May 5, 2025 • 31 mins
🎯 In This Episode with Molly Trotter-Gomez, You’ll Discover:
- What it takes to walk away from a toxic career to protect your character
- How to break free from performance-based identity and people-pleasing
- Why your voice and story matter in building God’s Kingdom
📝 Episode Summary
What would you do if your job asked you to compromise your faith?
Molly Trotter-Gomez didn’t just walk away—she stood her ground, got fired, and never looked back. In this episode, Jim dives deep into Molly’s journey from news anchor to Christian entrepreneur, revealing the internal battles, faith revelations, and painful growth that led her to build Kingdom Alliance—a biblically-based business community for leaders and change-makers.
If you've ever wrestled with your identity, doubted your voice, or questioned if you're “too much”—this episode will hit home.
👋 About Our Guest
Molly Trotter-Gomez is the Director of Field Development at Kingdom Alliance and a former TV news anchor turned faith-led entrepreneur. She now empowers others to discover their voice, own their story, and build purpose-driven businesses rooted in biblical principles.
💡 Key Insights from Molly
- You’re Not Too Much – What others call “too much” is often your greatest gift.
- Obedience over Outcome – How Molly's early morning prayer routine transformed her clarity and business.
- Your Voice Has Value – Silence steals God's glory. Your testimony matters more than your insecurity.
Connect with Molly Trotter-Gomez:
Facebook Group: Molly's Facebook group
Facebook Page: Molly's Facebook page
✝️ Faith Connection
This episode shows how obedience, even when inconvenient, unlocks favor. Molly’s 2AM secret place became her launchpad. When you truly trust God with your identity, you don’t have to chase validation—you just walk in calling.
🎨 Multipassionate Application
Molly’s story reminds creatives: you don’t have to choose between being powerful and faith-filled. Her ability to integrate digital marketing, leadership, and ministry is a model for how multipassionates can thrive by aligning everything under purpose.
💪 Resilience Corner
Molly’s breaking moments weren’t setbacks—they were setups. This episode is a masterclass in learning how to let go of perfection and control so that real growth can happen.
🧠 Leadership Insight
Molly’s journey illustrates how real leadership starts with conviction. If your people can’t trust your yes and your no, they can’t follow your vision.
❓ Reflection Question
Where are you still fighting for your limitations instead of your possibilities?
📱 Connect With Us
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Facebook: facebook.com/leadwithjim
Website: www.leadwithjim.com
Youtube: www.youtube.com/leadwithjim
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(00:00):
Welcome to Grace and theGrind, the podcast where we dive
deep into the journeys ofheart centered and purpose driven
leaders and entrepreneurs.
We're here to equip andencourage you on your journey.
So let's get started and findthe grace within the grind.
This is Grace in the Grind.
And now your host, Jim Burgoon.
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Welcome to Grace in the Grindwhere we're here to tell the inspiring
stories behind some of themost successful entrepreneurs.
And today we have a new friendto the show, Molly.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
So for the audience, takeabout the next 60 to 90 seconds and
let us know who you are andwhat you do.
I love it.
First of all, I love that yousaid 60 to 90 because that's my kind
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of intro.
Like just boom, just rightshort, sweet, to the point, long
story short, as I always liketo say.
I was a former news anchor and reporter.
I got into that to really tellpeople stories.
I love being able to just givepeople a voice if you can.
That's always been somethingI've loved to do.
Then I realized it was verytoxic and I said get me out of here.
So I was in there for aboutfive years.
I learned a ton.
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I was on the anchor desk inthe field, sports, weather, wrote,
shoot, edited my own story.
So there is so much that I gotfrom it and talk about 60 to 90 seconds.
I had to get an entire day'slike story and put it down into 15,
30, 60 seconds.
So very much used to that.
But that led me on to after Igot out of the news, I ended up actually
getting fired because Iwouldn't basically do all the things
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they wanted me to do, whichsome were just not.
I was not willing to, yeah, godown that route.
So anyways, I got intoentrepreneurship, dove into network
marketing just to get my myfeet wet and got into digital marketing
after that and really startedto help coaches build and scale businesses
and my brother's brother inlaw's digital marketing agency until
I realized I have a skillsetpeople need and if people could be
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more effective communicator,their business can skyrocket.
There's a lot of people thatare great at business but when it
comes to speaking it's likethey're terrified sharing their own
story.
They're terr.
So I loved doing that for anumber of years and leading me to
where I am today and you cansee it on the screen if you're watching.
I'm the field director offield development For Kingdom alliance
and what Kingdom alliance is,it is a community where you can build
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a lifestyle around things thatmatter most.
We have personal professionaldevelopment resources, all biblically
based.
We have an incredible travelpillar that allows people to travel
around the world at wholesale prices.
So in three words, I like tosay our community really helps people,
um, become equipped, if theychoose, to really be able to steward
and to disciple.
And you can go out to thenations if you choose.
And there's also an earningcomponent, as it is a network marketing
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opportunity.
And that's a whole story inand of itself of God saying, we're
going to redeem and restorethe profession.
And it starts with leadership.
And that is a big piece towhat our company is about.
So that is a little bit of my story.
I'm married.
I live in Southern California.
My husband and I have beenmarried for five years.
No kids yet, but we're bothentrepreneurs, so our businesses
are babies at the moment.
And we just pour everything wecan into that.
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Nice.
Thank you for sharing.
That's a.
We have a lot to unpack here because.
And congratulations on makingyou five years with your husband.
That is, that's an amazing feat.
So they say with the fiveyears itch once after five years
and maybe seven, you're done,you're good, you're good to golden
for the rest of your life.
So I love it.
I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Same.
I think we're on the secondhalf of that.
We're on the 50 year package.
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We're 25 in.
Come on.
I know.
So let me dive into the newsanchor stuff first because there's
a lot there.
And especially you were sayingyou were in a toxic environment and
you've got all of these thingsand you were fired because you're
not willing to do something.
It takes a lot of integrity.
So let's start with this.
Let's start integrity firstand move back into the toxicity.
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Where did you develop theconfidence and the integrity to stand
up to that and be like, Idon't care about my job, I care more
about this, that character?
That is a great question.
I'm very grateful that myparents really brought me up in a
Christian household.
I went to private school firstthrough eighth grade, grew up in
the church.
So I was surrounded by greatpeople most of the time.
Can't be perfect.
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And then I also felt at a veryyoung age that I knew God was going
to use me in a way.
I actually remember at 7 yearsold in church, God, basically, I
heard this audible voicesaying, Are you ready?
And it was him saying, are youready to jump into leadership?
And I'm seven.
And I'm like, no, Lord, I amnot ready.
And I ran away.
I ran off.
I'm thinking that you can hidefrom God at seven and you really
can't.
But the beautiful part is hepursued me ever since and at 27,
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stepped into that.
And that's another part of,I'm sure the story will dive into.
Oh, yeah.
I just knew that there wassomething deeper.
And I always was just like,okay, how can I be a person of excellence,
somebody of value?
And I definitely grew up in ahouse where performance mindset was
heavily ingrained.
Call that a good or bad thing,it depends on how you look at it.
But I just always knew that Iwasn't going to give up my integrity
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just to make the story, have afew more viewers watch it.
And it just wasn't worth itbecause that's my brand, that's my
reputation at the end of theday, even though I'm a part of that
station.
And they would do it time andtime again or even put me in harm's
way.
I remember there were timesthat there would be murderers on
the loose and I would be bymyself, no cameraman.
I'm in my mid-20s and all Ihave is a tripod to swing at somebody.
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If somebody comes at me,trying to hurt me, and they're like,
you have to go get the story.
And I remember one time I toldmy news director, I said, absolutely
not.
And at that moment, I know inhis mind he wanted to probably let
me go.
And I was like, you were goingto basically put me out there as
like a sacrificial lamb for a story.
Are you serious?
I said no.
And then eventually, yeah,you're right, maybe not.
Human lives to them just weredispensable and just their integrity
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was dispensable.
And it just wasn't for me.
That blows my mind, thedispensability of human life.
So then that brings into thetoxicity question.
