March 10, 2025 • 28 mins
🎧 Episode Overview
🔥 Your past may have shaped you, but it doesn’t define you. ~ Maurice F. Martin
What do you do when you feel stuck, broken, and searching for something more? How do you heal from wounds you never asked for? Maurice F. Martin knows that struggle—he lived it.
In this episode of Grace in the Grind, Maurice shares his raw, unfiltered journey from pain to purpose—breaking free from childhood trauma, father wounds, and the deep doubts that held him back. This isn’t just a story about healing. It’s a call to action.
💥 Inside this conversation, we unpack:
✅ Breaking free from past pain & stepping into healing.
✅ Why faith is the foundation for transformation.
✅ The hardest part of healing—and why most people avoid it.
✅ How to stop searching for worth and start walking in it.
✅ Turning trauma into testimony—your story has power.
📌 If you’ve ever felt stuck, unseen, or like your past is holding you back—this is your wake-up call.
💡 Stop searching. Start healing.
📺 Watch on YouTube & Subscribe! www.leadwithim.live
💡 Key Takeaways from This Episode
🔴 Your Pain Has a Purpose
- Your wounds don’t disqualify you—they prepare you.
- Everything you’ve been through has shaped your story. Now, it’s time to own it.
- Your past may have broken you, but it doesn’t have to define you.
🔴 The Hardest Part of Healing? Facing Yourself
- You can’t heal what you refuse to confront.
- Forgiveness isn’t weakness—it’s the key to freedom.
- The most dangerous lie? Believing you’ll never be enough.
🔴 Faith, Breakthrough & Walking in Purpose
- Faith doesn’t erase pain—it helps you push through it.
- Your identity isn’t in what happened to you—it’s in what God says about you.
- Healing isn’t an event, it’s a process—start walking in it.
💬 Power Quotes from Maurice F. Martin
🔥 "Everything you need, you already have."
🔥 "Your past may have shaped you, but it doesn’t define you."
🔥 "Stop searching for healing—start walking in it."
🔥 "You don’t need to be perfect to be powerful."
🔥 "Your pain has a purpose. It’s time to see it."
📚 Resources & Links Mentioned
📖 Maurice’s Books & Resources:
🌍 Website: Maurice F. 's Website
📲 Instagram: @Mauricefmartin on Instagram
📸 Facebook: Maurice F. 's Facebook page
🐣 X: @Mauricefmartin on X
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Welcome to Grace and theGrind, the podcast where we dive
deep into the journeys ofheart centered and purpose driven
leaders and entrepreneurs.
We're here to equip andencourage you on your journey.
So let's get started and findthe grace within the grind.
This is Grace in the Grind.
And now your host, Jim Burgoon.
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Welcome to Grace in the Grind.
We're here to tell theinspiring stories behind some of
the most successful entrepreneurs.
And today to the show, we justwould like to welcome our new friend,
Maurice.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Hey, thank you so much forhaving me.
I'm excited about this conversation.
Same.
So take the next 30 toactually 60 to 90 seconds and tell
people what you do.
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Ooh, 60 to 90, that's a dangerous.
It's a dangerous period oftime for me.
So I am a motivational speaker.
I am a transformational life coach.
I'm an author, a Christian counselor.
I'm a whole bunch of things.
The easy way to say it isthat, and we'll get into it later
on.
But I'm a person who had totransform his life.
I started off my career as aprofessional speaker in my 20s.
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I had the opportunity to workwith Grammy winners and Emmy winners
and to make a little bit ofheadway in the music industry.
But behind closed doors, I wasjust a very broken and bitter person,
very dark in a lot of ways.
And so as I transformed, Irealized that the truest gift that
I have is the gift of helpingother people to transform.
So whether I'm in front of aroom full of people, or I'm working
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with a business, or speakingin front of a school, or I'm sitting
down one on one with an individual.
The goal is always not just tomotivate you, but to motivate you
to change and motivate you tobuild habits that can shift your
life in a new direction.
Awesome.
Thank you for that wonderful intro.
And so let's, let's.
I want to actually start theconversation off because you said
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something is my gift ishelping others and particularly helping
others to change.
When did you start noticingthat was your gift?
Oh, that's a great question.
Here's the funny part is thatI've known my entire life that was
a gift.
But sometimes gifts look likeburdens in the wrong part of life.
So what I mean by that is thatfor most of my life, I remember being
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12, 13, and I'd have a crushon whatever girl and she'd say, hey,
is it okay if I call you later?
And I'd be Like, oh my gosh,this is it.
This is the girl that I'vebeen waiting to call me.
And when she would call, shewould say, somebody told me you were
good at this.
What am I good at?
And right.
And it would be somebodyasking me for things, feedback, asking
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me for wisdom, asking me for advice.
By the time I got into theprofessional world, it was similar.
I was the training manager ofa facility and then I was a corporate
trainer.
So I, I was a musician.
And I would tour on theweekends and I would work jobs during
the week.
And people would come to mewith their problems, with their issues,
with when, when they feltstruck, when they, when they felt
stuck, when they felt just overwhelmed.
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And I always had a way oflistening to them and giving them
healthy perspective.
But at those times in my life,it felt like a burden.
It felt, I know, ain't nobodypaying me to do this.
Why am I giving this personall this stuff?
Later on I realized that whatfelt like a burden was a blessing.
But that took maturity andgrowth and realizing, wow, it was
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staring me in the face thewhole time.
Yeah, that's great.
First and foremost, man,getting dates only to find out they
just wanted what you had.
Oh, it was.
I had some.
I could.
That happened more times thanI could, than I'd like to admit.
I'm now seeing why.
We're going to dig into whythe bitterness and where that came
from.
Because you had mentioned thatin your intro.
Absolutely.
Maybe this is part of wherethat came from, but we'll dig into
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that in a second.
So you mentioned somethingabout being maturing and seeing the
difference between burden andblessing and stuff like that.
Did you find that because youwere naturally good at helping people,
did you find that there was anarrogance to that eventually developed
into much more of a humbleservant as opposed to an arrogant
come see me kind of thing?
Was that something you dealt with?
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That's a great question.
I would say that.
No, it didn't turn toarrogance for me, but it did definitely
for me turn into a very selfseeking thing.
Right.
That.
So that the audience knows alittle bit of my history.
I.
My mom and dad had me.
That's how life starts.
There's no stork.
Right.
And dad left immediately andmom marries a different man.
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That man is very abusivetowards her.
And as I grow older, becomesvery abusive towards me.
Physically abusive, even more so.
Mentally abusive, verbally abusive.
And so I grew up in thishousehold where my head is always
on a swivel and my heart isalways crushed in other Words, I'm
beat up and beat down and toldwhat I can never do and what I can
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never be.
And so low self esteem and lowself worth were really a part of
my identity.
I identified as being a personwho didn't think much of himself.
So now when you ask me aquestion, what happened to you when
you started helping people?
