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September 10, 2025 78 mins

Julia is joined by bestie of the pod Michaela Okland to explore the practice of chosen celibacy, from its ancient history to its resurgence in modern culture. The girlies share their own celibacy journeys, revisit iconic historical figures who opted out of sex and marriage, and discuss the radical 4B movement gaining attention in South Korea, where women are walking away from men entirely. Digressions include the karmic power of The Melting Pot, graduating from Men Are Trash discourse, and dating after grief and loss. 

This episode was produced and researched by Julia Hava and edited by Livi Burdette. 

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Are antidepressants making you asexual? | The Spectator

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Boston Marriages: Romantic but Asexual Relationships Among Contemporary Lesbians

Chaste Marriage In The Middle Ages

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Sex-positive feminism had its moment – and now it has been replaced by voluntary celibacy | Arwa Mahdawi | The Guardian

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The 4B movement: envisioning a feminist future uwith/in a non-reproductive future in Korea

The last of Albania's 'sworn virgins'

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