And yes, we will unpack the 20year running spree and as well as
the performance mindset thing,because that brings up a whole other
list of questions.
But before we do that, let'sjump into the toxicity because a
lot of times our environments,if we're not careful, get on the
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inside of us.
How did you protect notbecoming the environment you were
in?
That is a really great question.
I was very, like, I was alwaysvery choosy on who I listened to
and who I let in, especiallytowards the end, like, when I really
started to step up to the Mybosses, and I was like, no, like,
I'm not going to do this.
I even had to ask myself,like, where did that come from?
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Because I didn't, like,necessarily grow up in that environment.
Be quiet, do what you need to do.
But there were always momentswhere I just was like, no, I'm my
own person.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
Call that pride, call that ego.
But at the end of the day,like, this is who I am, and I have
to know what I stand on.
And being a believer,primarily my entire life, it was
just not something it wasworth risking, because what if they
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fired me and then I have to gosomewhere else and start all over?
Else?
All for what?
So I really was choosing onwho I listened to, because the old
adage, listen to the peoplewho have what you want.
And there was very few peoplethroughout, as I've been just growing
in my life that had what Ireally wanted.
And it wasn't just money.
It wasn't positioning sessions.
It was internal.
It was how they thought, whatthey think, and their values.
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And a lot of people reallyjust actually don't care about values,
which is wild to me.
They're willing to be flexibleon that just to make a buck, and
that just.
No, I.
I was never that person.
Yeah, I appreciate that,because I'm like that, too.
I will not never sacrifice forcharacter, because that's.
I gotta live with myself.
Like, y'all live however you sleep.
I have to live with myself.
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So this brings up some reallyinteresting conversation pieces because
you said call it pride or egoversus standing on principle.
So at what point were youfeeling like you were more prideful?
Arrogant versus I'm standingon the principles that were developed
in me.
Like, where is that shift?
I would say probably so.
I'm 35 now.
I would say the pride and egodefinitely covered up insecurities
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and hurt.
And I'm nervous and I'm scared.
So I just had this reallytough exterior.
I would describe.
I describe it to my mom backin the day.
I was like a turtle shell.
Like, I'm super hard on theoutside because it's so soft and
tender on the inside that Iwill protect it at all costs.
And, excuse me, my turtleshell was super thick, but it was
just because I was scared, andI was like, I don't really know what's
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going to happen next.
So my bark was definitelyworse than my bite, for sure.
But it probably wasn't untilmaybe Five or six years ago.
Five or six years ago, to bereally honest, that God really got
a hold of me, like, hey, weneed to work on this.
Like, you are safe, you're ina different environment, you're with
me, you're fully submitted to me.
And I was, I would say I was abeliever my whole life.
I was baptized when I wasseven the first time, however, relief,
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fully submitted not having onetoe in, one toe out, but Lord, like
my life is yours.
Not saying I'm perfect, butit's yours and I'll be, I'm going
to be obedient.
Really.
Five, six years ago is when Ireally stepped into that more.
And so then it shifted toprinciples of not just what I think
is right, but who does God saythat I am and how can I be more Christlike
in my actions?
So went from pride, ego toactually Lord, and I would pray this,
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Lord, show me how you see them.
Then I would start to seetheir insecurities.
They're like, oh, you knowwhat, we need to get her to lie about
this or to do that because myjob is on the line if we don't make
this juicy enough.
Like he would get me to seeother things in other perspectives
that really weren't in the physical.
Kind of more spiritual.
So that knowing.
And that was a huge shift for me.
So then this brings up the great.
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An interesting question.
So you're 35 and you saidabout five or six years ago.
So that's put you at about 29to 30.
And you at the opening of thisinterview, you just said, I stopped
running from God at 27.
So 20 years.
Because you were seven whenyou ran from God, 27 when he finally
caught you and you stopped.
So there's a two year processbetween when you stopped and said
yes and now you're overcomingthe ego, the pride, some of the insecurities
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and things like that.
And obviously it's a journey.
So it's.
We're going still in those process.
So what were those two yearslike as God was starting to break
you of those things and wasstarting to mold you into who you
are today?
Oh, this is good.
I love it.
I love.
Your questions are great.
It's like actually pullingthings out that I don't think anybody's
ever asked before or reallylooked into before.
So yeah, at seven I said,lord, I don't know what when you
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say go like dive into leadership.
I didn't know what that meant.
However, he kept putting me inleadership positions, student council,
leading sports teams, whateverEverybody's, you're the leader, you're
it.
So he was preparing me alongthe way.
But when I really stepped intoit is when I got out of the news
industry, jumped into entrepreneurship.
Now I'm doing things on my ownand I'm trying to set up this life
for myself.
And I don't have anybody in myfamily that has ever done that.
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So a lot of that was thebreaking and probably even went beyond
the.
From 27 to 29 into my 30s, thebreaking of you, like, think you're
in control, but you're really not.
In entrepreneurship, you canride the roller coaster and get wildly
nauseous because you're ridingit, or you can try to maintain, stabilize
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your emotions and yourfeelings and really trust discernment.
And that's one of the biggestlessons I learned.
So many people, includingmyself, I was led by emotions and
feelings rather thandiscernment because on the back of
my mind I'm like, yeah, God,okay, yeah, you know what you're
doing, but I can do it better.
That's what he was breaking me.
Obviously you can't.
And entrepreneurship willbreak you in the best ways because
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it just does it.
It just doesn't like that.
But depending on how willingyou are to let God show, reveal,
and then heal those areas thatreally need to.
Be healed, yeah,entrepreneurship does definitely
reveal and break things thatyou never knew you need broken.
So when God called me intothat, I was like, wow, okay, Lord.
So this brings up aninteresting thing because as I oftentimes
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joke and I say I'm arecovering perfectionist and because
I dealt with a lot of insecurities.
You talked about the turtleshell and the harder the shell, the
deeper the hide.
And.
But it also links to theperformance mentality you mentioned
earlier.
So as somebody who grew up, Iwas a gifted ADHD kid, so I grew
up performance good.
Anything else bad.
So there was that.
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How did you make the shift from.
I judge my internal well beingor who I am based on all the things
I'm producing to it's okay tobe who I am and I'm okay with that.
Like, where was the shifthappening for you for that?
Gosh.
I would say, truthfully, inbuilding this company that we now
have Kingdom alliance, westarted it back in June of 2020.
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That's when I really had to.
Because I've been anentrepreneur at that point since,
so 2017 to 2020, so three years.
There was a lot of breakingand molding into that.
But starting up this company,it was something that I've never
seen done before helping,first of all, women, Christian women,
money, mindset, growth,freedom, all these things.
And you're battling a lot ofreligious beliefs.
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You're battling a lot of things.
And so there would be thingsthat wouldn't move growth that wouldn't
happen necessarily, like inthe business that in other businesses
would take off if I did this,that and the other thing.
But God, I'm doing a new thing.
So I would say with even likethe last couple years, I would say
maybe even within the last twoto three years, he's really been
able to highlight, hey, thisis still a problem and you need to
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just love yourself wholly andit's not attached to the outcome.
Even though at the time I likea couple years ago, I would have
people that I love dearlywould speak, try to speak over and
into me, and I would have toblock it of like, I'm not accepting
that as truth.
Because they're like, whydon't you give up on this thing?
Once you go do something else?
Why don't you?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, I'm not askingthis of you.
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And I have to just have to shut.
I have to shut that off.
And so recovered peoplepleaser, right?
I love you and I care aboutyou and what you say actually matters
to me.
But you're trying to get me towalk away from what God's having
me press into to start a newmovement that he's wanting to do
something big with.
So within the last coupleyears, I've really had to look deep
and just really know myidentity, my value, and who he says
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I am, nobody else.
And then truthfully, sometimeswe still battle from time to.
I'm not gonna say we.
I still battle from time to time.
Of Here are the metrics that Iput out that didn't produce the way
that I thought it would.
But God is not linear.
It's not logical.
It's.
He is the master of multiplication.
And so I've really, within thelast year, I would say, have come
to a piece of.