Now I need you to tell me howmuch I helped.
I need to hear how great I wasat helping you.
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Because if not, I'm not sureif my life has meaning, and I'm not
sure if my life has worth.
And so when I first really,when I first became a counselor and
then when I first startedpreaching and teaching and just so
many of the things that I doin life, people would come to me
and say, maurice, like, youmade such an impact on me a week
ago, a month ago, whatever.
I can only get better if youkeep helping me.
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And that's an ego stroke.
Right, right.
But ultimately, how I look atthings as a professional and as an
entrepreneur is I do my jobwell when I equip you to do yours.
That's right.
So you start to understand I'mthankful that I helped you.
And by all means, I'm willingto help you again, but I want to
help you.
And that's the maturation I needed.
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I like that.
So this brings up anotherquestion, because I know the listeners,
like I'm a former pastor and Iknow several.
Some of my listeners are ministry.
And we see a lot of,especially in ministry, a lot of
code.
Oh, yeah.
I need to be needed.
So with you searching for thishole to be filled, because that's
really what that is.
I'm filling the self esteemthat I never had.
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How did you find?
There was the maturing, butthere had to be a healing process.
What does that look like?
Oh, how.
What does it still look like?
Yeah.
I believe that healing is lifelong.
So the pivot point for me inmy life was it was 2016.
My music career by then had fizzled.
I was in my early 30s and mymusic career had fallen apart.
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I was working full time and Iwas really working jobs where I was
making the most money I'd ever made.
But I was miserable.
I was empty.
I wasn't feeling like I wasmaking an impact.
And by then I was drunk almostevery night.
I was high almost every day.
I was just in a very dark place.
The suicidal thought startedto creep up and creep in, and I literally
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was waking up day after day,like, upset.
Why am I awake today?
Why is this life Thing still happening.
I got in a car one day, Juneof 2016, and as I drove, it occurred
to me that I did not want toarrive to work.
Like, I don't know if I'mgoing to go off to the left with
my car and swerve into the embankment.
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Am I going to go right?
How can I just get this over with?
Because I don't want to dothis life thing anymore.
And I had what I can only callthe divine encounter that I heard
the voice of God for the first time.
In that moment, I actually hada vision.
And I don't always talk aboutit, but I'll share it with your audience.
Today I had a vision where Iwas standing on a stage.
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So I go from driving down theroad, I'm going about 90 miles per
hour, I'm thinking aboutkilling myself.
And all of a sudden, I'm inthe middle of a vision.
And I'm standing on the stagein the back left of the stage.
I'm looking out towards theright of the stage, and there are
people as far as the eye could see.
And I'm preaching the word of God.
And at that point, I wouldhave probably called myself agnostic,
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maybe.
I mean, I went to church as akid and everything, and I believed
that God was real.
But I was not praying every day.
I was not in my word.
I was not really moving inthat direction.
And I saw that I heard myself preaching.
And immediately I was back inmy car, and God was speaking.
And it was the first time I'dever heard his voice.
And so after that moment, itwas a defining moment because I realized
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I was going to have to changeand I was going to have to heal.
And I knew it was going to be painful.
And so from that point, it wastherapy sessions, it was prayer.
It was eventually speech,spiritual guidance as I joined the
church and then startedgetting honest with people, pastors
and elders of the church andthings like that.
And it was just several years.
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And what I tell people now isthey say, how did you do it?
And I always say, how am Idoing it?
I'm still healing.
I'm still saying, God, thereare broken parts of me that I'm giving
to you and surrendering toyou, because I don't want to stay
broken or I want you to beable to get the glory from my brokenness.
And that's the consistentheart posture for me.
I love that.
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So this brings up a wholeplethora of questions.
Okay, we're going to startwith this one, because I find this,
this is something that a lotof think people struggle with.
The navigation, you saidsomething super powerful, which was,
I'm still healing.
It took several years.
How do you navigate in a lotof church world?
I'll just use church worldwhere it's, if I pray, I should be
instantly healed versus thisis a lifelong process because they
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are not the same.
They're not.
I always point people to scriptures.
I think that for us asbelievers, we always have to be grounded
in the word of God andsometimes we have to pay attention
even to what the word doesn't say.
So as an issue, as an example,the woman with the issue of blood,
we talk about her a lot.
She falls on the feet ofJesus, she reaches for the hem of
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her garment, she gets thehealing from him.
Jesus says, then go and sin no more.
Your faith has healed you.
Right?
She has to now go live therest of her life.
And part of what she's goingto live is understanding that for
12 years she'd been an outcastof society.
She was unclean, so she couldnot go and be around some of the
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people.
And there's going to be aremnant of memories and maybe even
depression or sadness oranxiety or whatever it is that she
has to deal with.
She has to go live life.
What I always tell people iswhen you see the moment that they
meet God, that is then theproof that they will need God for
the rest of the journey.
It's not the moment where Godmakes you so fixed that you don't
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need Him.
It's that's the moment thatproves that you do need Him.
That's where you start toreally pray.
That's when you start toreally trust.
That's the beginning of thejourney, not the end.
And so I think sometimes inour name it and claim it, kind of
a society where we almosttake, tell it that if you pray God
will do it, then it's done.
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Those words are all true.
But that doesn't mean that youdon't still need God, right?
You still need God in themidst of it as he's doing what he's
doing.
Because he's not just doingit, he's working on you.
Sometimes when I pray forsomething, God is not just trying
to do what I asked for.
He's.
He wants to do more than that.
The word says exceedingly,abundantly more than you can ask
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or think.
Which means that I'm like,hey, God, I could use success in
my business.
And God is like, you could usethat, but you could also use to Be
healed in this area, to befixed in this area, to mature in
this area, to grow and developin that area.
God wants more for me than Iwant for myself.
Absolutely.
And that's something that youcan clearly see in the word.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
There's even ports.
Parts where I, over the years,talking with people, God wants to
be successful inside of youbefore you're successful externally.
And I think we miss thatbecause we all want external.
Which goes back to your story.
Trying to use what's around usto fill us.
Yes, absolutely.
No, I was just gonna say, oh,yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a hundred percent it.
God is enough.
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But it's hard for us in ourfeeble understanding of life to get
that.
And when I say feeble, I'm notdissing anybody.
I'm saying, for me included, Ithink that most of us have a desire
to play God.
We think we know what's best.
We think we know what thesituation needs and we don't.
God knows.
That's it.
So now let's take a layer off.
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Let's.
All right, we're healing.
We've got some foundational stuff.
We've chatted.
Let's talk about theramifications of an absent father.
Yeah.
And.
And then not only just theabsent father, but the abusive father.
Oh, yeah.
How did that play into thedeepening of looking in other external
places for validation?
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And then how does it changethroughout your life to where now
you're a father?
Take me through some of thejourney of the struggles from being
in that environment to whereyou are now.
Such a great question.
