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September 7, 2025 89 mins

Meet Elle Giacomini, a chemist turned musician and a survivor of the Twin Flames Universe cult. In our chat we discuss Elle's journey into Twin Flame, and the manipulative practices and psychological teachings of its leaders, including the controversial mirror exercise. We explore the dynamics of twin flames, the MLM-like structure of the cult, and the troubling gender expectations imposed on members. Elle also shares her journey of writing a book, her current life and aspirations, and the emphasis on the importance of authenticity and self-love in relationships.

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Escaping Twin Flames (Netflix)

Twin Flames Universe: An inside look at the alleged American cult (W5 Canada)

FYI Jeff is Creepy and Gross ("allegedly")

Twin Flames Universe Wiki

Dr. Steven Hassan's Influence Continuum

Police descend on Twin Flames Universe headquarters months after W5 exposé (UPDATE!)

Michigan AG TFU Website

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