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I have done all I can do.
It's up to Him.
And I hear in my spirit allthe time because I'm just very clear
of it's coming, it's coming different.
Whatever the it's coming is.
There's a lot of differentthings that are attached to that.
But that piece right there isso key because so many people miss
that part.
And that really is the realgift, knowing you've done all you
can do.
And he's going to fill in therest and just keep being obedient
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to the next step, even if itdoesn't make sense for whatever has
happened in the past and howthings used to add up.
So then now this brings up aninteresting just thought for me.
So you're doing all of this.
So where.
How painful did it get in thebreaking process of you trying to
get a hold of your realidentity versus the shell identity
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that you had to hide and justmake everything pretty, make everything
produce.
Now you're getting into thisplace of, I'm a child of God.
I've accepted that, I'mdeveloping that and I'm.
I'm owning that.
How painful did it get for youin the transition to that?
And how did you not say, I quit?
Definitely did.
I said I quit many times.
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However, I did not.
Words came out, but theactions didn't follow.
Right?
So it just was like, I justcan't do this anymore.
And honestly, there have beenso many moments within the last two
years of.
And I know this is a lot ofpeople too.
I just can't do this anymore.
This is so hard.
I would say, when was it?
Maybe like 2020 to 2021.
I started discovering thesecret place, meaning my alone time
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with God.
I found my spot.
I can't do it in my housebecause there's so many different
distractions.
So I found it in my car.
And anybody who's beenfollowing for a number of years,
like, there she is, like,doing her quiet time in her car again.
And I developed this spotwhere I would get up.
Now I get up during the week.
I know this is going to soundcrazy at 2am and between 2 and 3:45,
I have my quiet time in thecar before I go to the gym.
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My quiet time for the firsttwo years of that, maybe even three,
was just me breaking,complaining, lord, I need wine.
And then maybe dive intoscripture a little bit.
To be honest, most of the timewhen I look back on it, I was like,
wow, how annoying was that?
And that's not how he responds.
But that was my response tomyself until I got to this point
where, like, God is such agentleman, he is such a loving father.
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He's.
I am here.
And really developing thatspace was so important to get away
from the noise.
And for me, early in themorning is my time because people
are literally still sleepingand there's not a whole lot of movement
and it's just me and him andit's quiet and it's peaceful and
it's worth the sacrifice Of alittle lack of sleep or going to
bed early.
But it was painful.
There was a lot of breakingmoments and a lot of lord, why?
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Like, you've given me thesebig words and these promises, and
don't get me wrong, not everymorning was like a whine and complain.
Like, he would give medownloads and I have journals and
journals of different wordsand things.
But it was painful because hewould give you this big word and
this big vision.
But then it's between that andthen the process that it takes to
get there, that obviously isthe painful part.
And just releasing.
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Okay, Lord, your timing isalways greater, and we can say that
over and over, but when weactually start to believe it.
For me, it took me a very longtime because I'm like, what do you
mean?
Normally six months max, 12months max.
And now it's been years and years.
However, it's developing thatdeeper faith and trust of knowing
master's multiplication iscoming and his word will never return
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void.
I love how you recognize,like, the difference between the
entrepreneurial.
Yeah, we need it done in three months.
So, Lord, if you can get onthat for me, that would be beautiful.
Versus, all right.
Your timetable, not mine.
I love the shift in that.
Which now brings up anotherquestion, because I know there are
some of my listeners thatreally generally struggle with this.
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How did you gain confidencethat when you're like, when God speaks,
I know it's him?
Because there's such astruggle in that depth of, was it
God?
Was it not God?
And you know, as a Christian,we all deal with that on some level.
Yes.
But I do know there'sparticularly one or two of my audiences
that have reached out to mebefore and said, hey, how do you
this.
And the one of those has been,how are you so confident in hearing
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God?
So I'd love to hear yourthoughts on that, since this is what
I'm hearing.
Is the confidence in the Lordin that?
Yes.
And I can't say it's going tobe a perfect score that every time
I think of here for him, thatit is him.
But this is what I was.
This is the revelation he gaveto me.
Align the voice that you justheard, align that with the fruits
of the spirit.
And that is going to weed outpretty quickly.
For the most part.
It's not always a perfect score.
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But whether it's your voice,the enemy's voice, or his voice and
what he's saying to you, andespecially when I am in my quiet
place, in my secret place, Ihave my own setting where I'm in
a no distraction zone.
Phone is away.
I have soaking music on.
I sound weird, like, soakingworship music where it's light instrumentals.
Because I've trained my brainof when that's on.
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Like we.
This is the time that we're in.
Because otherwise my brainwill squirrel off to all these other
areas.
So I aligned it with thefruits of the spirit.
And then I pray, lord, give me discernment.
Is this you?
And then it's just like thisknowing and this feeling just like
knowing like he's going to bethere every time you pray.
He listens.
And the only reason we woulddoubt that is because that's the
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enemy's voice.
Doubt that is not from theLord of is he really going to come
through?
Is this really going to happen?
That's not a fruit of the spirit.
So most of the time, when youalign it with the fruits of the spirit,
you will know.
And then it just takestrusting yourself.
And you have to know this.
God trusts you.
He trusts that you're going tomake the right decision.
So lean into that.
Doesn't mean we're going toalways make the right decision.
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But so many people getparalyzed of let's just make no decision
and then just stay stuckbecause it's safer than making the
wrong one.
Where your girls made plentyof wrong decisions, but we learned
from them.
Yeah.
A lot of times we learn morefrom the wrong decision than we ever
do from the right ones.
Yeah, I'm right with you on that.
So then here's what in thisline of thinking, you're an empowered
woman.
Right.
And I like empowered more thanI like power.
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We all talk about power, but Ithink there's so much authority behind
empowered.
And you are a very beautiful,like, example of what an empowered
woman looks like.
Entrepreneur.
Here's from God doing the things.
So then how do you stand upagainst the voices, against the religious,
the people that may try tocome against you and say you're not
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good enough?
All of these things, like, howdo you do this with confidence and
don't want to run back to the shell.
I love this question.
The first thing that comes tomind is a mentor of mine, my business
partner, Michelle Schaefer.
Talk about somebody who juststands up against the religious.
There's so many people thatwill spew their religiosity and their
doubt and their fear all over you.
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And she has been such a pillarin my life to just be like, no, enough
is enough.
I'm not like, we're not goingto stand for that that is not truth.
And so I get to see somebodyon a daily basis doing that.
And that's important.
If you don't have somebodythat's showing you the way and blazing
a trail, which I've always needed.
I've always prayed for female mentors.
And there was a lot of no'sand in walks Michelle.
We just become business partners.
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And she's an incredible mentorof mine in our company, Kingdom Alliance.
And so watching somebody dothat day in, day out, it builds something
in you of, you know what?
Most people won' do thatbecause of the confrontation and
the rub.
But why are we so comfortableof just letting people talk all this
nonsense all over us?
So it got me to look at myselfeven before I met Michelle, before
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I met Michelle, of like, whatdo I stand for?
What do I stand for?
In the pandemic taught me alot of that, because in 2020, we
had no idea what was going on.
We didn't know what was goingto be shut down.
The Internet, the world, like,we had no idea what was going on.
So I said, lord, where do we go?
What do we do?
I came across this shirt thatI ended up purchasing and it says,
think why it's still legal.
And it's funny.
And I wore that thing until Icouldn't wear it anymore and had
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holes in it.
However, it got me to be like,what do you actually think?
What do you actually believe?
What?
Like, you have to do the digging.
And for so long I was justlike, that sounds good.
That sounds good.
I'm going to put this in my car.
Oh, yeah, that sounds good.
Rather than, no, but do youreally believe that?
Is that something you canstand on?
Do a little research, do alittle digging?
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My husband's great at this.
If he wants to know something,he does a lot of digging and way
more than I would do.
But I respect the fact that hereally wants to know that he knows.
So then you can really standup against it.
Because a lot of believers, alot of people call themselves Christians,
will go to church.
The pastoral spoon feed.
Check that in your own time.
Like, use your discernment tobe like, do I believe in that or
not?