I really believe that amother's role is incredibly important,
and we live in a society thattries to dampen it.
And the same is true of afather's role and a father's voice.
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And so the one of the firstthings that you asked about was the
void of a father.
And so I grew up alwayswondering what was wrong with me
that Daddy didn't stay.
That was a very real thoughtas a very young kid.
And then to wonder, why didmommy marry somebody that daddy doesn't
want?
Excuse me, that doesn't want me.
That was very real for my life.
And so I certainly looked forvalidation over the years and so
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many different places,including as a musician standing
on stages, trying to sellalbums, things that I've done, wanting
somebody to make me feel likemy good enough was good enough.
The breaking point for mereally was that I realized at some
point, boy, this is going tobe tough for me to trust the heavenly
Father if I don't trust the Father.
And so I had to be willing toreally take a deep dive into healing
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those father wounds.
Because when you tell me Godis a good father, I don't know what
that means.
I don't have a comprehensionof that.
I know that my father wassomeone to be afraid of.
I know that.
I was told that.
That his harshest moments werethe ones where he said, I love you
afterwards.
And those were the onlymoments he said, I love you.
Right?
So when you tell me that Godis a loving father, I'm like, oh,
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God, what is that going tomean for my life?
Is he going to punish me allthe time?
Is he going to be harsh on meall the time?
And so I think that I am.
I'm not the.
The deviation to the norm.
I think I'm more normal thanpeople understand that that are broken
relationships with parents orgrandparents or aunties and uncles
or whoever it is who have beenour caretakers directly impact how
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we view God.
They do.
They absolutely do.
And we have to be willing togo on the journey of letting God
show us his true character.
Know that.
That God will never leave younor forsake you, that God paid the
ultimate price for you out of love.
And that even when God judges,even when God chastises those he
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chastises, he hastens like that.
Even when there is anythingthat comes to me, it's coming out
of love, out of wanting to beback in order, wanting to meet me,
to be back in alignment in hisgood graces.
And so that has been a journey.
I will tell everybody.
I've done more therapysessions than you could understand.
I've done what's called emdr,which is trauma therapy.
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I have done more journalentries, more prayers of forgiveness
than you could possibly know,because I want to have a more pure
understanding of who God is.
So now this brings up some.
Really, this brings up acuriosity for me as somebody who
has a father wound, abusivefather, abandoned, all that stuff
too.
Did you.
And, and now, dad, did youfind that you had more healing prior
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to or post having your own children?
Oh, post for sure.
And it's not even close.
I had a prayer.
Now I'm one of these people.
I really believe that God speaks.
I believe that his.
That he can actually speak to us.
And so one day I was prayingand I said, God, I've got these babies
and I want to love on them.
And I've never seen what aloving father looks like.
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And he said, but you have seenwhat a loving Father, looks like,
look at the way you're lookingat your children.
There was a moment in prayerwhen God was saying, look, I'm doing
it now.
See?
See, what happens in our brainsometimes is that our mind will start
to look at our lack.
What we don't have experiencewith, what we haven't done, what
we haven't seen.
Our brains go to very negative spaces.
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Transformation is about the.
The renewing of the mind.
Right.
It's about me being able tosay, wait a second, it's not just
about what hasn't been done,it's about what God is doing now.
And I realized that the waythat I look at my son is different
than anyone looked at me.
So I've seen the love of God.
I realized that the way that Isay, hey, you don't need me to yell
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at you right now.
You need me to gently explainsomething to you or to give you grace,
or for me to say, hey, I'msorry, I got it wrong.
That all of those moments, Godis showing me who he is as he's working
on my character.
And I think that for anybodywho is, maybe they're starting fatherhood
now, they're startingmotherhood now, and they're saying,
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I have so many wounds.
If you let God use the journeyyou're on, he will heal those wounds
through the parenting, throughthe marriage, through whatever it
is that you're going through.
Yeah.
100 agree with you, man.
That's good.
I remember, like, when I wasfirst having my kids, right before
I struggled through the fatherwounds, like, two years, God took
me on some intensives.
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And I remember him saying tome, he said, he says, I'm about to
do something in your life thatyou have no frame of reference for.
And then we, like, literallytwo, three months later, we found
out we were pregnant.
Right after I heard that.
Wow.
And it was just like my lifehas been like, you have no frame
of reference, but I'm gonnashow you.
So, yeah, no, I connect withyour story, man.
I appreciate it.
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So let's move into somequestions, like some direction, where
it goes.
Because you're a stagespeaker, you're finding healing.
Yep.
And you're.
You've been through somereally traumatic things.
How do you maintain thathealth, being in the limelight once,
being somebody who needed the limelight.
How do you maintain thathealthy, that health, the atmosphere
on the inside of you?
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It's a great question.
I.
I think it goes to my heartposture, which is that obedience
is greater than sacrifice.
Right.
And so for me to Be obedient.
I have to get in front of thepeople and I have to about my, my
mouth.
But part of my obedience isthat I have to be willing to be and
live the testimony.
So I can't just get in frontof everybody and say, hey, I'm a
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polished speaker.
Look how good I am.
I have to be able to show youI'm a polished speaker who God has
re rescued.
Look how much he's done.
So I, I realize that there hasto be a level of vulnerability in
me when I speak.
I have to tell the storiesmaybe I'd rather not tell.
I have to be honest about thethings I'd rather not be honest about
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because it's in myvulnerability that people actually
see God.
It's when I say, hey, I don'thave it all together.
I'm still praying, I'm still working.
I still get it wrong with mywife, I still get it wrong with my
kids, and yet I'm still here.
Right?
That's when people not onlysee themselves and can identify themselves,
they can see God's hand now.
And that has been the thingthat kind of stabilizes me, that
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humbles me and that reallygrounds me to the moments with the
work that I do.
So then what is like somethinglike you would say right now, this
is something I still strugglewith or struggle through.
What is something that, whatdoes that look like?
Great question.
Self doubt is the first onethat comes to mind.
I have confidence issues.
So when I'm speaking rightnow, I don't have any confidence
issues.
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I believe that I am offeringup whatever it is that is needed
for the moment because I'mtapped in.
Right.
The moment this interview isover, my brain starts going, oh my
gosh, did you say that right?
Did you do that right?
Did you handle this right?
I don't know if this was thebest way.
Oh, you probably screwed this.
Is anybody really going to listen?
And so I have to go throughthe journey of finding my confidence
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in God.
That is an ongoing process.
I, whether I'm speaking at aschool, preaching from a stage, whatever
I'm doing, the attack comes tomy mind afterwards.
And so it is finding theconfidence and the courage to be
all the way myself and to notlet those doubts and worries stop
me because they can muffle meif I'm not careful, they will silence
me.
Oh, I guess I don't haveanything to say after all.
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So I find this is valuable.
This is super valuable.
So what does that process look like?
