189. What Would The Outgoing Boss Of The IFS Do If He Was Chancellor?

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July 13, 2025 • 36 mins

Why is the UK lagging behind other countries when it comes to our debt and budget deficit? Did austerity help or hurt — and was there a better way? And with major events like Brexit and Covid, was our economic slump unavoidable? Steph and Robert chat with the outgoing boss of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, Paul Johnson, for a deep dive into the UK’s public finances. And to find out what he thinks a fair and effective tax system looks like. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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