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September 12, 2025 43 mins

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We are so excited to announce our new Supercast channel, The Dream Plus! For only $5 a month you can now get every episode of The Dream (including our back entire back catalog) ad-free, along with bonus content and a brand new AMA style chat board, where you can ask Jane and Dann questions, suggest ideas and bring The Dream Plus community together! Click the link below to join The Dream Plus Supercast channel for only $5 a month:


https://thedream.supercast.com



This week marks the season 2 launch of the critically acclaimed podcast Outlawed. To celebrate, we are re-running episode 7 from Outlawed season one, Tension of Opposites:


One of the most contentious topics of the last election cycle was abortion later in pregnancy (often mislabeled as “late term abortion”). Anti-abortion activists and politicians promote heinous misinformation about this care. This includes false claims that abortion is being performed after birth, an inaccurate and manipulative description of palliative care for babies born with grave physical and/or genetic abnormalities. This episode confronts both of these topics head on as we talk with OB-Gyn expert Dr. Jenni Villavicencio. She walks us through why care later in pregnancy is necessary and how patients are making thoughtful decisions for themselves and their families. Jenni also talks about her transformation for anti-abortion protestor to abortion care provider. We also debunk myths about abortion after birth and talk about the realities of palliative care for infants with lethal birth defects. 


Enjoy the show and don't forget to subscribe to season 2 here:


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/outlawed/id1780888188



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