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August 1, 2025 67 mins

The sisters are ecstatic to build with writer, activist and historian Rebecca Solnit. Her latest book is No Straight Road Takes You There: Essays on Uneven Terrain.

They talk about how solidarity is always across difference and about the things we have in common mattering more then the things we don't, how liberation is contagious, prioritizing where to pour our energy, a politics of inseparability vs. the politics of division, our default response of turning towards each other in a crisis, how it turns out that even when your world has fallen apart you can light up with joy because you found the meaning and connection that's been missing in everyday life, a world with an abundance of time and security rather than abundance as neoliberal rhetoric, how there's no shortage of anything, just distribution problems, hunkering down for the likely reality of climate collapse and how we can't save everything but that doesn't mean we can't save anything.

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