or you've turned eighteen, or youhad a name change. And if you
had a name change, maybe thatmeans you got married, so congratulations.
Of course, maybe it means yougot divorced, so I'll take that back.
Okay. Anyway, it's super easyto register to vote. La vote
dot gov. That's la vote dotgov. Do it today. Right now,
let's say good morning to the hostof How to Money. You're on

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KFI, Joel lars Guard. Goodmorning, Joel. Oh there, you
know what, there was a littlepause before you said good morning, and
I like panicked because you don't knowthis. But we're having all kinds of
fun technical issues throughout this morning onthis show. So I'm glad you're here.
Okay, So let's talk about indexfunds real quick. Not all are

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created equal, but before you talkabout not creating them equal, tell us
about like give us the broad overviewfor the the financially challenged, Like me,
what's an index fund? Yeah?So, an index fund is basically
something you can invest inside of.It's something that I really, I really
love as an investing strategy, andit's because it allows you to buy not

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just a single stock invest in justa single company. You're investing in all
the companies, right, And sothere's like the S and P five hundred
is one of the most classic indexfunds where you're tracking specifically the S and
P five hundred, and the feeson those funds have gone down dramatically over

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the years. And when the feegoes down, that means more of the
dollars that you're investing, more ofevery dollar you're investing is going to actually
buy the index fund instead of goingto line somebody else's pockets. So it's
good to see those funds continue tofall. Although I will say you have
to pay attention still because depending onwhere you asked, that will determine what

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the fees are on the index fundthat you're investing in. So if you're
investing in one of my favorites likeVanguard, you're paying point zero three percent,
which is almost nothing. But ifyou're investing with one of the more
expensive companies, you might see somethingten x or twenty x that sort of
cost. So how do you findthat out? Is that information readily available?

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Like I said, I'm I'm sofinancially challenged, which is why I
love talking to you, Like,I just kind of don't really manage my
money that well. I mean,I'm good at saving it, but as
far as like these investments, I'mnot great at this. So how do
you find out? Yeah, sothat's a great question. You should be
able to You should be able toeasily find out how how much that expect

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what that x called an expense ratio, right, And so when you go
back into the back end of yourof your investment account, you should be
able to look up the specific indexfund that you're interested in, and you
should be able to see what theexpense rat show is. You can also
go to a site like Morningstar dotcom and morning Star does a great job

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of rating funds, and so youcan go to Morningstar dot com and you
can type in a fund, you'relike, hmm, I'm not seeing it
on the back end for some reason, or I'm having a hard time.
It's kind of buried. Well,you can go to morning Star and you
can type in different funds and youcan kind of see what morning Star thinks
about those funds, and you canalso kind of see associated with that fund.
And the interesting thing is the morningStar ratings are actually morning Star did

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a study a few years ago andthey said, our ratings are really important.
But guess what's even more important.Low costs. Low cost funds are
more important than a five star morningStar rating. Okay, I'm going to
check that out. Okay, now, let's talk about cell phone carrier promotions
because a lot of people are offeringus some goodies right now. Yes,

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So, the new iPhone, aswe all know at this point, came
out last week, was announced lastweek. It's really expensive. It's like
twelve hundred bucks if you want thesuper fancy new titanium one. And the
carriers now are all about trying toget you in a new iPhone. They
know that if they get you anew iPhone that you are going to be

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a sticky customer. You're going tostick around with them, and so they're
they're creating these enticing promotions. Hey, if you trade in your old phone,
we'll get you into that new iPhonefifteen that you are like, you
desperately want. But the thing is, and the contracts don't exist in the
way that they used to for withwireless providers. But the thing is you

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can still if you really want thebest deal, you're going to sign up
for one of these carrier promotions andthey're going to keep you around because if
you really want the deal, yougot to stick around for twenty four or
thirty six months. And so Iprefer to see people either one not upgrade
or to pay for the full priceof the phone outright, which I know
is very, very very expensive,but it's going to give you the best

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overall low cost for service and phonecombined, going with one of the low
cost carriers like Mint, Visible orGoogle five. Those are three of my
favorites. And then just buying yourphone like you'd buy a laptop or something
like that, right instead of kindof the subsidized weird model where carriers are
trying to, you know, getyou into their spider web instead doing it

