In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares a candid reflection about a recent encounter where he was right on the facts and the law—but completely wrong in how he presented them. Yet if we're honest with ourselves about when we make mistakes, it's a good opportunity to learn, reminding us that how we communicate is just as important as what we communicate.
What You’ll Learn:
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Why being right on the law isn’t enough in a conversation
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How righteous anger can derail productive dialogue
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Why due process matters for everyone—especially those who aren't guilty of crimes
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Tools for engaging in hard conversations with empathy and curiosity
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How the Constitution and Judeo-Christian values intersect in public discourse
Episode Highlights:
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[00:02:00] Corey introduces the story and the key lesson he learned
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[00:05:00] Breakdown of the Alien Enemies Act and a real legal case
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[00:06:45] A stranger challenges Corey at a restaurant
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[00:07:30] Corey "goes Jersey" and loses his cool
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[00:13:00] What due process really protects and why it matters
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[00:16:00] How Isaac Saul, David Brooks, and Mónica Guzmán inspired a better way to respond
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[00:18:00] Reading the First and Fifth Amendments to ground the conversation
Featured Quotes:
- "I was completely right on the facts, but I was completely wrong on the delivery." — Corey Nathan
- "Due process is there for the innocent just as much as the guilty—even more so for the innocent." — Corey Nathan
- "Ask at least three questions before making your point." — inspired by Isaac Saul
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