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February 5, 2023 64 mins

In this week's episode, Chad and Kelley talk to Natalie Lue, the author of The Joy of Saying No. Natalie is a writer, speaker, podcaster, artist and founder of the longest running self-help blogs in the world, the Baggage Reclaim and the Baggage Reclaim Sessions podcast. Her mission is to help people understand how their emotional baggage is interfering with their ability to live their happiest life and live authentically. Her advice has been featured in the New York Times, Forbes, NPR, USA Today, and the BBC, among many others. In today's episode we speak with Natalie about why we people please and how it's not really about other people but rather a way to control how we're perceived, how our childhood shapes our understanding of how we should live up to other people's expectations, the five different types of people pleasers and understanding which one you are, and improving self-worth, speaking your mind, making decisions that are aligned and living your most authentic life.

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