February 10, 2025 • 67 mins
Roz slides down the banister just in time to welcome the hilarious comedian, actress, and Emmy Award winning writer, Rosebud Baker! Spirits gather around as the two discuss a haunted Toys “R” Us, spirit babies, and Rosebud’s unexpected encounter with a medium at a comedy club!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really
sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I said, I los Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me
(00:29):
Roz and welcome to Bostood by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
I got to talk to rosebud Baker, who is such
a hilarious comedian. She is a writer on SNL and
(00:52):
she has a new Netflix special coming out called mother Load.
Look out for that. She is such a good comedian
and she has some stories. Oh my god, this is
like perfect episode, I really think. So it's a great
one because we got some good stories, we get a
little real and we laugh. What Morgage ask for? Oh,
(01:15):
speaking of laughter, something that I love to make people do.
And you know, constantly I'm doing comedy whether you realize
it or not. I am working on a lot of
dates right now, and I'm trying. I'm trying to get everywhere.
(01:36):
I want to go to all fifty states in America,
and trust me, I want to go beyond America to
trust me, I wouldn't mind a little break. So I'm
working on dates. So make sure you're paying attention to
my social media. Everything's on Instagram at ros Hernandez. Also,
speaking of being a comedian, I am nominated for a
(02:01):
queert Award, which is a great honor. It's a great
LGBTQ publication called the Queer Teas and you are allowed
to vote for it every single day, and that voting
is open until February twenty fifth on Queer Tea's website.
(02:23):
If you're unsure how to spell it or whatever, just
go to my link tree, which we'll have a link
to it there so I can say I'm an award
winning comedian and the people I'm up against, oh my god,
some of my biggest enemies. Actually, I think a couple
of people that have been on the show, probably I
(02:44):
don't know, vote for me, We're vote for them, They're
all great whatever, whatever, Just you know, vote, very very important. Okay.
Let me give you a story real quick. This one
comes from a listener named Emma Emirates. A few years ago,
my boyfriend and I moved into a house in the
(03:05):
historic district of a mountain town in Colorado. Built in
nineteen ten, the house came with its own piece of history,
a hauntingly beautiful photo of the original owner's three sons,
which still hangs in our hallway. At first we thought
it was a quirky keepsake, but when we decided to
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put the photo away, the house seemed to retaliate. It
started subtly. Fire alarms blared when we stood underneath them
without cause. We called a maintenance professional to check them out,
but they couldn't find anything wrong. Then came the voices
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and whistles. Whispers and faint whistling would float up from downstairs.
We'd go to check it out, but no one was
ever there. Friends began to notice strange things too. One
of them watched our storm door open and close repeatedly,
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as if an unseen hand was testing it. She stepped
outside to check for wind, but the air was completely still.
The most unsettling moment happened while I was sitting on
the porch reading. I heard the unmistakable sound of footsteps
stomping through the living room. Thinking it was our dog.
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Because I was the only one home, I went to check,
only to find him asleep at my feet. Safe to say,
I ran outside to collect myself for a few minutes.
Then there was the furnace. Every summer, we'd turn off
the heat for the season as fall approached. One October,
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our maintenance guy came to switch it back on. A
Few mornings later, I woke up to a bone shilling house.
It was barely fifty degrees inside. We called him back
and he was visibly annoyed. He says, who keeps turning
the furdus off? My boyfriend and I just stared at
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each other. Neither of us even knew how to access
the switch. It was always handled by the landlord. He
told us this was the second time someone had physically
flipped the lever to the off position. It's not easy
to do, he said, it takes some effort. In the end,
he had to padlock the switch to keep it from
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being tampered with. Strange occurrences continued until I decided to
follow some advice I heard on Living for the Dead.
Oh my god, I was on that show. One night.
I stood in the living room, sage in hand, fed
up as fuck, and I said, I see you. I
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respect your space, but I am not okay okay with this.
I'm here to take care of your home, and I
need you to leave us alone. That same night, I
also agreed to put the photo of the boys back
on display as long as they left us alone. Since then,
the house has been quiet, eerily so, and every now
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and then I catch myself glancing at that old photo
completely weirded out. Thank you, Emma God. I love a
good ghost story. All right, let's talk to the hilarious
rosebud Baker and with the show. Rosebud Roz, thanks for
(06:52):
being here.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're a New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I am.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Hang on a second, you work at us at all?
I was just watching that documentary and I saw you
in it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I was running from the cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Did you see me running that Peacock documentary? Which was great?
You know? I put it on and I was like,
are they gonna like go from the beginning?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, but no, like.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Focuses on, like there's an episode just about the writers,
and that's where I saw you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I spent the entire year last year hiding from that
camera crew. I was like, I'm not answering questions about
my job that I currently have on camera.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It seems stressful.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I was like, I'm not doing this. This feels like
a trap.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, every time I have an SNL person here,
I asked them if thirty Rock is haunted, they always say, no,
what's your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I would say haunted, Uh, by my own personal demons,
I would say. I would say people's personal demons are enough.
I think if a ghost walked into thirty Rock, they'd
be like, it feels a little crowded.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, They're like, take me to a farmhouse in the
middle of nowhere so I can possess it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I can really make an impact.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, yes, this is too much. Too many personalities, too
much conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, there's too many internal conversations happening.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, you know that's why I wonder when it's completely quiet,
there's nobody there. I bet you a security guard has
got a story. Oh yeah, you know, somebody like that.
Not the people that are like, shit, well I got
a deadline, I gotta.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, yeah, somebody. I mean, I wonder if thirty Rock
has ever been completely quiet, To be honest, that's really
the question, because I've never seen that building quiet, right,
and I'm there until early morning.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow. You know I have so much respect for people
that are you're you're doing this season right? Yes? Yes, good.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's fun. It's fun. I think honestly, I think part
of why it's so good is that I'm no longer
writing on the sketch side. Okay, I moved over to
weekend updates love it, which I God bless the sketch writers.
They are so good to what they do. I spent
three years in the sketch writing, and I still have
no idea how it works. Like I had sketches on
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and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing,
and I don't know what I'm doing here, and then
over the summer I reached out and I was like,
I don't there's no real reason for me to be
on the sketch side. I write single jokes.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Right right right. That's that's how I feel, too, Like
I like a joke, yes, and I feel like there's
some good ones these days on that show. Congratulations, good job,
thank you. Gee pushes the envelope, which I appreciate in
a way that's not like the gross way, you know,
(09:48):
like it's like still fun walk in that line.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, it feels fun and funny and it's not it's
not just like That's what I love about it is
it's not Edgy just for Edgy's sake, you know, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Good job, thank you. Hey, what about ghosts?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What about ghosts?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Are you Okay? Here's the annoying thing I say almost
every single damn episode. We never hear New York ghost
stories ever. Oh from my guests.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, New York is a very haunted city.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't know why these people they come on my show,
they never have a ghost Like I'll have people that
live in New York or spend time in New York,
but their stories will not be from actual New York City, right,
every once in a while, but not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah for my liking, I have some very intense I mean,
most of my experience with like the metaphysical is through mediums.
Hell yeah, mediums who have literally accosted me on the
street where like apparently I'm dripping with corpses.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, so they just come up to you and they go,
I'm so sorry, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They literally will be like, I'm I'm so sorry about
what happened to your friend, or they'll literally say exactly
different people that I know who have died.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
How many times does this happen?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh? Millions? Are you kidding me? I are you serious. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's
just part of my life. But death has been a
major theme.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I lost my sister years years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now I've heard you talk about yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And then I have, and then i'm I'm a recovering alcoholic.
So I have any ton of friends?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh my god, yeah in two days, ten years.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh my god, congratulations, that's amazing. Yeah. So you know,
we know a lot of people who die. Yeah, sadly,
but tons of my friends gone gone with the wind.
And I'm comics, so those comics they die, Yeah, they
die young. And so yeah, I'm just I just really
am riddled with dead bodies. Apparently they're just following me around.
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They like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know, what's funny that I always say, my dead
people not interested? So it's a compliment.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What do you mean they're not They're not around like
you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You've talked to mediums and they they say goodbye, and
that's the end of the story. I go, no further comments,
that's it, weird, no comment. I go to psychics. I
accost psychics. I'm the opposite. I go up to them
and say, is there a dead body around me and
they say, I'm sorry, babe.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, no right, and you're like, can you make one up.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Exactly, just say something. Did you have a grandma that
does just say something? Just make it up?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Actually I have had them where they're like, oh, I'm
seeing some like they start describing someone. I'm like, that's
not I never Yeah, I don't talk to people that
look like that. Right, Okay, So give me an example
of one of these stories. Somebody comes up to you.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So there was one time I was at a comedy club.
It was a New York comedy club, and there was
a girl that was working there who came up and
was like like immediately I saw her and I thought,
oh my god, is this someone that I met while
I was drinking? Who I like, did something terrible to
you know what I mean? Because the way that she
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reacted to me was like she remembered something that I
couldn't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
She was in the audience, and you really.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
She came back in the green room. I'd never seen
her in the club before. She comes back in the
green room to bring somebody a drink, and she saw
me and she went like like she had like a
visceral physical reaction to me, and I was like, oh no,
And I thought, okay, well, I'll introduce myself to her
and maybe i'll like remember something. You know, when you
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drink a lot, you're like maybe I blacked out, and
I really like said something horrible or did something terrible,
you know, I had that feeling of like, oh no.
So I was like, let me just introduce myself and
see if I can put the pieces together here. And
she shook my hand, but she like didn't want to
touch me, and I was like, I was like, I'm
so sorry. I was like, are you okay? Because she
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just seemed fucked up, and so I asked if she
was all right and she was like, I I'm so sorry.
I just I need a second. She like left, and
then she came back and she was like, I have
to tell you this. I'm I'm so sorry about what
happened to your sister. And I was like, oh, did
you have did you have a family member where it
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happened to them as well or something, you know what
I mean? And she was like, no, we've never met before.
I don't I don't know you, but I you know,
I'm so sorry about what happened to your sister. And
I'm a medium and I've just kind of started to
open myself up to this. And at this point I'm going, Ah,
she's kind of like, it's giving scam artist.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I've heard it on podcasts. I've heard you talk about it.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah you have, I have. Oh you're saying that she
she listened to That's what I was thinking, right, But
then she started to describe things about it that no
one had heard and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
No one knew that's that's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And I was like, oh, this is fucked. Like she
knew her middle name, she knew how this had happened
to her, like the details of it and how she
had gotten to the hospital, and how like the way
that my mom had told me and stuff. And then
she started talking about like things that she wanted to
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say and how she always she was like, she's always
on your right arm. And it's so funny that she
because she mentioned that. But I had always had these
moments where I was like waiting for the subway, or
I was like falling or something, and I felt like
something from my right hand like bring me back, really
in a way that I had never mentioned out loud.
Because it made me feel insane, right, And that was
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when I went, Okay, this feels like legit, you know,
this feels like she knows what she's talking about. The
weird thing then, was that I never saw her at
the club again, Like she wasn't real. Other people were there,
they saw this conversation happen, but I never saw her
again at the club. So I was like, this feels
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like a weird uh. I mean, maybe she had a
psychotic break. I have no idea, but she wasn't just
like a messenger. So yeah, it felt like a messenger.