And you're not going tobelieve everything.
But for the longest timegrowing up in church, I remember
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being a part of the church.
I was growing up, oh, my gosh,if I was a part of that now, I would
scream if I was at service,being like, this is so dry and not
real.
Right.
And it allows people to justshrink and not feel like they actually
have a voice when there is somuch power that is in us and God
gets to use us, and when youunderstand that we are his highest
form of creation and we get tobe used, that doesn't have to be
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a scary thing because he'salways with us.
It really does something to you.
And maybe it's just me, maybeI'm the only one, but at the end
of the day, I know that Godbuilt me for something so much bigger
than just to collect a check,Be a wife, be a mom.
Those are all amazing things.
Be a great friend, daughter,all the above.
There.
It's so much bigger than that.
We all have a voice, we allhave a story, and our story matters.
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And so, yeah, it fires me upevery day because I know my calling
is so much bigger than just me.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love what you said there too.
It's always double check.
I'm like that.
Me and my wife have the same dynamic.
I get hyper focused and I wantto learn, like, everything.
Like, I'm digging and she's,oh, this is cool.
And so I'm trying to teach herhow to dig.
So it's been an interesting dynamic.
She's loving it.
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One thing I, the Bible saysactually in Acts, it says the Bereans
went back and double checkedeverything Paul said and they were
counted as a noble.
Which shows us that even Paul,he's the reason why we're all Christians
right now.
There were people doublechecking him and they were seen as
like, these amazing people and noble.
Like, we should do the same.
And so I love how you broughtthat out.
I'm.
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That's my soapbox area that Iusually get on sometimes on Facebook,
like, yo, let's not just take value.
I love that.
Come on.
So let's tie this back aroundbecause you've mentioned it through
the several ports of thispoints at this interview.
Give people a voice.
So where did that develop?
Was it something in your lifewhere you.
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Your voice was taken and nowyou're trying to not only develop
the voice that you believe wastaken and help others do the same?
Or was it something like, Ihad a voice and God is just helping
me amplify it to give it tosomeone else?
Explain that for me.
I would say growing up, a lotof people would say, you're too much,
you talk too loud, sit downand be quiet.
However, I just didn't.
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I just kept going.
So I was like, okay.
So I always push back a little bit.
And then funny enough, I getinto the news industry where I want
to help other people have a voice.
I was trained to obviously beable to speak.
Right, Right.
And understanding how so manypeople are scared to have a voice
because the imposter syndromeor whatever you want to call it,
like, why me?
And I've really helped people reframe.
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Why not you?
And if God gets glory throughour testimony, yet so many people
are terrified to speak, how ishe going to get the glory that he
truly deserves?
And it's never going to be enough.
But at least it's something.
It's what we can bring.
All we have is what we can bring.
And so many people are justterrified because they've had so
many family members orexperiences or whatever.
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If you're too much, be quiet.
You're shy.
So they grew up shy.
Now they're a shy adult.
And they've taken that on asan identity.
Because I could have gone theother direction and been like, oh,
this I am too much.
Maybe I shouldn't.
Maybe I should.
But I kept digging into thatbeing like, why is this so flagrant?
Why is this so loud comingback at me?
And when something is so.
This is always popping up, Itend to look at that more of maybe
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this is somewhere I need to gobecause the enemy's trying to block
me from breaking throughsomething here.
I know that the news to now,the news brought me into a space
where I can learn how to dothat, help people develop that voice.
And it's really.
It's what they've always had.
But just how can you put ittogether where you can help unlock
your story and it can unlockother things and other people?
And inside our community, wehave a speaker academy that really
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helps people dig down deep andjust get the stories that are in
there and get it out.
Because you didn't go througheverything that you've gone through
in your life for that to juststay stuck inside of you.
Like, people love stories.
They want to be inspired.
It's some of the best movies.
The best things that peoplelove to see is the Underdog, the
Overcomer, and there's so manymore overcomers out there.
But yet we sit down, we'relike, oh, not me.
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It doesn't really matter.
And I rebuke that lie, and itdrives me insane.
And I usually get a lot ofrighteous anger around it because
I'm just like, no more.
Come on.
Yeah, I love that.
Hey, listen, I'll take.
Everybody can have theirrighteous indignation or their righteous
anger and all that stuff.
But listen, if you're speakingtruth, speak truth.
Just end the story.
It's because in the end of theday, I'd rather offend your mind
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and save your heart than tryto save your heart and offend those.
Instead of offend your.
I just messed that wholelittle thing up.
That's funny.
So you never have those fourthoughts that just came in at once
and you're like, wow, thatjust happened.
And we caught it on air.
So here even we all get it right.
I love it.
So I had a mentor once, toldme, he said, offend the mind to reveal
the heart.
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Right.
That.
That he had said that one time.
And I was like, you know what?
I'd rather offend your mindinstead of saving your heart as opposed
to offending your heart tosave your mind.
Because we can.
There's this dynamic in there,is we're always going to have a troll.
We're always going to havesomebody who's angry at us.
We're always going to have those.
Even Jesus.
Those.
Yep.
And so I love that, like, juststand up the voice and you hear it
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here on the thing to the audience.
Like, just stand up and useyour voice.
And I'm gonna highly recommendthat you get connect with Molly and
what she's doing, how she'sdoing it, because this is a very
empowered woman who then, ifyou feel like a very good connection,
a very strong calling, theHoly Spirit's kind of knitting you
guys together.
Make sure you reach out tothat, to her.
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And we will put all thosethings in the show notes in a minute.
But before we do, let's talkabout the wisdom bomb.
I for my listeners, you'vebeen here with the show for a while,
or maybe this is your first time.
We do what's called hashtagwisdom bomb.
If you go on my Facebook atLead with Jim, you see it.
I've been doing it since 2019.
It says hashtag wisdom bomb.
It's a portable truth.
And the portable truths is,hey, this is something you take in
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your life and do it today.
With that being said, Molly,what is a wisdom bomb that you would
give to the audience?
I love.
This is one of my favorite quotes.
When I heard it, it stuck withme for life.
I'm going to say it the waythat it's it was said, and then I'm
going to phrase it so we cantake it on for our own self.
I fight for people'spossibilities while they fight for
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their limitations.
You need to fight for your ownpossibilities in the midst of your
body, even trying to fight forits limitation.
Our body's always meant tokeep us safe.
But in a comfort zone, nothing grows.
And so many people are just.
Especially over the lastcouple of years we've had.
I get it.
Things were not easy.
They were hard.
But it's time to press through.
It's time to have this timenext year, your life look like something
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totally different.
And if we just keep lettingthe same things hold us back of what
people think, letting peoplespeak in your life that shouldn't
be.
It's time to cut that off,respectfully being like, I love you
and no more.
Here is my boundary.
In 2025, we need to set somevery clear boundaries, not only for
ourselves, but but just forother people that are around us.
Because the dreams and visionsthat God has given in our put in
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our hearts and has given to uslike it deserves at least that.
So I always speak like I fightfor people's possibilities while
they fight for their limitations.
And I take that on as aleader, as a mantle that God's given
me.
And I know how weighty thatcall is.
At the same time, when I meetpeople with that same energy, they're
like, wow.
And sometimes you might be thefirst that has ever done it for somebody
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else or even just for yourselfand it feels good because you're
no going in the right direction.
Because we have to be fightingfor something.
We have to be fighting for something.
So many people literally fightfor nothing and they just sit on
the sidelines.
So it's just time to get inthe game.
I love that.
So how can we find you?
I would say, gosh, I'm allover social media.
Instagram, Molly Underscore,Trotter, Facebook, Molly Trotter,
Gomez.
Those are probably the easiest.
I'm always on those.
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I know we have a lot of linksbelow, so you can click those.
I think there's probablyTikTok, LinkedIn, our website, all
the above.
But I would love to hear whatwas something that you got from the
show.
And Jim, I just want to saythank you so much for hosting this
show.
You are an incredible question asker.
You probably asked mequestions that I have never been
asked before and I just wantto honor you for that because that
really shows just theattentiveness that you have and really
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just being able to draw thatvalue for your audience.