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your own way is a better wayto go. Okay, So if you're
going to go buy your own phone, because I usually do, just go
like to the AT and T storeand get my phone there. And you
want to have the low cost carrier? Can you buy it at the Apple
store? Can you buy it onAmazon? Can you kind of where can
you get them? Yes? Soyou can buy it directly through Apple.
You can buy it at the atAmazon as well. You can buy it

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use. You can buy a usedmodel on eBay. I mean, there
are all sorts of places to go. You can go on Facebook, Marketplace,
find somebody who's you know, sellingtheir iPhone twelve and you're saying,
hey, listen, the iPhone twelveis still good enough for me. Let
me get that one firm. Idon't know what they're going for, like
three fifty or something like that,save myself so much money. And then
you sign up for one of thethese really low cost services. I mean,

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I'm on a Mintmobile plan that costsme fifteen dollars a month. And
so when most people are paying,they see these carrier promotions and they're saying,
oh, man, like I reallywant the new phone, and they're
going to give it to me forfree if I trade in this old phone.
But the thing is it's not actuallyfree because you're paying more for service
every single month, and so itattracts a certain kind of customer cracker who

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wants to save the most money overtime. All right, Joel lars Guard,
you're gonna help me save money whetherI like it or not. Thank
you so much for your time today, Joel. Okay, here's what we're
following in the KFI twenty four hournewsroom. The family of the man accused
of killing an Ella County sheriff's deputyin Palmdale says he has paranoid schizophrenia and
had stopped taking his meds. Apparently, the twenty nine year old has confessed

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to the killing of the sheriff's deputyin Palmdale. Over the weekend, the
average price of a gallon of selfserve regular gas in Ella County and in
Orange County has topped six dollars forthe first time since mid October. The
Ella County average is up eleven centsjust today to six oh three. It's
six oz two in Orange County.Elon Musk has hinted at a subscription fee

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for all users of his ex socialmedia platform. He claims this subscription fee
would be the only way to puta stop to bought accounts on the platform.
At six oh five, it's handledon the news. The Republicans have
a plan to avoid a government shutdown. Bill will tell you what it is
and whether it'll work. So Igotta tell you this stinks. We were

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out and about at the Huntington Library, Art Museum, and Botanical Gardens in
San Marino to see the infamous corpseflower. Those are those giant corpse flowers
that when they bloom, they stinkto high heaven. We caught up with
botanical curator Brandon tam who showed usthe gigantic bloom that they have named Stankasaurus

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rex. So this is an amazingplant. This is a Morphrofallus titanum,
which is a very fancy word,a very botanical fancy word. But it's
commonly known as the corp flower.And the reason why it's called the corp
flower because it smells like a deadcarcass of an animal that you may find
in the wild. How exciting.But I have to tell you, so

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it actually bloomed a couple of daysago. So for me. It's kind
of a good thing. Is itdoesn't smell like rotting flesh, right,
No, exactly, but it's stillis just fabulous. How how tall is
this? Like eight feet? Yeah? So we actually we measured this on
a daily basis and it measured inat ninety three point seventy five inches on
the day of the bloom, soquite quite tall. Truly an amazing specimen.

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And if you look at it,I mean just the design on it,
the pattern, the smell, thefragrance, the size of it.
I mean, all of these areatrophies that fascinate human being. The fragrance,
I think it's funny that you callit a fragrance. Okay, So
how often do these things bloom?Yeah, so they bloom once every two
to four years in cultivation, butin the wild once every four to six
years. But thankfully, because we'rein a greenhouse in the conservatory, we're

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able to give it ideals environments,give it a fertilizer to bloom more often,
so that our visitors can see thisamazing plant more often because it blooms
so infrequently. Okay, And wherein the wild would you find it?
Yes, you can find them endemicto only Smatcha in Asia, so you
can only find it in that regionof the world and nowhere else. And
somebody had the idea, let's getthis big, stinky thing and bring it

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over to the United exactly exactly.There's something about human fascination like things that
are stinky, things that are big, and these are just one example.
Okay, So speaking of stinky,this is the other corpse flower that just
recently bloom. What's left of it? Correct, And you can see along
the base I'm going to kind ofpoint to it, or you can point
to it. Yeah, that's theactual flower. Yeah, so right down