And it felt like like I had an explanation for
why I always felt this feeling, this weird feeling, like
as if I was holding someone's hand while I was
like waiting for the subway or waiting for a bus,
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or like I would just feel sometimes at night, I
would feel like someone was holding my hand while I
was going to sleep, you know what I mean. Like,
so that kind of felt like, oh, this feels like
a message, yeah someone else.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know, when she told you this, were you like
tell me more or were you just like okay? And
then like, how did it get to the point where.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She I just kind of going, well, I just kind
of I'm sure. I was like, wait, how do you
I was like, did you hear me say this? On
a pot? I would ask questions, you know, I was
asking questions and stuff like that. And this happened a
long time ago now, so it's hard for me to
really remember how the conversation went specifically, but I remember
being skeptical for a good portion of the conversation until
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she said that thing about my right handoo, and then
I was like, Okay, this is now spooky, you know.
And then once she said something that really landed with me,
I kind of didn't want to talk anymore, which is
so odd because it's like you're so curious, you know,
and you sort of want to test their knowledge a
little bit, of course, but then once they say something
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that's like for real, you're like, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like, did you have to go on stage after that?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah? Oh god, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's probably why she got fired. She kept going up
to comedians.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And sorry about what happened to your dad.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
People are crying, and then they have to go up
on stage.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't think. I honestly don't know if she got
fired or if she left, but I know I never
saw her again.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's a pretty fun one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Wait, so does it happen other times? Though?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh my god, can you tell us all of them?
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So okay, it's been so long since I thought about
any of this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's what I'm here for, is to bring out these memories.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm like, okay, So I know that at one point
I I contacted a medium on my own to speak
to them, right. I think it was after I met
this girl, right, because I had never thought about reaching
out to a medium before that, but I reached out
to a medium and I was like, I want to
hear what else is out there, what else they've got?
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And it was really a nothing burger call, Like I
remember calling this medium and she started talking about how
my sister was and almost compulsive right where like and
on the other side in the spirit world, she wanted
to experience things that we were experiencing because she died
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so young. So she was like, I'm I'm I'm hearing
something about chocolate chip cookies. And I was like, yeah,
I got nothing for you. I don't know what you're
talking about. But she was like, something about chocolate chip cookies.
And wanting to eat like a whole thing of chocolate
chip cookies. And I was like, okay, well yeah, cool,
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I'll make note of that. And then we hung up
and I was like that sucked and I just wasted
my money whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
In there, I mean I've done.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I put in a lot of time with these people,
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But I called my sister like the next day her
twin to be like, oh, I you know, I contacted
a medium to see if I could talk to Graham.
And before I could mention any of this to her,
my sister like uugh. She like picked up someone and
was like oh and I was like what and she goes, nothing,
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I just had a shitty night last night. She's like,
I came home from this party and I just like
She's like, I was there, it was great, but I
left the party early and I came home and I
just ate a full batch, like a vat of chocolate
chip cookies by myself, like before I could even like
think about it. And now I woke up and I'm
all puffy and I feel like shittah. And I was like,
what do you talk? I was like, okay, I gotta
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pause you right there, because I literally spoke to a
medium yesterday who was saying that Graham sometimes will like
enter your body basically, and if you're ever overeating, it's
because she wants to like experience like physical life again
in some way. And I was like, and I don't know,
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I'm so sorry you didn't ask to hear this, but
she did bring up a vat of chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And that was the first time I ever really scared
my family with this stuff, you know, where I like
specifically where I brought like metaphysical stuff to my family
and they were like, please don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
What kind of like religion or beliefs.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So we grew up like Episcopalian, which is like Catholicism
light right, Okay, but I never I mean, like we
stopped going to church when I was like nine, okay
around then, and I just I don't really I wasn't
like into church.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm very into like God and the concept of God
and spirituality, and I kind of like take a little
bit from everything. But we're not like a super religious family.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay. Yeah, But when it comes to like paranormal stuff,
was that ever believed or talked about in the house.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, my mom got sober when I was like seventeen,
and I remember her getting kind of freaky with it,
what do you mean, Like I remember her getting kind
of like just into spirituality and into different like paranormal things.
And then after my sister died, it was like really
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like she felt like her spirit everywhere and she felt
like she would have these moments where like at the funeral,
like a butterfly landed on my mom's hand and just
stayed there the entire funeral, you know. So like that
kind of thing started to like creep into my psychology
where I started kind of going, oh, that's cool, that's interesting. Yeah,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's something I was raised with, is like the signs,
like yes, like my grandfather's funeral, like the clouds parted
and there was a rainbow. Yes, So that's him.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm why I like it. Why not,
I'm open to it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's to me. I think maybe he came out as
gay and the afterlife. Yeah he said, you know what,
it's everything up here and then born this way, We're
down for whatever up here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah hell yeah yeah. I think a major way into
spirituality for me was when I started getting into astrology.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That was astrology. Okay. Astrology is something that at this
point I should know about, but I just don't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay, but it's a little more complicated then it's a
tough thing to kind of pick up.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, it's like learning a language, and I just you know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It really is not that smart.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, but I love people that know about it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
What is your son?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I know I'm a Libra. I always forget what
the other two are. I mean, I had you and
your moon. Yeah. I've had several mulleted polyamorous people asked
me what time I was born? And I have had
that text message exchange with my mother, yes, many times. Right,
And my mom will get a text and I'll say
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what time was I born? She goes for the last
time nine pm? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And then they take that information it's and you don't
really care about it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, and then they say you're at this and you're
with that, and right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah. I kind of dropped astrology a little bit, to
be honest, but it was a way in for me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, and I still think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Listen. I think whatever people connect with great for them.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. I also feel like anytime you feel like things
are outside of your control and you can lean on
something else, go for it.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Mm hmmm. Crystals you ever get into that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No. I like them. They're in my house, yeah, but
I don't like lay on a floor and line them
up on my you know, pelvis.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I oh get a.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
There's no returns at crystal stores.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, which is.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Very unfortunate because I have made so many purchases at
a crystal.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Stone and they're so expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
They're gorgeous. They don't do anything, in my opinion, but
they're nice to me. It's like a nice reminders. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
To me, they're like spiritual organic script like skin cream.
I'm like, I need the chemicals. It's not going to
do anything unless it has chemicals in.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It, right, right, right, right? I know, I know, but like,
and that's the worst thing is if I'm on if
I'm traveling someplace and I see a crystal storm, like
let me just poke my head in, yeah, and then
I end up with this forty five pound hunk of like,
you know, pink stone. Yeah, and now I'm stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, you have book ends for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I've got to book ends, and a lot of on
read books. Wait, do you have any other stories about psychics?
I'm obsessed with these. Okay, So I love hearing testimonials
of psychics working, yes, but I also like hering when
they don't work too.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah. I okay, this isn't a psychic story, but it's
what's coming to mind.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Give me whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There's like a book called Spirit Babies okay that my
friend told me about, and she told me about it
after I'd had a miscarriage, and she was like, you
have to read Spirit Babies because there's this idea that
when you have a miscarriage, it's because like it's like
the idea that spirits are sort of looming around, you
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know what I mean, they're just out there just looking
for just looking for a way in. And when a
woman gets pregnant, or anyone a person gets pregnant, the
spirit is sitting there going okay, is this the right
body for me?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Do they feel ready for this? That kind of a thing,
you know, And that if you lose a pregnancy that
the spirit was just like not yet and sort of
dipped out. So that was like very comforting to me
in a time when I felt very out of control
and was kind of blaming myself for a lot of
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what was happening. And then I did IVF because while
I was going through all of this, I was like,
I don't know if I even want to be pregnant.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Maybe I maybe a part of me isn't ready and
that's why this isn't happening. And maybe if I freeze
my embryos, then I can choose later when I feel ready.
So I do IVF. I freeze all my embryos, and
then two months later, I found out that I was
pregnant after my husband and I had sex while I
had COVID.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So I was.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So, I was like, okay, and I I remember seeing
the positive pregnancy test and I'd seen many of these before,
and I literally like saw it and had a conver.
I like put both my hands on my stomach and
I said, I don't know if. I was like, let
me just try this. I was like, I don't know
who you are. I don't know, we don't know each other.
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I was like, but whoever you are, I really want
you and I really want to be your mom and
I'm so ready. And I had this like moment right,
and that that ended up being my daughter. So I
think about that a lot. That was like a really spooky,
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cool kind of moment where I felt like, you know,
whenever I think about it, I sort of like get
a little teary because I'm just like, oh, we had
a conversation while you were still like in this spirit,
you know what I mean. And I don't know, that's
just I mean, it might not be real, it might not,
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but I but it's just one of those things that
I can't wait to tell her about, which I'm sure
she'll be like, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, I love that. That's like there's a lot of
people that believe in that kind of and I think
I do too. About like you know, we're spiritual beings
having a human experience. We sort of it goes along
with past lives and you kind of like you know,
you're always like going to a different host. Yes, And
like do you believe in that past life thing?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I believe in reincarnation. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah. So it's like you know, I don't know if
you jump into the next one instantly or what, but
you somehow get into the next one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I mean I believe that for sure, And they they have.
You know, there's like accounts of kids that have memories
from lives that they're it's like, well, that didn't happen here,
you know what I mean? No, I love that, So
that to me is really interesting. And I also I
just really believe that if if on a scientific level,
like if energy can't be created or destroyed, where does
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it go? It into somewhere else? And then it just
keeps moving. It's always bouncing around. It's always moving.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And if you see if you've ever seen a dead body,
have you seen a dead body?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I have seen it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Seeing a dead body makes you realize, oh, this is
like a car, this is like a skin suit. Yes,
outside of like the blood and the organs and the
you know, like the thing that animates all of it
is like our energy.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I also feel that way with like the Uncanny Valley,
Like do you know about that term? Yes? Yeah, It's
like you see like a mannequin and you look in
the eyes and you're like that those eyes they don't
have a soul, they don't have a spirit. It's just
a dead eye.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And like when you see a dead body, it's like
there's it's it's just a vessel. There's nothing, there's no
more life there.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's not looking at ai art.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, and it's different from when someone's sleeping, like if
someone's sleeping and staying still, it's different. I think.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh, first of all, they're way more attractive.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, but I wish we could, like if I do
to talk to a spirit, if I ever like am
able to talk to a ghost, I am going to say,
who do I ask to do my makeup before I die?
Because I need some rex because the funerals, the old,
the wakes that I've been to, you know, we need
to get some real makeup artistic.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It can be rough, that's for sure. Yeah. No, I've
I've seen some seen some mugs that they could have
used the tutoriums like you didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Do them like that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, for eat your feeling exactly. Well, let's do something
fun here. I'll give you an option. Okay, I've got
three options. You could choose from one of these, and
I'll tell you about a little story of the multiple choice. Yeah.
These are all like you know, real reported stories.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
The first one is about witches being witches. Witches being
witches Okay, Okay. The second one, it's a conspiracy theory
about Elvis is still alive and now he's somebody else.
But people know.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We've had enough.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't usually do conspiracy theories, but sometimes they're so silly.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh, I don't even mean so I'm saying ough to Elvis.