I just want to say thank youfor just giving me a place to share
my story and I hope it blessedsomebody today.
Definitely has blessed me andit's an honor to have you on the
show.
And so thank you for sayingyes and coming off and having this
conversation.
So you guys who are theaudience, we will make sure all of
that is in the show notes,click it, do the thing, go connect,
message, ask about thecommunity because it sounds like
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it's a beautiful community.
Especially I think you saidyou're focusing on women.
Do you do other than women oris this women?
Yeah, so we primarily startedthat way but we rebranded.
So Kingdom alliance is open toanyone that really just wants that,
you know, biblically basedfaith forward community that provides
opportunity for growth andjust building a life around things
that matter most.
Awesome.
So thank you for the clarity.
So that way to you, theaudience, man or woman, whatever
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it is, connect and see whatfigure it out.
You know, learn to make moneywhile do ministry, entrepreneurship
and travel.
Some of my heartstrings arealready pulled.
So with that being said, thankyou for listening to the show.
Make sure you do the thing,whatever platform you're on, whether
YouTube or Apple or Iradio,make sure you hit the follow, hit
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Welcome to Grace and theGrind, the podcast where we dive
deep into the journeys ofheart centered and purpose driven
leaders and entrepreneurs.
We're here to equip andencourage you on your journey.
So let's get started and findthe grace within the grind.
This is Grace in the Grind.
And now your host, Jim Burgoon.
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Welcome to Grace in the Grindwhere we're here to tell the inspiring
stories behind some of themost successful entrepreneurs.
And today we have a new friendto the show, Molly.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
So for the audience, takeabout the next 60 to 90 seconds and
let us know who you are andwhat you do.
I love it.
First of all, I love that yousaid 60 to 90 because that's my kind
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of intro.
Like just boom, just rightshort, sweet, to the point, long
story short, as I always liketo say.
I was a former news anchor and reporter.
I got into that to really tellpeople stories.
I love being able to just givepeople a voice if you can.
That's always been somethingI've loved to do.
Then I realized it was verytoxic and I said get me out of here.
So I was in there for aboutfive years.
I learned a ton.
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I was on the anchor desk inthe field, sports, weather, wrote,
shoot, edited my own story.
So there is so much that I gotfrom it and talk about 60 to 90 seconds.
I had to get an entire day'slike story and put it down into 15,
30, 60 seconds.
So very much used to that.
But that led me on to after Igot out of the news, I ended up actually
getting fired because Iwouldn't basically do all the things
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they wanted me to do, whichsome were just not.
I was not willing to, yeah, godown that route.
So anyways, I got intoentrepreneurship, dove into network
marketing just to get my myfeet wet and got into digital marketing
after that and really startedto help coaches build and scale businesses
and my brother's brother inlaw's digital marketing agency until
I realized I have a skillsetpeople need and if people could be
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more effective communicator,their business can skyrocket.
There's a lot of people thatare great at business but when it
comes to speaking it's likethey're terrified sharing their own
story.
They're terr.
So I loved doing that for anumber of years and leading me to
where I am today and you cansee it on the screen if you're watching.
I'm the field director offield development For Kingdom alliance
and what Kingdom alliance is,it is a community where you can build
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a lifestyle around things thatmatter most.
We have personal professionaldevelopment resources, all biblically
based.
We have an incredible travelpillar that allows people to travel
around the world at wholesale prices.
So in three words, I like tosay our community really helps people,
um, become equipped, if theychoose, to really be able to steward
and to disciple.
And you can go out to thenations if you choose.
And there's also an earningcomponent, as it is a network marketing
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opportunity.
And that's a whole story inand of itself of God saying, we're
going to redeem and restorethe profession.
And it starts with leadership.
And that is a big piece towhat our company is about.
So that is a little bit of my story.
I'm married.
I live in Southern California.
My husband and I have beenmarried for five years.
No kids yet, but we're bothentrepreneurs, so our businesses
are babies at the moment.
And we just pour everything wecan into that.
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Nice.
Thank you for sharing.
That's a.
We have a lot to unpack here because.
And congratulations on makingyou five years with your husband.
That is, that's an amazing feat.
So they say with the fiveyears itch once after five years
and maybe seven, you're done,you're good, you're good to golden
for the rest of your life.
So I love it.
I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Same.
I think we're on the secondhalf of that.
We're on the 50 year package.
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We're 25 in.
Come on.
I know.
So let me dive into the newsanchor stuff first because there's
a lot there.
And especially you were sayingyou were in a toxic environment and
you've got all of these thingsand you were fired because you're
not willing to do something.
It takes a lot of integrity.
So let's start with this.
Let's start integrity firstand move back into the toxicity.
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Where did you develop theconfidence and the integrity to stand
up to that and be like, Idon't care about my job, I care more
about this, that character?
That is a great question.
I'm very grateful that myparents really brought me up in a
Christian household.
I went to private school firstthrough eighth grade, grew up in
the church.
So I was surrounded by greatpeople most of the time.
Can't be perfect.
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And then I also felt at a veryyoung age that I knew God was going
to use me in a way.
I actually remember at 7 yearsold in church, God, basically, I
heard this audible voicesaying, Are you ready?
And it was him saying, are youready to jump into leadership?
And I'm seven.
And I'm like, no, Lord, I amnot ready.
And I ran away.
I ran off.
I'm thinking that you can hidefrom God at seven and you really
can't.
But the beautiful part is hepursued me ever since and at 27,
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stepped into that.
And that's another part of,I'm sure the story will dive into.
Oh, yeah.
I just knew that there wassomething deeper.
And I always was just like,okay, how can I be a person of excellence,
somebody of value?
And I definitely grew up in ahouse where performance mindset was
heavily ingrained.
Call that a good or bad thing,it depends on how you look at it.
But I just always knew that Iwasn't going to give up my integrity
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just to make the story, have afew more viewers watch it.
And it just wasn't worth itbecause that's my brand, that's my
reputation at the end of theday, even though I'm a part of that
station.
And they would do it time andtime again or even put me in harm's
way.
I remember there were timesthat there would be murderers on
the loose and I would be bymyself, no cameraman.
I'm in my mid-20s and all Ihave is a tripod to swing at somebody.
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If somebody comes at me,trying to hurt me, and they're like,
you have to go get the story.
And I remember one time I toldmy news director, I said, absolutely
not.
And at that moment, I know inhis mind he wanted to probably let
me go.
And I was like, you were goingto basically put me out there as
like a sacrificial lamb for a story.
Are you serious?
I said no.
And then eventually, yeah,you're right, maybe not.
Human lives to them just weredispensable and just their integrity
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was dispensable.
And it just wasn't for me.
That blows my mind, thedispensability of human life.
So then that brings into thetoxicity question.
And yes, we will unpack the 20year running spree and as well as
the performance mindset thing,because that brings up a whole other
list of questions.
But before we do that, let'sjump into the toxicity because a
lot of times our environments,if we're not careful, get on the
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inside of us.
How did you protect notbecoming the environment you were
in?
That is a really great question.
I was very, like, I was alwaysvery choosy on who I listened to
and who I let in, especiallytowards the end, like, when I really
started to step up to the Mybosses, and I was like, no, like,
I'm not going to do this.
I even had to ask myself,like, where did that come from?
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Because I didn't, like,necessarily grow up in that environment.
Be quiet, do what you need to do.
But there were always momentswhere I just was like, no, I'm my
own person.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
Call that pride, call that ego.
But at the end of the day,like, this is who I am, and I have
to know what I stand on.
And being a believer,primarily my entire life, it was
just not something it wasworth risking, because what if they
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fired me and then I have to gosomewhere else and start all over?
Else?
All for what?
So I really was choosing onwho I listened to, because the old
adage, listen to the peoplewho have what you want.
And there was very few peoplethroughout, as I've been just growing
in my life that had what Ireally wanted.
And it wasn't just money.
It wasn't positioning sessions.
It was internal.
It was how they thought, whatthey think, and their values.
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And a lot of people reallyjust actually don't care about values,
which is wild to me.
