What happens when the life you were supposed to have… disappears?
Jen Hatmaker joins Kate Bowler for a conversation about faith, divorce, and the slow art of healing. After the collapse of her marriage and being pushed out of the evangelical world, Jen had to figure out how to live again—how to co-parent, pay bills, go to therapy, and mother herself after decades of being the “pastor’s wife.”
They talk about:
What it means to lose a marriage, a career, and a community—at once
The weight of being a “good” evangelical woman
Codependency, caretaking, and letting your kids have their pain
The deep joy of discovering you can rebuild from scratch
This is for the people who are learning how to live when the story changes. A conversation about grief, grace, and not doing it alone.
Show Notes:
Awake by Jen Hatmaker – her latest book on rebuilding a life after loss
Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day! by Kate Bowler – meditations for the ups, downs, and in-betweens
The Preacher’s Wife by Kate Bowler
For the Love podcast with Jen Hatmaker
Jen Hatmaker's book club – a delightfully honest reading community
Come hang out in our favorite little corner of the internet, Kate's Substack.
Check out the last time Jen joined Kate on the Everything Happens podcast!
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