I'm like, we've had enough of that too.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Let's get lost already. You died years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Where do you go from? Austin Butler? I'm sorry. And
then the third one is a haunted toys arr us
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh, okay, in nineties. I'm going to go with toys
r us. I'm just curious about this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
First of all, I like that it's a period piece.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It is absolutely a period piece. Okay, So this I'm
obsessed with. It is a haunted toys arrest that has
since closed. It closed in twenty eight teen. It's located
in sunny Vale, California, which is Bay Area, Okay, somewhere
up there. It is now an ari I okay, which
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what is that?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
An outdoors close?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I think it's like a camping store.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Camping store, Okay, so I don't now I tried to
do some googling. I tried to even look at yell reviews, and.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know, really, I mean ari I would just
assume their clientele doesn't believe in ghosts.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, is that doomsday?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But yeah, I didn't find any reviews or anyone reporting
like a canteen flew across the room, somewhat set up
a tent, a.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Pair of skis fell from yeah, balcony.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And yeah, I didn't see anything like that.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But so basically, as the story goes, this toys or
Russ was constructed in nineteen seventy. I'm getting my info
from a mentalfloss dot com article.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Okay, so we know it's legit.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's very much legit. Though, I will say I know
of two TV shows that covered this in like the nineties.
I believe it was nineties where they kind of went
to the place and yeah, it was like she had
a moment in the nineties. This toys resident Suddy Veil
Okay employees claim to see dolls flying off the shelves
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and balls bouncing down the aisles when they were alone.
They would feel a cold breeze on their back or
hear a disembodied voice call their name. Some witnesses reported
being touched by an invisible hand. Are you familiar God
with Sylvia Brown?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I know that name. Tell me who that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
She's like, this iconic psychic that was like really in
the media until the two thousand I believe less. Okay,
don't take facts from me. But she wrote a bunch
of books and she would do a lot of like
TV appearances. Now, as I always say, I believe psychics
are like comedians. They have good days and bad days. Sure,
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she unfortunately had a lot of bad days that have
been recorded and compilated on YouTube of her on like
Montel Williams being like, did your daughter like whatever? And
then these people are like, no, I love that. It's great.
But you know what she had confidence? Yea, And that
is what I want from a psychic.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So she went up in there at the Toys Arrus
in Sunny Vale and it says she did a seance
and during the rituals she claimed to sense the spirit
of a Swedish preacher named Johnny Johnson. He worked on
the land, not.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
A preacher and a toys r us.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is Johnny john Keep it out, keep it got
here Johnson. So, Johnny Johnson before it was a toys
r Us worked on that land and he was helping
out on it was called the Murphy Farm in the
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eighteen eighties, and he fell in love with the family
that lives There's daughter named Elizabeth. She didn't return his
affections and ran off with a lawyer from the East Coast.
Now Johnson, Johnny Johnson. He injured his leg chopping trees
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and slowly bled out, Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
A preacher, what's he doing chopping trees?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know what, someone's got to chop them. But he
uh so this is all just what she gathered from
being in the barbie. So she's like, there's a preacher
name Johnny Johnson here. I'm telling you right now. He
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chopped his leg.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It was Johnny Johnson. So uh.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She said that he is the most stubborn, ornery, argumentative
ghost she's ever met. This is what she wrote in
her book called The Other Side and Back Colon, a
Psychics Guide to Our World and Beyond. Okay, And she
also wrote, I've tried many times to explain to him
that his lifetime as Johnny Johnson has ended. He finally
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got so tired of my nagging him about it that
he gave me an ultimatum. He said, if you tell
me I'm dead one more time, I'm not going to
talk to you anymore. Sylvia had so she also would
like she would go visit him frequently. She would go.
(38:00):
Sylvia would go to the Toys Arrest and be like,
I'm back Johnny, and.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's well, yeah, it's the only it's the only person
who not even he would believe her she's talking to him.
Was the cameras aren't rolling so exactly, Wow, he's her
lucky ghost.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Funny you say that, because I do actually have some
footage of the camera rolling while she took a visit
to see Johnny Jackson at the Toys r See this absolutely,
can you show us this clip? This is from a
TV show called That's Incredible.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh God, look at this.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah it's good. This seemingly normal toy store is a
popular place for local kids. Oh take me back, are
those who claim that it's a favorite haunt of a
very playful ghost.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Could a ghost be lurking here in this irresistible playground? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Ooh, skateboards, Oh it's a recreation. None of this is real.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Zovia Brown believe she made contact with the ghost. I
kept picking up this uh Joannie Johnston.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Johnny Johnston.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
The toy store is locate Johnny that spot where this
house once.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
He probably was like, if you don't start calling me Johnny.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
In the late eighteen hundreds by a prosperous settler named
Martin Murphy. Further research revealed that a local circuit preacher
sometimes lived on the Murphy farm.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
It appears that this is really I'd fallen in love.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
With Martin Murphy's daughter Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Maybe they've cooperated.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Even worked on the farm to pay for his room
and board. Unfortunately, Elizabeth paid little attention to him. One day,
while chopping wood, Johnson badly slashed his leg. Unable to
move or get help, he bled to death.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Leading to death is I've talked to doctors that I
do work with, and that's really not that painful. It's
sort of a slow tiredness. So he probably doesn't even
realize he has did ok now.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
We wondered if our site kick, Sylvia Brown, could make
contact with the ghosts that was loose in the store.
The best way was to set up a seance. We
hired professional.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Photographer little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, and it was in their cameras that the unbelievable
appeared to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I love that everyone in the eighties had the exact
same haircut.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I know, men, women doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I'm really feeling now I think so.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Now we're looking at her literally doing a very spookidly
lit saan.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Yeah, just moving along to the right, trays heading out
towards me.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Now she believes she sees him. Now, this is what's crazy.
They're snapping photos. They captured Yanni Johnson. Look at that
he's looking down.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
At his feet.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
These photographs were taking Wait, it's that that light light
talking to the John Johnson.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
The photograph in this proof sheet was taken with infrared film.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
At the same time the photograph on this.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Proof sheet was taken with high speed films.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
The incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is that whole man standing there.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Figure standing at the back of the picture that does
not show up in the photographs taken with high speed films.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh, John, you can find just like you just go on.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
To the other side. You really are caught in a
kind framework.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So yeah, they're claiming that they took the same photo
two times, and they in one of two different cameras,
and one camera captured that man standing there in shadow form.
That's what they claim on a TV show called That's Incredible. Now,
if it is, that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, that's pretty amazing. It sucks to have been a
psychic in the eighties and nineties, I do think, because
people are much more open to what they do now.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I think so. But also nowadays things get proven, Like
everybody has access to research to be like you're lying,
this isn't real, right or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
But I think like because of that, people are either
going to believe you where they're not true. So it's
like you're gonna find your people, you know what I mean.
Whereas back then, if somebody else didn't believe the same thing,
you'd be like, yeah, no, me either, right, But now
people will just go back and forth and be like, no,
this is what but have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
But have you seen this?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know? So I think people are kind of just
choosing a belief system now, yeah that works for them.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Well, I can see where you would believe in psychics
after those stories that you told me those are pretty
good psychics.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I still but I still am like, we'll see, but
it kind OF's like you can bomb.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Sometimes you're allowed silver. Sometimes you get a couple of
minutes on TV and it's not it didn't go your way.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Other times Yannisen shows up in a photo.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Right, so you kind of like leaning against a bookshelf
and he's doing he was doing a real like Marlboro
Man post.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
He was trying to look hot for that daughter. Yeah,
she was interested in her lawyer. Yeah, hey, can I
show you a doll that is haunted that's currently for
sale on eBay?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, it's time Wait how much?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Hang on, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
so frose Bud. Actually I forgot to write down how
much this doll is going for? Ge how much is
this doll going for?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, if it's free, then I'm I'm like, oh that
shit is haunted.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Exactly because here's the thing, Like the price matters, I believe,
because yeah, if it's free, if someone's just a couple bucks,
that is, that's that's what we're looking for in my opinion.
But all so, I don't know, I don't know a
lot of these, you know. It's another thing I look
at how many other haunted dolls are these people selling
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because it's an industry.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, this one's going for seventy dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Seventy Okay, it's a little steep. Her name is Liz.
And as always, if you want to see what this
doll looks like, just go to the Instagram at ghosted
by Ros and there's a new tab. Actually there's a
new story highlight and it says dolls twenty twenty five.
(44:34):
Gee can you show us Liz please? You got it, Ros, Liz,
Liz the Haunted Door?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Did you give it a name like Liz?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
And she looks like that?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So what we got here is that's just an ugly doll.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
She could definitely use a wig.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Just because a doll is ugly doesn't mean it's haunted.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
That is the umping off point for a lot of these,
I think, yeah, to see it ugly. And she's she's
got a fabric.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, she's got socks for socks for arms.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, she has I'm guessing a porcelain face, a little
cracked maybe, Yeah. Her eyes are real close together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Cash Ptel that I don't know who that is. He's
like he's in Trump's administration.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh oh, and she's got the real tiny.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Little yeah mouth. Yeah, her face is very small for
her head.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I don't like that mouth. That's a Mitch McConnell mouth
with some lipstick on it and very teeny tiny little eyebrows. Anyway, Well,
here's the thing about all these dolls. They come with stories.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Is that a bloodstain on her shirt?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I assume. So here's what it says about Liz. It
says meat Liz a lively and flirtatious spirit attached to
this charming vintage doll. Liz's personality is as colorful as
her story, making her an unforgettable companion for those seeking
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a playful and highly interactive spirit. Her sense of humor,
love for vintage dolls, and artistic energy make her one
of a kind. A little bit about her personality, She
has a cheeky, flirtatious sense of humor and loves to
make her presence known during.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Our Does this mean is she going to get involved
at night?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
It says during our first session through a spirit box,
which is like a ghost hunting device, she introduced herself
with a hilarious and bold comment stating, Okaya, now, hang
on a second. They did that thing where you like, say,
like a nod word, but you put asterisks. Yeah, you know,
(47:03):
so they put P and then four asterisks, so it
says I love.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Penis and I oh, I love penis.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It says I love penis, and then there's another one
a C and there's one, two, three, four, five asterisks.
See oh SKay, nope, see you. I'm not going to
keep spulling I love. Maybe she's bye, we don't know.
(47:39):
She passed away at thirty. She mentioned attaching to this
particular doll because of her love of vintage dolls, especially
ones like this. She describes herself as artistic with dark brown,
curly hair and striking blue eyes. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
She I'm sorry, but this personality would have attached to
a hot doll.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
I know, like a hot bisexual.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I don't know that she would have chosen that, but
it does say like her headline in the listing says
haunted doll, extremely active, flirtatious, LGBTQ positive, So she's an ally.
We don't know exactly what she's into, but something with.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It sounds like penis and cunts.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
You make up your mind on that one.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I have a theory about Liz Okay. I feel like
after years of inserting herself into probably several different polycules.
She probably was a really hot doll and then you
know it's just some wear and tear.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
She had been through it. Yeah, she's been through it
all genders.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, she's just kind of like she's been around and she's.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
That lady would ask you what time you were born?
That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Hey, the town bicycle, Liz, the town bicycle.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Everybody gets a ride. She's that bird scooter. Can I
play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Okay, please, it's time for EVP or ev please okay.