They're willing to be flexibleon that just to make a buck, and
that just.
No, I.
I was never that person.
Yeah, I appreciate that,because I'm like that, too.
I will not never sacrifice forcharacter, because that's.
I gotta live with myself.
Like, y'all live however you sleep.
I have to live with myself.
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So this brings up some reallyinteresting conversation pieces because
you said call it pride or egoversus standing on principle.
So at what point were youfeeling like you were more prideful?
Arrogant versus I'm standingon the principles that were developed
in me.
Like, where is that shift?
I would say probably so.
I'm 35 now.
I would say the pride and egodefinitely covered up insecurities
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and hurt.
And I'm nervous and I'm scared.
So I just had this reallytough exterior.
I would describe.
I describe it to my mom backin the day.
I was like a turtle shell.
Like, I'm super hard on theoutside because it's so soft and
tender on the inside that Iwill protect it at all costs.
And, excuse me, my turtleshell was super thick, but it was
just because I was scared, andI was like, I don't really know what's
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going to happen next.
So my bark was definitelyworse than my bite, for sure.
But it probably wasn't untilmaybe Five or six years ago.
Five or six years ago, to bereally honest, that God really got
a hold of me, like, hey, weneed to work on this.
Like, you are safe, you're ina different environment, you're with
me, you're fully submitted to me.
And I was, I would say I was abeliever my whole life.
I was baptized when I wasseven the first time, however, relief,
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fully submitted not having onetoe in, one toe out, but Lord, like
my life is yours.
Not saying I'm perfect, butit's yours and I'll be, I'm going
to be obedient.
Really.
Five, six years ago is when Ireally stepped into that more.
And so then it shifted toprinciples of not just what I think
is right, but who does God saythat I am and how can I be more Christlike
in my actions?
So went from pride, ego toactually Lord, and I would pray this,
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Lord, show me how you see them.
Then I would start to seetheir insecurities.
They're like, oh, you knowwhat, we need to get her to lie about
this or to do that because myjob is on the line if we don't make
this juicy enough.
Like he would get me to seeother things in other perspectives
that really weren't in the physical.
Kind of more spiritual.
So that knowing.
And that was a huge shift for me.
So then this brings up the great.
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An interesting question.
So you're 35 and you saidabout five or six years ago.
So that's put you at about 29to 30.
And you at the opening of thisinterview, you just said, I stopped
running from God at 27.
So 20 years.
Because you were seven whenyou ran from God, 27 when he finally
caught you and you stopped.
So there's a two year processbetween when you stopped and said
yes and now you're overcomingthe ego, the pride, some of the insecurities
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and things like that.
And obviously it's a journey.
So it's.
We're going still in those process.
So what were those two yearslike as God was starting to break
you of those things and wasstarting to mold you into who you
are today?
Oh, this is good.
I love it.
I love.
Your questions are great.
It's like actually pullingthings out that I don't think anybody's
ever asked before or reallylooked into before.
So yeah, at seven I said,lord, I don't know what when you
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say go like dive into leadership.
I didn't know what that meant.
However, he kept putting me inleadership positions, student council,
leading sports teams, whateverEverybody's, you're the leader, you're
it.
So he was preparing me alongthe way.
But when I really stepped intoit is when I got out of the news
industry, jumped into entrepreneurship.
Now I'm doing things on my ownand I'm trying to set up this life
for myself.
And I don't have anybody in myfamily that has ever done that.
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So a lot of that was thebreaking and probably even went beyond
the.
From 27 to 29 into my 30s, thebreaking of you, like, think you're
in control, but you're really not.
In entrepreneurship, you canride the roller coaster and get wildly
nauseous because you're ridingit, or you can try to maintain, stabilize
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your emotions and yourfeelings and really trust discernment.
And that's one of the biggestlessons I learned.
So many people, includingmyself, I was led by emotions and
feelings rather thandiscernment because on the back of
my mind I'm like, yeah, God,okay, yeah, you know what you're
doing, but I can do it better.
That's what he was breaking me.
Obviously you can't.
And entrepreneurship willbreak you in the best ways because
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it just does it.
It just doesn't like that.
But depending on how willingyou are to let God show, reveal,
and then heal those areas thatreally need to.
Be healed, yeah,entrepreneurship does definitely
reveal and break things thatyou never knew you need broken.
So when God called me intothat, I was like, wow, okay, Lord.
So this brings up aninteresting thing because as I oftentimes
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joke and I say I'm arecovering perfectionist and because
I dealt with a lot of insecurities.
You talked about the turtleshell and the harder the shell, the
deeper the hide.
And.
But it also links to theperformance mentality you mentioned
earlier.
So as somebody who grew up, Iwas a gifted ADHD kid, so I grew
up performance good.
Anything else bad.
So there was that.
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How did you make the shift from.
I judge my internal well beingor who I am based on all the things
I'm producing to it's okay tobe who I am and I'm okay with that.
Like, where was the shifthappening for you for that?
Gosh.
I would say, truthfully, inbuilding this company that we now
have Kingdom alliance, westarted it back in June of 2020.
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That's when I really had to.
Because I've been anentrepreneur at that point since,
so 2017 to 2020, so three years.
There was a lot of breakingand molding into that.
But starting up this company,it was something that I've never
seen done before helping,first of all, women, Christian women,
money, mindset, growth,freedom, all these things.
And you're battling a lot ofreligious beliefs.
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You're battling a lot of things.
And so there would be thingsthat wouldn't move growth that wouldn't
happen necessarily, like inthe business that in other businesses
would take off if I did this,that and the other thing.
But God, I'm doing a new thing.
So I would say with even likethe last couple years, I would say
maybe even within the last twoto three years, he's really been
able to highlight, hey, thisis still a problem and you need to
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just love yourself wholly andit's not attached to the outcome.
Even though at the time I likea couple years ago, I would have
people that I love dearlywould speak, try to speak over and
into me, and I would have toblock it of like, I'm not accepting
that as truth.
Because they're like, whydon't you give up on this thing?
Once you go do something else?
Why don't you?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, I'm not askingthis of you.
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And I have to just have to shut.
I have to shut that off.
And so recovered peoplepleaser, right?
I love you and I care aboutyou and what you say actually matters
to me.
But you're trying to get me towalk away from what God's having
me press into to start a newmovement that he's wanting to do
something big with.
So within the last coupleyears, I've really had to look deep
and just really know myidentity, my value, and who he says
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I am, nobody else.
And then truthfully, sometimeswe still battle from time to.
I'm not gonna say we.
I still battle from time to time.
Of Here are the metrics that Iput out that didn't produce the way
that I thought it would.
But God is not linear.
It's not logical.
It's.
He is the master of multiplication.
And so I've really, within thelast year, I would say, have come
to a piece of.
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I have done all I can do.
It's up to Him.
And I hear in my spirit allthe time because I'm just very clear
of it's coming, it's coming different.
Whatever the it's coming is.
There's a lot of differentthings that are attached to that.
But that piece right there isso key because so many people miss
that part.
And that really is the realgift, knowing you've done all you
can do.
And he's going to fill in therest and just keep being obedient
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to the next step, even if itdoesn't make sense for whatever has
happened in the past and howthings used to add up.
So then now this brings up aninteresting just thought for me.
So you're doing all of this.
So where.
How painful did it get in thebreaking process of you trying to
get a hold of your realidentity versus the shell identity
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that you had to hide and justmake everything pretty, make everything
produce.
Now you're getting into thisplace of, I'm a child of God.
I've accepted that, I'mdeveloping that and I'm.
I'm owning that.
How painful did it get for youin the transition to that?
And how did you not say, I quit?
Definitely did.
I said I quit many times.
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However, I did not.
Words came out, but theactions didn't follow.
Right?
So it just was like, I justcan't do this anymore.
And honestly, there have beenso many moments within the last two
years of.
And I know this is a lot ofpeople too.
I just can't do this anymore.
This is so hard.
I would say, when was it?
Maybe like 2020 to 2021.
I started discovering thesecret place, meaning my alone time
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with God.
I found my spot.