Because saying I, I'm tryingTo find the confidence is everybody's
going to have that.
Oh, what they think that looks like.
But what is that for you?
I'm looking for the confidenceof God.
Walk us through some of that.
Absolutely.
We talk a lot in life aboutsoul searching.
The question is, are youactually searching for your soul?
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And then for the believer, areyou searching for the spirit that
is supposed to be guiding the soul?
That's the journey.
One thing that I say to peopleall the time when I'm dealing with
professionals and working withprofessionals is they say, look,
we've been taught that we'resupposed to be different people professionally
and personally.
I think that's a bunch of crap.
Because the reality is the onething that is similar between your
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personal you and yourprofessional you, you.
You're always there.
If you're off at home, itoften leads you to being off at work.
If you're off at work, you'lltake it home.
And though we learn how tocompartment to a certain level, there's
a cross section.
So anytime that.
That I lose my confidence, Ihave to say, step one, let me evaluate
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what's happening on the insideof me.
What are the voices ofcriticism saying to me?
I have to know because youcannot fix what you do not identify.
Right?
I'm going to say that againbecause somebody needs it.
You cannot fix what you don't identify.
So you have to know what thevoice is saying.
Now I have to say, all right,what of those things is true?
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There could be some truth inthe criticism.
Sometimes your brain knowsthings and has identified some issues.
Okay, do those things actuallymake me a bad person?
Do these things actually makeme a bad communicator?
Does it actually mean I didn'tdo a good job?
I try to find the truth, andthen I challenge the lies.
My brain is telling me that Ididn't show up, but I actually did
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show up.
And I remember in the middleof it that, blah, blah, blah, I begin
to challenge myself with the truth.
Scripture says that we aremore than overcomers, right?
Which means we're not just overcomers.
So that tells me I don't justhave to overcome something because
I can rest in the peace of Godeven before I've overcome it.
I'm more than an overcomer.
So I'm saying, God is always peace.
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Where is God right now?
While my brain is anxious,while my brain is worried, my.
While my brain is overwhelmed,where's God?
And I.
And I actually take deepbreaths and I begin to scan.
He says he will never leave meor forsake me.
Even when I'm in the valley ofthe shadow of death, he's behind
me.
So if that's the case, where's God?
Where's Holy Spirit?
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Where is He?
I.
Those are times to pray.
Those are times to remindyourself of a scripture that's helpful
for you.
Those are sometimes times tojournal or write things down.
But what I tell people is youhave to know how you feel.
You have to understand what istrue and what you feel.
Then you have to challengewhat is not.
To find the place of peace.
That's.
It's a journey.
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It's a process.
It doesn't look the same every time.
Sometimes I think one of theproblems we have as humans is we
want everything to be robotic.
Everybody wants to sell youthree steps to peace and five steps
to financial.
Okay, right, that's great.
But the reality is, right,even in the midst of a step, there's
going to be a process.
So whatever it is that you'reworking on, it's always going to
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be harder than they make it seem.
Because the process changesday by day.
Because you change day by day.
Man, that's so good.
So as we start landing thisepisode, there's one question and
then two.
Two.
Well, actually three questions.
So the first one, before weget down, how do you stay sharp?
Oh, good question.
I keep living life and I tryto stay.
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I try to stay awake.
Okay, here's what I mean.
Do you ever get those momentswhere you drive somewhere and you
get to the place and you don'tknow how you got there?
Yeah.
You get to the work day andyou start the process and you look
up one day and you lost your day.
I work to stay awake and mindful.
Sometimes I set alarms for myself.
The alarm goes off and I go,hey, are you around?
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Are you there?
Are we with it?
I work to stay present whenI'm around my family, when I'm in.
When I'm around my friends andmy presence may not look like yours.
I'm pretty introverted.
I'm actually quiet, whichshocks people.
So for me, it is, am I present?
Because anytime you'represent, you have the ability to
stay sharp because you'rehoned in.
You're locked in.
What is best for me right now?
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What is the thing that I needright now?
When you're.
When you've fallen asleep andyou've been lulled asleep, there
is no fine tuning.
So for me, it is a constantprocess of making sure I'm here,
fully here.
I like to listen to music.
Music helps me a lot since I'ma musician, right?
I listen to a lot of worship music.
I sit and I pr.
I meditate.
I try to like get into thatplace of just.
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I'm listening to meditationmusic right now.
You guys just don't know it.
It's instrumental worship music.
So I listen to music and Ijust get my head to go away and quiet
my mind and get to a placewhere it's me and God.
Those are the ways that Ipersonally try to fine tune.
I have different things that Ishare with clients when I work with
clients as well.
But even what I shared aboutthe alarms, that's one of the first
things I tell clients.
Set an alarm for yourself.
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Four or five alarms duringyour day.
The alarm goes off, askyourself, are you really there?
Are you really present?
And if not, what can you do tohone the skill right now?
Do you need to take a walk?
Do you need to take a breath?
Do you need to write something down?
Do you need to remind yourselfof a scripture?
Do you need to call a friendand get some perspective?
Do you need to watch a video?
What needs to happen?
And so I let that promptpeople, in order to take action,
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to fine tune.
Yeah, that's really good.
My wife, what did she do?
She bought bands.
The old school, like rubber.
That Rubber bands you put onyour wrist.
And each one of them aredifferent colors, like four or five
different colors.
And it says, check in with yourself.
Oh, that's good.
She wears a different colorevery day.
So with that being said, sidenote, curiosity.
Instrument.
Do you play?
Singer.
Singer.
I figured that.
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So I'm a former trumpet player.
That was more out of my ownpersonal curiosity.
I was also a low brass player.
I first went to college as aeuphonium player, if you know what
that is.
I do, I do.
I was a brass player for a while.
Trumpet.
So with that being said, as wecome down to the episode and you
of the audience know wherewe're heading with this, we asked
the question, what is a wisdombomb you would leave for the guest,
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for the listener.
And that is simply somebodyportable truth that they can take
and put in their lives today.
What would that be for you?
What would be your hashtagwisdom bomb?
Everything that you need, you have.
So often in life we think thatsomething is missing on the inside
of us.
And so we go searching forthis magical mythical thing that
will help us be healthy and whole.
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But the truth is that you werecreated in the image of God.
You were fearfully andwonderfully made.
The Lord is your shepherd, soyou lack nothing.
And so there's theunderstanding that everything you
need is already there right now.
Stop looking for something in friends.
Stop looking for something inthe latest fad and the latest trend,
and realize that everythingyou have is already within you.
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Powerful.
How do we find you?
How do people connect with you?
Come find me online.
You can find me on my website,mauricefmartin.com there's some freebies
there.
You can sign up for themailing list.
Maybe you've heard me todayand you thought, man, I really want
to bring you in to speak somewhere.
You can sign up right there.
Also, I do free clarity calls.
So if somebody said, hey, youknow what, I'd love to just run some
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things by you.
