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June 18, 2025 68 mins

In a world constantly demanding our attention and energy, have you ever felt trapped between the crucial need to care for yourself and the undeniable urge to care for those around you? 

Well, for this conversation, Debbie gets into that very dilemma with Dr. Jordan Quaglia, as he challenges us to move beyond the 'either/or' of self-care and explore his revolutionary 'We Care' approach. 

Jordan, who is the author of Self-Care to We Care: The New Science of Mindful Boundaries and Caring From an Undivided Heart, gives his take on the research on balancing self-care with caring for others and emphasizes the importance of holding both self-care and compassion for others simultaneously and offers practical strategies for setting healthy boundaries and integrating self-care into daily life. Come join Debbie and Jordan to redefine what it means to care!


Listen and Learn: 

  • Why balancing care for others and self-care isn’t an either-or and the hidden choices in between
  • When self-care crosses into avoidance or indulgence, it may signal disconnection rather than renewal
  • Finding balance when caring for others overrides your own needs
  • In moments of tragedy, do you become the superhero or collapse from the hurt?
  • The We Care framework to transform self-care and caring for others into one balanced practice in everyday life
  • Transform overwhelming empathy into sustainable compassion that fuels your action and protects your well-being
  • How care-based boundaries protect your energy while deepening connection, not guilt
  • Balancing self-care and caring for the world work together to fuel your resilience and action


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About Jordan Quaglia

Jordan Quaglia, PhD, has spent over a decade researching and teaching on topics such as mindfulness, compassion, and boundaries. He is an associate professor of psychology at Naropa University, where he directs the Cognitive and Affective Science Laboratory and is research director for its Center for the Advancement of Contemplative Education. A recognized expert in the science of compassion, he has been designated as a research fellow by the Mind & Life Institute, a Contemplative Social Justice Scholar for Contemplative Mind in Society, and a panelist for multiple United Nations Day of Vesak conferences. In addition to his research, Jordan co-developed and regularly teaches an eight-week compassion training curriculum for hundreds of individuals. He lives with his wife in Boulder, Colorado.

Book: From Self-Care to We-Care: The New Science of Mindful Boundaries and Caring from an Undivided Heart


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