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here, these are the actual flowershere. So at the very bottom these
are the female flowers, and atthe very top those are male flowers.
So this plant has both male andfemale flowers flowers on the same structure here,
and that's what makes it so unique. But the female flowers are only
open for the first twenty four hours, and then the male pollen after that
twenty fourth hour will then start todehess pollen. And the reason why they

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flower at different times so that itdoesn't self pollinate to increase genetic diversity.
Okay, so then it starts thewhole process over again, it goes dormant,
and then in a couple of yearsit's going to come up again,
and I want it. There's oneof the really cool thing. It's called
the corpse flower because if it tracksbugs and stuff that thinks it's a rotting
corpse. And if you look atthis, it's sort of the color of
like something dead, like a deadanimal or something. Yeah, exactly,

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it's the color of red. It'skind of showing that the dead kane carcass
of an animal. And this isgreat because the offspring of flies and sweat
bees will try to lay their eggs, so they have a source of food
for that hatching of their offspring.Okay, so far this year we've had
three blooms. Correct. How manyof these corps flowers do you have in
here? Yeah? So the Huntingtonhas around forty three in our collection,

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so quite a bit. And ourwhole goal was, because they bloom so
infrequently, we want it as manyas we could so that we have at
least one bloom a year. Sincethe timing of this is very short,
you can only see it for abouttwenty four hours and after that starts to
fade away. A very short periodof time. So by having forty three
in a collection, it enables usto have at least one a year and
even more, just like this yearwe had a total of three. Okay,
and we might have a snake preview. We don't know yet because it

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gets all confusing for my little brain. But it can either turn into a
bloom or it can turn into thatwhich looks more like a tree. Right,
So exactly if we take a lookat that, that's actually people think
it's a tree, but it's actuallyone single leaf. This entire structure,
this being the petio and the verytop being leaf lit. But botanically speaking,
this is one single leaf and nota tree. Okay, And then

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we have to show you one otherthing. And we're going to come about
twenty feet away and show you anotherone of the Yeah, a morpha phallus
titanium yep? Is that how yousay? Exactly? Yeah, this is
another one. And you don't knowyet if it's going to be a bloom
or a leaf. Correct, Wedon't know if it's going to be a
leaf or it's gonna be a flower. We don't know because it's hard to

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tell at the moment. But youknow, that's then amazing thing about these
clients is that you'll never know untila little closer to the actual cycle of
it emerging out. Okay, soin a couple of weeks, you'll know
which way it's going to go.And if it does turn into a bloom,
wouldn't that be an extra treat.If it does turn into a bloom,
how long would it be before thatone blooms. It would take about
a month and a half, abouta month and a half, and that's

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probably around the cycle that we'd expect. Okay, so stay tuned. You
may be hearing from us more thatthere's another corpse flower at the Huntington.
Thank you so much, Brendon damThis has been so educational and not too
stinky, thankfully, thankfully. Okay, I've been hearing about the corpse flower
for years, but I had neveractually gone to see it. So it
was really really interesting and if youget a chance, I highly recommend that

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you do go see it now.During the interview, I was pointing the
things and having him show me somethings, So we wanted to make sure
that we make that available for you. And you can check out my social
my Instagram and also my Facebook buton my Instagram at Amy k King and
also the KFI Instagram at KFI Amsix forty. That's going to be posted

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today so you can check it out. It's really kind of cool and we'll
let you know if that new growthdoes go on to bloom soak you can
see it yourself. Otherwise you're justgonna have to wait until next year to
see the famous corpse flower. Let'sget back to some of the stories coming
out of the KFI twenty four hournewsroom. A California Highway Patrol officer has
been involved in a shooting with multiplesuspects in Compton. Police responded to a

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call of shots fired at eleven thirtylast night. CHP says people at the
scene smashed into the HP officer's carafter trying to run over an officer who
was outside the vehicle. That's whenthe officer fired. The suspects took off.
No arrests have been made. Newsbrought to you by Sempers Solaris dot
com. Sheriff Luna says a twentynine year old man from Palmdale has confessed

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to the deadly ambush of a deputy. When the sheriff was asked about a
motive. During a press conference yesterday, he said, I think everybody here
wants to know the answer to that. I have no doubt our homicide investigators
will get to the bottom of whysomething that makes absolutely no sense occurred.
Kevin Salazar was arrested at his homeearly yesterday morning after an hour's long standoff.