You can do a free clarity callwith me.
I'd love to sit down and talkto you and see if you might even
be a good fit to be one of mycoaching clients.
So that's the easiest way.
And then of course, socialmedia at Maurice F.
Martin on all social media.
Awesome.
And so for you, the listener,we will be putting that in the show
notes for you so that makethem make sure it's easy, it's accessible.
And for you to go and connectwith Maurice here because powerful
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man of God, powerful in whathe's doing because you can tell from
this episode that he's gonethrough a lot and he's overcome a
lot.
So make sure you connect.
With that being said, Maurice,thank you for being on the show with
us today.
Hey, thank you again forhaving me.
This is great, what you'redoing, and I hope it goes far.
I appreciate that.
And for you, the listener, youhave been listening to Grace in the
Grind, well, we're here totell the inspiring stories behind
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some of the successfulentrepreneurs that you and I know.
And with that being said, makesure you leave a comment or review
on whatever platform you'relistening to and I'll see you on
the next episode or even aprevious one.
But with that being said,we'll talk to you soon.
This has been Grace and the Grind.
We hope you've enjoyed the show.
If you did, make sure to,like, rate and review.
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in the Grind.
Welcome to Grace and theGrind, the podcast where we dive
deep into the journeys ofheart centered and purpose driven
leaders and entrepreneurs.
We're here to equip andencourage you on your journey.
So let's get started and findthe grace within the grind.
This is Grace in the Grind.
And now your host, Jim Burgoon.
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Welcome to Grace in the Grind.
We're here to tell theinspiring stories behind some of
the most successful entrepreneurs.
And today to the show, we justwould like to welcome our new friend,
Maurice.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Hey, thank you so much forhaving me.
I'm excited about this conversation.
Same.
So take the next 30 toactually 60 to 90 seconds and tell
people what you do.
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Ooh, 60 to 90, that's a dangerous.
It's a dangerous period oftime for me.
So I am a motivational speaker.
I am a transformational life coach.
I'm an author, a Christian counselor.
I'm a whole bunch of things.
The easy way to say it isthat, and we'll get into it later
on.
But I'm a person who had totransform his life.
I started off my career as aprofessional speaker in my 20s.
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I had the opportunity to workwith Grammy winners and Emmy winners
and to make a little bit ofheadway in the music industry.
But behind closed doors, I wasjust a very broken and bitter person,
very dark in a lot of ways.
And so as I transformed, Irealized that the truest gift that
I have is the gift of helpingother people to transform.
So whether I'm in front of aroom full of people, or I'm working
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with a business, or speakingin front of a school, or I'm sitting
down one on one with an individual.
The goal is always not just tomotivate you, but to motivate you
to change and motivate you tobuild habits that can shift your
life in a new direction.
Awesome.
Thank you for that wonderful intro.
And so let's, let's.
I want to actually start theconversation off because you said
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something is my gift ishelping others and particularly helping
others to change.
When did you start noticingthat was your gift?
Oh, that's a great question.
Here's the funny part is thatI've known my entire life that was
a gift.
But sometimes gifts look likeburdens in the wrong part of life.
So what I mean by that is thatfor most of my life, I remember being
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12, 13, and I'd have a crushon whatever girl and she'd say, hey,
is it okay if I call you later?
And I'd be Like, oh my gosh,this is it.
This is the girl that I'vebeen waiting to call me.
And when she would call, shewould say, somebody told me you were
good at this.
What am I good at?
And right.
And it would be somebodyasking me for things, feedback, asking
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me for wisdom, asking me for advice.
By the time I got into theprofessional world, it was similar.
I was the training manager ofa facility and then I was a corporate
trainer.
So I, I was a musician.
And I would tour on theweekends and I would work jobs during
the week.
And people would come to mewith their problems, with their issues,
with when, when they feltstruck, when they, when they felt
stuck, when they felt just overwhelmed.
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And I always had a way oflistening to them and giving them
healthy perspective.
But at those times in my life,it felt like a burden.
It felt, I know, ain't nobodypaying me to do this.
Why am I giving this personall this stuff?
Later on I realized that whatfelt like a burden was a blessing.
But that took maturity andgrowth and realizing, wow, it was
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staring me in the face thewhole time.
Yeah, that's great.
First and foremost, man,getting dates only to find out they
just wanted what you had.
Oh, it was.
I had some.
I could.
That happened more times thanI could, than I'd like to admit.
I'm now seeing why.
We're going to dig into whythe bitterness and where that came
from.
Because you had mentioned thatin your intro.
Absolutely.
Maybe this is part of wherethat came from, but we'll dig into
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that in a second.
So you mentioned somethingabout being maturing and seeing the
difference between burden andblessing and stuff like that.
Did you find that because youwere naturally good at helping people,
did you find that there was anarrogance to that eventually developed
into much more of a humbleservant as opposed to an arrogant
come see me kind of thing?
Was that something you dealt with?
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That's a great question.
I would say that.
No, it didn't turn toarrogance for me, but it did definitely
for me turn into a very selfseeking thing.
Right.
That.
So that the audience knows alittle bit of my history.
I.
My mom and dad had me.
That's how life starts.
There's no stork.
Right.
And dad left immediately andmom marries a different man.
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That man is very abusivetowards her.
And as I grow older, becomesvery abusive towards me.
Physically abusive, even more so.
Mentally abusive, verbally abusive.
And so I grew up in thishousehold where my head is always
on a swivel and my heart isalways crushed in other Words, I'm
beat up and beat down and toldwhat I can never do and what I can
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never be.
And so low self esteem and lowself worth were really a part of
my identity.
I identified as being a personwho didn't think much of himself.
So now when you ask me aquestion, what happened to you when
you started helping people?
Now I need you to tell me howmuch I helped.
I need to hear how great I wasat helping you.
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Because if not, I'm not sureif my life has meaning, and I'm not
sure if my life has worth.
And so when I first really,when I first became a counselor and
then when I first startedpreaching and teaching and just so
many of the things that I doin life, people would come to me
and say, maurice, like, youmade such an impact on me a week
ago, a month ago, whatever.
I can only get better if youkeep helping me.
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And that's an ego stroke.
Right, right.
But ultimately, how I look atthings as a professional and as an
entrepreneur is I do my jobwell when I equip you to do yours.
That's right.
So you start to understand I'mthankful that I helped you.
And by all means, I'm willingto help you again, but I want to
help you.
And that's the maturation I needed.
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I like that.
So this brings up anotherquestion, because I know the listeners,
like I'm a former pastor and Iknow several.
Some of my listeners are ministry.
And we see a lot of,especially in ministry, a lot of
code.
Oh, yeah.
I need to be needed.
So with you searching for thishole to be filled, because that's
really what that is.
I'm filling the self esteemthat I never had.
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How did you find?
There was the maturing, butthere had to be a healing process.
What does that look like?
Oh, how.
