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May 28, 2025 30 mins

GitHub Copilot has 15 million users—more than Cursor and Windsurf combined. So why does it feel like they're losing the AI coding race?


Last week at Microsoft Build, I interviewed the CEO of GitHub Thomas Dohmke to find out.


I wanted to know: Is their huge existing user base a blessing or a curse? And will their latest launch—an autonomous coding agent built into GitHub—let them retake the lead? Watch this episode of AI & I to find out


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To hear more from Dan Shipper:

Timestamps:

Introduction (00:00:38)

  • Copilot’s place in the AI coding agent race (00:07:40)

  • Inside the product decisions behind Copilot’s new agent (00:10:42)

  • How Dohmke thinks about shaping Copilot’s personality (00:16:18)

  • How GitHub supports both AI-native developers and legacy enterprise users (00:20:29)

Dohmke’s predictions for the future of software development (00:26:57)

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