The term EVP it stands for Electronic Voice phenomenal. So
this is anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I've been ghosts. I've been ghost hunting before.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Ross, whoa, I just lost my headphones. Why didn't we
start with that.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
I've been ghost hunting. I went with my husband when
we were in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
We went ghost Tell me all of that and then
we'll get to the ghost.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Maybe it wasn't New Orleans, maybe it was North Carolina.
I'd have to ask him, but we did go on
a ghost tour. Yeah. Honestly, I was very distracted because
the guy who was running the ghost tour. He would
not stop talking about how his son used to go
on the ghost tour with him and now he's too embarrassed.
Oh that man and so yeah, and he had a
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lot of rivalries with other.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Ghost tours and it gets competitive.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, he was like, you know, they don't have the
same equipment I have, but they think but they got
this massive following and you know, so and so I
was sort of like, well, now it just feels like
we're sort of supporting a small business ghost hunter whose
son wants nothing to do with him. And I can't
pay attention to the stories because I want to hear
(50:40):
more about his exactly. So that's probably why we didn't
start there. Oh but anyways, I know what an EVP.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Is, Okay, Okay, Yeah, because yeah, I've I've definitely gone
on a lot of tours and looked into a lot
of them. And you go to these websites and a
lot of times it'll say the only one in town
that has piece of equipment, yeah, or the only one
with access to this place. You know, these people are
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no joke. They want to be the best one in town,
so their sons will talk to them. Okay, So this
first one is from CC the Huntress on YouTube. CC
recorded this at the Black Swan Inn, which is in Tilton,
New Hampshire, New Hampshire. What is this ghost saying? Rosebud? Okay?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Can I bud?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Sure? I mean it's clear as day?
Speaker 2 (51:46):
That's clear as day to you?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
No it is not.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
But okay, wait, let me just really tune in here.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Okay, that literally sounds like someone on the street going
comedy show.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, they're barking, you want to come to the comedy club.
We got people from Comedy Central.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
You can't think of a sadd way to die.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh what if it's the ghost of that of one
of those flyer people. Well, that is not what CC
the Huntress believes.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
What did she say?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I'll give you abc D. Did CC think it was
a wait? I need to hear it one more time
before key's options? Okay, did CC think it was a
that song? Ain't shit? B they're coming quick? C that's
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how they sit? Or D I got a ship.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
I think it's that's how they sit, exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
What CC believes. I also think it could be I
got a shit. Yeah, Okay, here's one more. This one
was posted by ghosts Nat seventy one sixty seven on YouTube,
and it has had a place called the Black Dog
Wine Company in Oakdale, Pennsylvania. Why is it saying.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Get me out of Oakdale?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I could see that oak Well, it's not what ghosts
Ghosts NAT seventy one sixty seven thought. Did they think
it was a no I'm a bad kid? Oh? No,
b don't write a bad check? C Oh, that's some bullshit?
(54:02):
Or d are you sure you don't want to come
to the comedy show? I can't we play it again?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Don't write a bad check?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
They believe it is saying no, I'm a bad kid.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Oh, now I hear that.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I could hear bad check.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, I mean something like that. I would. I could
hear no I'm a bad kid after having heard it after.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But that's usually how it goes. But it's like to
pull it out of thin air.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's really really difficult to
break these things down.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Let's do one last thing.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Speaking of breaking things down, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm
just a bunch of paranormal stuff and I'm just gonna
bits some out it. Yeah, and you tell me if
you've got a thought about it if you got a
story about I don't know what it inspires.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, Bigfoot bullshit? Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't think
so it doesn't exist. I think it's you know, people
that spend a lot of time in the woods. Ari
I are lonely, Yes, ari I. I think Bigfoot is
people who take alpha brains like astrology.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not a I don't like the
great outdoors, so I'm not a big I don't have
much interest in going to look for Bigfoot. Yeah, but
I wish all of those people.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Well I do too, and also got enough to worry
about your living in the woods. You know there's bears
out there. Yeah, maybe just focus on the real threats exactly.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Well, that's that's a lot of this stuff. You know,
there's bigger issues than invisible people.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
For sure, But that's just fun and games Bigfoot when
you're looking for tracks and stuff, I don't want to
have to hike.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
But also it's like, what if we met Bigfoot and
he's like, I don't know, like a bro that like
just a really toxic masculine you know, It's like I
don't Yeah, there's a million ways it could be awful. Yes,
and you're spending a lot of time looking for something
that could be very disappointing. Right, Okay, what about wigi boards?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I just like there's something about them that really makes
me feel happy and really joyous. Yeah, because it reminds
me of like spooky sleepovers.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
And so you played it before?
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember like doing like a Oiji
board with a candle and someone spranging some perfume and
the candle going up and all of us being like,
you know, so, I just it's to me real or
not doesn't matter. Creates incredible memories, yes, and it honestly
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is the purpose of what I think Ouigi board, whether
it brings in ghosts or not, you do connect. You
make a connection over a wigi board, whether it's with
a living or dead spirit. Right, So to me, that's valid.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
It gives the kids something to do to focus on
and stay away from their screens. Yeah, take a break
from the iPad and go talk to some demens. Kids
with a demon.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Connect with your own imagination.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
What about demons? Is that something that you subscribe?
Speaker 3 (57:46):
I do?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, I absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
In what sense? Like, do you think that there's like
a devil?
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I think there's a devil in Yeah, in the sense
that like there are demonicsits, and I think they do
attach themselves to us. And I think that they show
themselves in either the form of like addiction or like
spiritual malaise. Yeah. I just there's something about them that
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I really do believe in. I think that's why The
Exorcist is such a scary movie because to me, whether
it's Satan or the devil, if the idea that something
can enter your body and take over your mind is
very real, Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
Well, and that's the thing. I think a lot of
times it's kind of personified as you know, some kind
of horned creature. But it's like or could it just
be bad energy?
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, maybe you just got like too famous, too fast,
and now you're a demon.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Sorry, I couldn't help it. Everyone just wanted me. Okay,
let's do one last one.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (59:10):
What about UFOs?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
UFOs? I don't I know that they exist because they
it's been confirmed. Right. Do I believe that the drones
over New Jersey were UFOs?
Speaker 4 (59:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Do you think aliens would want to go to New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Absolutely not, absolutely not. But also maybe they just needed
like a bunch of people that like to gossip a lot,
you know, and I think that New Jersey people are
they do like to talk.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know, you get some chatter going.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
There's that kind of old joke about like how foreign
countries get our media later, you know, so like certain
things are like brand new to them, but it's like
it's from years ago. Yes, I wonder if they like
recently got the Sopranos and there they wanted to go
see where it was shot. You know, it probably takes
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a while to get up there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, they're like, what is gabba ghoul?
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah, they're like, we don't know how it ended. It
just went black. Yeah, we want to go down there and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
See you see if he's okay, Yeah, that's a really
good theory.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's that's my theory. Okay. But do you think that
they are like beings that live on another planet or.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I don't see why not? Yeah, I don't see. Yeah,
I can't see why not. I think out of all
the things that we've talked about today, that makes the
most sense.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Right, Well, it's the most like physical like tangible or
it's something like the idea of people living on a
planet I mean we do, so why can't.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Why couldn't that? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think
obviously that they are people. I think people are We're
our own thing, you know what I mean. Like, there's
not people living in the ocean or are there? Well,
there could be, but I don't want to see them.
Very well, I don't want to see I don't want
to see them. We only don't even like the look
of fish. So I don't want to see a person.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Who looks like a fish, yeah, and like lives with
the fishes and acts like a fish. Yeah, well that's mermaids.
You know, a lot of people, A lot of people
come back and they say, you know, I was out
there and I saw a mermaid and she was hideous.
That's what they say. All other times, doll, that makes sense,
they say, like it wasn't cute, Like no, get that
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idea out of your head. This thing was like fish head, yes,
with like lady legs or I actually I don't know,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I could see like a fish with tits. Okay, that's hot, yeah,
but not hot tits.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, that very well could be like some some nasty fish.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
With ye a movie where the guy fucked the fish.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Which one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I'm gonna go ahead and say, like, didn't it win
an oscar?
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah? The shape of water?
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yes, yeah, that seems to me like what what a
mermaid would look like for real.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, like a creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, kind
of a thing. I don't know. I don't find that
is scary because I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Land, bitch, Yeah, come up here, get up here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I'm not going down there. Come up here, and let's
see how long you can last. I'll put one arm
behind my back, let's go, let's fight.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Let's do it on my territory, on my turf.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
That's how I feel about sharks too. Sharks are like
one of my biggest fears.
Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
But if you saw one on land, oh, come over here, bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
But like, but if I'm in.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
There, I don't trust anything in there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I don't do you go in the ocean, I don't
even eat seafood. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't want anything down there. That's I don't want
to eat eat food from Mars, and I don't want
to eat anything from the from the water.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's I you know, this is not a completely accurate statement,
but both up and in the ocean are like both
very little discovered. We don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I don't. I don't even like it just on
a food based level. I don't like that fish look
the exact same dead as they do alive.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Oh you know what I'm saying, because I don't have
souls to bring it back to the corpses.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yuck.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah. Yeah, well anyway, thanks for doing that. I love you.
This is really fun. So do you have you do
you have anything you want to tell us?
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
You know, do I have anything booked? Am I booked?
Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
And you?
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Do you want us to where do you want us
to follow?
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Follow me at rosebud Baker on tic tac Instagram YouTube.
I have a special coming out on Netflix February eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Congrat you. It's called The mother Load.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah, so that's very exciting. And it's an hour that
I shot pregnant and then a year later after I'd
had the baby, and it's mixed together into one hour.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
That's so cool. So one year later you okay, Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
It talks about like miscarriage, IVF, all the all that shit,
and spirit babies and spirit babies a little bit there's
like nods to it, but I don't, you know, it's
a comedy club audience.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Sure, but yeah, I'm really really exciting. Congrats, thank you.
And then SNL. Honestly, I think people need to watch
that episode about the writers at SNL on Peacock on Peacock,
what do you know what it's called. It's I don't
SNL documentary beyond SNL something it's called. That's incredible. Go
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watch it. Just go to Peacock and type in the
SNL documentary about writers and then you'll see Rosebud running
from the cameras.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
But turning around and running.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But it's like, people don't necessarily go, oh my god.
The person that wrote this sketch is like, you know,
I just I want people to you know. Yeah, people
don't always know that those are written by people, right,
and those jokes are very funny. Yeah, anyway, thanks for doing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
This, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
This was so fun, bless you. Thank you so much
to Rosebud, and make sure you check out Rosebud's new
Netflix comedy special mother Load on the eighteenth of February. God,
this podcast is really it's a good one. It's good.
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I like this podcast. I like it a lot, and
I appreciate you for listening and tell everyone you know
about it. I love you all, both living and dead.
But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
haunt me. Okay, by this has been an exactly right production.
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sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
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is the Petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the
hair Raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by
the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced
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by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, The Spooky Georgia hard Stark,
and the frightening Danielle Kramer
What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really
sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I said, I los Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me
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Roz and welcome to Bostood by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
I got to talk to rosebud Baker, who is such
a hilarious comedian. She is a writer on SNL and
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she has a new Netflix special coming out called mother Load.