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Luna says numerous weapons were found insidethe home and the suspected getaway car
was parked outside. Gas prices inSouthern California are rising even as demand for
fuel is dropping. The Auto Clubof Southern California's Dug Shoop says several factors,
including hurricane season, are contributing tothe higher prices. This is a
time of year when things really eatup, so if a major storm impacts

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the East Coast or the Gulf ofMexico, that of course could cause prices
all across the country to move higher. Drivers in La and Orange Counties are
paying more than six dollars a gallonon average for regular unleaded fuel. The
Auto Club says people should try toavoid excess idling and make sure tires are
full to help save gas. AJewish misuza in the er break room at

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Saint Joseph's in Orange County is meantto help overwhelmed workers leave stress at the
door so that when you go homeyou can actually have mindful rest. Saint
Joseph's Ear medical director Jim Lee sayshe pitched the idea to a sister on
the hospital board installed by a rabbi. Sister Sweeney's Catholic. I am a
agnostic, and it doesn't matter whatfaith you belong to, says The ear

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is as slammed as it was duringthe height of the pandemic. It kind
of also came from a little bitof ted lasts. So that tattered belief
sign where you walk out the door. On top the sign, a rabbi
Thursday blessed and installed the MISUSA inOrange. Corbin Carson, k if I
News. Right now, let's saygood morning to ABC's Jim Ryan. Jim,
my parents bought me a fake rolexin China, and apparently that was

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not a very good thing to do. What was it called rollos If it's
ro olox and it's clearly not arolex, and they're probably okay, that's
that's a dupe, Okay, butthat's not an actual counterfeit. Okay,
So, but I did buy afake Kate Spade on the streets of downtown
New York City. That's not sogood if you if you knowingly bought it
and it looks just like a realKate Spade, that's a problem now,

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or the police can come and knockon your door. Probably not, but
you should know that you're helping tocontribute to massive losses to the retail industry.
The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Developmenthas said that fake goods make up
about three point three percent of worldtrade, So three point three percent of

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the goods that are purchased and soldout there are not what they purport to
be, about five hundred and ninebillion dollars, including that Kate Spade purse
that you bought in New York City. Well, I will stay on my
defense. Did it said Kate Spade? And who am I to tell if
it's not Kate Spade even though it'ssitting there on the street. Well,

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that's that's your big tip off whereit's being sold, how much it's being
sold for. A cake Spade goesfor what four hundred, five hundred bucks.
I think for some of the particularpurses. If you bought yours for
thirty or forty bucks tops, thenyou know that it's a fake. You
know where it's being sold on thestreet, how much it's being sold for.
You can look at the stitching andlook at the label, you know,

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the little shields on there, tosee if they look as they're supposed
to look. And very often youcan spot those fakes. And again I
mean purchasing a fake good like thator a fake merchandise. There's a bad
thing counterfeit. But counterfeits are differentfrom dupes. Amy. Dupes are the
things that are being promoted so heavilyon places like TikTok. Influencers are purchasing

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dupes now the dozen, say KateSpade. It might look like a Kate
Spade, but it's going to costa whole lot less. And a lot
of folks on social media see purchasingthings like that as a way of filming
their nose at Corporate America, youknow, or or or turning their back
or making a statement about high fashion. So there is a difference between dupes

(28:06):
and counterfeits. It's counterfeits that arecosting so much money and so many jobs.
By the way, yeah, okay, so if it's if it looks
too good to be true, itis most likely Okay. So and I
will say I'm going to say,in my defense, this was over twenty
years ago, and uh we wereon a little tourist you know, our
tourist trip to New York City liketoday, I would never buy a fake

(28:26):
paid Kate Spade knowingly. So I'mwondering, though, how many people are
buying fakes or dupes unknowingly because somuch is online. I mean, how
do you know? How do youhave that authenticity? And that's why this
is still this is why a storynow because with the with the surgeon,

(28:47):
online merchandise or online retailing, thisis seeing a major increase. The incidence
of counterfeiting has grown like tenfolds sincethe year two thousand. What's happened since
then? Amazon has happened, youknow, a whole host of other smaller
online retailers have happened, and it'svery difficult for them to police every single