I can't do it in my housebecause there's so many different
distractions.
So I found it in my car.
And anybody who's beenfollowing for a number of years,
like, there she is, like,doing her quiet time in her car again.
And I developed this spotwhere I would get up.
Now I get up during the week.
I know this is going to soundcrazy at 2am and between 2 and 3:45,
I have my quiet time in thecar before I go to the gym.
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My quiet time for the firsttwo years of that, maybe even three,
was just me breaking,complaining, lord, I need wine.
And then maybe dive intoscripture a little bit.
To be honest, most of the timewhen I look back on it, I was like,
wow, how annoying was that?
And that's not how he responds.
But that was my response tomyself until I got to this point
where, like, God is such agentleman, he is such a loving father.
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He's.
I am here.
And really developing thatspace was so important to get away
from the noise.
And for me, early in themorning is my time because people
are literally still sleepingand there's not a whole lot of movement
and it's just me and him andit's quiet and it's peaceful and
it's worth the sacrifice Of alittle lack of sleep or going to
bed early.
But it was painful.
There was a lot of breakingmoments and a lot of lord, why?
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Like, you've given me thesebig words and these promises, and
don't get me wrong, not everymorning was like a whine and complain.
Like, he would give medownloads and I have journals and
journals of different wordsand things.
But it was painful because hewould give you this big word and
this big vision.
But then it's between that andthen the process that it takes to
get there, that obviously isthe painful part.
And just releasing.
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Okay, Lord, your timing isalways greater, and we can say that
over and over, but when weactually start to believe it.
For me, it took me a very longtime because I'm like, what do you
mean?
Normally six months max, 12months max.
And now it's been years and years.
However, it's developing thatdeeper faith and trust of knowing
master's multiplication iscoming and his word will never return
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void.
I love how you recognize,like, the difference between the
entrepreneurial.
Yeah, we need it done in three months.
So, Lord, if you can get onthat for me, that would be beautiful.
Versus, all right.
Your timetable, not mine.
I love the shift in that.
Which now brings up anotherquestion, because I know there are
some of my listeners thatreally generally struggle with this.
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How did you gain confidencethat when you're like, when God speaks,
I know it's him?
Because there's such astruggle in that depth of, was it
God?
Was it not God?
And you know, as a Christian,we all deal with that on some level.
Yes.
But I do know there'sparticularly one or two of my audiences
that have reached out to mebefore and said, hey, how do you
this.
And the one of those has been,how are you so confident in hearing
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God?
So I'd love to hear yourthoughts on that, since this is what
I'm hearing.
Is the confidence in the Lordin that?
Yes.
And I can't say it's going tobe a perfect score that every time
I think of here for him, thatit is him.
But this is what I was.
This is the revelation he gaveto me.
Align the voice that you justheard, align that with the fruits
of the spirit.
And that is going to weed outpretty quickly.
For the most part.
It's not always a perfect score.
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But whether it's your voice,the enemy's voice, or his voice and
what he's saying to you, andespecially when I am in my quiet
place, in my secret place, Ihave my own setting where I'm in
a no distraction zone.
Phone is away.
I have soaking music on.
I sound weird, like, soakingworship music where it's light instrumentals.
Because I've trained my brainof when that's on.
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Like we.
This is the time that we're in.
Because otherwise my brainwill squirrel off to all these other
areas.
So I aligned it with thefruits of the spirit.
And then I pray, lord, give me discernment.
Is this you?
And then it's just like thisknowing and this feeling just like
knowing like he's going to bethere every time you pray.
He listens.
And the only reason we woulddoubt that is because that's the
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enemy's voice.
Doubt that is not from theLord of is he really going to come
through?
Is this really going to happen?
That's not a fruit of the spirit.
So most of the time, when youalign it with the fruits of the spirit,
you will know.
And then it just takestrusting yourself.
And you have to know this.
God trusts you.
He trusts that you're going tomake the right decision.
So lean into that.
Doesn't mean we're going toalways make the right decision.
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But so many people getparalyzed of let's just make no decision
and then just stay stuckbecause it's safer than making the
wrong one.
Where your girls made plentyof wrong decisions, but we learned
from them.
Yeah.
A lot of times we learn morefrom the wrong decision than we ever
do from the right ones.
Yeah, I'm right with you on that.
So then here's what in thisline of thinking, you're an empowered
woman.
Right.
And I like empowered more thanI like power.
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We all talk about power, but Ithink there's so much authority behind
empowered.
And you are a very beautiful,like, example of what an empowered
woman looks like.
Entrepreneur.
Here's from God doing the things.
So then how do you stand upagainst the voices, against the religious,
the people that may try tocome against you and say you're not
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good enough?
All of these things, like, howdo you do this with confidence and
don't want to run back to the shell.
I love this question.
The first thing that comes tomind is a mentor of mine, my business
partner, Michelle Schaefer.
Talk about somebody who juststands up against the religious.
There's so many people thatwill spew their religiosity and their
doubt and their fear all over you.
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And she has been such a pillarin my life to just be like, no, enough
is enough.
I'm not like, we're not goingto stand for that that is not truth.
And so I get to see somebodyon a daily basis doing that.
And that's important.
If you don't have somebodythat's showing you the way and blazing
a trail, which I've always needed.
I've always prayed for female mentors.
And there was a lot of no'sand in walks Michelle.
We just become business partners.
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And she's an incredible mentorof mine in our company, Kingdom Alliance.
And so watching somebody dothat day in, day out, it builds something
in you of, you know what?
Most people won' do thatbecause of the confrontation and
the rub.
But why are we so comfortableof just letting people talk all this
nonsense all over us?
So it got me to look at myselfeven before I met Michelle, before
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I met Michelle, of like, whatdo I stand for?
What do I stand for?
In the pandemic taught me alot of that, because in 2020, we
had no idea what was going on.
We didn't know what was goingto be shut down.
The Internet, the world, like,we had no idea what was going on.
So I said, lord, where do we go?
What do we do?
I came across this shirt thatI ended up purchasing and it says,
think why it's still legal.
And it's funny.
And I wore that thing until Icouldn't wear it anymore and had
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holes in it.
However, it got me to be like,what do you actually think?
What do you actually believe?
What?
Like, you have to do the digging.
And for so long I was justlike, that sounds good.
That sounds good.
I'm going to put this in my car.
Oh, yeah, that sounds good.
Rather than, no, but do youreally believe that?
Is that something you canstand on?
Do a little research, do alittle digging?
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My husband's great at this.
If he wants to know something,he does a lot of digging and way
more than I would do.
But I respect the fact that hereally wants to know that he knows.
So then you can really standup against it.
Because a lot of believers, alot of people call themselves Christians,
will go to church.
The pastoral spoon feed.
Check that in your own time.
Like, use your discernment tobe like, do I believe in that or
not?
And you're not going tobelieve everything.
But for the longest timegrowing up in church, I remember
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being a part of the church.
I was growing up, oh, my gosh,if I was a part of that now, I would
scream if I was at service,being like, this is so dry and not
real.
Right.
And it allows people to justshrink and not feel like they actually
have a voice when there is somuch power that is in us and God
gets to use us, and when youunderstand that we are his highest
form of creation and we get tobe used, that doesn't have to be
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a scary thing because he'salways with us.
It really does something to you.
And maybe it's just me, maybeI'm the only one, but at the end
of the day, I know that Godbuilt me for something so much bigger
than just to collect a check,Be a wife, be a mom.
Those are all amazing things.
Be a great friend, daughter,all the above.
There.
It's so much bigger than that.
We all have a voice, we allhave a story, and our story matters.
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And so, yeah, it fires me upevery day because I know my calling
is so much bigger than just me.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love what you said there too.
It's always double check.
I'm like that.
Me and my wife have the same dynamic.
I get hyper focused and I wantto learn, like, everything.
Like, I'm digging and she's,oh, this is cool.
And so I'm trying to teach herhow to dig.
So it's been an interesting dynamic.
She's loving it.
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One thing I, the Bible saysactually in Acts, it says the Bereans
went back and double checkedeverything Paul said and they were
counted as a noble.