Look out for that. She is such a good comedian
and she has some stories. Oh my god, this is
like perfect episode, I really think. So it's a great
one because we got some good stories, we get a
little real and we laugh. What Morgage ask for? Oh,
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speaking of laughter, something that I love to make people do.
And you know, constantly I'm doing comedy whether you realize
it or not. I am working on a lot of
dates right now, and I'm trying. I'm trying to get everywhere.
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I want to go to all fifty states in America,
and trust me, I want to go beyond America to
trust me, I wouldn't mind a little break. So I'm
working on dates. So make sure you're paying attention to
my social media. Everything's on Instagram at ros Hernandez. Also,
speaking of being a comedian, I am nominated for a
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queert Award, which is a great honor. It's a great
LGBTQ publication called the Queer Teas and you are allowed
to vote for it every single day, and that voting
is open until February twenty fifth on Queer Tea's website.
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If you're unsure how to spell it or whatever, just
go to my link tree, which we'll have a link
to it there so I can say I'm an award
winning comedian and the people I'm up against, oh my god,
some of my biggest enemies. Actually, I think a couple
of people that have been on the show, probably I
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don't know, vote for me, We're vote for them, They're
all great whatever, whatever, Just you know, vote, very very important. Okay.
Let me give you a story real quick. This one
comes from a listener named Emma Emirates. A few years ago,
my boyfriend and I moved into a house in the
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historic district of a mountain town in Colorado. Built in
nineteen ten, the house came with its own piece of history,
a hauntingly beautiful photo of the original owner's three sons,
which still hangs in our hallway. At first we thought
it was a quirky keepsake, but when we decided to
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put the photo away, the house seemed to retaliate. It
started subtly. Fire alarms blared when we stood underneath them
without cause. We called a maintenance professional to check them out,
but they couldn't find anything wrong. Then came the voices
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and whistles. Whispers and faint whistling would float up from downstairs.
We'd go to check it out, but no one was
ever there. Friends began to notice strange things too. One
of them watched our storm door open and close repeatedly,
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as if an unseen hand was testing it. She stepped
outside to check for wind, but the air was completely still.
The most unsettling moment happened while I was sitting on
the porch reading. I heard the unmistakable sound of footsteps
stomping through the living room. Thinking it was our dog.
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Because I was the only one home, I went to check,
only to find him asleep at my feet. Safe to say,
I ran outside to collect myself for a few minutes.
Then there was the furnace. Every summer, we'd turn off
the heat for the season as fall approached. One October,
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our maintenance guy came to switch it back on. A
Few mornings later, I woke up to a bone shilling house.
It was barely fifty degrees inside. We called him back
and he was visibly annoyed. He says, who keeps turning
the furdus off? My boyfriend and I just stared at
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each other. Neither of us even knew how to access
the switch. It was always handled by the landlord. He
told us this was the second time someone had physically
flipped the lever to the off position. It's not easy
to do, he said, it takes some effort. In the end,
he had to padlock the switch to keep it from
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being tampered with. Strange occurrences continued until I decided to
follow some advice I heard on Living for the Dead.
Oh my god, I was on that show. One night.
I stood in the living room, sage in hand, fed
up as fuck, and I said, I see you. I
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respect your space, but I am not okay okay with this.
I'm here to take care of your home, and I
need you to leave us alone. That same night, I
also agreed to put the photo of the boys back
on display as long as they left us alone. Since then,
the house has been quiet, eerily so, and every now
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and then I catch myself glancing at that old photo
completely weirded out. Thank you, Emma God. I love a
good ghost story. All right, let's talk to the hilarious
rosebud Baker and with the show. Rosebud Roz, thanks for
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being here.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're a New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I am.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Hang on a second, you work at us at all?
I was just watching that documentary and I saw you
in it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I was running from the cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Did you see me running that Peacock documentary? Which was great?
You know? I put it on and I was like,
are they gonna like go from the beginning?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, but no, like.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Focuses on, like there's an episode just about the writers,
and that's where I saw you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I spent the entire year last year hiding from that
camera crew. I was like, I'm not answering questions about
my job that I currently have on camera.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It seems stressful.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I was like, I'm not doing this. This feels like
a trap.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, every time I have an SNL person here,
I asked them if thirty Rock is haunted, they always say, no,
what's your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I would say haunted, Uh, by my own personal demons,
I would say. I would say people's personal demons are enough.
I think if a ghost walked into thirty Rock, they'd
be like, it feels a little crowded.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, They're like, take me to a farmhouse in the
middle of nowhere so I can possess it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I can really make an impact.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, yes, this is too much. Too many personalities, too
much conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, there's too many internal conversations happening.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, you know that's why I wonder when it's completely quiet,
there's nobody there. I bet you a security guard has
got a story. Oh yeah, you know, somebody like that.
Not the people that are like, shit, well I got
a deadline, I gotta.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, yeah, somebody. I mean, I wonder if thirty Rock
has ever been completely quiet, To be honest, that's really
the question, because I've never seen that building quiet, right,
and I'm there until early morning.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow. You know I have so much respect for people
that are you're you're doing this season right? Yes? Yes, good.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's fun. It's fun. I think honestly, I think part
of why it's so good is that I'm no longer
writing on the sketch side. Okay, I moved over to
weekend updates love it, which I God bless the sketch writers.
They are so good to what they do. I spent
three years in the sketch writing, and I still have
no idea how it works. Like I had sketches on
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and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing,
and I don't know what I'm doing here, and then
over the summer I reached out and I was like,
I don't there's no real reason for me to be
on the sketch side. I write single jokes.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Right right right. That's that's how I feel, too, Like
I like a joke, yes, and I feel like there's
some good ones these days on that show. Congratulations, good job,
thank you. Gee pushes the envelope, which I appreciate in
a way that's not like the gross way, you know,
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like it's like still fun walk in that line.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, it feels fun and funny and it's not it's
not just like That's what I love about it is
it's not Edgy just for Edgy's sake, you know, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Good job, thank you. Hey, what about ghosts?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What about ghosts?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Are you Okay? Here's the annoying thing I say almost
every single damn episode. We never hear New York ghost
stories ever. Oh from my guests.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, New York is a very haunted city.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't know why these people they come on my show,
they never have a ghost Like I'll have people that
live in New York or spend time in New York,
but their stories will not be from actual New York City, right,
every once in a while, but not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah for my liking, I have some very intense I mean,
most of my experience with like the metaphysical is through mediums.
Hell yeah, mediums who have literally accosted me on the
street where like apparently I'm dripping with corpses.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, so they just come up to you and they go,
I'm so sorry, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They literally will be like, I'm I'm so sorry about
what happened to your friend, or they'll literally say exactly
different people that I know who have died.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
How many times does this happen?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh? Millions? Are you kidding me? I are you serious. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's
just part of my life. But death has been a
major theme.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I lost my sister years years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now I've heard you talk about yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And then I have, and then i'm I'm a recovering alcoholic.
So I have any ton of friends?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh my god, yeah in two days, ten years.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh my god, congratulations, that's amazing. Yeah. So you know,
we know a lot of people who die. Yeah, sadly,
but tons of my friends gone gone with the wind.
And I'm comics, so those comics they die, Yeah, they
die young. And so yeah, I'm just I just really
am riddled with dead bodies. Apparently they're just following me around.
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They like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know, what's funny that I always say, my dead
people not interested? So it's a compliment.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What do you mean they're not They're not around like
you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You've talked to mediums and they they say goodbye, and
that's the end of the story. I go, no further comments,
that's it, weird, no comment. I go to psychics. I
accost psychics. I'm the opposite. I go up to them
and say, is there a dead body around me and
they say, I'm sorry, babe.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, no right, and you're like, can you make one up.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Exactly, just say something. Did you have a grandma that
does just say something? Just make it up?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Actually I have had them where they're like, oh, I'm
seeing some like they start describing someone. I'm like, that's
not I never Yeah, I don't talk to people that
look like that. Right, Okay, So give me an example
of one of these stories. Somebody comes up to you.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So there was one time I was at a comedy club.
It was a New York comedy club, and there was
a girl that was working there who came up and
was like like immediately I saw her and I thought,
oh my god, is this someone that I met while
I was drinking? Who I like, did something terrible to
you know what I mean? Because the way that she
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reacted to me was like she remembered something that I
couldn't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
She was in the audience, and you really.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
She came back in the green room. I'd never seen
her in the club before. She comes back in the
green room to bring somebody a drink, and she saw
me and she went like like she had like a
visceral physical reaction to me, and I was like, oh no,
And I thought, okay, well, I'll introduce myself to her
and maybe i'll like remember something. You know, when you
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drink a lot, you're like maybe I blacked out, and
I really like said something horrible or did something terrible,
you know, I had that feeling of like, oh no.
So I was like, let me just introduce myself and
see if I can put the pieces together here. And
she shook my hand, but she like didn't want to
touch me, and I was like, I was like, I'm
so sorry. I was like, are you okay? Because she
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just seemed fucked up, and so I asked if she
was all right and she was like, I I'm so sorry.
I just I need a second. She like left, and
then she came back and she was like, I have
to tell you this. I'm I'm so sorry about what
happened to your sister. And I was like, oh, did
you have did you have a family member where it
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happened to them as well or something, you know what
I mean? And she was like, no, we've never met before.
I don't I don't know you, but I you know,
I'm so sorry about what happened to your sister. And
I'm a medium and I've just kind of started to
open myself up to this. And at this point I'm going, Ah,
she's kind of like, it's giving scam artist.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I've heard it on podcasts. I've heard you talk about it.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah you have, I have. Oh you're saying that she
she listened to That's what I was thinking, right, But
then she started to describe things about it that no
one had heard and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
No one knew that's that's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And I was like, oh, this is fucked. Like she
knew her middle name, she knew how this had happened
to her, like the details of it and how she
had gotten to the hospital, and how like the way
that my mom had told me and stuff. And then
she started talking about like things that she wanted to
(15:30):
say and how she always she was like, she's always
on your right arm. And it's so funny that she
because she mentioned that. But I had always had these
moments where I was like waiting for the subway, or
I was like falling or something, and I felt like
something from my right hand like bring me back, really
in a way that I had never mentioned out loud.
Because it made me feel insane, right, And that was
(15:53):
when I went, Okay, this feels like legit, you know,
this feels like she knows what she's talking about. The
weird thing then, was that I never saw her at
the club again, Like she wasn't real. Other people were there,
they saw this conversation happen, but I never saw her
again at the club. So I was like, this feels
(16:16):
like a weird uh. I mean, maybe she had a
psychotic break. I have no idea, but she wasn't just
like a messenger. So yeah, it felt like a messenger.
And it felt like like I had an explanation for
why I always felt this feeling, this weird feeling, like
as if I was holding someone's hand while I was
like waiting for the subway or waiting for a bus,
(16:38):
or like I would just feel sometimes at night, I
would feel like someone was holding my hand while I
was going to sleep, you know what I mean. Like,
so that kind of felt like, oh, this feels like
a message, yeah someone else.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know, when she told you this, were you like
tell me more or were you just like okay? And
then like, how did it get to the point where.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She I just kind of going, well, I just kind
of I'm sure. I was like, wait, how do you
I was like, did you hear me say this? On
a pot? I would ask questions, you know, I was
asking questions and stuff like that. And this happened a
long time ago now, so it's hard for me to
really remember how the conversation went specifically, but I remember
being skeptical for a good portion of the conversation until
(17:23):
she said that thing about my right handoo, and then
I was like, Okay, this is now spooky, you know.