(29:11):
seller that they have on their site. So that's where this all is coming
from. So it's impossible to tellme that exactly is being lost because of
this whole thing, But it's onlinetrade that has really generated this whole cottage
industry and in faiths and frauds.Does Amazon try to make sure that things
are authentic? It does, andthey try to vet the sellers of the

(29:36):
products that they're offering on their website, and so do some of the other
big retailers. Like that used tobe up to the retailers, or to
the merchandisers themselves, or to theproducers of these items. So let's say
the genuine Kate Spade company, they'revery concerned about their trademark and about their
brand identity, and so they havewhole staffs of people who go out and

(29:56):
find these things either online or atrecture jobs or they're having to be sold
and try to rain that in.But a lot of those companies, those
merchandisers don't have the resources now.They're barely holding on after the pandemic.
So not only did did the pandemicincrease online merchandizing or online retail, it

(30:18):
also took away some of the profitsto the legitimate company, so they can't
really afford to police those things now. Okay, and then one last this
is how you're you're talking about howthe companies are trying to protect their you
know, their revenues and their productsand that kind of stuff. As a
consumer, how do you protect yourselfto make sure that you don't get a
bogus product when you think you're buyingthe real things. Well, again,

(30:40):
the price. You know that theCakespade you purchased there probably on Canal Street,
New York. It was undoubtedly muchless than it would have been otherwise.
Look at the seller, look atthe products origin online. You can
trace that back and see who theseller was and whether this is a legitimate
person. You know, go intothe seller's background and look out, you

(31:00):
know, fake reviews. Or anotherway, if some product has sixty or
seventy reviews, start looking down atthe number fifty or number fifty one,
fifty two. A lot of timesthe review there, if it's a big,
glowing review, probably has nothing todo with the product that it's associated
with. Ah, Okay, solet the buyer beware. I won't ever
I promise I will never buy afake Kate Spade again. Okay, all

(31:23):
right, thank you so much foryour sister in law, by the way,
who who purchased a Kate Spade pursefor my wife? Right, yeah,
her sister and my wife loved it, except it wasn't right color.
She takes it back to the storeand says, hey, can I get
a different color in this? Theysaid, sure, if it were a
real Kate Spade. They haven't spokensince. Okay. So, not only

(31:47):
can it damage the economy, itcan damage your familial relationships, Rick families.
That's right, all right, Thankyou so much for your time,
Jim Ryan, appreciate it, Jamie. Let's get back to some of the
stories coming out of the kf Itwenty four hour newsroom. Free Field has
been found in rural South Carolina duringa search for a missing F thirty five
fighter jet. Military officials say thejet disappeared after a mishap in the air.

(32:08):
Its pilot on a training mission wasforced to eject Sunday. He landed
safely, but the Marines couldn't findwhere the plane came down. ABC's Andi
Field says the jet, assigned toJoint Base Charleston, was on autopilot when
the pilot ejected over the weekend.The debris was found yesterday about two hours
away from the base. A convictedserial killer who admitted murdering five men in

(32:29):
La and Santa Monica has been chargedwith killing another man in prison. The
inmate was strangled in February at theprison in Kern County. He'd been sentenced
in La to life for aggravated sexualassault of a child. Two people have
been found sleeping in a home theyallegedly broke into in San Bernardino. They've
been arrested. The homeowner saw theintruders on his security cameras over the weekend

(32:51):
and called the Sheriff's department. Thepair found inside were arrested for conspiracy to
commit a crime, vandalism, andburglary. Where are the Three Bears when
you need them? Ahoimetis? Itis international talk like a Pirate Day.
It was created by two friends asa joke in nineteen ninety five. The
days become a beloved holiday that letseveryone channel their inner Jack Sparrow. The

(33:13):
friends came up with the idea duringa racquetball game and say it's all about
having fun, embracing create hitot creativity, and being silly. I can go
for that, especially after today.This is KFI and KOST HD two Los
Angeles, Orange County live from theKFI twenty four hour newsroom, and you
can tell by the way today wentthat we are definitely live. I'm Amy

(33:37):
King. This has been your wakeupCall. Thanks for hanging with us this
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