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September 5, 2025 65 mins

This week Kail sits down with creator and recovery counselor Jordy Cray for a candid Teen Mom deep dive you won’t hear anywhere else. They unpack Jordy’s first-time appearance on Teen Mom: The Next Chapter and Jordy’s honest take on Teen Mom dads; past and present. Kail opens up about leaving the show, why streaming may be the franchise’s future, and how growing up on reality TV shaped her life.

Jordy also shares his sobriety story and gives some insight into what actually helps people recover, why “rehab romances” are risky, and how working in treatment changed his content. They also hit pop-culture hot buttons and the internet’s obsession with reality-TV deep dives.

For more of Jordy follow him on IG and Tik Tok

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