And then once she said something that really landed with me,
I kind of didn't want to talk anymore, which is
so odd because it's like you're so curious, you know,
and you sort of want to test their knowledge a
little bit, of course, but then once they say something
(17:44):
that's like for real, you're like, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like, did you have to go on stage after that?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah? Oh god, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's probably why she got fired. She kept going up
to comedians.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And sorry about what happened to your dad.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
People are crying, and then they have to go up
on stage.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't think. I honestly don't know if she got
fired or if she left, but I know I never
saw her again.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's a pretty fun one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Wait, so does it happen other times? Though?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh my god, can you tell us all of them?
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So okay, it's been so long since I thought about
any of this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's what I'm here for, is to bring out these memories.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm like, okay, So I know that at one point
I I contacted a medium on my own to speak
to them, right. I think it was after I met
this girl, right, because I had never thought about reaching
out to a medium before that, but I reached out
to a medium and I was like, I want to
hear what else is out there, what else they've got?
(18:49):
And it was really a nothing burger call, Like I
remember calling this medium and she started talking about how
my sister was and almost compulsive right where like and
on the other side in the spirit world, she wanted
to experience things that we were experiencing because she died
(19:09):
so young. So she was like, I'm I'm I'm hearing
something about chocolate chip cookies. And I was like, yeah,
I got nothing for you. I don't know what you're
talking about. But she was like, something about chocolate chip cookies.
And wanting to eat like a whole thing of chocolate
chip cookies. And I was like, okay, well yeah, cool,
(19:31):
I'll make note of that. And then we hung up
and I was like that sucked and I just wasted
my money whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
In there, I mean I've done.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I put in a lot of time with these people,
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But I called my sister like the next day her
twin to be like, oh, I you know, I contacted
a medium to see if I could talk to Graham.
And before I could mention any of this to her,
my sister like uugh. She like picked up someone and
was like oh and I was like what and she goes, nothing,
(20:06):
I just had a shitty night last night. She's like,
I came home from this party and I just like
She's like, I was there, it was great, but I
left the party early and I came home and I
just ate a full batch, like a vat of chocolate
chip cookies by myself, like before I could even like
think about it. And now I woke up and I'm
all puffy and I feel like shittah. And I was like,
what do you talk? I was like, okay, I gotta
(20:27):
pause you right there, because I literally spoke to a
medium yesterday who was saying that Graham sometimes will like
enter your body basically, and if you're ever overeating, it's
because she wants to like experience like physical life again
in some way. And I was like, and I don't know,
(20:49):
I'm so sorry you didn't ask to hear this, but
she did bring up a vat of chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And that was the first time I ever really scared
my family with this stuff, you know, where I like
specifically where I brought like metaphysical stuff to my family
and they were like, please don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
What kind of like religion or beliefs.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So we grew up like Episcopalian, which is like Catholicism
light right, Okay, but I never I mean, like we
stopped going to church when I was like nine, okay
around then, and I just I don't really I wasn't
like into church.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm very into like God and the concept of God
and spirituality, and I kind of like take a little
bit from everything. But we're not like a super religious family.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay. Yeah, But when it comes to like paranormal stuff,
was that ever believed or talked about in the house.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, my mom got sober when I was like seventeen,
and I remember her getting kind of freaky with it,
what do you mean, Like I remember her getting kind
of like just into spirituality and into different like paranormal things.
And then after my sister died, it was like really
(22:09):
like she felt like her spirit everywhere and she felt
like she would have these moments where like at the funeral,
like a butterfly landed on my mom's hand and just
stayed there the entire funeral, you know. So like that
kind of thing started to like creep into my psychology
where I started kind of going, oh, that's cool, that's interesting. Yeah,
(22:31):
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's something I was raised with, is like the signs,
like yes, like my grandfather's funeral, like the clouds parted
and there was a rainbow. Yes, So that's him.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm why I like it. Why not,
I'm open to it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's to me. I think maybe he came out as
gay and the afterlife. Yeah he said, you know what,
it's everything up here and then born this way, We're
down for whatever up here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah hell yeah yeah. I think a major way into
spirituality for me was when I started getting into astrology.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That was astrology. Okay. Astrology is something that at this
point I should know about, but I just don't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay, but it's a little more complicated then it's a
tough thing to kind of pick up.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, it's like learning a language, and I just you know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It really is not that smart.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, but I love people that know about it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
What is your son?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I know I'm a Libra. I always forget what
the other two are. I mean, I had you and
your moon. Yeah. I've had several mulleted polyamorous people asked
me what time I was born? And I have had
that text message exchange with my mother, yes, many times. Right,
And my mom will get a text and I'll say
(23:52):
what time was I born? She goes for the last
time nine pm? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And then they take that information it's and you don't
really care about it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, and then they say you're at this and you're
with that, and right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah. I kind of dropped astrology a little bit, to
be honest, but it was a way in for me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, and I still think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Listen. I think whatever people connect with great for them.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. I also feel like anytime you feel like things
are outside of your control and you can lean on
something else, go for it.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Mm hmmm. Crystals you ever get into that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No. I like them. They're in my house, yeah, but
I don't like lay on a floor and line them
up on my you know, pelvis.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I oh get a.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
There's no returns at crystal stores.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, which is.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Very unfortunate because I have made so many purchases at
a crystal.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Stone and they're so expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
They're gorgeous. They don't do anything, in my opinion, but
they're nice to me. It's like a nice reminders. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
To me, they're like spiritual organic script like skin cream.
I'm like, I need the chemicals. It's not going to
do anything unless it has chemicals in.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It, right, right, right, right? I know, I know, but like,
and that's the worst thing is if I'm on if
I'm traveling someplace and I see a crystal storm, like
let me just poke my head in, yeah, and then
I end up with this forty five pound hunk of like,
you know, pink stone. Yeah, and now I'm stuck with it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, you have book ends for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I've got to book ends, and a lot of on
read books. Wait, do you have any other stories about psychics?
I'm obsessed with these. Okay, So I love hearing testimonials
of psychics working, yes, but I also like hering when
they don't work too.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah. I okay, this isn't a psychic story, but it's
what's coming to mind.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Give me whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There's like a book called Spirit Babies okay that my
friend told me about, and she told me about it
after I'd had a miscarriage, and she was like, you
have to read Spirit Babies because there's this idea that
when you have a miscarriage, it's because like it's like
the idea that spirits are sort of looming around, you
(26:31):
know what I mean, they're just out there just looking
for just looking for a way in. And when a
woman gets pregnant, or anyone a person gets pregnant, the
spirit is sitting there going okay, is this the right
body for me?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Do they feel ready for this? That kind of a thing,
you know, And that if you lose a pregnancy that
the spirit was just like not yet and sort of
dipped out. So that was like very comforting to me
in a time when I felt very out of control
and was kind of blaming myself for a lot of
(27:08):
what was happening. And then I did IVF because while
I was going through all of this, I was like,
I don't know if I even want to be pregnant.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Maybe I maybe a part of me isn't ready and
that's why this isn't happening. And maybe if I freeze
my embryos, then I can choose later when I feel ready.
So I do IVF. I freeze all my embryos, and
then two months later, I found out that I was
pregnant after my husband and I had sex while I
had COVID.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So I was.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So, I was like, okay, and I I remember seeing
the positive pregnancy test and I'd seen many of these before,
and I literally like saw it and had a conver.
I like put both my hands on my stomach and
I said, I don't know if. I was like, let
me just try this. I was like, I don't know
who you are. I don't know, we don't know each other.
(28:00):
I was like, but whoever you are, I really want
you and I really want to be your mom and
I'm so ready. And I had this like moment right,
and that that ended up being my daughter. So I
think about that a lot. That was like a really spooky,
(28:20):
cool kind of moment where I felt like, you know,
whenever I think about it, I sort of like get
a little teary because I'm just like, oh, we had
a conversation while you were still like in this spirit,
you know what I mean. And I don't know, that's
just I mean, it might not be real, it might not,
(28:41):
but I but it's just one of those things that
I can't wait to tell her about, which I'm sure
she'll be like, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, I love that. That's like there's a lot of
people that believe in that kind of and I think
I do too. About like you know, we're spiritual beings
having a human experience. We sort of it goes along
with past lives and you kind of like you know,
you're always like going to a different host. Yes, And
like do you believe in that past life thing?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I believe in reincarnation. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah. So it's like you know, I don't know if
you jump into the next one instantly or what, but
you somehow get into the next one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I mean I believe that for sure, And they they have.
You know, there's like accounts of kids that have memories
from lives that they're it's like, well, that didn't happen here,
you know what I mean? No, I love that, So
that to me is really interesting. And I also I
just really believe that if if on a scientific level,
like if energy can't be created or destroyed, where does
(29:47):
it go? It into somewhere else? And then it just
keeps moving. It's always bouncing around. It's always moving.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And if you see if you've ever seen a dead body,
have you seen a dead body?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I have seen it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Seeing a dead body makes you realize, oh, this is
like a car, this is like a skin suit. Yes,
outside of like the blood and the organs and the
you know, like the thing that animates all of it
is like our energy.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I also feel that way with like the Uncanny Valley,
Like do you know about that term? Yes? Yeah, It's
like you see like a mannequin and you look in
the eyes and you're like that those eyes they don't
have a soul, they don't have a spirit. It's just
a dead eye.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And like when you see a dead body, it's like
there's it's it's just a vessel. There's nothing, there's no
more life there.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's not looking at ai art.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, and it's different from when someone's sleeping, like if
someone's sleeping and staying still, it's different. I think.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh, first of all, they're way more attractive.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, but I wish we could, like if I do
to talk to a spirit, if I ever like am
able to talk to a ghost, I am going to say,
who do I ask to do my makeup before I die?
Because I need some rex because the funerals, the old,
the wakes that I've been to, you know, we need
to get some real makeup artistic.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It can be rough, that's for sure. Yeah. No, I've
I've seen some seen some mugs that they could have
used the tutoriums like you didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Do them like that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, for eat your feeling exactly. Well, let's do something
fun here. I'll give you an option. Okay, I've got
three options. You could choose from one of these, and
I'll tell you about a little story of the multiple choice. Yeah.
These are all like you know, real reported stories.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
The first one is about witches being witches. Witches being
witches Okay, Okay. The second one, it's a conspiracy theory
about Elvis is still alive and now he's somebody else.
But people know.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We've had enough.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't usually do conspiracy theories, but sometimes they're so silly.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh, I don't even mean so I'm saying ough to Elvis.