What does it still look like?
Yeah.
I believe that healing is lifelong.
So the pivot point for me inmy life was it was 2016.
My music career by then had fizzled.
I was in my early 30s and mymusic career had fallen apart.
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I was working full time and Iwas really working jobs where I was
making the most money I'd ever made.
But I was miserable.
I was empty.
I wasn't feeling like I wasmaking an impact.
And by then I was drunk almostevery night.
I was high almost every day.
I was just in a very dark place.
The suicidal thought startedto creep up and creep in, and I literally
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was waking up day after day,like, upset.
Why am I awake today?
Why is this life Thing still happening.
I got in a car one day, Juneof 2016, and as I drove, it occurred
to me that I did not want toarrive to work.
Like, I don't know if I'mgoing to go off to the left with
my car and swerve into the embankment.
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Am I going to go right?
How can I just get this over with?
Because I don't want to dothis life thing anymore.
And I had what I can only callthe divine encounter that I heard
the voice of God for the first time.
In that moment, I actually hada vision.
And I don't always talk aboutit, but I'll share it with your audience.
Today I had a vision where Iwas standing on a stage.
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So I go from driving down theroad, I'm going about 90 miles per
hour, I'm thinking aboutkilling myself.
And all of a sudden, I'm inthe middle of a vision.
And I'm standing on the stagein the back left of the stage.
I'm looking out towards theright of the stage, and there are
people as far as the eye could see.
And I'm preaching the word of God.
And at that point, I wouldhave probably called myself agnostic,
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maybe.
I mean, I went to church as akid and everything, and I believed
that God was real.
But I was not praying every day.
I was not in my word.
I was not really moving inthat direction.
And I saw that I heard myself preaching.
And immediately I was back inmy car, and God was speaking.
And it was the first time I'dever heard his voice.
And so after that moment, itwas a defining moment because I realized
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I was going to have to changeand I was going to have to heal.
And I knew it was going to be painful.
And so from that point, it wastherapy sessions, it was prayer.
It was eventually speech,spiritual guidance as I joined the
church and then startedgetting honest with people, pastors
and elders of the church andthings like that.
And it was just several years.
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And what I tell people now isthey say, how did you do it?
And I always say, how am Idoing it?
I'm still healing.
I'm still saying, God, thereare broken parts of me that I'm giving
to you and surrendering toyou, because I don't want to stay
broken or I want you to beable to get the glory from my brokenness.
And that's the consistentheart posture for me.
I love that.
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So this brings up a wholeplethora of questions.
Okay, we're going to startwith this one, because I find this,
this is something that a lotof think people struggle with.
The navigation, you saidsomething super powerful, which was,
I'm still healing.
It took several years.
How do you navigate in a lotof church world?
I'll just use church worldwhere it's, if I pray, I should be
instantly healed versus thisis a lifelong process because they
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are not the same.
They're not.
I always point people to scriptures.
I think that for us asbelievers, we always have to be grounded
in the word of God andsometimes we have to pay attention
even to what the word doesn't say.
So as an issue, as an example,the woman with the issue of blood,
we talk about her a lot.
She falls on the feet ofJesus, she reaches for the hem of
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her garment, she gets thehealing from him.
Jesus says, then go and sin no more.
Your faith has healed you.
Right?
She has to now go live therest of her life.
And part of what she's goingto live is understanding that for
12 years she'd been an outcastof society.
She was unclean, so she couldnot go and be around some of the
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people.
And there's going to be aremnant of memories and maybe even
depression or sadness oranxiety or whatever it is that she
has to deal with.
She has to go live life.
What I always tell people iswhen you see the moment that they
meet God, that is then theproof that they will need God for
the rest of the journey.
It's not the moment where Godmakes you so fixed that you don't
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need Him.
It's that's the moment thatproves that you do need Him.
That's where you start toreally pray.
That's when you start toreally trust.
That's the beginning of thejourney, not the end.
And so I think sometimes inour name it and claim it, kind of
a society where we almosttake, tell it that if you pray God
will do it, then it's done.
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Those words are all true.
But that doesn't mean that youdon't still need God, right?
You still need God in themidst of it as he's doing what he's
doing.
Because he's not just doingit, he's working on you.
Sometimes when I pray forsomething, God is not just trying
to do what I asked for.
He's.
He wants to do more than that.
The word says exceedingly,abundantly more than you can ask
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or think.
Which means that I'm like,hey, God, I could use success in
my business.
And God is like, you could usethat, but you could also use to Be
healed in this area, to befixed in this area, to mature in
this area, to grow and developin that area.
God wants more for me than Iwant for myself.
Absolutely.
And that's something that youcan clearly see in the word.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
There's even ports.
Parts where I, over the years,talking with people, God wants to
be successful inside of youbefore you're successful externally.
And I think we miss thatbecause we all want external.
Which goes back to your story.
Trying to use what's around usto fill us.
Yes, absolutely.
No, I was just gonna say, oh,yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a hundred percent it.
God is enough.
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But it's hard for us in ourfeeble understanding of life to get
that.
And when I say feeble, I'm notdissing anybody.
I'm saying, for me included, Ithink that most of us have a desire
to play God.
We think we know what's best.
We think we know what thesituation needs and we don't.
God knows.
That's it.
So now let's take a layer off.
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Let's.
All right, we're healing.
We've got some foundational stuff.
We've chatted.
Let's talk about theramifications of an absent father.
Yeah.
And.
And then not only just theabsent father, but the abusive father.
Oh, yeah.
How did that play into thedeepening of looking in other external
places for validation?
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And then how does it changethroughout your life to where now
you're a father?
Take me through some of thejourney of the struggles from being
in that environment to whereyou are now.
Such a great question.
I really believe that amother's role is incredibly important,
and we live in a society thattries to dampen it.
And the same is true of afather's role and a father's voice.
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And so the one of the firstthings that you asked about was the
void of a father.
And so I grew up alwayswondering what was wrong with me
that Daddy didn't stay.
That was a very real thoughtas a very young kid.
And then to wonder, why didmommy marry somebody that daddy doesn't
want?
Excuse me, that doesn't want me.
That was very real for my life.
And so I certainly looked forvalidation over the years and so
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many different places,including as a musician standing
on stages, trying to sellalbums, things that I've done, wanting
somebody to make me feel likemy good enough was good enough.
The breaking point for mereally was that I realized at some
point, boy, this is going tobe tough for me to trust the heavenly
Father if I don't trust the Father.
And so I had to be willing toreally take a deep dive into healing
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those father wounds.
Because when you tell me Godis a good father, I don't know what
that means.
I don't have a comprehensionof that.
I know that my father wassomeone to be afraid of.
I know that.
I was told that.
That his harshest moments werethe ones where he said, I love you
afterwards.
And those were the onlymoments he said, I love you.
Right?
So when you tell me that Godis a loving father, I'm like, oh,
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God, what is that going tomean for my life?
