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March 20, 2024 74 mins

I love each and every guest we’ve had on this show, but I’m just gonna say it: for me at least, this episode is probably the most important and relevant one we’ve done yet. 

Today we have Eve Rodsky, the Harvard-trained author of Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live).

I personally credit Eve’s ideas – and the playing cards that help you implement them – with making the “invisible work” of running my own household visible, and equitably dividing that work with my husband.

As you’ll hear today, Eve embarked on this journey to find answers to her own problem. After becoming a mom of two, she watched as she became the default doer of the things, all while feeling sidelined in her career and “abandoned” by her husband (whom she still loved).

In other words, her “Sh*t I Do” list grew longer and longer without any real discussion of who should actually do what.

Fair Play is the antidote to that problem, and this episode breaks down the method in detail. You’ll come away equipped to start a conversation with your partner; identify and fairly divide responsibilities; create space for yourself; and ultimately live a happier, healthier life.

Eve and I also get into:

* Why household labor tends to be so unequal

* Men over-reporting and women under-reporting their contributions

* How to raise this topic with your partner

* What Fair Play looks like in action in my own marriage

* “He’s the income earner. So shouldn’t I handle everything in the home?”

* Understanding the different types of labor (daily grind vs. on your own time)

* Hard-to-define responsibilities like spirituality and “magic” (tooth fairy, etc.)

* Why it’s so important to own a task completely

* Eve’s key to staying happy even as you shoulder more responsibility in life

Links: 

* Fair Play book

* Fair Play cards

* Fair Play documentary

* Eve’s second book, Find Your Unicorn Space

* Eve’s podcast with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar

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