Which shows us that even Paul,he's the reason why we're all Christians
right now.
There were people doublechecking him and they were seen as
like, these amazing people and noble.
Like, we should do the same.
And so I love how you broughtthat out.
I'm.
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That's my soapbox area that Iusually get on sometimes on Facebook,
like, yo, let's not just take value.
I love that.
Come on.
So let's tie this back aroundbecause you've mentioned it through
the several ports of thispoints at this interview.
Give people a voice.
So where did that develop?
Was it something in your lifewhere you.
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Your voice was taken and nowyou're trying to not only develop
the voice that you believe wastaken and help others do the same?
Or was it something like, Ihad a voice and God is just helping
me amplify it to give it tosomeone else?
Explain that for me.
I would say growing up, a lotof people would say, you're too much,
you talk too loud, sit downand be quiet.
However, I just didn't.
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I just kept going.
So I was like, okay.
So I always push back a little bit.
And then funny enough, I getinto the news industry where I want
to help other people have a voice.
I was trained to obviously beable to speak.
Right, Right.
And understanding how so manypeople are scared to have a voice
because the imposter syndromeor whatever you want to call it,
like, why me?
And I've really helped people reframe.
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Why not you?
And if God gets glory throughour testimony, yet so many people
are terrified to speak, how ishe going to get the glory that he
truly deserves?
And it's never going to be enough.
But at least it's something.
It's what we can bring.
All we have is what we can bring.
And so many people are justterrified because they've had so
many family members orexperiences or whatever.
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If you're too much, be quiet.
You're shy.
So they grew up shy.
Now they're a shy adult.
And they've taken that on asan identity.
Because I could have gone theother direction and been like, oh,
this I am too much.
Maybe I shouldn't.
Maybe I should.
But I kept digging into thatbeing like, why is this so flagrant?
Why is this so loud comingback at me?
And when something is so.
This is always popping up, Itend to look at that more of maybe
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this is somewhere I need to gobecause the enemy's trying to block
me from breaking throughsomething here.
I know that the news to now,the news brought me into a space
where I can learn how to dothat, help people develop that voice.
And it's really.
It's what they've always had.
But just how can you put ittogether where you can help unlock
your story and it can unlockother things and other people?
And inside our community, wehave a speaker academy that really
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helps people dig down deep andjust get the stories that are in
there and get it out.
Because you didn't go througheverything that you've gone through
in your life for that to juststay stuck inside of you.
Like, people love stories.
They want to be inspired.
It's some of the best movies.
The best things that peoplelove to see is the Underdog, the
Overcomer, and there's so manymore overcomers out there.
But yet we sit down, we'relike, oh, not me.
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It doesn't really matter.
And I rebuke that lie, and itdrives me insane.
And I usually get a lot ofrighteous anger around it because
I'm just like, no more.
Come on.
Yeah, I love that.
Hey, listen, I'll take.
Everybody can have theirrighteous indignation or their righteous
anger and all that stuff.
But listen, if you're speakingtruth, speak truth.
Just end the story.
It's because in the end of theday, I'd rather offend your mind
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and save your heart than tryto save your heart and offend those.
Instead of offend your.
I just messed that wholelittle thing up.
That's funny.
So you never have those fourthoughts that just came in at once
and you're like, wow, thatjust happened.
And we caught it on air.
So here even we all get it right.
I love it.
So I had a mentor once, toldme, he said, offend the mind to reveal
the heart.
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Right.
That.
That he had said that one time.
And I was like, you know what?
I'd rather offend your mindinstead of saving your heart as opposed
to offending your heart tosave your mind.
Because we can.
There's this dynamic in there,is we're always going to have a troll.
We're always going to havesomebody who's angry at us.
We're always going to have those.
Even Jesus.
Those.
Yep.
And so I love that, like, juststand up the voice and you hear it
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here on the thing to the audience.
Like, just stand up and useyour voice.
And I'm gonna highly recommendthat you get connect with Molly and
what she's doing, how she'sdoing it, because this is a very
empowered woman who then, ifyou feel like a very good connection,
a very strong calling, theHoly Spirit's kind of knitting you
guys together.
Make sure you reach out tothat, to her.
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And we will put all thosethings in the show notes in a minute.
But before we do, let's talkabout the wisdom bomb.
I for my listeners, you'vebeen here with the show for a while,
or maybe this is your first time.
We do what's called hashtagwisdom bomb.
If you go on my Facebook atLead with Jim, you see it.
I've been doing it since 2019.
It says hashtag wisdom bomb.
It's a portable truth.
And the portable truths is,hey, this is something you take in
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your life and do it today.
With that being said, Molly,what is a wisdom bomb that you would
give to the audience?
I love.
This is one of my favorite quotes.
When I heard it, it stuck withme for life.
I'm going to say it the waythat it's it was said, and then I'm
going to phrase it so we cantake it on for our own self.
I fight for people'spossibilities while they fight for
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their limitations.
You need to fight for your ownpossibilities in the midst of your
body, even trying to fight forits limitation.
Our body's always meant tokeep us safe.
But in a comfort zone, nothing grows.
And so many people are just.
Especially over the lastcouple of years we've had.
I get it.
Things were not easy.
They were hard.
But it's time to press through.
It's time to have this timenext year, your life look like something
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totally different.
And if we just keep lettingthe same things hold us back of what
people think, letting peoplespeak in your life that shouldn't
be.
It's time to cut that off,respectfully being like, I love you
and no more.
Here is my boundary.
In 2025, we need to set somevery clear boundaries, not only for
ourselves, but but just forother people that are around us.
Because the dreams and visionsthat God has given in our put in
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our hearts and has given to uslike it deserves at least that.
So I always speak like I fightfor people's possibilities while
they fight for their limitations.
And I take that on as aleader, as a mantle that God's given
me.
And I know how weighty thatcall is.
At the same time, when I meetpeople with that same energy, they're
like, wow.
And sometimes you might be thefirst that has ever done it for somebody
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else or even just for yourselfand it feels good because you're
no going in the right direction.
Because we have to be fightingfor something.
We have to be fighting for something.
So many people literally fightfor nothing and they just sit on
the sidelines.
So it's just time to get inthe game.
I love that.
So how can we find you?
I would say, gosh, I'm allover social media.
Instagram, Molly Underscore,Trotter, Facebook, Molly Trotter,
Gomez.
Those are probably the easiest.
I'm always on those.
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I know we have a lot of linksbelow, so you can click those.
I think there's probablyTikTok, LinkedIn, our website, all
the above.
But I would love to hear whatwas something that you got from the
show.
And Jim, I just want to saythank you so much for hosting this
show.
You are an incredible question asker.
You probably asked mequestions that I have never been
asked before and I just wantto honor you for that because that
really shows just theattentiveness that you have and really
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just being able to draw thatvalue for your audience.
I just want to say thank youfor just giving me a place to share
my story and I hope it blessedsomebody today.
Definitely has blessed me andit's an honor to have you on the
show.
And so thank you for sayingyes and coming off and having this
conversation.
So you guys who are theaudience, we will make sure all of
that is in the show notes,click it, do the thing, go connect,
message, ask about thecommunity because it sounds like
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it's a beautiful community.
Especially I think you saidyou're focusing on women.
Do you do other than women oris this women?
Yeah, so we primarily startedthat way but we rebranded.
So Kingdom alliance is open toanyone that really just wants that,
you know, biblically basedfaith forward community that provides
opportunity for growth andjust building a life around things
that matter most.
Awesome.
So thank you for the clarity.
So that way to you, theaudience, man or woman, whatever
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it is, connect and see whatfigure it out.
You know, learn to make moneywhile do ministry, entrepreneurship
and travel.
Some of my heartstrings arealready pulled.
So with that being said, thankyou for listening to the show.
Make sure you do the thing,whatever platform you're on, whether
YouTube or Apple or Iradio,make sure you hit the follow, hit
some reviews and share it witha friend.
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and we're telling theinspiring stories behind some of
the most successful entrepreneurs.
And with that all being said,we will see you on a soon episode
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