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David Kipping studies exoplanets and the search for life beyond Earth, but he's grounded about what we actually know versus what we hope for. He's spent his career looking for moons around distant planets, while most astronomers thought it was a waste of time.
In this conversation, we unpack why finding microbial life on Mars would actually create more questions than answers, how the "doomsday argument" suggests humanity has less time than we think, and why competition might be both the driver of technological progress and the cause of our extinction.
00:00 Introduction
03:14 How rogue planets drift through darkness
06:09 Earth's billion-year countdown to doom
09:46 Why bigger stars blow our minds
12:21 What came before the Big Bang?
16:43 The haunting question: why does anything exist?
21:06 Life appeared fast but we can't recreate it
26:13 Could aliens hide under Jupiter's moons?
29:14 How we actually detect distant planets
34:20 The challenge of confirming alien life
39:46 The Fermi Paradox gets worse with Mars life
44:18 Accelerating toward our own extinction
50:45 Our obsession with the present over survival
56:26 What a trillion-dollar NASA could achieve
1:00:12 Ancient civilisations on Earth before us?
1:04:38 Why space hoaxes thrive
1:13:26 Debating alien spacecraft theories
1:22:38 Could we nuke a comet to survive?
1:27:28 Mars versus Moon colonisation
1:30:07 Sci-fi that gets the science right
1:38:06 How talking science improves research
1:42:21 What David wants to be remembered for
1:44:21 What finding aliens would really look like
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.