I'm like, we've had enough of that too.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Let's get lost already. You died years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Where do you go from? Austin Butler? I'm sorry. And
then the third one is a haunted toys arr us
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh, okay, in nineties. I'm going to go with toys
r us. I'm just curious about this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
First of all, I like that it's a period piece.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It is absolutely a period piece. Okay, So this I'm
obsessed with. It is a haunted toys arrest that has
since closed. It closed in twenty eight teen. It's located
in sunny Vale, California, which is Bay Area, Okay, somewhere
up there. It is now an ari I okay, which
(33:13):
what is that?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
An outdoors close?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I think it's like a camping store.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Camping store, Okay, so I don't now I tried to
do some googling. I tried to even look at yell reviews, and.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know, really, I mean ari I would just
assume their clientele doesn't believe in ghosts.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, is that doomsday?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
But yeah, I didn't find any reviews or anyone reporting
like a canteen flew across the room, somewhat set up
a tent, a.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Pair of skis fell from yeah, balcony.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And yeah, I didn't see anything like that.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But so basically, as the story goes, this toys or
Russ was constructed in nineteen seventy. I'm getting my info
from a mentalfloss dot com article.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Okay, so we know it's legit.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's very much legit. Though, I will say I know
of two TV shows that covered this in like the nineties.
I believe it was nineties where they kind of went
to the place and yeah, it was like she had
a moment in the nineties. This toys resident Suddy Veil
Okay employees claim to see dolls flying off the shelves
(34:31):
and balls bouncing down the aisles when they were alone.
They would feel a cold breeze on their back or
hear a disembodied voice call their name. Some witnesses reported
being touched by an invisible hand. Are you familiar God
with Sylvia Brown?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I know that name. Tell me who that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
She's like, this iconic psychic that was like really in
the media until the two thousand I believe less. Okay,
don't take facts from me. But she wrote a bunch
of books and she would do a lot of like
TV appearances. Now, as I always say, I believe psychics
are like comedians. They have good days and bad days. Sure,
(35:16):
she unfortunately had a lot of bad days that have
been recorded and compilated on YouTube of her on like
Montel Williams being like, did your daughter like whatever? And
then these people are like, no, I love that. It's great.
But you know what she had confidence? Yea, And that
is what I want from a psychic.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So she went up in there at the Toys Arrus
in Sunny Vale and it says she did a seance
and during the rituals she claimed to sense the spirit
of a Swedish preacher named Johnny Johnson. He worked on
the land, not.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
A preacher and a toys r us.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is Johnny john Keep it out, keep it got
here Johnson. So, Johnny Johnson before it was a toys
r Us worked on that land and he was helping
out on it was called the Murphy Farm in the
(36:21):
eighteen eighties, and he fell in love with the family
that lives There's daughter named Elizabeth. She didn't return his
affections and ran off with a lawyer from the East Coast.
Now Johnson, Johnny Johnson. He injured his leg chopping trees
(36:44):
and slowly bled out, Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
A preacher, what's he doing chopping trees?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know what, someone's got to chop them. But he
uh so this is all just what she gathered from
being in the barbie. So she's like, there's a preacher
name Johnny Johnson here. I'm telling you right now. He
(37:10):
chopped his leg.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It was Johnny Johnson. So uh.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She said that he is the most stubborn, ornery, argumentative
ghost she's ever met. This is what she wrote in
her book called The Other Side and Back Colon, a
Psychics Guide to Our World and Beyond. Okay, And she
also wrote, I've tried many times to explain to him
that his lifetime as Johnny Johnson has ended. He finally
(37:40):
got so tired of my nagging him about it that
he gave me an ultimatum. He said, if you tell
me I'm dead one more time, I'm not going to
talk to you anymore. Sylvia had so she also would
like she would go visit him frequently. She would go.
(38:00):
Sylvia would go to the Toys Arrest and be like,
I'm back Johnny, and.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's well, yeah, it's the only it's the only person
who not even he would believe her she's talking to him.
Was the cameras aren't rolling so exactly, Wow, he's her
lucky ghost.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Funny you say that, because I do actually have some
footage of the camera rolling while she took a visit
to see Johnny Jackson at the Toys r See this absolutely,
can you show us this clip? This is from a
TV show called That's Incredible.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh God, look at this.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah it's good. This seemingly normal toy store is a
popular place for local kids. Oh take me back, are
those who claim that it's a favorite haunt of a
very playful ghost.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Could a ghost be lurking here in this irresistible playground? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Ooh, skateboards, Oh it's a recreation. None of this is real.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Zovia Brown believe she made contact with the ghost. I
kept picking up this uh Joannie Johnston.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Johnny Johnston.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
The toy store is locate Johnny that spot where this
house once.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
He probably was like, if you don't start calling me Johnny.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
In the late eighteen hundreds by a prosperous settler named
Martin Murphy. Further research revealed that a local circuit preacher
sometimes lived on the Murphy farm.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
It appears that this is really I'd fallen in love.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
With Martin Murphy's daughter Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Maybe they've cooperated.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Even worked on the farm to pay for his room
and board. Unfortunately, Elizabeth paid little attention to him. One day,
while chopping wood, Johnson badly slashed his leg. Unable to
move or get help, he bled to death.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Leading to death is I've talked to doctors that I
do work with, and that's really not that painful. It's
sort of a slow tiredness. So he probably doesn't even
realize he has did ok now.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
We wondered if our site kick, Sylvia Brown, could make
contact with the ghosts that was loose in the store.
The best way was to set up a seance. We
hired professional.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Photographer little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, and it was in their cameras that the unbelievable
appeared to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I love that everyone in the eighties had the exact
same haircut.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I know, men, women doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I'm really feeling now I think so.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Now we're looking at her literally doing a very spookidly
lit saan.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Yeah, just moving along to the right, trays heading out
towards me.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Now she believes she sees him. Now, this is what's crazy.
They're snapping photos. They captured Yanni Johnson. Look at that
he's looking down.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
At his feet.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
These photographs were taking Wait, it's that that light light
talking to the John Johnson.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
The photograph in this proof sheet was taken with infrared film.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
At the same time the photograph on this.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Proof sheet was taken with high speed films.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
The incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is that whole man standing there.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Figure standing at the back of the picture that does
not show up in the photographs taken with high speed films.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh, John, you can find just like you just go on.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
To the other side. You really are caught in a
kind framework.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So yeah, they're claiming that they took the same photo
two times, and they in one of two different cameras,
and one camera captured that man standing there in shadow form.
That's what they claim on a TV show called That's Incredible. Now,
if it is, that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, that's pretty amazing. It sucks to have been a
psychic in the eighties and nineties, I do think, because
people are much more open to what they do now.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I think so. But also nowadays things get proven, Like
everybody has access to research to be like you're lying,
this isn't real, right or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
But I think like because of that, people are either
going to believe you where they're not true. So it's
like you're gonna find your people, you know what I mean.
Whereas back then, if somebody else didn't believe the same thing,
you'd be like, yeah, no, me either, right, But now
people will just go back and forth and be like, no,
this is what but have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
But have you seen this?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know? So I think people are kind of just
choosing a belief system now, yeah that works for them.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Well, I can see where you would believe in psychics
after those stories that you told me those are pretty
good psychics.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I still but I still am like, we'll see, but
it kind OF's like you can bomb.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Sometimes you're allowed silver. Sometimes you get a couple of
minutes on TV and it's not it didn't go your way.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Other times Yannisen shows up in a photo.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Right, so you kind of like leaning against a bookshelf
and he's doing he was doing a real like Marlboro
Man post.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
He was trying to look hot for that daughter. Yeah,
she was interested in her lawyer. Yeah, hey, can I
show you a doll that is haunted that's currently for
sale on eBay?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, it's time Wait how much?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Hang on, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
so frose Bud. Actually I forgot to write down how
much this doll is going for? Ge how much is
this doll going for?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, if it's free, then I'm I'm like, oh that
shit is haunted.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Exactly because here's the thing, Like the price matters, I believe,
because yeah, if it's free, if someone's just a couple bucks,
that is, that's that's what we're looking for in my opinion.
But all so, I don't know, I don't know a
lot of these, you know. It's another thing I look
at how many other haunted dolls are these people selling
(44:09):
because it's an industry.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, this one's going for seventy dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Seventy Okay, it's a little steep. Her name is Liz.
And as always, if you want to see what this
doll looks like, just go to the Instagram at ghosted
by Ros and there's a new tab. Actually there's a
new story highlight and it says dolls twenty twenty five.
(44:34):
Gee can you show us Liz please? You got it, Ros, Liz,
Liz the Haunted Door?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Did you give it a name like Liz?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
And she looks like that?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So what we got here is that's just an ugly doll.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
She could definitely use a wig.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Just because a doll is ugly doesn't mean it's haunted.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
That is the umping off point for a lot of these,
I think, yeah, to see it ugly. And she's she's
got a fabric.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, she's got socks for socks for arms.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, she has I'm guessing a porcelain face, a little
cracked maybe, Yeah. Her eyes are real close together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Cash Ptel that I don't know who that is. He's
like he's in Trump's administration.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh oh, and she's got the real tiny.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Little yeah mouth. Yeah, her face is very small for
her head.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I don't like that mouth. That's a Mitch McConnell mouth
with some lipstick on it and very teeny tiny little eyebrows. Anyway, Well,
here's the thing about all these dolls. They come with stories.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Is that a bloodstain on her shirt?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I assume. So here's what it says about Liz. It
says meat Liz a lively and flirtatious spirit attached to
this charming vintage doll. Liz's personality is as colorful as
her story, making her an unforgettable companion for those seeking
(46:20):
a playful and highly interactive spirit. Her sense of humor,
love for vintage dolls, and artistic energy make her one
of a kind. A little bit about her personality, She
has a cheeky, flirtatious sense of humor and loves to
make her presence known during.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Our Does this mean is she going to get involved
at night?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
It says during our first session through a spirit box,
which is like a ghost hunting device, she introduced herself
with a hilarious and bold comment stating, Okaya, now, hang
on a second. They did that thing where you like, say,
like a nod word, but you put asterisks. Yeah, you know,
(47:03):
so they put P and then four asterisks, so it
says I love.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Penis and I oh, I love penis.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It says I love penis, and then there's another one
a C and there's one, two, three, four, five asterisks.
See oh SKay, nope, see you. I'm not going to
keep spulling I love. Maybe she's bye, we don't know.
(47:39):
She passed away at thirty. She mentioned attaching to this
particular doll because of her love of vintage dolls, especially
ones like this. She describes herself as artistic with dark brown,
curly hair and striking blue eyes. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
She I'm sorry, but this personality would have attached to
a hot doll.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
I know, like a hot bisexual.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I don't know that she would have chosen that, but
it does say like her headline in the listing says
haunted doll, extremely active, flirtatious, LGBTQ positive, So she's an ally.
We don't know exactly what she's into, but something with.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It sounds like penis and cunts.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
You make up your mind on that one.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I have a theory about Liz Okay. I feel like
after years of inserting herself into probably several different polycules.
She probably was a really hot doll and then you
know it's just some wear and tear.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
She had been through it. Yeah, she's been through it
all genders.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, she's just kind of like she's been around and she's.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
That lady would ask you what time you were born?
That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Hey, the town bicycle, Liz, the town bicycle.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Everybody gets a ride. She's that bird scooter. Can I
play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Okay, please, it's time for EVP or ev please okay.