Is he going to punish me allthe time?
Is he going to be harsh on meall the time?
And so I think that I am.
I'm not the.
The deviation to the norm.
I think I'm more normal thanpeople understand that that are broken
relationships with parents orgrandparents or aunties and uncles
or whoever it is who have beenour caretakers directly impact how
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we view God.
They do.
They absolutely do.
And we have to be willing togo on the journey of letting God
show us his true character.
Know that.
That God will never leave younor forsake you, that God paid the
ultimate price for you out of love.
And that even when God judges,even when God chastises those he
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chastises, he hastens like that.
Even when there is anythingthat comes to me, it's coming out
of love, out of wanting to beback in order, wanting to meet me,
to be back in alignment in hisgood graces.
And so that has been a journey.
I will tell everybody.
I've done more therapysessions than you could understand.
I've done what's called emdr,which is trauma therapy.
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I have done more journalentries, more prayers of forgiveness
than you could possibly know,because I want to have a more pure
understanding of who God is.
So now this brings up some.
Really, this brings up acuriosity for me as somebody who
has a father wound, abusivefather, abandoned, all that stuff
too.
Did you.
And, and now, dad, did youfind that you had more healing prior
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to or post having your own children?
Oh, post for sure.
And it's not even close.
I had a prayer.
Now I'm one of these people.
I really believe that God speaks.
I believe that his.
That he can actually speak to us.
And so one day I was prayingand I said, God, I've got these babies
and I want to love on them.
And I've never seen what aloving father looks like.
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And he said, but you have seenwhat a loving Father, looks like,
look at the way you're lookingat your children.
There was a moment in prayerwhen God was saying, look, I'm doing
it now.
See?
See, what happens in our brainsometimes is that our mind will start
to look at our lack.
What we don't have experiencewith, what we haven't done, what
we haven't seen.
Our brains go to very negative spaces.
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Transformation is about the.
The renewing of the mind.
Right.
It's about me being able tosay, wait a second, it's not just
about what hasn't been done,it's about what God is doing now.
And I realized that the waythat I look at my son is different
than anyone looked at me.
So I've seen the love of God.
I realized that the way that Isay, hey, you don't need me to yell
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at you right now.
You need me to gently explainsomething to you or to give you grace,
or for me to say, hey, I'msorry, I got it wrong.
That all of those moments, Godis showing me who he is as he's working
on my character.
And I think that for anybodywho is, maybe they're starting fatherhood
now, they're startingmotherhood now, and they're saying,
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I have so many wounds.
If you let God use the journeyyou're on, he will heal those wounds
through the parenting, throughthe marriage, through whatever it
is that you're going through.
Yeah.
100 agree with you, man.
That's good.
I remember, like, when I wasfirst having my kids, right before
I struggled through the fatherwounds, like, two years, God took
me on some intensives.
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And I remember him saying tome, he said, he says, I'm about to
do something in your life thatyou have no frame of reference for.
And then we, like, literallytwo, three months later, we found
out we were pregnant.
Right after I heard that.
Wow.
And it was just like my lifehas been like, you have no frame
of reference, but I'm gonnashow you.
So, yeah, no, I connect withyour story, man.
I appreciate it.
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So let's move into somequestions, like some direction, where
it goes.
Because you're a stagespeaker, you're finding healing.
Yep.
And you're.
You've been through somereally traumatic things.
How do you maintain thathealth, being in the limelight once,
being somebody who needed the limelight.
How do you maintain thathealthy, that health, the atmosphere
on the inside of you?
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It's a great question.
I.
I think it goes to my heartposture, which is that obedience
is greater than sacrifice.
Right.
And so for me to Be obedient.
I have to get in front of thepeople and I have to about my, my
mouth.
But part of my obedience isthat I have to be willing to be and
live the testimony.
So I can't just get in frontof everybody and say, hey, I'm a
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polished speaker.
Look how good I am.
I have to be able to show youI'm a polished speaker who God has
re rescued.
Look how much he's done.
So I, I realize that there hasto be a level of vulnerability in
me when I speak.
I have to tell the storiesmaybe I'd rather not tell.
I have to be honest about thethings I'd rather not be honest about
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because it's in myvulnerability that people actually
see God.
It's when I say, hey, I don'thave it all together.
I'm still praying, I'm still working.
I still get it wrong with mywife, I still get it wrong with my
kids, and yet I'm still here.
Right?
That's when people not onlysee themselves and can identify themselves,
they can see God's hand now.
And that has been the thingthat kind of stabilizes me, that
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humbles me and that reallygrounds me to the moments with the
work that I do.
So then what is like somethinglike you would say right now, this
is something I still strugglewith or struggle through.
What is something that, whatdoes that look like?
Great question.
Self doubt is the first onethat comes to mind.
I have confidence issues.
So when I'm speaking rightnow, I don't have any confidence
issues.
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I believe that I am offeringup whatever it is that is needed
for the moment because I'mtapped in.
Right.
The moment this interview isover, my brain starts going, oh my
gosh, did you say that right?
Did you do that right?
Did you handle this right?
I don't know if this was thebest way.
Oh, you probably screwed this.
Is anybody really going to listen?
And so I have to go throughthe journey of finding my confidence
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in God.
That is an ongoing process.
I, whether I'm speaking at aschool, preaching from a stage, whatever
I'm doing, the attack comes tomy mind afterwards.
And so it is finding theconfidence and the courage to be
all the way myself and to notlet those doubts and worries stop
me because they can muffle meif I'm not careful, they will silence
me.
Oh, I guess I don't haveanything to say after all.
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So I find this is valuable.
This is super valuable.
So what does that process look like?
Because saying I, I'm tryingTo find the confidence is everybody's
going to have that.
Oh, what they think that looks like.
But what is that for you?
I'm looking for the confidenceof God.
Walk us through some of that.
Absolutely.
We talk a lot in life aboutsoul searching.
The question is, are youactually searching for your soul?
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And then for the believer, areyou searching for the spirit that
is supposed to be guiding the soul?
That's the journey.
One thing that I say to peopleall the time when I'm dealing with
professionals and working withprofessionals is they say, look,
we've been taught that we'resupposed to be different people professionally
and personally.
I think that's a bunch of crap.
Because the reality is the onething that is similar between your
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personal you and yourprofessional you, you.
You're always there.
If you're off at home, itoften leads you to being off at work.
If you're off at work, you'lltake it home.
And though we learn how tocompartment to a certain level, there's
a cross section.
So anytime that.
That I lose my confidence, Ihave to say, step one, let me evaluate
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what's happening on the insideof me.
What are the voices ofcriticism saying to me?
I have to know because youcannot fix what you do not identify.
Right?
I'm going to say that againbecause somebody needs it.
You cannot fix what you don't identify.
So you have to know what thevoice is saying.
Now I have to say, all right,what of those things is true?
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There could be some truth inthe criticism.