The term EVP it stands for Electronic Voice phenomenal. So
this is anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I've been ghosts. I've been ghost hunting before.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Ross, whoa, I just lost my headphones. Why didn't we
start with that.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
I've been ghost hunting. I went with my husband when
we were in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
We went ghost Tell me all of that and then
we'll get to the ghost.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Maybe it wasn't New Orleans, maybe it was North Carolina.
I'd have to ask him, but we did go on
a ghost tour. Yeah. Honestly, I was very distracted because
the guy who was running the ghost tour. He would
not stop talking about how his son used to go
on the ghost tour with him and now he's too embarrassed.
Oh that man and so yeah, and he had a
(50:15):
lot of rivalries with other.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Ghost tours and it gets competitive.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, he was like, you know, they don't have the
same equipment I have, but they think but they got
this massive following and you know, so and so I
was sort of like, well, now it just feels like
we're sort of supporting a small business ghost hunter whose
son wants nothing to do with him. And I can't
pay attention to the stories because I want to hear
(50:40):
more about his exactly. So that's probably why we didn't
start there. Oh but anyways, I know what an EVP.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Is, Okay, Okay, Yeah, because yeah, I've I've definitely gone
on a lot of tours and looked into a lot
of them. And you go to these websites and a
lot of times it'll say the only one in town
that has piece of equipment, yeah, or the only one
with access to this place. You know, these people are
(51:06):
no joke. They want to be the best one in town,
so their sons will talk to them. Okay, So this
first one is from CC the Huntress on YouTube. CC
recorded this at the Black Swan Inn, which is in Tilton,
New Hampshire, New Hampshire. What is this ghost saying? Rosebud? Okay?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Can I bud?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Sure? I mean it's clear as day?
Speaker 2 (51:46):
That's clear as day to you?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
No it is not.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
But okay, wait, let me just really tune in here.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Okay, that literally sounds like someone on the street going
comedy show.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, they're barking, you want to come to the comedy club.
We got people from Comedy Central.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
You can't think of a sadd way to die.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh what if it's the ghost of that of one
of those flyer people. Well, that is not what CC
the Huntress believes.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
What did she say?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I'll give you abc D. Did CC think it was
a wait? I need to hear it one more time
before key's options? Okay, did CC think it was a
that song? Ain't shit? B they're coming quick? C that's
(52:49):
how they sit? Or D I got a ship.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
I think it's that's how they sit, exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
What CC believes. I also think it could be I
got a shit. Yeah, Okay, here's one more. This one
was posted by ghosts Nat seventy one sixty seven on YouTube,
and it has had a place called the Black Dog
Wine Company in Oakdale, Pennsylvania. Why is it saying.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Get me out of Oakdale?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I could see that oak Well, it's not what ghosts
Ghosts NAT seventy one sixty seven thought. Did they think
it was a no I'm a bad kid? Oh? No,
b don't write a bad check? C Oh, that's some bullshit?
(54:02):
Or d are you sure you don't want to come
to the comedy show? I can't we play it again?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Don't write a bad check?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
They believe it is saying no, I'm a bad kid.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Oh, now I hear that.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I could hear bad check.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, I mean something like that. I would. I could
hear no I'm a bad kid after having heard it after.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But that's usually how it goes. But it's like to
pull it out of thin air.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's really really difficult to
break these things down.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Let's do one last thing.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Speaking of breaking things down, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm
just a bunch of paranormal stuff and I'm just gonna
bits some out it. Yeah, and you tell me if
you've got a thought about it if you got a
story about I don't know what it inspires.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, Bigfoot bullshit? Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't think
so it doesn't exist. I think it's you know, people
that spend a lot of time in the woods. Ari
I are lonely, Yes, ari I. I think Bigfoot is
people who take alpha brains like astrology.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not a I don't like the
great outdoors, so I'm not a big I don't have
much interest in going to look for Bigfoot. Yeah, but
I wish all of those people.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Well I do too, and also got enough to worry
about your living in the woods. You know there's bears
out there. Yeah, maybe just focus on the real threats exactly.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Well, that's that's a lot of this stuff. You know,
there's bigger issues than invisible people.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
For sure, But that's just fun and games Bigfoot when
you're looking for tracks and stuff, I don't want to
have to hike.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
But also it's like, what if we met Bigfoot and
he's like, I don't know, like a bro that like
just a really toxic masculine you know, It's like I
don't Yeah, there's a million ways it could be awful. Yes,
and you're spending a lot of time looking for something
that could be very disappointing. Right, Okay, what about wigi boards?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I just like there's something about them that really makes
me feel happy and really joyous. Yeah, because it reminds
me of like spooky sleepovers.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
And so you played it before?
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember like doing like a Oiji
board with a candle and someone spranging some perfume and
the candle going up and all of us being like,
you know, so, I just it's to me real or
not doesn't matter. Creates incredible memories, yes, and it honestly
(57:10):
is the purpose of what I think Ouigi board, whether
it brings in ghosts or not, you do connect. You
make a connection over a wigi board, whether it's with
a living or dead spirit. Right, So to me, that's valid.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
It gives the kids something to do to focus on
and stay away from their screens. Yeah, take a break
from the iPad and go talk to some demens. Kids
with a demon.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Connect with your own imagination.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
What about demons? Is that something that you subscribe?
Speaker 3 (57:46):
I do?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, I absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
In what sense? Like, do you think that there's like
a devil?
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I think there's a devil in Yeah, in the sense
that like there are demonicsits, and I think they do
attach themselves to us. And I think that they show
themselves in either the form of like addiction or like
spiritual malaise. Yeah. I just there's something about them that
(58:19):
I really do believe in. I think that's why The
Exorcist is such a scary movie because to me, whether
it's Satan or the devil, if the idea that something
can enter your body and take over your mind is
very real, Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
Well, and that's the thing. I think a lot of
times it's kind of personified as you know, some kind
of horned creature. But it's like or could it just
be bad energy?
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, maybe you just got like too famous, too fast,
and now you're a demon.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Sorry, I couldn't help it. Everyone just wanted me. Okay,
let's do one last one.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (59:10):
What about UFOs?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
UFOs? I don't I know that they exist because they
it's been confirmed. Right. Do I believe that the drones
over New Jersey were UFOs?
Speaker 4 (59:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Do you think aliens would want to go to New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Absolutely not, absolutely not. But also maybe they just needed
like a bunch of people that like to gossip a lot,
you know, and I think that New Jersey people are
they do like to talk.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know, you get some chatter going.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
There's that kind of old joke about like how foreign
countries get our media later, you know, so like certain
things are like brand new to them, but it's like
it's from years ago. Yes, I wonder if they like
recently got the Sopranos and there they wanted to go
see where it was shot. You know, it probably takes
(01:00:05):
a while to get up there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, they're like, what is gabba ghoul?
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah, they're like, we don't know how it ended. It
just went black. Yeah, we want to go down there and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
See you see if he's okay, Yeah, that's a really
good theory.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's that's my theory. Okay. But do you think that
they are like beings that live on another planet or.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I don't see why not? Yeah, I don't see. Yeah,
I can't see why not. I think out of all
the things that we've talked about today, that makes the
most sense.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Right, Well, it's the most like physical like tangible or
it's something like the idea of people living on a
planet I mean we do, so why can't.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Why couldn't that? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think
obviously that they are people. I think people are We're
our own thing, you know what I mean. Like, there's
not people living in the ocean or are there? Well,
there could be, but I don't want to see them.
Very well, I don't want to see I don't want
to see them. We only don't even like the look
of fish. So I don't want to see a person.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Who looks like a fish, yeah, and like lives with
the fishes and acts like a fish. Yeah, well that's mermaids.
You know, a lot of people, A lot of people
come back and they say, you know, I was out
there and I saw a mermaid and she was hideous.
That's what they say. All other times, doll, that makes sense,
they say, like it wasn't cute, Like no, get that
(01:01:35):
idea out of your head. This thing was like fish head, yes,
with like lady legs or I actually I don't know,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I could see like a fish with tits. Okay, that's hot, yeah,
but not hot tits.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, that very well could be like some some nasty fish.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
With ye a movie where the guy fucked the fish.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Which one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I'm gonna go ahead and say, like, didn't it win
an oscar?
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah? The shape of water?
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yes, yeah, that seems to me like what what a
mermaid would look like for real.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, like a creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, kind
of a thing. I don't know. I don't find that
is scary because I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Land, bitch, Yeah, come up here, get up here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I'm not going down there. Come up here, and let's
see how long you can last. I'll put one arm
behind my back, let's go, let's fight.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Let's do it on my territory, on my turf.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
That's how I feel about sharks too. Sharks are like
one of my biggest fears.
Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
But if you saw one on land, oh, come over here, bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
But like, but if I'm in.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
There, I don't trust anything in there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I don't do you go in the ocean, I don't
even eat seafood. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't want anything down there. That's I don't want
to eat eat food from Mars, and I don't want
to eat anything from the from the water.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's I you know, this is not a completely accurate statement,
but both up and in the ocean are like both
very little discovered. We don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I don't. I don't even like it just on
a food based level. I don't like that fish look
the exact same dead as they do alive.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Oh you know what I'm saying, because I don't have
souls to bring it back to the corpses.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yuck.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah. Yeah, well anyway, thanks for doing that. I love you.
This is really fun. So do you have you do
you have anything you want to tell us?
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
You know, do I have anything booked? Am I booked?
Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
And you?
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Do you want us to where do you want us
to follow?
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Follow me at rosebud Baker on tic tac Instagram YouTube.
I have a special coming out on Netflix February eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Congrat you. It's called The mother Load.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah, so that's very exciting. And it's an hour that
I shot pregnant and then a year later after I'd
had the baby, and it's mixed together into one hour.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
That's so cool. So one year later you okay, Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
It talks about like miscarriage, IVF, all the all that shit,
and spirit babies and spirit babies a little bit there's
like nods to it, but I don't, you know, it's
a comedy club audience.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Sure, but yeah, I'm really really exciting. Congrats, thank you.
And then SNL. Honestly, I think people need to watch
that episode about the writers at SNL on Peacock on Peacock,
what do you know what it's called. It's I don't
SNL documentary beyond SNL something it's called. That's incredible. Go
(01:05:08):
watch it. Just go to Peacock and type in the
SNL documentary about writers and then you'll see Rosebud running
from the cameras.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
But turning around and running.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But it's like, people don't necessarily go, oh my god.
The person that wrote this sketch is like, you know,
I just I want people to you know. Yeah, people
don't always know that those are written by people, right,
and those jokes are very funny. Yeah, anyway, thanks for doing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
This, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
This was so fun, bless you. Thank you so much
to Rosebud, and make sure you check out Rosebud's new
Netflix comedy special mother Load on the eighteenth of February. God,
this podcast is really it's a good one. It's good.
(01:06:00):
I like this podcast. I like it a lot, and
I appreciate you for listening and tell everyone you know
about it. I love you all, both living and dead.
But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
haunt me. Okay, by this has been an exactly right production.
(01:06:26):
Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I
read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,
so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
You can send a DM or voice message to the
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roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.
My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the Alarm Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
(01:07:09):
is the Petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the
hair Raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by
the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced
(01:07:32):
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, The Spooky Georgia hard Stark,
and the frightening Danielle Kramer
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