Sometimes your brain knowsthings and has identified some issues.
Okay, do those things actuallymake me a bad person?
Do these things actually makeme a bad communicator?
Does it actually mean I didn'tdo a good job?
I try to find the truth, andthen I challenge the lies.
My brain is telling me that Ididn't show up, but I actually did
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show up.
And I remember in the middleof it that, blah, blah, blah, I begin
to challenge myself with the truth.
Scripture says that we aremore than overcomers, right?
Which means we're not just overcomers.
So that tells me I don't justhave to overcome something because
I can rest in the peace of Godeven before I've overcome it.
I'm more than an overcomer.
So I'm saying, God is always peace.
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Where is God right now?
While my brain is anxious,while my brain is worried, my.
While my brain is overwhelmed,where's God?
And I.
And I actually take deepbreaths and I begin to scan.
He says he will never leave meor forsake me.
Even when I'm in the valley ofthe shadow of death, he's behind
me.
So if that's the case, where's God?
Where's Holy Spirit?
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Where is He?
I.
Those are times to pray.
Those are times to remindyourself of a scripture that's helpful
for you.
Those are sometimes times tojournal or write things down.
But what I tell people is youhave to know how you feel.
You have to understand what istrue and what you feel.
Then you have to challengewhat is not.
To find the place of peace.
That's.
It's a journey.
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It's a process.
It doesn't look the same every time.
Sometimes I think one of theproblems we have as humans is we
want everything to be robotic.
Everybody wants to sell youthree steps to peace and five steps
to financial.
Okay, right, that's great.
But the reality is, right,even in the midst of a step, there's
going to be a process.
So whatever it is that you'reworking on, it's always going to
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be harder than they make it seem.
Because the process changesday by day.
Because you change day by day.
Man, that's so good.
So as we start landing thisepisode, there's one question and
then two.
Two.
Well, actually three questions.
So the first one, before weget down, how do you stay sharp?
Oh, good question.
I keep living life and I tryto stay.
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I try to stay awake.
Okay, here's what I mean.
Do you ever get those momentswhere you drive somewhere and you
get to the place and you don'tknow how you got there?
Yeah.
You get to the work day andyou start the process and you look
up one day and you lost your day.
I work to stay awake and mindful.
Sometimes I set alarms for myself.
The alarm goes off and I go,hey, are you around?
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Are you there?
Are we with it?
I work to stay present whenI'm around my family, when I'm in.
When I'm around my friends andmy presence may not look like yours.
I'm pretty introverted.
I'm actually quiet, whichshocks people.
So for me, it is, am I present?
Because anytime you'represent, you have the ability to
stay sharp because you'rehoned in.
You're locked in.
What is best for me right now?
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What is the thing that I needright now?
When you're.
When you've fallen asleep andyou've been lulled asleep, there
is no fine tuning.
So for me, it is a constantprocess of making sure I'm here,
fully here.
I like to listen to music.
Music helps me a lot since I'ma musician, right?
I listen to a lot of worship music.
I sit and I pr.
I meditate.
I try to like get into thatplace of just.
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I'm listening to meditationmusic right now.
You guys just don't know it.
It's instrumental worship music.
So I listen to music and Ijust get my head to go away and quiet
my mind and get to a placewhere it's me and God.
Those are the ways that Ipersonally try to fine tune.
I have different things that Ishare with clients when I work with
clients as well.
But even what I shared aboutthe alarms, that's one of the first
things I tell clients.
Set an alarm for yourself.
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Four or five alarms duringyour day.
The alarm goes off, askyourself, are you really there?
Are you really present?
And if not, what can you do tohone the skill right now?
Do you need to take a walk?
Do you need to take a breath?
Do you need to write something down?
Do you need to remind yourselfof a scripture?
Do you need to call a friendand get some perspective?
Do you need to watch a video?
What needs to happen?
And so I let that promptpeople, in order to take action,
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to fine tune.
Yeah, that's really good.
My wife, what did she do?
She bought bands.
The old school, like rubber.
That Rubber bands you put onyour wrist.
And each one of them aredifferent colors, like four or five
different colors.
And it says, check in with yourself.
Oh, that's good.
She wears a different colorevery day.
So with that being said, sidenote, curiosity.
Instrument.
Do you play?
Singer.
Singer.
I figured that.
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So I'm a former trumpet player.
That was more out of my ownpersonal curiosity.
I was also a low brass player.
I first went to college as aeuphonium player, if you know what
that is.
I do, I do.
I was a brass player for a while.
Trumpet.
So with that being said, as wecome down to the episode and you
of the audience know wherewe're heading with this, we asked
the question, what is a wisdombomb you would leave for the guest,
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for the listener.
And that is simply somebodyportable truth that they can take
and put in their lives today.
What would that be for you?
What would be your hashtagwisdom bomb?
Everything that you need, you have.
So often in life we think thatsomething is missing on the inside
of us.
And so we go searching forthis magical mythical thing that
will help us be healthy and whole.
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But the truth is that you werecreated in the image of God.
You were fearfully andwonderfully made.
The Lord is your shepherd, soyou lack nothing.
And so there's theunderstanding that everything you
need is already there right now.
Stop looking for something in friends.
Stop looking for something inthe latest fad and the latest trend,
and realize that everythingyou have is already within you.
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Powerful.
How do we find you?
How do people connect with you?
Come find me online.
You can find me on my website,mauricefmartin.com there's some freebies
there.
You can sign up for themailing list.
Maybe you've heard me todayand you thought, man, I really want
to bring you in to speak somewhere.
You can sign up right there.
Also, I do free clarity calls.
So if somebody said, hey, youknow what, I'd love to just run some
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things by you.
You can do a free clarity callwith me.
I'd love to sit down and talkto you and see if you might even
be a good fit to be one of mycoaching clients.
So that's the easiest way.
And then of course, socialmedia at Maurice F.
Martin on all social media.
Awesome.
And so for you, the listener,we will be putting that in the show
notes for you so that makethem make sure it's easy, it's accessible.
And for you to go and connectwith Maurice here because powerful
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man of God, powerful in whathe's doing because you can tell from
this episode that he's gonethrough a lot and he's overcome a
lot.
So make sure you connect.
With that being said, Maurice,thank you for being on the show with
us today.
Hey, thank you again forhaving me.
This is great, what you'redoing, and I hope it goes far.
I appreciate that.
And for you, the listener, youhave been listening to Grace in the
Grind, well, we're here totell the inspiring stories behind
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some of the successfulentrepreneurs that you and I know.
And with that being said, makesure you leave a comment or review
on whatever platform you'relistening to and I'll see you on
the next episode or even aprevious one.
But with that being said,we'll talk to you soon.
This has been Grace and the Grind.
We hope you've enjoyed the show.
If you did, make sure to,like, rate and review.
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And we'll be back soon, but inthe meantime, find us on social media.
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